pic related is more than enough for them
only gay homosexual gays care about big muscles and "aesthetics"
women don't give a shit about "aesthetics"
pic related is more than enough for them
only gay homosexual gays care about big muscles and "aesthetics"
FACE FACE FACE FACE FACE FACE FACE FACE FACE FACE FACE FACE FACE FACE FACE FACE FACE FACE FACE FACE FACE
he doesn't have the face, he just has a nice pack of LEAN abs
His face on the right pic is model tier, but keep coping
this and IST incels that claim they have constant sex or some shit are nothing but coping, projecting liars
the boys a liarrrr
yeah no shit its mostly face and height and then overall structure. Its not le black pilled to think a woman would chose an untrained man with a very good base physique than some genetic dead end with trash inserts and fat deposition, its just biology. But most people enjoy lifting for themselves. Ottermode is peak attraction to women anyway and that does require a little bit of work but its completely achievable and doesn't need too much maintenance and with that physique you can persue other fitness goals like running, calisthenics, swimming, climbing to build overall ubermensh health
I think it’s childish how women objectify men and have set standards for them to be certain heights. I however being a man above 6ft who also is unfathomably attractive with chiseled godlike features do not have this issue.
based, societies kinda weird at the moment, would never have this excess of dregs, most of the time war and famine or whatever would sort that out but now were in a timeline where there is no threat and things are just going a bit weird. I wonder what the future will hold.
>Being handsome means you've survived war and famine in the past ouga ouga yaaaaas
Fuckin troglodyte retard opinion
Your ancestry should’ve been wiped out centuries ago but alas the apple didn't fall far from the ugly tree
Are we going to be debating who's the prettier one like a couple of stacies?
Shut the fuck up LULZ moron goyim slave, I literally dress like a Tom of Finland character because I love the look.
Ok cool, I don't care how other people perceive me. I work out for me. I know that's a foreign concept for someone with no self worth like OP
It’s giving gay. You must lift for men, queer boy.
>Surely shaming an anonymous user will work this time.
Women avoid things that might hurt their egos. Being rejected hurts a female more than anything else, they know they'd never have a chance so they pretend it's not their preference. If an aesthetic man even talked to them they'd cum themselves though. That's why only Stacies end up with aesthetic men, it's because women know not to try and shoot for guys out of their league. Idk how anyone doesn't get it, women are super easy to understand. So see-through they are transparent.
>coping this hard
there is no such thing as "too good looking"
do you think henry cavill gets rejected for being "too handsome?
I'm not talking about me, I'm attractive as fuck. Women flex at me in public and flash me. They make the first move.
And I'm not even on the market I have a drop dead gorgeous fiance
if the innate desire in a relationship is security, the man being the more attractive person of the two doesn’t offer that. women lose the advantage which is their looks
My drunk called me one time saying
>who the hell do you think you are
>no man has ever stopped talking to me cold turkey
that really hurt her ego
You contradicted yourself
It is all about aesthetics women do care about
Just that beyond a certain point which is the point when people start hoping on cycles is when women can sense the insecurity and mental illness
>tall
>visible abs
>well developed chest
>'women don't give a shit about "aesthetics"'
Lol bunch of copers. Being fit is a multiplier. Solely being fit will put you in doors that would normally be closed being skinny or fat. Most of these gays claiming looks don't matter think looks will carry them through the whole interaction. Doesn't matter how fit you are if you're insecure as fuck and women can feel it on you. Not mention every single post claiming muscles don't matter has a famous man in it. Status clears all, that's why they're attracted to them.
How long does it take to achieve this physique as a beginner?
I'm starting at 22% bf
A while since you're fat
Best I can give you is 5 months