Why it's so underrated? Battles are engaging (HxH style).

Why it's so underrated?
Battles are engaging (HxH style).
Story has a few unexpected twists (not Gundam caliber but still).

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Protag was too autistic, even for /m/ standards, and everyone was a little TOO incompetent compared to him. Story also shit the bed hard in its latter portion. First season was solidly entertaining though, and the CG wasn't half bad, especially for the time.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's not even that he was too autistic. He wasnt even a character.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mediocre CG, lackluster worldbuilding, characters were largely flat and an uninspired plot. The biggest unexpected twist was the mc being shot in the head and then being brought back in an expected twist. Having the story carried by a single character doesn't really lend itself to a interplanetary Second Sino-Japanese War.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >everyone was a little TOO incompetent compared to him
    Can't disagree here. It was weird that the only one able to resist martians was your average Japanese school boy.
    >mc being shot in the head and then being brought back
    That was Code Geass homage/reference.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I was upset that they didn't go through with completely making the War balanced by having Lemrina and Asseylum on opposing sides. This would've given them the option to expand the franchise. Alas, it was not meant to be.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >That was Code Geass homage/reference.
      Bullet was deflected by the mask in Code Geass.

      I was upset that they didn't go through with completely making the War balanced by having Lemrina and Asseylum on opposing sides. This would've given them the option to expand the franchise. Alas, it was not meant to be.

      >I was upset that they didn't go through with completely making the War balanced by having Lemrina and Asseylum on opposing sides.
      How would it have been balanced? Show wasn't bold enough to depose the peace princess for putting the other side first.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I was talking Aldnoah tech.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          She did allow them to use all the tech that was available to them. Post-war she essentially gave them access to the tech anyways.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Bullet was deflected by the mask in Code Geass.
        I meant the s1 ending itself. Other geass-inspired things are: magical eye and protag rival.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          those are generic

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Generic or not, but rivalry doesn't work in s1: Slaine/Inaho have ±same goals and they seek them with the same methods, so there is no reason for a conflict between the two, Suzaku/Lelouch, on the other hand, have ±same goals, but their methods are so different that they pin them against each other. Writer was fairly competent, thus if there is a thing which doesn't quite connects with everything else, I assume it was taken from other place. Code Geass is popular and has it there, hence my conclusion.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Inaho doesn't really have "goals". His reason for being in the story is no different from your generic isekai protagonist.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                To survive? Kid was basically acting on instinct.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                His characterization and portrayal are so poorly made that, even if that were the writers' intent, it doesn't work.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Worked for Sousuke. Just add le funny Western movie references.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Sosuke (and Setsuna, for that matter) was a trained operator and former child soldier. That guy, on the other hand, is supposed to be an average Japanese highschooler.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Didn't they say they had basic training reinstated in schools? Inaho and co. are essentially reserve troops.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Why it's so underrated?
              Despite the first season having a tighter plot and faster pacing than Code Geass, AZ had nowhere near the same level of production values as CG. The point of an audio-visual medium like anime is the audio-visuals, and CG was straight up more appealing to look at. When the start of AZ S2 retconned the consequences of S1's ending, that killed the tension and what people were left with was an okay story (if you only want story, read a book) and okay audio-visuals. AZ debuted in the streaming era so people had instant access to a century's worth of fantastic movies and shows they could be watching, their quality filtered by time. So a lot of people dropped except for those who really liked the Vers designs or were invested in the love triangle.

              >rivalry doesn't work in s1: Slaine/Inaho have ±same goals and they seek them with the same methods, so there is no reason for a conflict between the two
              No, they did not have the same goals. Inaho is a Terran whose home is being destroyed and conquered by foreign invaders. He wants to repel the invaders. While he is friendly to the princess, it is in his interest to use her to advocate for his people's position. Slaine seems less loyal to Vers as a state/people but is already a Vers citizen and his foot on the ladder of the nobility and has privilieged access to Vers' powerful vehicles. If Slaine simply defected to earth and earth somehow won, he would have a lifetime of looking forward to being a wageslave with no family to rely upon. It is in Slaine's interest to continue climbing the ladder in Vers, and the war against the Earth is a golden opportunity to do so. He could kill the conspirators who were out to kill Asselyum while still advancing within Vers and attaining prestige on the battlefield.

              >Writer was fairly competent
              Gen Urobuchi only wrote the first three episodes.

              1/2

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                2/2

                >HxH style
                This is something you say when you've only seen like 5 anime and HxH is one of them.

                The battles in A/Z were terrible because although the gimmic of grunt machines going up against super machines sounds cool in execution it was just Inaho being OP because he had a high school understanding of physics. Everybody else was completely useless. Maybe if they had worked together to figure those battles out the show would've been more engaging.

                >The battles in A/Z were terrible
                The season 1 battles were suspenseful. You got to see this big, seemingly unstoppable mech destroy the Terrans one by one and they're closing in on the cute little girl or weak battleship, and then you get the clutch answer. All S1 battles felt like they were won by the skin of their teeth. It is S2 in which the battles fought by the Terrans feels rote, without danger and boring.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >All S1 battles felt like they were won by the skin of their teeth
                Only if you are like nine years old. Inaho's plans only work because everyone else (including trained military personnel) have to be fricking stupid.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                i wonder if the format would have been better as a cluster of stories instead of a mega autist/cuck/thot love triangle that ended up somehow as bad as macross delta's

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >If Slaine simply defected to earth and earth somehow won, he would have a lifetime of looking forward to being a wageslave with no family to rely upon.
                Not necessarily. There were no such implications in the show. Using your logic Slaine could've became Earth hero and live like one simply because he is able to activate aldnoah.

                >his foot on the ladder of the nobility
                He is literally a non-human cattle according to this system.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Gen Urobuchi only wrote the first three episodes.
                Then it makes my argument invalid. But shouldn't there be a person who gives like the general plan? How they managed to avoid critical plotholes?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >But shouldn't there be a person who gives like the general plan?
                The director. General idea for the plot was Butcher though.

                >How they managed to avoid critical plotholes?
                They didn't? Bet it would be mix of different staff members and in this case the guy who thought up the general idea wasn't present. Having difficulties with sticking to a general plan wasn't unique to this show.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >How would it have been balanced? Show wasn't bold enough to depose the peace princess for putting the other side first.
        The Marians only listen to Asshime because she can give or take away Aldnoah authority. Lemrina coming out from the dark could make it so that the Martians would no longer have reason to listen to Asshime, since the only thing she had on them and the source of her authority would be lost. It would be interesting to see what they chose to do when they no longer needed to listen to her.

        Also if it caused them to follow Slaine itself it would be more interesting as it would mean that they in reality don't actually give a shit about Slaine being an Earthling.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >The Marians only listen to Asshime because she can give or take away Aldnoah authority. Lemrina coming out from the dark could make it so that the Martians would no longer have reason to listen to Asshime
          That's for sure. The most obvious option turned out to be unrealized and the ending, instead of a prologue to a larger-scale confrontation between the planets and the split of factions (in general, a defector from earthlings to Martians would have been useful, otherwise the authors portrayed the “worship” of the Versians for earthly little things in a painfully one-sided way), the ending turned into some kind of bad joke or parody.

          >Also if it caused them to follow Slaine itself it would be more interesting as it would mean that they in reality don't actually give a shit about Slaine being an Earthling.
          I agree, remember at least the signs of respect from the aristocrats after Slaine’s successful attack on the Earth space base and the protection of the Vers ships before that.

          In addition, the Trio of Martian Knights from the highest aristocracy of the Empire accepted his leadership and, under the command of Count Troyard, showed impressive efficiency.

          That's why I say it would be better for the writers to focus on the story of Slaine and his rise, as well as the relationship between the Earthman and Lemrina, the princess of Mars.

          P.S. Can anyone recommend some good fanfics for AZ, specifically dedicated to Slaine and Lemrina, as a version of the story about Vers?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Most of the fics with a halfway decent ending have Slaine a woman.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >homaging Geass references

      No wonder this show sucks

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >HxH style
    Fricking yuck.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >HxH style
    This is something you say when you've only seen like 5 anime and HxH is one of them.

    The battles in A/Z were terrible because although the gimmic of grunt machines going up against super machines sounds cool in execution it was just Inaho being OP because he had a high school understanding of physics. Everybody else was completely useless. Maybe if they had worked together to figure those battles out the show would've been more engaging.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Really, I wouldn't've minded the basic physics solution if it didn't have that second thing. Winning because everyone else is too dumb to know how to operate velcro is unsatisfying regardless of how flashy they make it.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Aldnoah was just really disappoiting all around, specially since the staff were hyping it up in hopes fo being a big franchise that could rival Gundam or something.
    Cool mech designs though.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because the story of the anti-hero Slaine is many times more interesting than that of the autistic Inaho. However, the authors persistently push this “genius” of the Earth into the main characters, turning the story itself and the interaction of the characters into a farce.

    This is some kind of flaw in such mecha shows with the confrontation between earthlings and space people - no matter how lame and incompetent the so-called “Earth Federation” is, it will still win simply because.

    It would not hurt the authors to change the paradigm in order to create at least some interesting mecha in the future.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no matter how lame and incompetent the so-called “Earth Federation” is, it will still win simply because
      Where's the anime where Earthians aren't inherently incompetent and there isn't some bullshit space magic that makes living in the cold, dark vacuum of space nearly identical to living on the cradle of Humanity.

      Gundam would have entirely different undertones if space colonies couldn't be built by the dozens and didn't have enough natural life support to freely and almost frugally sustain growing populations.
      If you lived on a space station all your life and had to eat recycled paste out of a tube while having a weak bodily structure from living in zero-g you'd hate the frickers who have spring break every year too.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah it's not like they're influenced by a massive conflict littered with situations where early victories transition into a long war of attrition where the winner of the earlier battles is at a disadvantage.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Leaving aside the stupidity of Zeon and ZAFT, who decided to carry out large-scale operations to land troops on the planet, instead of eliminating everything with orbital bombardments and dropping asteroids, the Martians in Aldnoah need a relatively intact biosphere of the Earth.

        The Fall of Heaven was a Disaster and not a planned action, dropping assault castles from orbit to eliminate the main defense nodes of earthlings is quite meaningful (with the exception of their landing in the middle of a large city), but what does not raise questions is the absolute technological superiority of Versa's mecha.

        The power of the Martian cataphracts more than compensates for the small number of Orbital Knights, and the only thing that hinders them in battle is some disunity (the Aristocratic Trio under the command of Slaine in the second season is an example of overcoming such a disadvantage) in the ranks.

        And the victory of an autistic schoolchild over such an opponent with the help of a school physics course - something no one else on the planet thought about - looks far-fetched.

        Objectively, Aldnoah Zero should have been the story of the rise of Slaine, who receives Tarsis and unites the Knights of Vers in battles with an enemy many times superior in numbers and gradually developing technically, who does not hesitate to use scorched earth tactics and weapons of mass destruction, for example.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Leaving aside the stupidity of Zeon and ZAFT, who decided to carry out large-scale operations to land troops on the planet, instead of eliminating everything with orbital bombardments and dropping asteroids
          Mutually-assured destruction. What stops the Federation/Alliance from obliterating the space habitats with a swarm of nukes?
          Also, ZAFT is a bad example, since they never had the resources for a wide-scale occupation of the planet. They depended heavily on its earthside allies for their campaign.

          >in battles with an enemy many times superior in numbers
          What good is numerical superiority when your enemy can defeat you with what is basically fricking magic?

          >and gradually developing technically
          No, they were not. Earth's forces were woefully underpowered against Vers, who were not only mostly confined to the planet, but were also reeling from the utter devastation of Heaven's Fall: you can't tell me

          https://i.imgur.com/NiIDjKR.jpg

          >"Here's your world map, bro."

          didn't wipe at least three billion instantly. The Deucalion (Earth's only space battleship) worked because they found Asseylum, who turned its drive on. This scenario is so lopsided than an unconditional surrender would've been the best move for Earth.
          As you well said, if the Orbital Knights had been fighting as a united force instead of sabotaging each other, they would've exterminated Earth. But that doesn't make for a compelling story, does it?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Mutually-assured destruction. What stops the Federation/Alliance from obliterating the space habitats with a swarm of nukes?
            Other than the obvious answer of N-jammers, ZAFT seem to have "space superiority" (like air superiority) all over earth orbit except for Artemis and Ptolemaeus lunar base. EA fleets operating in Earth orbit are comparatively in more danger than ZAFT fleets. Also, any missile attack launched from Earth will still take 1 to 3 days to reach the lagrange point where PLANT is located, ZAFT can probably mobilize enough forces to intercept the missiles. Even when the fighting got close to PLANT at the end of Seed's war, the joint efforts of ZAFT forces and TSA were able to intercept all nukes fired by the EA fleet at what amounts to point blank range in terms of space combat, where it probably takes a nuclear missile no more than a couple of minutes to a few hours (distances unclear and never explained in the show) to reach PLANT.

            >Also, ZAFT is a bad example, since they never had the resources for a wide-scale occupation of the planet. They depended heavily on its earthside allies for their campaign.
            Neither did Zeon? Very few space factions in non-FTL stories have the manpower to just occupy most planets. You'd have to look at alien mega fleets like the 4.7 million ship Zentradi fleet in Macross or the ELS swarm from 00 to have the numbers for that.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Other than the obvious answer of N-jammers
              Those weren't deployed until months after the start of hostilities.

              >any missile attack launched from Earth will still take 1 to 3 days to reach the lagrange point where PLANT is located,
              You are thinking of a Hohmann orbit with the minimum of propellant for its payload, and human beings onboard a capsule. A one-way missile can accelerate far over the deadly limit for people
              For the sake of example, a rocket in LEO that accelerates at 30 g for five minutes has a final velocity of 88 km/s, which can cover the 285,000 km from Earth to a Lagrange point in a little over an hour.

              >ZAFT can probably mobilize enough forces to intercept the missiles.
              Already proven incorrect by the big battle at the start of Destiny: main EA fleet pinned down ZAFT's core forces, while a second fleet moved from the flank to launch nukes. PLANTs were only saved by the Neutron Stampeder. Without that thing, they'd all been killed.

              >Neither did Zeon?
              Yes, they did. Zeon had an military presence in pretty much all of Earth's surface, while actively occupying most of the Northern Hemisphere. North America, all of Eurasia and a good part of Africa were Zeon territory during the OYW. Even Jaburo, a supposedly secure Federation region, was subject to Gaw carpet bombings.
              It also helped that Earth had a population of about a billion in 0079.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Already proven incorrect by the big battle at the start of Destiny: main EA fleet pinned down ZAFT's core forces, while a second fleet moved from the flank to launch nukes. PLANTs were only saved by the Neutron Stampeder. Without that thing, they'd all been killed.
                No duh, the scenario where they have time is if the nukes are launched from Earth, not by a fleet already on PLANT's doorstep.

                >Yes, they did. Zeon had an military presence in pretty much all of Earth's surface, while actively occupying most of the Northern Hemisphere. North America, all of Eurasia and a good part of Africa were Zeon territory during the OYW.
                That doesn't quite mesh with this databook map showing the largest extent of Zeon's holdings on Earth, but technically it should be noted that anything not shaded in red is not exactly strictly Federation territory either.

                >Even Jaburo, a supposedly secure Federation region, was subject to Gaw carpet bombings.
                Both sides seemed to enter into each others' airspace and territory somewhat frequently, which is unthinkable nowadays but possible since minovsky particles fricked with long range detection. White Base spent a lot of time traveling through enemy territory and Revil sent unprotected cargo ships to resupply them as well. The White Base was generally in danger but wasn't exactly under constant enemy attack from all sides since it still took time and effort to locate them.

                Also, it seems pretty stupid but the Feds were happy to let Jaburo's surface jungle get carpet bombed daily without doing anything in return since they seemed to think Zeon would never be able to locate Jaburo and were just wasting resources conducting those bombing runs.

                >It also helped that Earth had a population of about a billion in 0079.
                Depending on the source, Zeon also only has a population of 150 million or 1.3 billion, but the Earth did have the advantage of recruiting personnel from the Sides before most of them were wiped out.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the scenario where they have time is if the nukes are launched from Earth, not by a fleet already on PLANT's doorstep.
                The Earth Alliance fleets took off from the moon, which is at the same distance to L4/L5 as Earth is (assuming the PLANTs are in L4 proper, rather than in orbit). Shallower gravity well, sure, but still.

                >That doesn't quite mesh with this databook map showing the largest extent of Zeon's holdings on Earth
                Thank you. I was looking for that map. Proves that Zeon's active occupation of Earth was immense. ZAFT could barely attack and hold a handful of bases before being forced to withdraw.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Mutually-assured destruction.
            It doesn’t work because both Zeon and Zaft had complete superiority in space and could glaze the Earth by throwing a couple of asteroids or colonies on it, and neither the Federation nor the Alliance had the strength to prevent this. Let me remind you of the completely canonical Colony drops on Jaburo/Sydney (in 0083 also on the American Midwest) and Junius-7, which, despite interception attempts, caused enormous destruction and caused a number of natural disasters.

            >What good is numerical superiority when your enemy can defeat you with what is basically fricking magic?
            When the enemy has both numerical superiority and superiority in technology, like in the lousy SEED? In Aldnoa, magic is more of Inaho's autistic genius.

            >No, they were not. Earth's forces were woefully underpowered against Vers
            Nope, even in the second season the earthlings had bases in orbit and retained control over a considerable number of areas of the planet. All this contradicts the idea of the "Unstoppable Vers". The problem is that the authors did not bother at all to introduce any computer system for analyzing the weaknesses of Vers mecha`s or a special group of analysts involved in developing tactics against specific Knights of Mars. All they were able to produce was a single autist with an implant for all the Earth’s troops.

            More of a reference to WW2.

            [...]
            >Mutually-assured destruction. What stops the Federation/Alliance from obliterating the space habitats with a swarm of nukes?
            Swarm of nukes? Just bombard the colonies at extreme range with a few battleship.

            >More of a reference to WW2.
            What the hell? It doesn't look like it at all. More like something like this - Middle Eastern pilots flying old Soviet fighters against American stealth planes.

            https://i.imgur.com/LP7Btqt.jpg

            >Already proven incorrect by the big battle at the start of Destiny: main EA fleet pinned down ZAFT's core forces, while a second fleet moved from the flank to launch nukes. PLANTs were only saved by the Neutron Stampeder. Without that thing, they'd all been killed.
            No duh, the scenario where they have time is if the nukes are launched from Earth, not by a fleet already on PLANT's doorstep.

            >Yes, they did. Zeon had an military presence in pretty much all of Earth's surface, while actively occupying most of the Northern Hemisphere. North America, all of Eurasia and a good part of Africa were Zeon territory during the OYW.
            That doesn't quite mesh with this databook map showing the largest extent of Zeon's holdings on Earth, but technically it should be noted that anything not shaded in red is not exactly strictly Federation territory either.

            >Even Jaburo, a supposedly secure Federation region, was subject to Gaw carpet bombings.
            Both sides seemed to enter into each others' airspace and territory somewhat frequently, which is unthinkable nowadays but possible since minovsky particles fricked with long range detection. White Base spent a lot of time traveling through enemy territory and Revil sent unprotected cargo ships to resupply them as well. The White Base was generally in danger but wasn't exactly under constant enemy attack from all sides since it still took time and effort to locate them.

            Also, it seems pretty stupid but the Feds were happy to let Jaburo's surface jungle get carpet bombed daily without doing anything in return since they seemed to think Zeon would never be able to locate Jaburo and were just wasting resources conducting those bombing runs.

            >It also helped that Earth had a population of about a billion in 0079.
            Depending on the source, Zeon also only has a population of 150 million or 1.3 billion, but the Earth did have the advantage of recruiting personnel from the Sides before most of them were wiped out.

            >That doesn't quite mesh with this databook map showing the largest extent of Zeon's holdings on Earth
            If these resources were spent on creating a network of orbital bases with heavy railguns for bombarding the Earth's surface, then it would be many times more effective.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You managed to show you don't understand the concept of mutually assured destruction, contradict yourself and made a reply purely driven by not bothering to look at context in the same post.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >of mutually assured destruction
                Man, there will be neither “mutual” nor even more so “guaranteed” destruction in a normally thought-out war between space colonies and the Earth.

                Simply because the planet is a huge and extremely fragile target and the launch of, say, a larger iron-clad asteroid from an electromagnetic accelerator or an attack from a Colonial Laser/GENESIS can, if not destroy it, then cause colossal damage to the surface. And earthlings will be forced to spend most of their efforts and resources on trying to stop the “colony reset,” so to speak.

                Even if they have the opportunity to attack space settlements, then
                1) there are quite a lot of them and they are quite strong on their own - space, after all, and the threat of meteorites with space debris
                2) they will be covered by the home fleet and battle stations to intercept a possible threat
                3) measures to protect and evacuate the population will reduce possible casualties if the missiles still reach

                The earth is at a disadvantage because of its natural advantages. Irony.
                ..................................................
                In the case of Aldnoa, everything is even simpler - Mars is beyond the reach of the Earth, and bases on the Moon and Orbital Castles can themselves attack the surface thanks to super-technologies.

                In general, it somehow turns out stupid - the earthlings “won” without any real advantages and reliable methods of counteraction, thanks to one autist and a stupid princess...meh

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Zeon and Zaft had complete superiority in space
              Wrong. The Federation had Luna II and the Alliance not only had the moon, but also Artemis.

              >In Aldnoa, magic is more of Inaho's autistic genius.
              No, magic is the literal power of Aldnoah, where Ortygia can create multiple copies of itself.

              >Nope, even in the second season the earthlings had bases in orbit and retained control over a considerable number of areas of the planet.
              Because the Martians were limited in number. Remove Inaho and Asseylum activating the Deucalion and UFE is as good as defeated.

              >If these resources were spent on creating a network of orbital bases with heavy railguns for bombarding the Earth's surface, then it would be many times more effective.
              Assuming your goal is extermination rather than occupation.

              https://i.imgur.com/FUbHJ4d.jpg

              >of mutually assured destruction
              Man, there will be neither “mutual” nor even more so “guaranteed” destruction in a normally thought-out war between space colonies and the Earth.

              Simply because the planet is a huge and extremely fragile target and the launch of, say, a larger iron-clad asteroid from an electromagnetic accelerator or an attack from a Colonial Laser/GENESIS can, if not destroy it, then cause colossal damage to the surface. And earthlings will be forced to spend most of their efforts and resources on trying to stop the “colony reset,” so to speak.

              Even if they have the opportunity to attack space settlements, then
              1) there are quite a lot of them and they are quite strong on their own - space, after all, and the threat of meteorites with space debris
              2) they will be covered by the home fleet and battle stations to intercept a possible threat
              3) measures to protect and evacuate the population will reduce possible casualties if the missiles still reach

              The earth is at a disadvantage because of its natural advantages. Irony.
              ..................................................
              In the case of Aldnoa, everything is even simpler - Mars is beyond the reach of the Earth, and bases on the Moon and Orbital Castles can themselves attack the surface thanks to super-technologies.

              In general, it somehow turns out stupid - the earthlings “won” without any real advantages and reliable methods of counteraction, thanks to one autist and a stupid princess...meh

              >a larger iron-clad asteroid from an electromagnetic accelerator
              This cuts both ways. Bombarding space colonies with railguns would obliterate them.

              >and they are quite strong on their own
              This is a joke, right? Science fiction authors have pointed out for decades that space habitats are ridiculously fragile. They are basically balloons filled with air floating in space. There's a least a dozen ways of destroying them that I can think of.

              >cause colossal damage to the surface. And earthlings will be forced to spend most of their efforts and resources on trying to stop the “colony reset,” so to speak.
              Then why this didn't work in Gundam X? The SRA did just that, bombarding Earth with O'Neill cylinders, and still the UNE was able to reorganize a space-faring force a mere 15 years later.
              This brings me to a point I was making on a different thread: even when it makes no fricking sense in its story context (X, SEED, G-Witch), the Gundam franchise and its derivatives like A/Z cannot completely get rid of the idea of a "federation" of some sort.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >This brings me to a point I was making on a different thread: even when it makes no fricking sense in its story context (X, SEED, G-Witch), the Gundam franchise and its derivatives like A/Z cannot completely get rid of the idea of a "federation" of some sort.
                Its easy to slap on when drawing random supranational organizations on a map.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Superiority is when one side holds an overwhelming advantage in that particular area, it doesn't mean "absolutely no enemies exist". After the starting stages of the war where the EA and EFSF fleets got trashed, ZAFT and Zeon held space superiority for most of the war and their ships could operate relatively freely and safely in most orbits around earth. I have no idea how the CE timeline goes, but as far as UC is concerned the EFSF makes no major operations or takes part in any major battles from about March to September or October 0079, they did not try to disrupt Zeon resupply to their Earth-side forces. The EA/EFSF could still operate ships in space but either at a disadvantage or in relatively high danger as they couldn't count on any nearby allies to come to their aid and could be generally outnumbered by enemies, until the EF makes a push back into space for the last two months of the war.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Superiority is when one side holds an overwhelming advantage in that particular area
                And anon mentioned areas where they had superiority.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >The Federation had Luna II and the Alliance not only had the moon, but also Artemis
                This

                Superiority is when one side holds an overwhelming advantage in that particular area, it doesn't mean "absolutely no enemies exist". After the starting stages of the war where the EA and EFSF fleets got trashed, ZAFT and Zeon held space superiority for most of the war and their ships could operate relatively freely and safely in most orbits around earth. I have no idea how the CE timeline goes, but as far as UC is concerned the EFSF makes no major operations or takes part in any major battles from about March to September or October 0079, they did not try to disrupt Zeon resupply to their Earth-side forces. The EA/EFSF could still operate ships in space but either at a disadvantage or in relatively high danger as they couldn't count on any nearby allies to come to their aid and could be generally outnumbered by enemies, until the EF makes a push back into space for the last two months of the war.

                Earthlings can maintain some presence in space, but not attack.

                >where Ortygia can create multiple copies of itself.
                It was a side effect of the "teleportation" technology... we have no idea about the specifics of the practical application of which in IRL. So this is acceptable.

                But the fact that out of the entire Earth army, only one autistic schoolboy managed to come up with countermeasures against several Martian Cataphracts is real story magic.

                >Because the Martians were limited in number.
                So you admit that the Vers supertechnology is not so powerful as to compensate for the small number of knight units even in space, the most advantageous combat zone for Martians?

                >Assuming your goal is extermination rather than occupation.
                For a space nation with access to the resources of asteroids, other planets and the sun, there is not much point in conquering the Earth, the main thing is to neutralize the enemy who has settled on it - so the strategy of "Exterminatus" is fully justified. (Unfortunately, the screenwriters turned Zion and ZAFT into idiots,)

                >have pointed out for decades that space habitats are ridiculously fragile
                That's just the same nonsense. No one would live on an overly fragile space station. Such macro structures as the O'Neill Island-3 or the PLANT Hourglass simply MUST have a proper margin of safety and damage protection systems. (Again, the screenwriters are Gundam idiots. Just look at the Macross Frontier - the local "Island" has withstood several fairly powerful attacks.)

                >the Gundam franchise and its derivatives like A/Z cannot completely get rid of the idea of a "federation" of some sort.
                Screenwriters are idiots.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >So you admit that the Vers supertechnology is not so powerful as to compensate for the small number of knight units even in space, the most advantageous combat zone for Martians?
                That's only because the Vers knights are morons that got themselves into a negotiated peace that could've well been a total victory had they conducted a coordinated military campaign. UFE has no space combatants (except one ship, the Deucalion) and no space military units outside of the Aerion, which can be destroyed by the hundreds by a single Martian Kataphract. Watch the second season: do you see anything else out there, outside of some silly transport shuttles?
                This is a story twisting and turning itself into knots to avoid the most obvious, logical conclusion: despite their overwhelming firepower advantage, the Martians simply cannot curbstomp Earth unimpeded. They should be wiped like insects, but aren't, and the cheapest excuse people like (You) can come up with is "numerical superiority".

                >Such macro structures as the O'Neill Island-3 or the PLANT Hourglass simply MUST have a proper margin of safety and damage protection systems
                Against natural phenomena like cosmic radiation. sporadic solar flares and meteoroid impacts, not a deliberate military attack.

                >Just look at the Macross Frontier - the local "Island" has withstood several fairly powerful attacks
                That's a colony ship sending people into mostly uncharted space: it needs as much protection as technologically possible. Also, Macross has a vastly superior technological level than Gundam UC/CE, starting with commonplace FTL.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >That's only because...
                You say so?

                Let me remind you that the second part begins with an attack by a detachment of Earth's cataphracts on a Martian convoy in space and makes the crews of the Vers spaceships nervous until Slane arrives.

                That is, the "earth federation" has enough troops and resources to, after a considerable time after the start of the Martian invasion, not only resist on the planet, but also support the space grouping of its troops.

                The UN troops are numerous enough to constantly lose cataphract detachments in battles with the Orbital Knights and at the same time maintain relative combat capability, and the Earth command does not admit defeat, not looking at huge losses relative to the Martian

                The lack of real unity among the Versians also helps the Earth avoid defeat, however, as the battle of the Trio of Nobles against a full-fledged squad with Inaho in its composition showed, it was numerical superiority that allowed the "federals" to hold out in battle and collect data that allowed them to defeat the knight cataphracts.

                >and meteoroid impacts
                Dude, meteorites and space debris are, in general, no less dangerous than rockets. And, if the station is a habitat for hundreds of thousands / millions of people, then it MUST be strong enough and consecrated to withstand the impact of dangerous space objects and recover from them.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                All existing designs for space habitats contemplate the risk of micro-meteoroids impacting the shell on a more or less regular basis. To repeat myself, a deliberate military attack with railguns or a powerful beam weapon would most certainly crack the habitat.

                Think of it like the suspension on a Jeep. While it is designed for driving on harsh environments, that doesn't mean you can drop the vehicle from a building and still expect it to work.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Look, Gundam F91, where a couple of rather big holes were made in the attacked colony, but not only did it not fall apart, but it continued to be inhabited.

                If from the new AU, then Astikasia was attacked from the inside, but at the same time she suffered damage from the Gundams' combat ray gun quite stoutly and subsequently continued to work

                There are more examples, but, unfortunately, they are overlaid by scenes of the destruction of colonies for the sake of drama. However, the exceptions just demonstrate that a huge habitable space station based on future technologies IS a very tenacious structure.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                A colony might survive some "small" random attacks that will destroy any vehicle, even a big hole in a window.
                What I'm talking about is an intentional attack. Thinking that Earth's surface is less protected than a bunch of floating metal cans with pressurized air is absurd.

                >scenes of the destruction of colonies for the sake of drama
                Or that, again, space habitats are fragile structures and that a deliberate attack to destroy them (a weapon in the hundreds of megajoules range, be it explosive or kinetic) will crack them with ease.
                http://www.rocketpunk-manifesto.com/2010/07/revolt-of-colonies.html?showComment=1278306150044#c128143493822374003

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Thinking that Earth's surface is less protected than a bunch of floating metal cans with pressurized air is absurd.
                Wasn't the Zanneck bombarding the Earth's surface from like a hundred kilometers up?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The Earth is a single and extremely vulnerable target - asteroid impacts sometimes lead to massive changes in the biosphere and the extinction of many species of living beings. It is also not difficult for such an orbital strike to destroy a civilization.

                Space Colonies, or rather clusters of huge inhabited space stations at Lagrange points, number in the hundreds. These objects are in dynamic motion and these clusters are protected by space forces and "air defense" systems, which seriously complicates any targeted shooting

                Bringing the fleet to attack the "Side" directly is quite problematic without equal numbers or superiority in the number of ships.
                .................................................
                In relation to Aldnoa, we have Vers bases embedded in the surface of the Moon's debris and Orbital Locks. In both cases, these are huge, hard-to-attack and extremely durable structures. In fact, for the entire duration of the fighting in the series, not a single Martian space fortress has been captured or destroyed by the Earth.

                However, the Martians have an extremely limited number of attacking mecha units (at least before the appearance of "Stigis"), which are also directly connected to the Castle's control system, which makes the defeat of every count on Earth extremely expensive for the Empire of Versace.

                Apparently, this is how the authors tried to show at least some kind of balance of power, but they screwed up by making the autistic Inaho the only genius capable of defeating Knights. On the other hand, the Martians' lack of mecha units in support of personal mecha - monkey models for knights in the service of the count or drones imitating the count's mecha (at least something like the atomic parts of Dioscuria or Stigis) is also an omission by the author, because then the fights could become more diverse

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >The Earth is a single and extremely vulnerable target - asteroid impacts sometimes lead to massive changes in the biosphere and the extinction of many species of living beings. It is also not difficult for such an orbital strike to destroy a civilization.
                To repeat myself, Gundam X. There is still an "Earth Federation" with power enough to evenly fight against the SRA. The latter just didn't finish the job.

                >These objects are in dynamic motion and these clusters are protected by space forces and "air defense" systems, which seriously complicates any targeted shooting
                You can't defend against a railgun shot from the other side of the Earth sphere. A salvo of 100 kilojoule shots cracks anything.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                T-72 is way too generous for Sleipnir. It should be this, instead.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/JHXOQim.jpg

              >The Federation had Luna II and the Alliance not only had the moon, but also Artemis
              This [...] Earthlings can maintain some presence in space, but not attack.

              >where Ortygia can create multiple copies of itself.
              It was a side effect of the "teleportation" technology... we have no idea about the specifics of the practical application of which in IRL. So this is acceptable.

              But the fact that out of the entire Earth army, only one autistic schoolboy managed to come up with countermeasures against several Martian Cataphracts is real story magic.

              >Because the Martians were limited in number.
              So you admit that the Vers supertechnology is not so powerful as to compensate for the small number of knight units even in space, the most advantageous combat zone for Martians?

              >Assuming your goal is extermination rather than occupation.
              For a space nation with access to the resources of asteroids, other planets and the sun, there is not much point in conquering the Earth, the main thing is to neutralize the enemy who has settled on it - so the strategy of "Exterminatus" is fully justified. (Unfortunately, the screenwriters turned Zion and ZAFT into idiots,)

              >have pointed out for decades that space habitats are ridiculously fragile
              That's just the same nonsense. No one would live on an overly fragile space station. Such macro structures as the O'Neill Island-3 or the PLANT Hourglass simply MUST have a proper margin of safety and damage protection systems. (Again, the screenwriters are Gundam idiots. Just look at the Macross Frontier - the local "Island" has withstood several fairly powerful attacks.)

              >the Gundam franchise and its derivatives like A/Z cannot completely get rid of the idea of a "federation" of some sort.
              Screenwriters are idiots.

              https://i.imgur.com/k6TiIIW.jpg

              >That's only because...
              You say so?

              Let me remind you that the second part begins with an attack by a detachment of Earth's cataphracts on a Martian convoy in space and makes the crews of the Vers spaceships nervous until Slane arrives.

              That is, the "earth federation" has enough troops and resources to, after a considerable time after the start of the Martian invasion, not only resist on the planet, but also support the space grouping of its troops.

              The UN troops are numerous enough to constantly lose cataphract detachments in battles with the Orbital Knights and at the same time maintain relative combat capability, and the Earth command does not admit defeat, not looking at huge losses relative to the Martian

              The lack of real unity among the Versians also helps the Earth avoid defeat, however, as the battle of the Trio of Nobles against a full-fledged squad with Inaho in its composition showed, it was numerical superiority that allowed the "federals" to hold out in battle and collect data that allowed them to defeat the knight cataphracts.

              >and meteoroid impacts
              Dude, meteorites and space debris are, in general, no less dangerous than rockets. And, if the station is a habitat for hundreds of thousands / millions of people, then it MUST be strong enough and consecrated to withstand the impact of dangerous space objects and recover from them.

              where are these pictures from? I don't recall seeing them in the AZ artbooks up on e-hentai

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Which is with a mechanical double-headed dragon from the side manga ALDNOAH.ZERO Gaiden: Twin Gemini, and for the rest, it's worth saying "thank you" to the Koreans.

                About the twins, the first 6 chapters with translation can be read on Ellen's blog (curiously, the Martians faced quite competent resistance from the Japanese garrison with militia and without one autistic person)
                https://dokidokimaster.tumblr.com/post/108318532303/twin-gemini-chapter-1-translation

                Illustrations with a description in Korean (electronic translator to help) can be viewed here
                https://bbs.ruliweb.com/family/211/board/300075/read/28612349

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                ty

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          More of a reference to WW2.

          https://i.imgur.com/nq9D0Mp.jpg

          >Leaving aside the stupidity of Zeon and ZAFT, who decided to carry out large-scale operations to land troops on the planet, instead of eliminating everything with orbital bombardments and dropping asteroids
          Mutually-assured destruction. What stops the Federation/Alliance from obliterating the space habitats with a swarm of nukes?
          Also, ZAFT is a bad example, since they never had the resources for a wide-scale occupation of the planet. They depended heavily on its earthside allies for their campaign.

          >in battles with an enemy many times superior in numbers
          What good is numerical superiority when your enemy can defeat you with what is basically fricking magic?

          >and gradually developing technically
          No, they were not. Earth's forces were woefully underpowered against Vers, who were not only mostly confined to the planet, but were also reeling from the utter devastation of Heaven's Fall: you can't tell me [...] didn't wipe at least three billion instantly. The Deucalion (Earth's only space battleship) worked because they found Asseylum, who turned its drive on. This scenario is so lopsided than an unconditional surrender would've been the best move for Earth.
          As you well said, if the Orbital Knights had been fighting as a united force instead of sabotaging each other, they would've exterminated Earth. But that doesn't make for a compelling story, does it?

          >Mutually-assured destruction. What stops the Federation/Alliance from obliterating the space habitats with a swarm of nukes?
          Swarm of nukes? Just bombard the colonies at extreme range with a few battleship.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Shipboard mega particle cannons have a limited range of perhaps 100km to 200km at most. Also consider the size of a colony, shooting it with a regular mega particle cannon is like poking a watermelon with a sewing needle. It would take many hours or even days firing enough MP beams to demolish something as big as a colony. Even the bigger weapons like the Argama and Nahel Argama hyper mega particle cannons were just shoving around small asteroids or blowing up -fragments- of a colony.

            This is literally the reason why just shooting the asteroid and colonies in CCA and 0083 and Operation British wasn't an option. Feds couldn't even get close enough to open fire since the colonies were being protected by Zeon fleets. It's also the reason why the Gryps colony laser still exists in Unicorn, it is maybe the one weapon that could stop a colony or asteroid so they decided to rebuild and keep it in case someone tries another drop.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Shipboard mega particle cannons have a limited range of perhaps 100km to 200km at most.
              Thought it was more of them unable to detect each other, which might not be as much of a problem for colonies.

              >Also consider the size of a colony, shooting it with a regular mega particle cannon is like poking a watermelon with a sewing needle.
              I think of it as poking a rigid balloon with a few dozen small sewing needles. Its a relatively small closed system, too many holes, a few missed patched holes or lucky hits that cause some secondary damage could eventually make it unlivable. Wasn't going for shoot the colonies until they're shredded.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Because the story of the anti-hero Slaine is many times more interesting than that of the autistic Inaho. However, the authors persistently push this “genius” of the Earth into the main characters, turning the story itself and the interaction of the characters into a farce.
      Inaho is like a parody of anime Mary Sues. It would work in a show like Valvrave, but not in A/Z.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >underrated
    Dude this show was a trainwreck from beginning to end.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Battles are engaging (HxH style).
    holy mother of baits

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >"Here's your world map, bro."

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      ...this is worse that the Haden Era. How the frick would humanity survive this?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Hadean Era?

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    MC loves eggs. I love eggs. He's literally me!

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It wasn't underrated it was genuinely just not good.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >underrated
    Because it sucked.
    >Battles are engaging (HxH style).
    Every single fight went the exact same way. Inaho's omnipotence is only rivaled by Tatsuya Shiba and Jesus Yamato. HxH should not be your standard for anything.
    >Story has a few unexpected twists
    It had two twists, one of them making the series unsalvageable at the tail end.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Looking back, we were a bit too harsh on Aldnoah Zero

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Story is dogshit
    >pretends the protagonist and antagonist both died as a cliffhanger when it's blatantly obvious they didn't because the show would be directionless without them
    Writers are hacks just wasting your time.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Botched ending, bringing back Eggs and Asshime in the second season was a mistake. Also subconsciously reminds Americans of the WOT and how we got btfo by goat herders.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Also subconsciously reminds Americans of the WOT and how we got btfo by goat herders.

      I didn't get that when I saw this anime?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I didn't get that when I saw this anime?
        It's extremely obvious. Probably the denial blinding you.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          And in what way does the war in the anime evoke the War on Terror? Who's the US stand in? Who's the Afghanistan stand in? Who's the Iraq stand in? Who're the Al-Qaeda stand ins?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Like I said, it's obvious. Take a crack at it. I'll explain after you give it a try. There are readily-apparent parallels in terms of technological level, length of the existence of a given culture, outcome of the war, etc.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >There are readily-apparent parallels in terms of technological level

              I see. Was looking at it from a geopolitical lens.

              Truth be told, I've yet to finish my rewatch. I'll do so sometime.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Maybe if you squint and twist things into the most generous interpretation and ignore other cases where those parallels would fit equally well. If it's meant to evoke the war on terror, it does a crappy job. This comes off very much like people claiming Evangelion invented everything.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No, not really. There are other factors, including MSG parallels, topicality, parallels between specific events (the landing castle drop mirroring shock-and-awe; also landing on New Orleans, specifically), etc. The main question is why they would look to the WOT, and it's likely because it was the most relatable touchpoint for wartime and cultural hubris, on which much of the show's geopolitical and interpersonal dynamics run.
                But I don't expect you to admit that it's the most fitting real-life inspiration, because, again, denial. Americans are nothing if not exceptional at bending reality in order to reject anything that would make them feel inadequate (also, projection, Mr. "Squint and Twist Things.").
                What I'll give is that it isn't a traditional evocation of the WOT, as we are used to seeing such things. It's not supposed to be. If you were to let yourself be open to the viewpoint it's trying to convey, however, you might acquire some understanding of how other parts of the world saw our military misadventure, and a fuller overall picture of that history. AZ reads quite legibly as from the perspective of an ally processing the bullshit they got dragged into (which is a nice detour from the nippon banzai we usually get from less self-critical /m/).

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                For someone going on about projection you sure are certain others are an american in denial and not, say, someone from another part of the world that saw your military misadventure and had to process the bullshit they got dragged into. Please do continue to bend reality in order to reject anything that would make you feel inadequate.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Just so you know, not everyone here is from the United States of America. As the one who wrote

                >Also subconsciously reminds Americans of the WOT and how we got btfo by goat herders.

                I didn't get that when I saw this anime?

                ,

                And in what way does the war in the anime evoke the War on Terror? Who's the US stand in? Who's the Afghanistan stand in? Who's the Iraq stand in? Who're the Al-Qaeda stand ins?

                , and

                >There are readily-apparent parallels in terms of technological level

                I see. Was looking at it from a geopolitical lens.

                Truth be told, I've yet to finish my rewatch. I'll do so sometime.

                , I'm from the Philippines so the War on Terror was something that I didn't really pay much attention.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Philippines
                You have your own struggle with Islamic insurgents.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I bet you thought this was clever.

                He does this every time an Aldnoah Zero thread don't bother.

                Don't samegay.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Don't samegay
                Stop thinking you're clever.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                wtf are you on about

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                He does this every time an Aldnoah Zero thread don't bother.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No, not really. There are other factors, including MSG parallels, topicality, parallels between specific events (the landing castle drop mirroring shock-and-awe; also landing on New Orleans, specifically), etc. The main question is why they would look to the WOT, and it's likely because it was the most relatable touchpoint for wartime and cultural hubris, on which much of the show's geopolitical and interpersonal dynamics run.
      But I don't expect you to admit that it's the most fitting real-life inspiration, because, again, denial. Americans are nothing if not exceptional at bending reality in order to reject anything that would make them feel inadequate (also, projection, Mr. "Squint and Twist Things.").
      What I'll give is that it isn't a traditional evocation of the WOT, as we are used to seeing such things. It's not supposed to be. If you were to let yourself be open to the viewpoint it's trying to convey, however, you might acquire some understanding of how other parts of the world saw our military misadventure, and a fuller overall picture of that history. AZ reads quite legibly as from the perspective of an ally processing the bullshit they got dragged into (which is a nice detour from the nippon banzai we usually get from less self-critical /m/).

      I'm American and even I think you're full of shit. I don't even think you're American. Second generation or Anchor baby, at best, but barely even considered a citizen and you sound like a pussy regardless. Nobody says shit like "cultural hubris" unless they're trying to pad out an essay or don't have a solid grasp on english. You're dancing around circumstantial evidence and actively avoiding specific examples like you don't even believe what you're posting.

      If you have the Director saying this in interviews about the show drop the sauce, if not then shut the frick up homosexual.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think there have been any translated interviews where the director said anything. As far as the opening episodes go it reminded me more of local history. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gekokuj%C5%8D.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    its actually about how i want to have sex with a cute anime princess not whatever homosexual shit you're saying

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Urobochi wrote so it's shit

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Shame we'll never learn about the ancient Martians or why their tech turns humans into raging psychopaths, or why the Martian settlers adopted a feudal system within decades of living there.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >discover ancient ruins and tech on mars
      >send a shitton of scientists there to research the findings
      >the scientists declare independence and create a monarchical state based on bloodline and twofaced society of class, merit, and honor on the outside but everyone's some kind of fricking backstabbing schemer on the inside

      never made any fricking sense to me

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nerds were the fricking villains all along. Revenge of the Nerds was a prophecy.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it was good for like 5 episodes then it went downhill and fast

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ah, apparently, the powers that be hyped it as a Gundam killer. Look how it turned out.

    Also, gotta make Inaho look really strong at the expense of the rest of the cast, or at least most of them if not all

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Did this series even get model kits? I haven't heard of a Moderoid even.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The ensemble cast thing was only evident in the three parter pilot that Urobuchi wrote where everyone contributed to taking out Nilokeras. Outside of that, it was just Inaho doing everything such as him taking out the dual wielding plasma katana mech in the immediate episodes following that.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Why it's so underrated?
    No new sequel

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