wtf is his problem

Calling out Natural Hypertrophy
>He is going to Planet Fitness exclusively now
>He is running
>Eating vegan
Probably become trans next
He is a mad man
Should be institutionalized
Is this the fate of all powershitters?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Apart from the vegan shit I don't see a problem with that. Planet Fitness is pretty ok if you don't use it like its average customer does and doing cardio like running next up resistive exercise is also a decent idea.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      From experience at Planet Fitness, what keeps me from going back isn't the quality of the gym itself but rather the quality of their average customer.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm trapped at one because it's the only game in town and no space for home gym. I have three major problems with planet fitness:

        1. The dumbbells only go up to 75lbs which as it happens is my current 10 rep military press number. 45s through 75s are sufficient for a lot of other exercises I do, but if I want to go up in weight I have to do seated OHP on a smith machine because...

        2. They only fricking have smith machines and no barbell racks, no squat racks, nothing. I hate it. It's the absolute worst thing about the gym overall, the total lack of free weights outside of dumbbells.

        3. The smith machines they DO have, they only have three of. The dumbbell area has about 4 or 5 adjustable benches. That's it. Half the fricking gym is cardio machines which I've never seen even being 50% utilized, but I go there even at 10 PM and there are huge crowds of people clogging up the dumbbells and smith machines, it's absolutely fricking ridiculous. They need more weights.

        The people are a weird thing. For a long time I'd see a lot of the same people on my routine nights. Now it's down to fewer and fewer people and more and more people I don't recognize and I've never ever seen before. They come and go, it seems to fluctuate around certain things (not just New Year's resolutioners). I don't care if new people or regulars are at a gym or anything, I don't care if they're doing meme exercises with moronic form but a lot of these new strangers have ABSOLUTELY ZERO ETIQUETTE. Like last week one of the scarce smith machines which my brother and I wanted to use for incline press because we need to put like 230 on it and 75lb dumbbells won't do the trick, was being camped on by a pack of 3 bawdy looking girls. They did some meme exercise for 30 seconds, then sat down gossiping and looking at their phones for a solid 10 minutes between sets. Then they moved on to squats, then to pelvic thrusts, on and on and on 1 hour they took. A whole fricking hour.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know what costumer service is like at PT but could you not ask about getting more free weights and also asking staff to be more on top of campers? If it's just you maybe they'll ignore it but it can't be that hard to get a decent number of dedicated gym goers to all speak up about it, right? You are paying for the service, not just the weights, after all.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I can’t believe it’s the only gym in town. Buddy, please take the bus to the next town. Won’t hurt.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Apart from the vegan shit I don't see a problem with that.
      What's wrong with being vegan (so long as you're not the preachy, caricature of a vegan)? Clarence Kennedy is a vegan, so you can be strong without eating animal products.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >clarence kennedy
        this is how he looks off cycle

        ?t=126

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, he hasn't been lifting much and has been trying to lose weight (he's still strong there though). Honestly, I'm not even sure if he's off cycle there.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Everyone on youtube is roiding, that isn't a good argument. Guess what??? Some people that eat meat, also roid! I know it's shocking

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >stop eating
          >stop exercising
          >why i deflate
          he's literally bounced back to his old strength and size within a month, homosexual

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          1 month later

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Any athlete that goes vegan tends to fall off or get injured. Veganism is not compatible with optimal performance. Grow up and eat animal products of just be a weaker human being. Simple as.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Do you have any data to back this up, or is it purely anecdotal? I'm not saying you're wrong, but I haven't seen the evidence.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Humans need nutrients that come from animal products. Plant based supplement alternatives don't cut it and it's why the vast majority of vegans end up quitting the fad diet. No I will not provide any data because it is known.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >No I will not provide any data because it is known.
              kek yeah, that's about what I figured you'd come back with. You're a deep thinker, anon; very well-reasoned.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Humans need animal protein

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Either a bad troll or a genuine 70 IQ poster

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I take it that your vegan diet has damaged your brain. Brain fog is a common symptom that vegans suffer from.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                vegans got mindbroken so hard they need you to provide data for common sense

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                If it's so common then you would think it would be easy to provide evidence.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >he doesn't know about principia mathematica

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                sounds white supremist-y

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's not that simple, and obviously you don't understand it. You'd need to know more about how food works for it to an obvious fact, it SHOULD be common sense. It's probably not worth trying to argue with you anyway, being able to stick to veganism against all common sense shows nobody can convince you. Just know that if your teeth start rotting, your digestion sucks, get exczema/acne, brainfog or if you (become) a weak homosexual in general it's probably from the veganism

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                and animal fat

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            do you need evidence? animals are rewarded with superior nutrition for killing. this is why weak animals eat leaves and strong ones eat meat+

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Except Rabbits which have strong af legs and huge need to breed and they hop everywhere...

              Ever heard of the quip "fricking like rabbits?"

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                i'd like to see a rabbit beat a lion

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Lion wouldn't be able to catch a Rabbit and neither would the want to really, too little to gain from catching a Rabbit, thus they get away, beating the lion.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Lion wouldn't be able to catch a Rabbit
                lions are faster though, so why would they not be able to catch them?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'd like to see a lion beat an elephant, rhino, gorilla, etc etc

                Dumb fricking argument because humans aren't any of the above, or lions either. We're lanky dyel hairless chimps

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                what moron? he said rabbits were strong, when they get btfo by any animal especially a lion, no one mentioned humans

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                They need a lot of offspring because like 70% get eaten before they can reproduce

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              What are hippos, gorillas, pandas, rhinos

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Monkeys are cannibals anon, have you not watched Joe Rogan oh also, have you heard of DMT?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Unfortunately, you need supplements to not become one of those "fat, yet malnourished"
        Every single one of those "but he is vegan and jacked!" youtube guys is on PEDs. Otherwise they look like that MovementbyDavid youtube channel, complete DYEL

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, the vegan and jacked guys on YouTube are all on gear, so are the non-vegan and jacked guys on YouTube.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm sensing a pattern here

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          what about v3gan gains. You're gonna tell me he's not natty?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nah but he fricks fatties

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Open steroid user.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          So? Do you really think Clarence Kennedy isn't strong, even for a guy who openly uses steroids? His 410kg total is incredible, and he was somewhere around 100kg when he did it.

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Where did he say exclusively? Dumbass he owns a fricking gym. He also isn't vegan he just made a video showing how you can get your macros in a healthy way on a vegan diet.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    NH-pilled Alan is the best timeline.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      What did he call him out on? I haven't watched YT fitness stuff in a while

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think op is an esl because it was more of a shoutout than a callout

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        OP is trying to say that NH needs to be called out for corrupting Alan or some shit. Alan didn't call him out at all; he said he's been watching NH a lot lately and it's inspired him to dedicate the rest of the year to hypertrophy. Also gave a shoutout to Hersovyac.

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Record yourself maxing all the machines and dumbbells at Planet Fitness. Do you know how many fat, unathletic boomers go to these le epic strongman gyms? The type of gym you go to doesn't matter, weight is weight.

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's just content

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are you moronic?
    He said he was watching NH, and set out to show how you can get gainz even while vegan at a shitty discount gym

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The whole video was to show that you don't have to work out at an exclusive powerlifting gym to get a decent workout, and when did Alan ever declare he was going vegan aside from making one video experimenting with the concept of not eating meat for one (1) day?

    >didn't watch the video
    >made a moronic post on IST

    Free advertising for the Train On Time man though so I guess every cloud has a silver lining, Alan is cool in my book.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    its fricking incredible how distorted this op's view of things are. Like mental illness tier

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You need to expose yourself to the real world a bit more. If you really care about training, you should have the capacity to go to whatever gym you have available and do whatever you can with what you have available. He said he's focusing on hypertrophy, so he won't need as much weights or specific equipment as he usually utilizes, Planet Fitness might be shitty and might not have the most gym savvy crowd, but you're there to get workout, not to discuss training philosophy with randoms.

    Being vegan is fine, I wouldn't do it, but there's nothing wrong with it, let people experiment with their diets, training, lives. He will decide if it works for him or not.

    The only thing I have to ask is: What's NH's appeal? He has never said anything that haven't been said 100s of times before by 100s of people with different backgrounds and areas of expertise. That also goes for his pseudo-philosophy rants, it's just generic "hypersexualised society bad" which, sure, but I have been hearing the same rant since I was a teen, minus the pretentious Nietzsche misinterpretations

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The only thing I have to ask is: What's NH's appeal? He has never said anything that haven't been said 100s of times before by 100s of people with different backgrounds and areas of expertise. That also goes for his pseudo-philosophy rants, it's just generic "hypersexualised society bad" which, sure, but I have been hearing the same rant since I was a teen, minus the pretentious Nietzsche misinterpretations
      I don't know what exactly is so derivitive about him according to you, but NH has been absolutely instrumental in reviving natural bodybuilding, especially on YouTube. Before him there were some lifters that were natty, but the difference with NH isn't just that he's natty, it's that he's natty and he relishes in it, he takes pride in it, because he truly believes it is the right to do. Beyond that he just generally gives good advice. Maybe that advice has been said before, but who cares? He concentrates it to one channel.

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Planet Fitness is lowkey goated with the sauce if you know what you are doing and go at the right time
    Made all my gains there
    Glad that people shit on it, more room for me

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    seeing him train in planet fitness made him seem less like an experienced elite level strength athlete and instead more of a run-of-the-mill gymbro

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >eats vegan for a day
    >eats pretend meat
    >eats pretend hamburger
    >eats pretend ice cream
    Am I the only person who finds this ridiculous? Why do vegans try so hard to imitate non-vegan foods? How can you say veganism is good and then try your hardest to imitate a diet full of meat and cream and other animal products? What an utterly bizarre way of living.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >3600 calories
      >for 125g of protein

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's almost like they want the taste and familiarity of meat without the animal abuse. I don't see how you could be so dense to not understand that.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >they want the taste and familiarity of meat without the animal abuse
        You can eat animals without abusing them. Do you think eating an animal is abuse? Morally putting yourself above the reality of life that is the food chain is hubris.
        >industrial farming bad
        Not all meat comes from factories, obviously.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >You can eat animals without abusing them. Do you think eating an animal is abuse?
          In what world is taking the life of something that doesn't want to die not a form of abuse?
          >Morally putting yourself above the reality of life that is the food chain is hubris.
          Who fricking cares.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            stay in school kids

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >In what world is taking the life of something that doesn't want to die not a form of abuse?
            In the world we live in. But you don't actually care what the world we live in is like because you live in a fabricated reality where nothing has to ever die for your benefit, as you said yourself:
            >Who fricking cares.

            Wait till you find out what monocrop agriculture (the thing you depend on) does to entire ecosystems and how many thousands of animals die or are displaced every year for your vegan food.

            Take a guess at how many bees die every year for the production of almond milk. What a delusional idiot.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >In the world we live in. But you don't actually care what the world we live in is like because you live in a fabricated reality where nothing has to ever die for your benefit

              God forbid we try to lower suffering.

              >Wait till you find out what monocrop agriculture (the thing you depend on) does to entire ecosystems and how many thousands of animals die or are displaced every year for your vegan food.
              moron. Livestock eat more than double the plants humans do.
              >Take a guess at how many bees die every year for the production of almond milk. What a delusional idiot.
              DIdn't know that drinking almond milk was a requirement for vegans.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                What point are you even trying to make? People eat beef in Brazil therefore it's ok for you to support monocrop agriculture that rapes US soil and destroys ecosystems?
                >cows eat more plants than humans
                Uh yeah because cows are herbivores and we aren't LOL
                >pretending almonds aren't important foods for vegans
                idk why you are even replying at this point.

                This dude thinks smaller animals suffer less than big animals, therefore it's ok to kill thousands of bees and mice and birds instead of eating 1 cow over the course of an entire year. What a moron.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                My point is the majority of crops grown are fed to livestock. If you stop eating meat, we will need to grow less food to feed the livestock. Which will result in less crop deaths.
                almonds aren't important foods for vegans
                What makes them important? I have not bought almond milk in years.

                Veganism increases suffering, though. Being a vegan makes you depressed and anxious because of the lack of vitamins, especially B12. The extreme pesticide load probably doesn't help either.

                https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10408398.2021.1974336?_kx=m5L24Zq1U2xHVe5dyJ7t775cIGSh4sjfK1f91tfxH_o%3D.WY2S6U
                >Meat consumption was associated with lower depression and lower anxiety compared to meat abstention.
                >Compared to vegans, meat consumers experienced both lower depression and anxiety.
                >The analysis also showed that the more rigorous the study, the more positive and consistent the relation between meat consumption and better mental health.
                >Our results show that meat abstention is clearly associated with poorer mental health, specifically higher levels of both depression and anxiety.

                Just about every "vegan" food (plant milks and fake meats) have B12 added to it. It is very easy to get b12 on a vegan diet.

                tell me why i should suffer from malnutrition for years so that a cow doesn't feel pain for 4 seconds

                Then don't be malnourished. Pic related.

                pretty weird to try to replicate a result of something you see as equivelant to cannabalism, imagine if i made a fake human out of pork while insisting eating humans is bad

                Who cares if someone does that as long as nobody is killed.

                humans evolved eating animals and thinking that we can somehow engineer our own "optimal" diet is pure naivety. nutritional science is based on unreliable methods and we still know little about our bodies. if you still want to risk your health for the sake of """optimizing""" your health or """saving""" the planet then go for it but leave the well-adjusted and non-self-loathing people alone

                There is tons of evidence supporting plant based diets. Pretty sure OP was attacking Alan Thrall for veganism, not the other way around.

                >I am craving chocolate/booze/cocaine cake right now.
                What? Did you even read any of the greentext? The study is saying "vegans crave meat as much as non-vegans, despite them saying they don't like meat at all." That has nothing to do with doing cocaine or alcoholism.

                Is English your second language or something? The point is that humans are hard-wired to eat animal-based foods.

                Craving something =/= your body needs it.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >don't be malnourished
                my bad, instead of eating real food i'll just take 500 supplements

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Whats the difference between drinking fortified plant milk for b12 and regular milk for b12?

                https://i.imgur.com/9Pp3Bvr.png

                You know this makes your chronometer meaningless, right?

                Your diet could consist of white sugar, psyllium husk, protein powder and oil as long as it has this and you would be deluded into thinking you had a great chronometer.

                What a moron lmao

                Oh no! protein powder? on a fitness board? fine replace it with pic related.

                >It is very easy to get b12 on a vegan diet.
                Supplements don't replace real food.
                >why is this food group important for veganism as a whole if I don't eat it?
                Toddler brain.

                >Supplements don't replace real food.
                Yeah no shit, thats why they're called "supplements". I'll repeat what I said at the beginning of the post: "Whats the difference between drinking fortified plant milk for b12 and regular milk for b12?"

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Whats the difference between drinking fortified plant milk for b12 and regular milk for b12?
                One isn't real or normal, just like a wig on a bald head isn't just as good as having hair.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >protein powder?
                No, "bulk supplements." "Bulk supplements" makes all of your micros meaningless, because "bulk supplements" don't have the same nutrition as food. I don't know how you missed that and thought I was referring to "protein powder." The image is pretty big.

                >what's the difference between vitamins and real food
                lmao'ing that you need "science" to tell you the answer to this. Ok, here it is:

                https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M18-2478
                >Association Among Dietary Supplement Use, Nutrient Intake, and Mortality Among U.S. Adults
                >Adequate intake (at or above the Estimated Average Requirement or the Adequate Intake level) of vitamin A, vitamin K, magnesium, zinc, and copper was associated with reduced all-cause or CVD mortality, but the associations were restricted to nutrient intake from foods.

                https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0735109718345601?via%3Dihub
                >Their systematic reviews and meta-analyses showed generally moderate- or low-quality evidence for preventive benefits (folic acid for total cardiovascular disease,folic acidand B-vitamins for stroke), no effect (multivitamins,vitamins C, D, β-carotene, calcium,and selenium), or increased risk (antioxidant mixtures andniacin[with a statin] for all-cause mortality).
                >Conclusive evidence for the benefit of any supplement across all dietary backgrounds (including deficiency and sufficiency) was not demonstrated; therefore, any benefits seen must be balanced against possible risks.

                https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10408398.2014.912199
                >The majority of scientific studies investigating the use of MVM supplements in chronic disease risk reduction reported no significant effect.

                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35727272/
                >Vitamin and mineral supplementation was associated with little or no benefit in preventing cancer, cardiovascular disease, and death

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >There is tons of evidence supporting plant based diets.
                read my comment again and come back to me

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You know this makes your chronometer meaningless, right?

                Your diet could consist of white sugar, psyllium husk, protein powder and oil as long as it has this and you would be deluded into thinking you had a great chronometer.

                What a moron lmao

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It is very easy to get b12 on a vegan diet.
                Supplements don't replace real food.
                >why is this food group important for veganism as a whole if I don't eat it?
                Toddler brain.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Veganism increases suffering, though. Being a vegan makes you depressed and anxious because of the lack of vitamins, especially B12. The extreme pesticide load probably doesn't help either.

                https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10408398.2021.1974336?_kx=m5L24Zq1U2xHVe5dyJ7t775cIGSh4sjfK1f91tfxH_o%3D.WY2S6U
                >Meat consumption was associated with lower depression and lower anxiety compared to meat abstention.
                >Compared to vegans, meat consumers experienced both lower depression and anxiety.
                >The analysis also showed that the more rigorous the study, the more positive and consistent the relation between meat consumption and better mental health.
                >Our results show that meat abstention is clearly associated with poorer mental health, specifically higher levels of both depression and anxiety.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                statistics mean nothing to the individual. If a person's health is suffering due to veganism, they can adjust and make concessions until they reach a point where they balance between their own health and their moral position. To say vegans increase suffering because they don't enjoy meat is dumb and hyperbolic.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >reality doesn't apply to me because I'm special
                >veganism doesn't increase suffering even if it statistically does because I'm special
                OK

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not a vegan, I'm just not some petty moron that gets insulted by anyone who's lifestyle is different than mine.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                this is a pretty good reply to EPICALLY DESTROY AND OWN anything regardless of what it is, your neigbor is a meth addict? stop being a petty moron

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You replied to me with some middle school bully stupidity, I point it out, and then you reply with scizoposting.
                Just go.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                not me but okay anyways you should always care about others lifestyles

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                tell me why i should suffer from malnutrition for years so that a cow doesn't feel pain for 4 seconds

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                So you can cause the suffering of thousands/millions of smaller animals that you can pretend don't exist (who die or are displaced from massive crop fields that deplete soil and destroy the land). Veganism is a mental illness.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                humans evolved eating animals and thinking that we can somehow engineer our own "optimal" diet is pure naivety. nutritional science is based on unreliable methods and we still know little about our bodies. if you still want to risk your health for the sake of """optimizing""" your health or """saving""" the planet then go for it but leave the well-adjusted and non-self-loathing people alone

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >wah wah wah deforestation!
                i never got this meme. its literally trees, you can just replant them. not like they are not going to replant them, because then their business model wouldn't work.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        You should live in the wild for a bit to get some context for what an animal actually is. Just about everything in the animal kingdom wants you dead even if it doesn't want to eat you. A squirrel would kill you if it knew it could. Humans throughout history have been so successful at being at the top of the food chain that we not only have shaped entire species to suit us but are also responsible for a mass extinction event across the planet when we migrated out of Africa. This idea of being lovey dovey to animals other than your own species for the sake of feeling good with no ulterior motive is unique to modern people and isn't something worth considering when if it was reversed they'd be just as cruel to us

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          > A squirrel would kill you if it knew it could
          I don't think so. I see a lot of squirrels hanging with smaller animals it could kill, they seem to just ignore each other.

          >This idea of being lovey dovey to animals other than your own species for the sake of feeling good with no ulterior motive is unique to modern people and isn't something worth considering when if it was reversed they'd be just as cruel to us

          Yeah I don't really see a problem with this. Guess I'm just a better person than you.

          https://i.imgur.com/kYQNyT4.jpg

          stay in school kids

          What exactly is wrong with the logic in that picture? We can respect the life and empathize of another being who can experience fear, pain, joy, sadness similar to us without following their moral code.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Are vegans autistic?
            They seem to conflate the concept of
            >hurting a dog for fun
            which is just cruel and sadistic, with the idea of shooting prey game and eating it.
            Were you all just on the spectrum all along? Makes the most sense.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        because he is absolutely dumb as fricking brick and underaged

      • 11 months ago
        sage

        Imagine if we were in a society that commonly ate human and non human eaters ate things to replicate human meat, that's what you do vegans

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because the companies selling the products are trying to stay in business

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think you missed the point. The more important reason (AKA the reason companies do that to stay in business) is because humans are hard-wired to crave animal-based foods, as scientific research shows us (see below). Vegans imitate non-vegan foods because they crave them, no matter what they (subjectively) say. It's an innate cognitive dissonance.

        We can extract from this that a vegan diet is obviously not a good one if our body is hard-wired to be against it. We could use nutritional science, etc. to prove this (lack of essential micronutrients, lack of important micronutrients for athleticism, and so on), but I think common sense does fine enough.

        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31254550/
        >Twenty-four vegetarians and twenty-one omnivores were instructed to either passively look at the pictures or to change the appetitive value of the food
        >In contrast with the subjective data, no group differences were observed in any of the ERP measures, suggesting that similar neural processing of food-cues occurred in vegetarians and omnivores both during passive viewing and cognitive reappraisal.
        >Overall, our findings suggest that, in vegetarians, aversion towards nonvegetarian food prevails at the subjective level and is consistent with their personal beliefs. In contrast, at the neural level, the intrinsic motivational salience of this type of food is preserved.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I am craving chocolate/booze/cocaine cake right now. Must mean I can't live without it. Fricking room temperature IQ take. Most vegans grew up with burgers, pizza, and ice cream. They might still want to enjoy those foods, without going against their morals. I don't get what's so hard about that.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            pretty weird to try to replicate a result of something you see as equivelant to cannabalism, imagine if i made a fake human out of pork while insisting eating humans is bad

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I am craving chocolate/booze/cocaine cake right now.
            What? Did you even read any of the greentext? The study is saying "vegans crave meat as much as non-vegans, despite them saying they don't like meat at all." That has nothing to do with doing cocaine or alcoholism.

            Is English your second language or something? The point is that humans are hard-wired to eat animal-based foods.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >"vegans crave meat as much as non-vegans, despite them saying they don't like meat at all."
              nta, his point was that he thinks the same could be likely found for other substances that are not beneficial to one's health, like
              >[some] sober people crave chocolate/alcohol/other drugs as much as people who do indulge in said substances, despite them saying they don't like chocolate/alcohol/other drugs at all"
              If with nothing else I think this would hold for sugar, and likely many other unhealthy foods also.
              Hence "x is good and necessary for optimal function" not necessarily following from "humans crave x".

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                And that's a shitty comparison because those are addictive things and the foods in question in the study aren't addictive. No one is addicted to meat. No one is addicted to eggs. Comparing those to refined sugar and cocaine and alcohol is utterly moronic.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >No one is addicted to meat. No one is addicted to eggs.
                Have you seen this board

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Can you be addicted to water?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Water isn't addictive. Drinking excessive water is not "addiction," even if a mental illness is involved. The problem wouldn't be addiction, but that specific mental illness. I thought you were joking at first, but if you're serious, this is a really stupid conversation.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I know you might be joking, but it's really important to point out that meat and eggs aren't capable of causing addiction like refined sugar, cocaine and alcohol are. Of course an individual can be addicted to eating if they have some kind of disorder, and the foods they eat might include meat or eggs, but that's not at all what this conversation is about.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Vegans imitate non-vegan foods because they crave them, no matter what they (subjectively) say. It's an innate cognitive dissonance.
          I don't get the insult. Most vegans absolutely know and understand meat tastes better. There is no dissonance. You're just being arbitrarily petty.
          We also have supplements that can replace meat and dairy. We're not animals living the wild, so they simply choose not to eat meat because of their moral positions. There's not some delusion or deceit going on. They actively chose to sacrifice their wants in a way that can work for some individuals.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >There is no dissonance.
            If the words you are saying don't match what you actually think, that is dissonance. And that's exactly what the study shows.
            >We also have supplements that can replace meat and dairy.
            No you don't lol. Supplements don't replace food. Countless evidence shows this (let me know if you don't believe me).
            >there's no delusion going on
            If the words you are saying about what you want are contrary to what your brain actually wants, that is delusion.

            It's weird you call me "arbitrarily petty" before going on to completely deny the meaning of words and reality.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >If the words you are saying don't match what you actually think, that is dissonance. And that's exactly what the study shows.
              The study does not show what people said, stop trying to apply the study beyond what it actually observed. If vegans insist they start to find the taste of meat bad because of their distance from it, its possible and they may be bullshitting others, but for the most part, vegans won't deny that it tastes good. Just that the idea of meat might disgust them.
              >No you don't lol. Supplements don't replace food. Countless evidence shows this (let me know if you don't believe me).
              "countless studies" shows what happens on average. There are people in those many studies that have no issues switching to a vegan diet with supplements. Some individuals can handle it, some can't. Humans aren't carbon copies of each other. EVERYTHING in medicine has exceptions, but you seem to think only veganism doesn't, even though the studies show otherwise?
              >If the words you are saying about what you want are contrary to what your brain actually wants, that is delusion.
              I mean, if you make up definitions. I like punching fallacious morons like you in the face, doesn't mean I'm going around and doing it.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The study does not show what people said
                What are you talking about? What do you think the "subjective data" is? Did you even read the study?
                >I like to punch people like you in the face!
                Hahaha cool down there tough guy!
                >more nonsense about how people are special so reality doesn't matter
                lol

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >What are you talking about? What do you think the "subjective data" is? Did you even read the study?
                Did you read the study? 50ish people (too small of a sample) were told to look at a food they found appetizing. both groups looked at the meat as more appetizing. That's it. That's all the study described. Vegans that said they saw meat as disgusting weren't turned off by the taste, but in the same way you can want something but be disgusted by the moral implications of taking that thing. Nothing in this study is as concrete as you insist.
                >Hahaha cool down there tough guy!
                I'm not mad, it would just be fun to do.
                >handwaves away any argument that contradicts his stupidity
                Yep, say, "studies" again.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >weren't turned off by the taste
                wtf are you talking about you delusional moron? The study wasn't measuring "taste," it was measuring cognitive appraisal via neural processing (brain waves). Your ability to make up things like a complete psychopath is impressive but horrifying.
                >50ish people (too small of a sample)
                This isn't an epidemiology study so this statement is incorrect because it's meaningless.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I like punching fallacious morons like you in the face
                Many such cases:

                [...]

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not taking part in the argument, I just wanted to point out there was no insult in either the part you quoted nor the rest of his post.
            It was purely assumption on your part.
            I personally think this is somewhat telling, but I won't say further on the matter.

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >he is running

    How is that bad? Being well rounded in overall fitness is a good thing.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Its associated with being a wimp, a prey, a natural beta male, running away from a fight is cowardly, why train to run away if you can chase something instead unless you do loaded carries in which case with explosive work you don't need to be running more than 2.5mi.

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cool video idea but pretty weird considering that he literally owns a commercial gym

  15. 11 months ago
    nameless

    >He is going to Planet Fitness exclusively now
    why would he ever do this when his entire reason for having a youtube career was to advertise and run his own gym?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      for clickbait views

  16. 11 months ago
    feedingmuscle1

    (OP)
    Alan is to the core the manliest person I have ever seen on the internet
    I REALLY am an expert on this
    I never sent him any weird DMs because I respect him so much

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone who says it’s ok to use a smith machine should be shunned from any serious fitness discussion

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    He has always been a trend hopping homosexual
    He started by just parroting SS and tried to start teaching it despite never being particularly strong himself
    Now he is just parroting the next thing
    The man is a hack

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This.

      Guy is running out of ideas and isn't necessarily impressive with what he does. I bet it's even harder now that every bodybuilder/strongman/powerlifter makes clickbait influencer content now.

      What does Alan Thrall offer that someone else doesn't do better, in a more entertaining way?

      He's going for a hail mary, I guess

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This.

      Guy is running out of ideas and isn't necessarily impressive with what he does. I bet it's even harder now that every bodybuilder/strongman/powerlifter makes clickbait influencer content now.

      What does Alan Thrall offer that someone else doesn't do better, in a more entertaining way?

      He's going for a hail mary, I guess

      good tutorial videos

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I could tell immediately from looking at his face that he was a vegan. Seriously why do vegans always look pale and tired?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      he ate vegan for one day/video

      Alan Thrall is ok, his upper body makes me sad considering how long he's been lifting tbh. I think he just doesn't give a frick.

      >his upper body makes me sad considering how long he's been lifting
      yeah that's what happens when you fall for the SS/ripplebreasts meme. he spent years following ripplebreasts advice and only recently realized how moronic it is for people that wanna look good and build muscle.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      He isn't vegan, way to prove that you can't actually tell.

      It's not that simple, and obviously you don't understand it. You'd need to know more about how food works for it to an obvious fact, it SHOULD be common sense. It's probably not worth trying to argue with you anyway, being able to stick to veganism against all common sense shows nobody can convince you. Just know that if your teeth start rotting, your digestion sucks, get exczema/acne, brainfog or if you (become) a weak homosexual in general it's probably from the veganism

      Thats a lot of words for not actually saying anything or providing any evidence

      >Whats the difference between drinking fortified plant milk for b12 and regular milk for b12?
      One isn't real or normal, just like a wig on a bald head isn't just as good as having hair.

      Who cares if it is real or normal, it serves it's purpose without abusing an animal. But yeah blending plants to a milky substance and adding vitamins to it isn't "normal" but raping a cow, stealing it's baby and breastfeeding off of it is.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Who's raping cows? Are they in the room with us right now?
        >breastfeeding off it
        this is objectively incorrect, vegans have tried to stretch wording so far they've started outright lying, although i guess that starting with "rotting flesh". no one is breastfeeding off cows, breastfeeding involves a baby sucking on the nipple of it's mother, so unless you have something to confess, no one is doing that

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Artificial insemination is standard even on "small family farms". If being forcibly fisted isn't a form of rape then I don't know what is.
          >this is objectively incorrect, vegans have tried to stretch wording so far they've started outright lying, although i guess that starting with "rotting flesh". no one is breastfeeding off cows, breastfeeding involves a baby sucking on the nipple of it's mother, so unless you have something to confess, no one is doing that
          Oh I'm so sorry, I was not aware you graduated to bottle feeding. You're a big boy now.

          >protein powder?
          No, "bulk supplements." "Bulk supplements" makes all of your micros meaningless, because "bulk supplements" don't have the same nutrition as food. I don't know how you missed that and thought I was referring to "protein powder." The image is pretty big.

          >what's the difference between vitamins and real food
          lmao'ing that you need "science" to tell you the answer to this. Ok, here it is:

          https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M18-2478
          >Association Among Dietary Supplement Use, Nutrient Intake, and Mortality Among U.S. Adults
          >Adequate intake (at or above the Estimated Average Requirement or the Adequate Intake level) of vitamin A, vitamin K, magnesium, zinc, and copper was associated with reduced all-cause or CVD mortality, but the associations were restricted to nutrient intake from foods.

          https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0735109718345601?via%3Dihub
          >Their systematic reviews and meta-analyses showed generally moderate- or low-quality evidence for preventive benefits (folic acid for total cardiovascular disease,folic acidand B-vitamins for stroke), no effect (multivitamins,vitamins C, D, β-carotene, calcium,and selenium), or increased risk (antioxidant mixtures andniacin[with a statin] for all-cause mortality).
          >Conclusive evidence for the benefit of any supplement across all dietary backgrounds (including deficiency and sufficiency) was not demonstrated; therefore, any benefits seen must be balanced against possible risks.

          https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10408398.2014.912199
          >The majority of scientific studies investigating the use of MVM supplements in chronic disease risk reduction reported no significant effect.

          https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35727272/
          >Vitamin and mineral supplementation was associated with little or no benefit in preventing cancer, cardiovascular disease, and death

          >No, "bulk supplements." "Bulk supplements" makes all of your micros meaningless, because "bulk supplements" don't have the same nutrition as food. I don't know how you missed that and thought I was referring to "protein powder." The image is pretty big.
          Not sure if it is cut off for you, but thats just a brand of protein powder. It says it right there "Bulk supplements, onions protein isolate"

          Those studies are all great and all. But if I'm deficient in vitamin D and take a vitamin D supplement. I'm no long deficient in vitamin D. If I take a b12 supplement, I'm no longer deficient in B12. Thats the purpose of them.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >thats just a brand of protein powder.
            My bad, I thought it was two separate things.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Thats the purpose of them.
            First of all, you have to consume much more vitamin D or B12 via supplements for them to be absorbed than you would in real food because they are less bioavailable. Secondly, it seems to be more complex than just "deficient -> take vitamin -> lab shows I'm fine -> I'm fine" as the studies above show, because, despite taking supplements and seemingly being "not deficient," the preventative benefits of those vitamins seem to not be there.

            Food and nutrition is much more complicated than a handful of molecules we've isolated. Common sense will tell you that, but science can show you that, too. Supplements don't and can't replace food.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            And are these cows negatively affected?

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              also the alternative is getting bulled

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            What is a cow to a man? Our health and wellbeing comes first.

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Alan Thrall is ok, his upper body makes me sad considering how long he's been lifting tbh. I think he just doesn't give a frick.

  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    He's a bit of a dummy when it comes to training. He made a video where he argues against the idea of having deload weeks and says you should train every day without any rest days.

  22. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    He ate vegan for one day for a video

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