why these older bodybuilders look much more like the greek ideal than the current day ones?
was it their diet? did they all die in ww1 and 2?
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why these older bodybuilders look much more like the greek ideal than the current day ones?
was it their diet? did they all die in ww1 and 2?
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Because they were natty and didn't overclock their bodies with drugs like they do today.
Modern bodybuilders, the only ones you see promoted anywhere, are all following the mr olympia massive roid physique. Its nothing even remotely natural like strongmen used to be
Because neither used steroids
>why these older bodybuilders look much more like the greek ideal than the current day ones?
unironically because of the bench press
greek statues and these bodybuilders have one thing in common: DYEL pecs
some people think it looks better, imo a decent pair of breasts really helps a physique
but anyway if you want to look like the greek ideals then don't bench, hell don't pushup either, just press above ya hed
My chest insertions look like shit so I have to get bench breasts to look good, I can't do no bench and have that aesthetic cause they aren't perfectly squared off and flat like that even when I cut
Pushups is a natural movement similar in many senses to walking on all fours. Even our closest relatives chimps do it all the time, almost every primate and mammal in general do, that's why we're called "tetrapods" - tetrapods = four feet.
Why would those muscles develop so well if they are not natural to develop? Why would they look so aesthetic if they're some artificial modern construct?
If intentionally developing your arms is regarded as healthy and natural the same can be said for your chest, at least by doing pushups and weighted pushups.
bullshit. Pushups are a recent invention, and if you read up about actual ancient greek workouts and exercises, they didnt do, know of, nor even consider pushups. The closest they had was going from laying flat to standing up, in which the chest has only minor activation unlike pushups. The pushup is not funtional like lifting things up from the ground or lifting items overhead. If you do any real world pushing, you know you either do it with arms extended, or with the blade of your forearms, neither of which have great amounts of chest activation.
>that's why we're called "tetrapods" - tetrapods = four feet.
thanks smart guy, I didn't figure that out
It's not roidtroony pecs by any stretch but these chests are absolutely not DYEL. The Greeks placed great value on a broad chest.
btw new Heracles statue just dropped boys
these are all fake statues probably
only breker's ones are real
A broad chest isn’t created with bench, that just gives you bolt ons. If you want a broad chest work OHP and it’s variants a long with pull ups and other back work outs.
>If you want a broad chest work OHP and it’s variants
This sounds like the perfect recipe for time wasted on a dyel chest. Dumbbell flyes is where it's at.
Well thats not true, the 60's and 70's bodybuilders looked like the Greek ideal
These early 1900's guys just were dyel
They were practically juicing from how high their test was compared to men nowadays
Why do we have such low testosterone now?
I feel like I'm going down a rabbit hole of forbidden information.
Lifestyle, xenoestrogens, microplastics, endocrene disrupters, tyroid disruption, cattle pumped with estrogens, ect.
You are under consistent and constant biological attaq since before you were born (these things get into the uterus).
I read something about exposure to xenostrogens stunting the growth of your balls so you can never produce the normal amount of testosterone a man should be able to. This seems intentional.
Basically what
says, a lot of shit which turns into estrogen that you get exposed to at young ages, which just stunts you. It's definitely possible to recover some bit from it, avoid drinking from plastics, eat high protein, get 8+ hours of sleep, don't use paraffin or chemical soaps (use natural made bar soaps), avoid Sneed oils, lose fat as that turns test to est. Nofap can also do quite a bit but it can be very hard if you end up getting to higher test territories. I used to be able to do it for two months but nowadays two weeks at most is all, although I feel fricking fantastic after two days abstaining just from that boost. Shit like environment affects your test too, like too high stress.
>TLDR
While we have lower test levels, it's more than possible to increase it through various things which compound into a massive increase
This is the way I see it too.
Modernity has lead to these factors which are decimating test levels, but it has also given us the opportunity to know what's causing it and ways to counteract it.
If you spend the time to learn and commit the knowledge to practice consistently you will be miles ahead of the curve.
Modernity is the poison and the cure.
The negative impact of chronically low test levels is having on a society wide level is a whole other problem however.
Yes... modernity.
Yes, ~~*modernity*~~ must one dog whistle in every post?
>modernity
What brand of tinfoil do you recommend for a hat?
I think the difference is more likely attributed to all the processed foods in general, staying up until 2am consooming media, and just the increase in sedentary lifestyle
le hecking consooming media doesn't have effects on testosterone production you moronic shill
endocrine disruptors do, it's literally in the name
What am I shilling?
> hurr durr I stay up all night consooming media, a good night sleep has literally no effect on your test levels. It’s the democrats fault for putting fluoride in the water hurrr durr
like i said my israeli nonshil troony, endocrine disruptors affect test levels not staying up
You need at least 8hrs of sleep or it will disrupt your endocrine system.
t. Nature Made (TM) brand Melatonin salesman
keep coping that it was your sleep manlet
> sleep is a cope
I directly said it's caused by Sneed oils, which are used in practically every processed food, lack of sleep, high stress and increases in fat. I just also mentioned paraffins and plastics, which have an actual effect on you to the extent they're commonly banned.
> I just also mentioned paraffins and plastics, which have an actual effect on you to the extent they're commonly banned.
If it’s banned, how would it have any effect on me? moron
N-nothing to see here guys. Just some crazy conspiracy theorists.
They literally didn't lol. Even the super duper upper range test level is literally nothing compared to roiding.
Incredibly funny that people think the modern bodybuilders are roiding.
What? Do you think this is a natural human being?
lenny is 100% natural 200% freak and 3% black
is this a pasta? vast majority of modern bodybuilders openly state it
Sean connery in mr universe
Liquid cocaine until 1900 and MDMA with methandienone from 1914. THe 1950 story from ameritards and methandienone is fairrytale,ukranian style fairytale. Germany,1914: MethylDiamineMethylAmphetamine and methandienone.
Dont send flowers,its just the average hungarian education.
you will never be Varangian :^)
>methandienone from 1914
you're full of shit