>women prefer 1-year-of-lifting ottermodes to actually jacked guys, only men like those
is there a bigger skinnygay cope? you know it's not true
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>women prefer 1-year-of-lifting ottermodes to actually jacked guys, only men like those
is there a bigger skinnygay cope? you know it's not true
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It’s true, IST has been saying this for nearly two decades and it’s even in the sticky
>trusting what woman say
>caring what women think
>b-but I don't care what women think!
if you truly didn't care than you wouldn't feel any need to post in this thread.
Weak bait, weak sperm
i think most gays are the ones who say this. which makes sense because they like twinks
OP doesn't look like either, so what difference does it make to you?
>OP is picrel
I lift for my twink bf so uhhh... Idk what to tell you
Women will date literal murderers, why should i care what they find attractive
No women will ever lift for you, remember that
>No women will ever lift for you, remember that
cope lmao
met my gf at the gym and since we started dating she went to the gym even more
big muscles are like big breasts for men
yeah some guys are like "hurr i love flat flat is justice" but most guys like big breasts and oogle them and its the same for women and big muscles.
>women prefer 1-year-of-lifting ottermodes to actually jacked guys, only men like those
lol no, science and irl says otherwise unless you're piano sized.
this
when a moron is acting moronic, you slap him. clearly you need more beatings.
99% of women prefer Brad Pitt's body in Troy to his Fight Club one. Lot of men don't know that what women say they like and what they actually like are two different things.
Serious question: Am I supposed to care what women think? Why is it so prevalent? I dont remember my dad or grandfather caring about this shit, why is my generation and younger generations so obsessed with what women think?
I just dont understand. If you guys were around women enough you would realize they're basically like permanent teenagers with child-like mindsets, some of them can LARP as a men and temporarily to try put on some kind of act but when they're being themselves and not LARPing as men, they're basically mentally stunted teenagers. I assume females hormones has something to do with why women are like this.
That said, again, why do you guys all care? Why do you put so much power into what women say or think? It just makes no sense to me. Its like getting angry at a child or dog.
I dont get it.
You dont have to care but the thread is about what women like and they like ottermode. No one is requiring you to care though
I should also mention 1 more thing:
You guys hate prostitutes, etc women being super sexual etc, why do you get mad at them for that?
Its like getting mad at a child for doing something wrong, or a dog for shitting in your house.
Up until recently, women were told what to do and controlled by the men in the family, that kept them in order, stopping them from doing dumb shit, now that is no longer the case, so women are free to do all the dumb shit they normally would do without the men in the family holding them back and teaching them and telling them how to act. So naturally when there's no men in the picture to control them, they will do dumb shit
Sort of like if you leave your dog to do whatever, it will start shitting wherever it wants, ripping up whatever it wants, etc. But do you blame the dog? No, the fault is yours for not teaching the dog its boundaries.
*tips fedora*
You are so wise good sir
Serious question: why write all that shit if you don’t care? You write like a coping fat moron
Left is literally all you need to get womyn. Anything beyond that is body dismorphia and homosexuality.
Body on the right is the same as the body on the left but with +4% bf
You mean right. If a woman says she prefers left it's because she thinks right is too good for her.
I’m a woman and i cant tell the difference between any of them. It’s like when guys tell you they are 6.5 inches, like i cant tell the difference between 6 and 7 there is no need to add the.5
You will never be a woman
why are you here
>t. lard ass powershitter
i cant belive people think this. So many women loves muscles. Just dont look like a stereotypical fitness guy
>caring what women claim to think or like
Lift for yourself, women are children and their opinions are worthless.
It’s not even “1 year of lifting”, it’s high level of fitness with core work, lean body fat, and built chest, shoulders, and arms.
Pitt has a small army of fitness professionals helping him. Pittmaxxing is much harder than “1 year of lifting”, it’s a lifestyle
The ultimate redpill is that it you're not meeting any women shirtless. You need to look like you lift in a t-shirt.
*casually lifts shirt to show abs*
that's moronic
Why are you so ashamed of your body
>not wearing a crop top year round
>t. doesn’t go to beach, pool, run/mow shirtless
You don't get a girlfriend by running around shirtless or going around pools lmao. Beach, yeah I guess, but most people don't have a beach near them. Not sure how you'd socialize with new women there.
All my gf I've met in school or work, and most people are the same.
>he doesn't work shirtless
ottermode only works if you have an amazing frame to go with it, it will not look good if you're an average man with an average shoulder width and average stumpy arms, with an average torso, sadly.
Those men dont look good no matter what they do. The world will be better off if they dont breed but instead are stepdads
>you can’t be average
>posts roiding black guy
You don’t even know what average is, kek. Otter mode is literally lean muscle with built chest and core
>roiding black guy
post body if you think you need roids for that.
Not him but one of you morons saying this shit needs to post body. Literally not a single one of you ‘if you think you needs roids for that’ morons has ever posted body.
will post body if he posts his.
dont think u really need roids for that unless dude gets paid for it. at worst could be doing clen or just coke
>go on two dates with girl
>5/10 but decent ass
>end up making out with her
>realize we are not a match at all and i can do better
>cut things off
>fast forward a year
>still havent fugged and just been lonely lifting
>girl has a bf now
>still floating around me a lot and flirts with me
>asks me to grab food together and we do
>pretty sure i missed opportunity to fug her that day
>still struggles to hold eye contact with me and spills spaghetti
do i do it bros, i really could use some sex
No way. Don’t debase yourself by betraying a fellow king for the sake of a an ugly girl’s butt cheeks. That’s weak af.
Fellow men are enemies, competitors.
you haven't even met him
but if she’s willing to cheat she would do it with someone else too. i don’t have much empathy for men i don’t know anyway but i know it would suck if it was me (though i would be glad)
go for it, all women are prostitutes, bf or no bf, the sooner you learn this the better, pump and dump like a cheap shitcoin
Yeah that’s the key, do exactly what blacks do and have baby mommas, dumb fk
if I had the choice between getting a true friend or a girlfriend I would pick the first every time.
least gay man on IST
this
next thing you know she;s made out with 6 chicks and fricked 3 guys
You compared the newest Samsung to the oldest iPhone.
How about a real comparison: a true friend or perfect wife?
>perfect wife
doesn't exist. the qualities of the guy are key in a good realtionship, the girl just has to not be mentally ill.
Implying that’s possible
its the face. Almost every woman ive come across says the same shit about if your face is busted there is legit nothing you can do with your body to help it, and it shows in who they frick/date. Having a good body (which is literally not to the extreme this board thinks it is) only helps iif you have a good face. Me and one group of my friends would be considered dyel by this boards standards and we get ass pretty consistently. Social skills are important as hell too.
having an ugly face is already considered a handicap but if you have no social skills most women pretty much consider you disabled. I’m starting to wonder why I even come here anymore because i started here moronic as frick 8 years ago, and once i started actually going out and talking to people, i realized 95% of you truly don’t leave your house
>having an ugly face is already considered a handicap but if you have no social skills most women pretty much consider you disabled
Learned this the hard way. There really is no cope for an ugly face. Its over bros
Leanness is the #1 factor for physique
A strongfat dude looks like shit, no matter how strong he gets
Meanwhile for muscles there is an inflection point where getting more muscular destroys your flow and aesthetics
I don’t think it’s even possible to go “over the aesthetic limit” as a natty. Natties only have to worry about proportions and staying reasonably lean
Going overboard on squats and trap work will make you look silly as a natty.
Natty limit for legs and traps is way too big relative to the natty limit for stuff like arms and shoulders
I like men lel
how could I become one of the emperor's angels of death without being frickin hugemaxxed
Ottermode is best for people while good facial aesthetics and it is what women prefer, but if you're ugly or below average you'll do better as a hulking ogre than a slimfit butterface. So yes lifting and blasting tren is a cope for being ugly but it's an effective cope because women like sensitive monsters too, even if they prefer edgy pretty boys.
Within the past two years I have been lean and I’m now juicy. More muscular but also a little fat. Both forms I’ve been the same handsome man I’ve always been. I get 5X mires in juicy form. Anecdotal but I’m married so I’m not even out there fishing for mires when they happen.
In the balkans a lot of grills prefer bearmode, infact the most successful men with money and b***hes all have big bellies and yuge arms (most of the m are blatant criminals)
1 year of lifting is still more lifting than you've ever done.
I've always been quite skinny, so I'm naturally /otter/mode - 99.9% of my compliments, which I receive on a near daily basis, come from men. Quite possibly gay men.
Maybe one day I'll decide to GET BIG 4 teh ladies and fish some mires, but honestly, I don't really care. I'm only IST because I'm bored and pushups are free. Also rollan.
Can you even get 'actually jacked' natty? I don't think there's such thing as getting 'too big' natty if you're not a lardass powershitter.