With the push to reduce the consumption of animal products due to the environmental impact how are we going to make gains?

With the push to reduce the consumption of animal products due to the environmental impact how are we going to make gains?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >how are we going to make gains?
    Eating meat. However we will probably get to the point where one has to let go of every other luxury in life to be able to afford meat. But then again, nothing is more valuable than your health.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Soon they'll start taxing meat products, just like they do with tobacco and alcohol

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        this, they should start doing it to very overweight people tho

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Oh they won't. Goyslop will still be cheap. Real food on the other hand will become prohibitively expensive.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            goyslop isn't cheap at all its actually more expensive than meat now unless its on a market sale.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Worst case scenario, I build a chicken coop for eggs/meat. Maybe a couple goats.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Oi, you got a license for that?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Basically the reality of the situation now that more and more neighborhoods have ~~*HOAs*~~
            I'd probably build the coop tucked away where it's not really visible from the street

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >living in a gnomish scam

              Friendly reminder that garden gnomes invented the suburb. Google levittstown ny.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I own chickens and I live right next to Levittown. My gram lives in her original Levit house and it's a pretty nice area still at least. A lot of Indian people moving in now that the 1st gen house owners are dying off but they're all pleasant enough people

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                There are like 5 levittowns and the entire east coast is a horrific overpopulated decrepit shithole.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Knowing garden gnomes in government, it would only be for pork.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >how are we going to make gains
    You can still make gains by eating plants.
    Afaik chickpeas, buckwheat, amaranth and quinoa have a good digestibility and are complete protein. Even if you don't eat them you can still mix 2 foods in order to get all EAAs.
    Rip ketofags tho.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      So you saying I need to eat amouranth's pussy everyday for godtier gains?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This plus pea/rice protein blend, nuts, hemp and even some occasional tofu/tempeh. Life-long vegetarian and vegan for the past 5 years. Very possible to look great on a plant based diet. Most will struggle to get enough protein though

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Enjoy being a bloatlord with no energy
      > t. Ex vegan/veg for 10+ years

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        > t. Ex vegan/veg for 10+ years
        >Still struggling with bloating
        Lmao
        >No energy
        Just eat carbs bro, were you feeding primarly on hyper processed fake meat or something?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >bro trust me just eat 1 metric cube worth of spinach every day its totally normal and wayyy more healthier than eating deenz or a chicken breast.

      Im not even a ketomoron and i can see how dumb this is, i think veganism should be a voluntery thing for most of the population, the only people who whould be forced to eat ze plant bazed meatz should be fatties and NEETs or something

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >and i can see how dumb this is
        Probably because you made a retarded strawman that no one is saying.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >amaranth
      Nice try, she's a streamer and doesn't provide any protein

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you can make plenty of perfectly good food without meat, and the average slob wouldn't even feel the health effects if you replaced half their hamburgers with beans, chickpeas, etc alternatives.

    Of course those are cheap, unprofitable, and don't rub what you're doing in the goyim's face enough. We need to have onions chemical imitation deep fried in seed oil and sold at the same price regular meat cost last year.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >you can make plenty of perfectly good meat with plants, just feed those plants to animals
      Fixed that for you

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        you had to completely change my sentence so you could repeat a joke i've seen in fucking boomer comics. I sentence you to eating 1/2 an impossible burger.
        The point was it wouldn't kill the average american to eat some beans or lentils, just not in a way that feeds the consoomer machine.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hate this shit so much because of how little meat even contributes to muh climate change. It's such of load of shit, no fucking cow farts don't cause global warming you fucking retard methane doesn't stay in the atmosphere as long as CO2 does, and it's cyclical, Cow eats grass -> poos and farts -> leads to more grass. Most of the net pollution that comes from animal agriculture is also from the third world, not highly optimized farms in the US or Australia that yield shit tons of meat every year.
    You have to be a complete useful idiot to go vegan because of that shit.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You have a verified, scientific source to back that up?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Whatever the cows fart are already a part of the carbon cycle. Nothing new is added to the system. Even that crazy amount of water is just rain water lmao.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I'll take photooxidation for $2000 alex
        >dodododoodododo DAILY DOUBLE
        >This gas, emitted by farm ruminants, and blamed for being a potent "greenhouse gas" photooxidizes in the atmosphere into harmless CO2 and watervapor within 48 hours
        >what is methane
        >correct!

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          > "Methane is not a problem. Co2 is!"
          > "Methane breaks down into Co2 and harmless vapor"
          Lmao

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            except that's not what fucking little retard glowbull warmists like you harp on and on about. They chant that methane is a "particularly potent greenhouse gas, 500,000x worse than CO2!!!1!1!!" When in reality it quickly just photooxidizes into CO2 and water vapor.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              the heads of these type of people that seethe about emissions usually explode if you tell them that without a single emission the planet would continue going to shit.

              ecology is my hobby, I forward a lot of information to people that make a living from it, literally none of us think that it's the temperature that's fucking shit up, there's been severe swings in temperature within the recent evolutionary history of literally just about any animal that currently exists.

              when we say 'climate change' we don't mean the overarching temperature creep, we mean that we're logging forests which exposes the soil to sunlight and causes it to erode, we're plowing grassland ecosystems because they're easily turned into agriculture, and we're draining swamps for it too, the only nature we actively conserve is rocks and ice.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >I'll take photooxidation for $2000 alex
              >dodododoodododo DAILY DOUBLE
              >This gas, emitted by farm ruminants, and blamed for being a potent "greenhouse gas" photooxidizes in the atmosphere into harmless CO2 and watervapor within 48 hours
              >what is methane
              >correct!

              Any source on the claim that methane dissapears in a matter of days ?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://acomstaff.acom.ucar.edu/dkin/Documents/Johnston_98JD01213.pdf

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                So where exactly does that study make the claim that methane dissapears in a matter of day?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why don't you read it you fucking little retard? Is reading so hard for you?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Oh noes, he called me out on my off-topic study that I wanted to bluff him with
                >Better ad hominem him

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                that's a very long winded way of saying
                >WAHHH I CANT READ AND UNDERSTAND SCIENTIFIC LITERATURE

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
                [...]
                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6723444/
                >Plant-based proteins are less digestible than animal proteins [50]. This could be due to the different >structure of plant versus animal proteins. The secondary structure of plant proteins is characterized by >a high content in β-sheet conformation and a relatively low α-helix amount compared to that of animal >proteins [64]. The high content in β-sheet conformation is likely related to its resistance to proteolysis in >the gastrointestinal tract.
                >resistance to proteolysis in the gastrointestinal tract.
                >resistance to proteolysis in the gastrointestinal tract.
                >resistance to proteolysis in the gastrointestinal tract.
                >resistance to proteolysis in the gastrointestinal tract.
                >durr that's from a ketolard utub vidya durr hurr
                just fucking rope yourself already

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Can shut me up by just posting a screenshot of the part that agrees with him
                >Doesn't do it
                Yeah, I'm thinking bullshit.
                And judging by your posting style you are also

                [...]
                [...]
                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6723444/
                >Plant-based proteins are less digestible than animal proteins [50]. This could be due to the different >structure of plant versus animal proteins. The secondary structure of plant proteins is characterized by >a high content in β-sheet conformation and a relatively low α-helix amount compared to that of animal >proteins [64]. The high content in β-sheet conformation is likely related to its resistance to proteolysis in >the gastrointestinal tract.
                >resistance to proteolysis in the gastrointestinal tract.
                >resistance to proteolysis in the gastrointestinal tract.
                >resistance to proteolysis in the gastrointestinal tract.
                >resistance to proteolysis in the gastrointestinal tract.
                >durr that's from a ketolard utub vidya durr hurr
                just fucking rope yourself already

                that got BTFO'ed by other anons for not completely reading another study you posted.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You asked for the source, now read it you ADHD riddled zoomer

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah I read it, and no fucking mention of methane photoxidation ending in 48 hours was found.
                Why are you so afraid of posting a screenshot?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Uh I spent five seconds Googling this and uncritically swallowed the first result the algorithm shat out at me, so you're clearly wrong

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                yea none of this addresses forever chemicals and shit constantly dumped in oceans. CO2 is a tiny part of the shit going on. the planet itself will be here regardless of any CO2 induced disaster, if it actually occurs. The other chemicals, microplastics, etc, will be here for nearly forever - damaging every living creature and corrupting its DNA.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                There were far more numerous large animals before in history than there are now with absolutely no impacts on the environment. You will NEVER convince us of cows causing climate change, carbonphobic brainlets will NEVER be correct. You either have financial, ideological, or fear investments in that retardation to even remotely entertain such filthy and obvious distortions.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >There were far more numerous large animals before in history
                Source on that claim?

                https://i.imgur.com/QcK53qK.png

                >Uh I spent five seconds Googling this and uncritically swallowed the first result the algorithm shat out at me, so you're clearly wrong

                >Dodging the point
                I asked for a source anon and I still didn't get it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Uh, did you just claim something without a source? You have to send me a source so I can not read it and judge it solely on who made it

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >potht thourthe tho I may critique the thourthe
                Fuck back to rebdit you cripple brained gay

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Farm animals produce less air pollution than big pharma or big agi.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The problem with farm pollution is from plowing and leaving the land/micro-organisms exposed to sunlight for months and months out of the year. We're killing the soil, which in turn produces nutritionless food. Same problem with pavement, it doesn't absorb anything like soil and plants do so we just bake. We're taking away our insulation and replacing it with fucking heating coils, murdering our sacred place where we bury death and grow life and replacing it with packaged, processed goods and increasingly nutrient starved, artifically enriched flesh. We're putting on the clown make up as we speak, and the sweaty drops are making the paint streak. We gotta fix the way we farm/relate to the land, full stop. We gotta fix the way we raise animals and give them proper access to grazing grounds and nutritious foods, or pretty soon you'll be eating six steaks and still feeling hungry, cuz all that heavy flesh just ain't fucking worth anything.

                Photorealistic food, photorealistic people. Only good for screen-shotting.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        look at the sources for this video:

        Raising lifestock doesn't produce any "new" CO2. The methane that gets released by cows farting gets converted into CO2 within a few days. It's the exact same amount of CO2 that was earlier absorbed by the plants that the cows ate, so there's zero new CO2 being added to that circle.
        The same applies to the water "wasted" by raising lifestock - the vast majority of water that's used for raising lifestock is "green" water, meaning just rainwater that isn't drinkable directly anyway. Dirty water gets drunk by cows -> cows piss out the water -> you now have the exact same amount of dirty water that you started out with.

        This is all a huge scam by the fossile fuel lobby because they want to blame climate change on something else.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        fucking nerd virgin r*ddit moron, you do not lift I can guarantee it you twink hipster gay

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cow farts are legitimately 10-13% of methane released into our atmosphere per annum.

      Sorry your simpleton mind cannot grasp these basic concepts. I can tell you've never worked on a farm. Just a dumbass city boy propagandized by your favorite rich spoiled DYEL city boy mouthpieces (Tucker, Alex Jones, Shapiro, etc.)

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        see

        >I'll take photooxidation for $2000 alex
        >dodododoodododo DAILY DOUBLE
        >This gas, emitted by farm ruminants, and blamed for being a potent "greenhouse gas" photooxidizes in the atmosphere into harmless CO2 and watervapor within 48 hours
        >what is methane
        >correct!

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Now name the two most powerful contributors to global warming

          >What is CO2 and water vapor?

          >CORRECT!

          Chuds are absolutely fucking retarded, they will never learn because information that doesn't confirm their biases legitimately scares them. Thanks for proving my point and making yourself look like a moron. Subhuman intelligence

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            now name the top causes for environmental decline.

            >all of them are habitat loss.

            'global warming' only pushes species that were already on the verge of collapse over the edge, but not a single extinction would be prevented without it because that's not how these species ended up being threatened.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Well they gotta grow those søybeans for vegan goyslop somewhere

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Well they gotta grow those søybeans for cattle feed somewhere
                Ftfy

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                it's not specifically plant agriculture that's causing the declines, it's all agriculture.

                the human population has been artificially inflated with petrochemical fertilizers to over twice the amount of people that the environment can naturally sustain with it's own nitrogen production, most agriculture would not be possible without this, and it'll stop being possible when it runs out within the next decade and we have no alternatives for it.

                CO2 and ocean acidification is more dangerous than the higher temperatures.
                Either way it has to deal with humans pumping out too much CO2 for the planet's resources to deal with. Whether the planet's resources to deal with CO2 are dwindling or the CO2 itself is increasing is just arguing semantics because both are caused by man and both fall under the umbrella term "global warming"

                ocean acidification hasn't caused any extinctions yet, we just know it can.

                most species that are currently in decline, or have gone extinct, went extinct purely due to habitat loss from agriculture.

                most 'climate change' has nothing to do with emissions, it's the result of humans altering an environment, changing the biological make up of a habitat alters it's weather.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              CO2 and ocean acidification is more dangerous than the higher temperatures.
              Either way it has to deal with humans pumping out too much CO2 for the planet's resources to deal with. Whether the planet's resources to deal with CO2 are dwindling or the CO2 itself is increasing is just arguing semantics because both are caused by man and both fall under the umbrella term "global warming"

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                wonder why that didn't happen in the Eocene period

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                because without all of our infrastructure populations naturally recede and expand when the weather changes, plants that can't stand the heat recede to mountainous environments for example, there's still relict species from when the planet was much cooler around as a result, picture related, relict from the tertiary period that was once widespread.

                when we started using massive amounts of lands and building roads everywhere species stopped being able to do this, they can't cross habitat, it needs to be unfragmented for them to do this.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, but the CO2 that's released from that methane isn't from a fossile carbon source and thus doesn't get added to the total.
            Plant grows while sucking CO2 out of the air -> Cow eats plant -> Cow farts -> methane gets into the atmosphere and gets converted into CO2 again -> exact same amount of CO2 gets released back into the air -> repeat.

            It's a zero sum game, there's zero CO2 that gets added to the atmosphere via cow farts, it just circulates.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        everything that processes plant matter releases methane, this isn't unique to cows, most of the global methane production is from swamps, it's not the reason the climate it going to shit, that's due to habitat loss, almost no species have issues withstanding temperature shifts if they're able to expand and recede into suitable micro-habits but they can't because they've all been fragmented with infrastructure or turned into farmland.

        grassland is also a major sequester of carbon.

        without greenhouse emissions, you still wouldn't save the planet because it's not the reason why ecosystems are collapsing, that's pretty much entirely due to human expansion, fertilizer pollution, and any and all forms of industrial agriculture.

        Cows eat mostly grass until the end of their lives where they are fed all the onions byproducts to fatten them up for slaughter. Maybe in America they are fed a diet of microplastics and iPhones but in Europe the former is the case.

        this is correct, cattle largely eats forage from areas unfit for traditional agriculture, very little land is 'wasted' on them that could be used for anything else.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          This might be the most spuedointerrelectual take I have ever read lmao.
          Internet academics are the fucking best

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            nice argument.

            oh wait.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Go away you fucking gay you are like a robot

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        We must exterminate all living beings.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >cow eat grass
      Cows and every animal eat mostly onions + cereal on those highly optimized farms. They give them the bare minimum of fiber so their rumen doesn't shut down

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cows eat mostly grass until the end of their lives where they are fed all the onions byproducts to fatten them up for slaughter. Maybe in America they are fed a diet of microplastics and iPhones but in Europe the former is the case.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They get all kinds of shit even candy in the US but grass doesn’t seem to be a major part of their diet. Even knew a rancher and he said to qualify as grass fed all they had to do was have them graze a little before getting slaughtered or some shit like that. He fed his cows the byproducts from local brewers which he said was really easy on the cows stomachs for some reason

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            what do you think malt, barley and maize is?

            grass.

            their diet is mostly grass.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Uhhh they’re eating the seeds of the grass not the grass itself. Not sure what your point is.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >seed of grass is not grass.

                ok retard.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                so eggs are same as chicken?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                eggs are literally chickens, you are literally eating liquid chicken.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Minus the rooster cum, gay.

                I mix both in my mouth for the real liquid chicken dining experience.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's wrong. European cattle is largely fed cattle feed and that feed is usually corn and soi meal. Grass just isn't nutritious enough for cattle to maintain optimal muscle mass.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If we're going to talk about the impact of fucking flatulence, then we need to exterminate all termites, considering they far out produce methane excretions.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No mention of cruise ships

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The funniest thing about cruises is they are cheaper than rent now. It's like 700 for a week plus food, water, gym, internet. I have half a mind to just live on cruises for a year while remote working with a laptop just to do it. They make all their money on booze. If you just don't drink you can basically just live on them more/as affordably as an apartment+food with the same amenities.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Just remember the internet on cruises are usually horrendous.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Read bro, read.

      >inb4 I don't believe in those particular sources

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, I forgot my cow's stomachs that we all learned in school. The rumen, the reticulum, the TOKAMAK toroidal fusion reactor that turns non-carbon into carbon, and the abomasum.
        There is exactly one thing that currently causes CO2 in the atmosphere to rise and it's taking carbon from underground where it's been permanently sequestered and lighting it on fire.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine pearl clutching over muh green house gasses beyond the mid 90's. Kek. May you choke on david suzuki's dick.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah but cow manure has a very important usage. its not exactly a easy cause effect relationship. also, before our modern cow industries, there were 30-50 million bison that were roaming around in north america.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          This. Not to mention a world swarming with monolithic land mammals in pre history that dwarf cows. The praries alone were home to millions of monsters.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hunt and kill bankers and CEOs. No need to worry about prions or cannibalism as they are not human.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Long as you don't eat their brain like some african moron you'll be fine

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why would getting protein from processed veggies hurt your gains? I shop at a place that buys the stuff big supermarkets can't sell, and it always has this type of shit extremely dirt cheap so I try a fair bit of it. It's mostly fine taste-wise and has loads of protein per dollar. Is it just schizo shit or is there an actual reason I should stop? I eat meat too btw.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      plants have glycoproteins, not proteins. You lack the enzymes to break that completely down into amino acids, retard. Hence, it's not bioavailable. You only get maybe 25% of what's on the label. IDIOT

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Can't tell if you're baiting or actually retarded.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          pure nonsense and broscience

          Alright you fucking little retards, tell me how the saccharides get cleaved off the peptides in the human digestive system
          protip: YOU FUCKING CANT

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Glycoproteins aren't unique to plants bro...
            >plants have glycoproteins, not proteins
            Lmao. What fucking youtube video or whatever did you watch anyway? I'm interested where people get this kind of shit from.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Read a book bro.

              Still can't name the enzyme in the human digestive system that breaks the saccharide off from the peptides in useless plant "protiens"? Maybe because it doesn't exist? Aw, that's a shame. Thanks for playing you fucking brain rotted little vegan retards.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You said that plants "don't have proteins, they have glycoproteins". Let's just stick with that for now.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Read a book bro.

              You said that plants "don't have proteins, they have glycoproteins". Let's just stick with that for now.

              https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6723444/
              >Plant-based proteins are less digestible than animal proteins [50]. This could be due to the different >structure of plant versus animal proteins. The secondary structure of plant proteins is characterized by >a high content in β-sheet conformation and a relatively low α-helix amount compared to that of animal >proteins [64]. The high content in β-sheet conformation is likely related to its resistance to proteolysis in >the gastrointestinal tract.
              >resistance to proteolysis in the gastrointestinal tract.
              >resistance to proteolysis in the gastrointestinal tract.
              >resistance to proteolysis in the gastrointestinal tract.
              >resistance to proteolysis in the gastrointestinal tract.
              >durr that's from a ketolard utub vidya durr hurr
              just fucking rope yourself already

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Whoa why are you talking about amino acid profiles and shit? You were about to show how "plants don't have proteins, they have glycoproteins". Read the first three words of the study you linked lmao.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                to proteolysis in the gastrointestinal tract.
                to proteolysis in the gastrointestinal tract.
                to proteolysis in the gastrointestinal tract.
                to proteolysis in the gastrointestinal tract.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Now look at the meta-analysis 🙂

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                This has literally nothing to do with what you said.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                to proteolysis in the gastrointestinal tract.
                to proteolysis in the gastrointestinal tract.
                to proteolysis in the gastrointestinal tract.
                to proteolysis in the gastrointestinal tract.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm getting a strong feeling that you don't know what a glycoprotein is, or does, or where they are found.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Lol wut

                You just keep linking info that is proving yourself wrong then screaming, "GOTCHA!"

                Imbecile

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Because plant proteins are literally indigestible. Keep counting the misrepresented values on the labels and crying, wondering why you fail to make any gains, you sickly vegan retard

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                moron you are illiterate.
                "Resistance" isn't "immunity". Yes plant proteins are more resistant than animal protein but it's not enough to call them indigestible

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >red meat less digestible than soi
                Read the thing you linked

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >WAHHHH I LOST AND NOW I'M GONNA SCREECH MADE UP SHIT
                typical braindead vegan logic

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Dude... read the table in the paper you linked. What are the values for red meat? What are they values for soi flour or isolate?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >WAHH I CAN'T CITE ANYTHING BECAUSE I JUST MADE IT UP! WAHHH
                wow you have some really advanced plant toxin induced brain damage

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Table 1, PDCAAS of red meat vs soi flour or isolate in the paper you linked.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >WAHHHH I LOST AND NOW I'M GONNA SCREECH MADE UP SHIT
                typical braindead vegan logic

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Try reading what you link instead of constantly crying and sperging out about unrelated information.

                This is why nobody is taking you seriously, it's obvious to everyone BUT YOU that you're some dumbass emotional retard.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Hold on, let's circle back to the "plants don't have protein" argument. I feel like you haven't had a chance to defend that.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Glycoproteins?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Read a book bro.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        pure nonsense and broscience

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I tried searching for this and nothing is coming up.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i will hunt and eat vegans, human meat is suprisingly high in calories, just stay away from nerves and the brain, and organs.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    In my country these fake meat products are in the fridge but now I see that they don't have to necessarily. Maybe they do it to give the illusion that it's natural since it can spoil without cooling just like meat. But ontopic: I'll make gains by eating meat like always. When the covid panic buys were going on meat was gone but these products were not. That tells you all you need to know.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >how are we going to make gains?
    The fatties in the: "what I eat in a day as a fat person" videos eat a lot of these if they're vegan. Sure they also drink sugar coffee with oat milk but I do think these give you gains. Just not the kind you'll want

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't get it. Doesn't processing all this crap for Westoids libcrackers to pretend like it's meat take energy too? At least tofu is just blended up and squished basedbeans and doesn't claim to be meat. Or is it just because cattle poop and fart but comes from the same mouths that espouse anti nuclear and choose to eat plastics processed from hydrocarbons daily and hasn't lived a day away from their electronic device in the last 10 years.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Says the schizo 4chan posting from his phone. KYS

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Literally no argument

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    funny how environmentalists are always launching a crusade against the meat industry yet they're silent when it comes to Mexican villages having their water supplies cut to produce their beloved avocadoes or how Almonds waste almost or even the same amount of water as beefs

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Water is abundant you filthy fucking retard, almonds aren't "wasting" it.

      You politicized chuds happily slurp up all the obvious bullshit you possibly can if it even slightly strokes your fragile egos. Go shoot up a school, just stop spreading your retarded parroted talking points.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You know they're litterally ripping out almond orchards in the central valley because there's no longer any water for it? You know that right? I drive past it all the time. LMFAO retard

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Fascinating, now tell me what that has to do with global warming or CO2 production, or was it just some rightoid talking point bullshit you threw at the wall of conversation and hoped it would stick and nobody would call you out? Dumbass gay, you have no clue how pozzed you are constantly seething about unrelated topics.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          We're at a fairly low CO2 level in terms of recorded history. The alarmists point to a sharp rise in CO2 that hasn't been seen before but our net level is still very low.
          Idiots like yourself who legitimately believe CO2 is a poison to the planet are the dumbest of the dumb.

          Here is another fun one for you - check out global biodiversity vs CO2 levels over the past 100,00 years or so. You'll be surprised to find that it's actually pretty helpful to the general health of the planet even if coasties lose their mcmansions to the sea rising a bit.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Idiots like yourself who legitimately believe CO2 is a poison to the planet are the dumbest of the dumb.
            Who the hell mentioned CO2 at all
            It was just about the water supply
            Not even him btw

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >he doesn't care about the poor Mexican villagerinos
        Whoa why are you so hispanophobic

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I won't eat the Anti Christ Slop™

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Leftoids are total retards. Most of the pollution is caused by the third world, and these countries do not give a shit about their green sperging.
    They can burn Europe to the ground, it will not change a thing

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Most of the pollution is caused by the third world, and these countries do not give a shit about their green sperging.

      guess who pays for the production and then imports it.

      protip: it's the first world, they just relocated their worst industries to the third world so they seem greener on paper.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, and they will not give these industries away. Asia and Africa are also rapidly developing, which means increased consumption, automobilization and etc. Shitlibs literally can't do a thing about Global Warming, yet, they try to crash their local farming and destroy their countries food security.

        Environmental alarmism was originally a right wing idea, but unlike idiotic leftist they understood, that the problem is third world and it's giant population

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          the problem is mainly subsidation, the third would would never have been able to scale up their production without it and their population would've never have exploded as a result.

          anyway that already happened, you can't stop it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >anyway that already happened, you can't stop it
            Sure you can, just not...ethically

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't forget megacorporations. But don't forget to seperate your plastic and shower less, anon!

      The worst part is how self righteous and blind these people are. I have a few friends who are mega enviretards, they really think them buying second hand clothes and expensive vegetables is da wae.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >expensive vegetables is da wae
        Most ironic part is that these are usually imported too

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I need a farm

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Steroids are made from basedbeans so I'm not too concerned

  16. 2 months ago
    SwedishBrorsan

    > factory processed mushrooms
    > factory processed & bleached sneed oil
    > which vegans cook with even more sneed oils
    somehow more climate friendly than a piece of steak cook on butter / tallow

    how did the globalist work this one out ?

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Milk and eggs

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Have the Dutch farmers capitulated yet?

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Amazing how we got to the point where only elite will soon be able to eat meat.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Thoughts?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      perseeseen hyvä laittaa näitä

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >california
      prabably filled with aids and crack pipes

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes and thats why theyre doing it.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's not 'environmental' it's 'climate carbon'. They deliberately shifted this years ago. Beef is literally the solution to the blacksoil problem and monocrop is the problem.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Big garden gnome is poisoning protein shakes too
    >https://www.fda.gov/safety/recalls-market-withdrawals-safety-alerts/lyons-magnus-expands-voluntary-recall-include-additional-nutritional-and-beverage-products-due

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ITT Ketoschizo throws invalid information at the wall hoping it will stick, gets BTFO multiple times, and instead of admitting it he will go on to his next parroted talking point.
    He does this constantly and threads where he goes unchecked and unBTFOd he will try to push as much of this bullshit as possible.
    He knows he's wrong, but he doesn't care. He's trying to manipulate you rather than give you valid information.
    Let this be a lesson to anyone interested in keto.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >That pic
      Wait, isn't peanut butter 25% carbs?
      Or is the joke that the ketofag isn't aware of that ?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > uses skippy for this dumb meme
      Skippy is sugary junk food kek

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dead hookers

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    reminder blackrock is exxon's biggest investor

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hunt Democrats for meat.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw we're going to save the planet by destoying trillions upon trillions of acres of carbon trapping pasture land to plant unnatural nutrient lacking monocrops then spray them with poisons that will eventually run into the water supply in order to own capitalism and do a wholesome science

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not worried at all for the push to be plant-based, because I know for a fact 20 years from now there will be a body of scholarship debunking its benefits outright.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >because I know for a fact 20 years from now there will be a body of scholarship debunking its benefits outright.
        It'll be a cassandra truth. Something that, even if the knowledge and data is publicly out there, none of the powers that be will talk about it or admit to it, and they'll just keep toeing the line they have for decades. No different than how, over half a century later, we're still being told that dietary fat/cholesterol are bad and that we should be consuming more processed goyfeed instead. Because it's simply in the corporate interest to get more people to consume cheap inexpensive nonperishable goyslop over consuming real food.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Eat the bugs.
    Eat vegan.
    Live in the community cage.
    Own nothing.
    Be happy.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Volunteer at food banks and bring home expired animal products.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kill the vegans.

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    > cows bad
    > cows eat all grass
    > eat plant meat
    > made from all grass

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >10 calories of plant matter to produce 1 calorie of animal matter

      Why are people so fucking stupid?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        we can't digest most of the stuff that cows eat

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Cows are fed corn and other grains in 97% of US farm and in most of the world really.
          Sorry to shatter your wholesome farm fantasy.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You know the corn they use for animal feed isn't the same shit in the supermarket right?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              You know that both corns grow in the same soil and that same soil can be used to grow almost any other plant food, right?
              Each cow eats about 60 pounds of wet matter each day, I let you calculate how much food all the cows eat and how many square miles are needed for that.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you can grow corn without the stalks and wheat without the straw I'm sure there's an assload of money waiting for you.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            look at the quantity of their fred that is grains and other crops, the vast majority of the feed in conventional beef production is forage
            not to mention what they feef livestock isn't what is sold to humans but the leftovers of crops grown for humans that animals like cows can eat and digest without blowing their guts up.
            when you buy wheat flour or bread you're eating a tiny portion of actual wheat, you're eating a portion of the wheat grain which is in itself a tiny fraction of the whole plant, what do you think they do with the leftovers? they feed it all to animals as to avoid waste, not human grade wheat/soi flour lmfao.

            the agricultural sector in first world countries is as efficient as it can get without causing severe food shortages and rampant nutritional deficiencies in their populations.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              this kills the vegantard

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              this kills the vegantard

              >b-but all corn lives matter!

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          eat fucking grass then gay kek

          Or grow something that people can eat? Most farmland in this country is for cow feed. What’s it like having an IQ below 90

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why don't you tell us?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        eat fucking grass then gay kek

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    if their logic is that meat is bad because the herbivores we eat produce methane farts from digesting plant matter, then couldn't you use the exact same logic to arghue that we should exterminate all ruminants, including cows, horses, deer, moose, goats, sheep, and buffaloes? Since their mere existence is damaging the environment, after all.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      we breed cows and sheep into existence moron

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Climate change isn't real.
    Just push the narrative as hard and unforgivingly as you possibly can.
    Screw their satanic söyence. Stop playing their game.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    isn't proper livestock management one of the best ways to reverse desertification?

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tesla is a better climate investment
    But city slickers will never be hue man anyways and this shit only affects them

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      lithium batteries arent a long term solution, its a bridge like anything else. ride the lithium mine development train while it lasts. perfect environment for it. still a huge amount of road blocks. Politicians are retarded and want local supply but wont remove red tape to build mines, and the tax credits incentivize locally manufactured batteries, but the infrastructure doesnt exist and tax credits arent investments - especially for companies that are already running at a loss(mine developers, etc)

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i dunno bros seems like a lot of things would be sustainable if we just had 1/4 the current population and made an attempt to keep it that way. i dunno how both commies and israelservatives value human life so muhc considering population increase has been exponential since the industrial revolution. you're encouraged to pop out kids so they can be cheap labour and consumers. human life is cheap

    no amount of plant based meat will address the reality that agriculture in general is horrible and fertilizer destroys fresh water ways

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >you're encouraged to pop out kids so they can be cheap labour and consumers. human life is cheap
      >don't have kids let the third worlders do that we don't want more consumers.
      fuck off garden gnome

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >due to the impact of corrupt super investor's influences
    Ftfy

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It won't, it just doesn't taste good.
    If corporations really are only after money, seems Foster Farms and Tyson would make a killing off of selling plant based meat at twice the price of meat.

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you fell for the animal torture and murder lobby's meme that you can only build muscle from animal protein. all while the biggest and strongest animals are plant based.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      God says I can eat meat for all things created by God are clean.
      I listen to God. End of discussion.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      “This guy” is also on copious amounts of steroids, will the government also gib me free vials of test?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >who do you want to listen to?
      The one that is not obviously a liar.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Of course it's another picture comparing two people who have nothing in common with at least 30 years age difference.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      why is IST from all places filled with the "but muh animal murder" crowd? you would think that the site infested with pedophiles, incels, ketolards, 4chantards, discord trannies wouldn't give a rats ass about animals being killed for food.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This website has been consistently pummelled by hyper autistic progressives since the dumbass 2016 elections at minimum.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This website has been consistently pummelled by hyper autistic progressives since the dumbass 2016 elections at minimum.

        NEDM

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >has never eaten meat
      Are you sure about that?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why do you make this thread and post the same images 24/7. You can't be paid much, if anything at all.

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why don't you try yourself by going vegan for a while and see how it will affect your gains? Gains go down, stop, gains continue to go up, stop making these dumb threads. I bet you're a fucking dyel trollshit anyways.

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >stocking more land with crop rotation destroying, soil destroying, incomplete proteins is better than eating farm animals that take less space and renew the soil
    I hate garden gnomez

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the best climate investment

    Has always been population control - stop encouraging population growth whilst forcing everyone to lower their living standards to accommodate everyone else whilst an 'elite' class laughs from above.

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >fails to convince consoomers
    Guess BYND is going to need 30 billion stimmies so they can stop inflation

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Since no one actually buys their product, as evidenced by all the food shortages where the fake meat shit remained untouched, how much have they spent in total to keep their product on store shelves?

  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I would unironically eat insect products since they have lots of good nutrients and bioavailable protein.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It varies wildly by insect. The best are about as good as ꜱoy, most are a fair bit worse than that, and some are worse than gluten.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        But why though? Weren't our ancestors adapted to eating insects for hundreds of millions of years?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Our digestive systems have shrunk considerably since out monke days and not everything is eaten to obtain protein.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah that's a rabbit hole. It's theorized that early hominids with literally half our brain size subsisted on grubs and shit. Then they scavanged an ate carion. Brains became a little bigger. Then hunted meat, bigger brains. Then cooked with fire. Even bigger brains

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Lots of humans and cities during the eocene period you absolute cretinous mongoloid

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Does that somehow not make it not the ideal climate for human habitation?
      >balmy 80 deg in summer, maybe 60 degrees min in winter
      >absolutely frozen solid and uninhabitable year round
      pick one

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Was being sarcastic bro. Most marine life will be gibbed by carbon cycle in oceans. People like you really don’t understand that earth’s ecosystems have a pretty delicate balance and historically climate change is pretty slow, which gives organisms time to evolve (think 1.2 degrees over millions of years).

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You can't seriously be crying over polar bears! Or penguins. Fuck them. Literally every other animal will prefer a warmer climate. And adaptability of populations of animals happens way faster than you think. And besides, a "warmer climate" doesn't mean some inhospitably hot bullshit like the propaganda you've been exposed to. I mostly just means the disappearance of winter and the homogonization of climates. Again, check out the Eocene period.

  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    dont care
    not eating the slave food
    go fuck yourself moron

  49. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    take the cannibal pill. kill and eat garden gnomes and their golems

  50. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    some women who looks like this is asking why you aren't vegan

  51. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hope climate change is real. I hope the air grows thin and the seas rise and boil, that the sun makes the outside uninhabitable.
    I hope it's all real and I hope it all happens soon so I can watch these rich wannabe puppetmaster cocksuckers burn and boil with the rest of us. All these cunts buying up farmland, trying to put the working man in pods and feed us bugs while they jet around in private planes eating filet. I hope the whole fucking world dies just so I can watch those fucks go down with the ship, so I can watch them realize that their big dreams of being HNIC of spaceship earth go up in a miasma of carbon and smoke and cancer. So I can watch them realize how little their precious money truly matters when they're about to succumb and face eternal judgment for the sin of their grand designs.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't hold your breath. We have been on the brink of climate devestation according to "science" idealogue inc. since the 70's. We were supposed to be underwater by 2010, frozen to death in a great ice age by the mid 80's, boiling in tumours from no ozone layer in the 90's. Acid rain was going to end life as we know it in the 80's. All the while punishing the cleanest countries in to less and less freedoms while ignoring completely the most pollutant places. To truly believe it has anything to do with some cumbersome idea of the "climate" is to willfully be fearful to the point of being the antithesis of the human spirit. There is no other reason. People posting silly pie charts and linking to idealogue "science" blogs will never change that and their irrelevance is not up for argument.

  52. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How come every vegan bodybuilder is accused of being on gear? There’s so many huge vegan influencers who are natty, but obese ham addicts seething with jealousy always downplay their success.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How come vegans are so miserably wither brained they can't accept the reality of wide spread gear usage?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      moron I'm a bretharian bodybuilder and I totally mog that vegan nazi who tortures and destroys innocent plant life. Fuck him an fuck you both of you should burn in hell

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because they are on gear my friend. Nearly all fitness influencers are on gear regardless of whether or not they eat meat.
      But believe what you want to believe. You can get big like your favorite marvel superhero on a diet of celery and beet juice alone. Prove us all wrong.

  53. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    don't you lefties realize pic related is the guy pushing this shit? what they plan to do is stick the whole world's population into as tiny a space as possible.
    we're all going to be poor as shit and he hopes you'll be happy to eat the bugs and science experiments by then so you don't lynch him because you're too fucking poor to afford a burger, whether you eat them or not.

  54. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >plant-based
    >meat
    Is anyone working on meat-based plants?

  55. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Here's your plant based meat, buddy

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >here's why johnny can't make gains

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The author of that the tweet that relayed that info said himself that hé was wrong.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/Niy0sXi.png

      >here's why johnny can't make gains

      Goyslop

  56. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fuck the meat climate people. What a surprise... They're vegetarians/vegans! What a fucking coincidence! Holy shit, their agenda just happens to line up! Give me a fucking break.

    Exhibit A for coopting Climate Change to suit an agenda. If these people loved the Earth so much, they'd take a fucking bus, instead of driving everywhere. But we know that won't happen.

  57. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I always act like I'm going to buy the vegan meat in the freezer section then place it in another lesser trafficked area so hopefully it spoils. I encourage you to do the same. Poke holes in the packages so the store has to throw it out.

  58. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cool, now make the chinks and the poos eat it

  59. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Blaming the climate on meat is absolutely ridiculous, when energy production and transport is 80% of the pollution.

    Its just a way for corporations to blame the people, isntead of themselves

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