>you can't make gains as a veg...

>you can't make gains as a veg...

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not as bio-available
    Also
    How many bites of broccoli is 100calories, vs 100cals of steak
    /thread

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Not as bio-available
      Meaningless meat marketing talking point. Literally non-issue.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are el retarderino

        Not as bio-available
        Also
        How many bites of broccoli is 100calories, vs 100cals of steak
        /thread

        Fpbp

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >eat food
        >body doesn't completely digest it

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        See what happens when you only eat corn vs only eat meat.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just eat sawdust then it’s cheap and full of protein.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Please know what you are talking about before you post.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Broccoli has all amino acids and is easier to digest than meat which in quantity causes heartburn, choking, ulcers and gerd.

        Good posts, none of the replies even attempted to prove you wrong because they can't. Meatfags are that retarded.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >pro meat and roid MD's
        Ftfy

        Broccoli has all amino acids and is easier to digest than meat which in quantity causes heartburn, choking, ulcers and gerd.

        https://i.imgur.com/LRCqJOY.png

        [...]
        Good posts, none of the replies even attempted to prove you wrong because they can't. Meatfags are that retarded.

        samefag

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    now compare that shit with chicken

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >100 calories of beef
    >62g
    >100 calories of broccoli
    >287g

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Volume is good keeps your lard ass out of the pantry lomger

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >not knowing the difference between full and satiated
        You've never experienced satiety. Try going a day without hunger-stimulating goyslop.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Grew up in abject poverty eating what I could. I learned that the difference doesn't matter.
          I hit my macros, hit my calories and then move along.
          I have the willpower to go hungry, but your average American lard ass will confuse being bored for being hungry. If you're on the verge of vomiting from volume alone you're going to think twice about scarfing down a row of Oreos.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Grew up in abject poverty eating what I could.
            So you grew up eating trash. Why would anyone take your opinions on food seriously?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Man anon you should go to the Olympics with those leaps.
              I didn't mention I grew up in Mexico, where vegetables are in fact cheaper than junk food. I mostly had tortillas and whatever else we(mother and I) could get on 0 income as her history of mental illness prevented her from getting or maintaining a job.
              I ate a considerable amount of rice, beans and corn. If we were lucky and the butcher wasn't selling his meat as fast as he would like we would get heavily discounted beef.

              All this should be irrelevant to the threat but since you feel inclined to pause your jerking session in your air conditioner basement to type baseless guesses I guess it must be added.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh also went to college for a double major in Culinary Arts/Nutrition with a minor in restaurant management and worked 3 years as a nutrition specialist at a nursing home.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/Dl3YVQh.gif

      Ah yes, just going to eat 6,000g of broccoli to hit my daily protein goal.

      24 average sized heads of broccoli a day

      Imagine the braaaaps. But seriously, why not eat both?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why not eat the braps

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Steak, blanched broccoli, duck fat and garlic baked potatoes, a wedge of sharp cheddar.
        This is my favourite meal.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Per 100 calories
    Ah yes just eat fucking a whole wheelbarrow of broccoli

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      RDA of protein is 56 grams (that's way too low, but we'll use it anyway for the sake of simplicity). To get that, you could eat 542 g (19 oz) of steak, or you could eat 1448 g (51 oz, or 3.2 lb.) of broccoli. According to google, the average head of broccoli is 225 g (8 oz), so for just your recommended daily allowance of protein you would need to eat about six and a half heads of broccoli every day.
      Keep in mind that all of this is not factoring in the lower bioavailabilty of plant proteins.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >9.6 g protein per 100 g steak
        it's around two times of that

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The RDA for protein is actually the minimum amount for a 4 year old to not be protein deficient. Not how much you should ideally eat. It's just a minimum

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you will always be deficient

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >what is bioavalability

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not as bio-available
      Also
      How many bites of broccoli is 100calories, vs 100cals of steak
      /thread

      doesn't matter

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cope

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >For example, a recent study looking at the effects of either whey or pea protein supplementation found no difference between groups in strength, power, CrossFit performance, lean body mass, and body composition after 8-weeks of training. Banaszek 2019 Of note, the average protein consumption was approximately the same at 1.8 and 1.7 grams of protein per kilogram bodyweight for the whey and pea protein groups, respectively. In other words, the protein dose was pretty high and overcame any apparent differences in EAA content or bioavailability.

          >In another study, Joy et al. took 24 college-aged males and trained them 3x/wk for 8 weeks while providing them with 48 grams of protein from whey or rice. The authors hypothesized that at this level of protein intake, muscle protein synthesis would be maximized from either protein supplement. Similar to the Banaszek study, both groups saw similar increases in 1RM bench press and leg press, and increases in peak power in a Wingate test. The authors also noted that there were, “No detectable differences were present in psychometric scores of perceived recovery, soreness, or readiness to train.”Joy 2013.

          >Hartman et al. measured the strength and muscle gain of 56 young men after 12 weeks of training 5 days per week. The men were randomized into one of three groups that consumed milk, onions, or sugar after each training session. There were significant increases in strength for all groups, but no differences between the onions or milk protein groups following 12-weeks of resistance training. With respect to hypertrophy, it did appear that there was a slight advantage in those who consumed milk compared to the onions group, however this finding was barely statistically significant. Additionally, the onions group was consuming 1.2 g/kg/day of protein compared to the milk group consuming 1.4 g/kg/day, which may have influenced this small finding.Hartman 2007

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Did they eat only protein isolates for 8 weeks ? Or had they a VARIED diet on the side ? Something like, I don't know, meat ?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why they're testing onions? Does onion has protein? How many onions they ate?
            I like onions, but I rather not eat raw onions for the gains and stick to milk...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it doesn't matter that my body only digests a quarter of the protein and shits out the rest

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >For example, a recent study looking at the effects of either whey or pea protein supplementation found no difference between groups in strength, power, CrossFit performance, lean body mass, and body composition after 8-weeks of training. Banaszek 2019 Of note, the average protein consumption was approximately the same at 1.8 and 1.7 grams of protein per kilogram bodyweight for the whey and pea protein groups, respectively. In other words, the protein dose was pretty high and overcame any apparent differences in EAA content or bioavailability.

          >In another study, Joy et al. took 24 college-aged males and trained them 3x/wk for 8 weeks while providing them with 48 grams of protein from whey or rice. The authors hypothesized that at this level of protein intake, muscle protein synthesis would be maximized from either protein supplement. Similar to the Banaszek study, both groups saw similar increases in 1RM bench press and leg press, and increases in peak power in a Wingate test. The authors also noted that there were, “No detectable differences were present in psychometric scores of perceived recovery, soreness, or readiness to train.”Joy 2013.

          >Hartman et al. measured the strength and muscle gain of 56 young men after 12 weeks of training 5 days per week. The men were randomized into one of three groups that consumed milk, onions, or sugar after each training session. There were significant increases in strength for all groups, but no differences between the onions or milk protein groups following 12-weeks of resistance training. With respect to hypertrophy, it did appear that there was a slight advantage in those who consumed milk compared to the onions group, however this finding was barely statistically significant. Additionally, the onions group was consuming 1.2 g/kg/day of protein compared to the milk group consuming 1.4 g/kg/day, which may have influenced this small finding.Hartman 2007

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >novices training for three months or less

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >novices training for three months or less

          >nooooo you cant just eat veggies instead of my ancestral carnivore organ meat diet and make gainz

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            novice would make gains regardless of diet

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Mushrooms and beans can get as high as .90

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, legumes in general are good
            Not fucking broccoli tho
            Also don't mushrooms have next to no nutritional value at all?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            u shit out shrooms in exct same state as u ate em

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Have fun eating 3kg of broccoli

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            maybe I will, digitmaster

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        keyed

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >per 100 calories
    What kind of retarded measurement is this?

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ah yes, just going to eat 6,000g of broccoli to hit my daily protein goal.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      24 average sized heads of broccoli a day

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what psychopath measures by per 100 calories.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >per 100 calories
      What kind of retarded measurement is this?

      use nuts if you want to compare in terms of weight

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Manipulative people who try to gaslight you, and constantly shame you for eating meat.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Same OP?
    glowmoron?
    what are your thoughts fellow anons

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/Dl3YVQh.gif

      Ah yes, just going to eat 6,000g of broccoli to hit my daily protein goal.

      are you trying to kill the earth or something?
      stop eating meat RIGHT NOW
      WHO and WEF are trying to save the world
      https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/12/vegetarianism-is-good-for-the-economy-too/

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >pic
        the journey is going to be a short one for this rapidly deteriorating woman.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This bitch is cachectic and has the hair of a kwashiorkor baby in Africa. Are they trying to make me anti vegan?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why would glowies EVER advocate for veganism?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This has to be shopped

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/Oes3Mus.jpg

        [...]
        Same OP?
        glowmoron?
        what are your thoughts fellow anons

        It is shopped.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Vegan shills make several threads per day. They used to be extremely focused on making threads bashing keto. People started noticing so they've switched gears.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Bug eaters
      >People
      Choose one, and only one.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You will own nothing,
      You will eat the bugs,
      And you will be happy.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >no creatine (which contributes to general strength)
    >no Amino acids (which is essential to gaining and holding onto muscle)
    >no zink (which is essential to synthesizing testosteron)
    Not to mention the amount of broccoli you have to eat to get a bit of protein.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      creatine is also needed for brain function
      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33578876/

      Explains why this happens to vegans

      ?t=605

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >lectins
        >image of BREAD
        >decrease the effect by soaking and cooking thoroughly
        ???
        bread is already baked so shouldn't it already be okay? you want me to cook the bread with soup or something?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          methods aren't universal, employ intelligent discretion, based off what cultures in history did

          sourdough is the best type of bread, lowest FODMAPs and lectins
          even if you have celiac's it might be edible once in a while

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >pic
            I don't understand some of those terms but for me personally scrambled eggs or omelette where the egg isn't 100% cooked/boiled but receives moderate heat for a long time (10+ minutes) are much easier to digest than hard boiled eggs. hard boiled eggs are horrible for me. what's that about? is there perhaps another harmful component that forms when egg white is heated too much?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        None of these are bad in the doses you'd typically eat, and the ones that are are unpalatable unless cooked which neutralizes the anti-nutrient. But I can see why it would be a problem for vegans that struggle to get enough vitamins and minerals without their food decreasing its availability even more.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>no Amino acids
      what lmao. You cant have protein without amino acids. There might not be a lot of it in broccoli, but its still there.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    don't respond to vegans
    hide vegan threads
    fuck ethics and fuck treehuggers
    still eating meat

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >A
      Carrots
      >D
      Sunlight
      Don't get me wrong, I despise Veganism too, just stick with the facts

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Protein quality doesn't matter that much. You might as well be focusing on the surface area of the food that's being digested. We're really talking on the margins here.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Broccoli has all amino acids and is easier to digest than meat which in quantity causes heartburn, choking, ulcers and gerd.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Do you actually believe those lies?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        My wife gets heartburn from looking at tomatoes or thinking about drinking wine, but never once got heart burn from eating meat.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Red wine? Could be a histamine problem.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You clearly need to start eating meat.
        Malnutrition from your vegan diet has made you retarded.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > 100 calories of broccoli are easier to digest than 100 calories of meat

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    brainlets really think all protein is the same

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dude just combine two different sources of vegetarian protein and the amino profile is even better than the one of meat alone.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The more I see posts like that, the more I want to eat meat. This vegan shit fuels my energy like nothing else. I rather go carnivore than vegan. The malnourishment and mental retardation you get from this is insane.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The steak numbers are a fabrication. The broccoli numbers are a lie.

    Aside from that, bioavailability is obviously a huge issue and the quantity of broccoli quickly becomes obscene.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >protein per calories
    not how nutrition works. what that image really says is:
    >broccoli has neither protein nor energy
    so basically you need some other reason to eat broccoli, like vitamins, minerals or fiber. if you already have all you need of those things you shouldn't eat broccoli. meanwhile it's almost impossible to get too much protein so a food rich in protein like beef is almost always a good addition to your diet.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Blatant lie.
    100 calories of meat roughly equates to 10-20 grams of protein with extremely high bioavailability.
    100 calories of broccoli as an incomplete protein doesn't even equate to 10 grams of protein not to mention the whole incomplete part. Add in extremely low bioavailability as vegetables rely entirely on gut fermentation to absorb and finally the absurd amount of broccoli needed to compare.

    fuck off newfag.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Completeness vs incompleteness doesn't matter unless you eat nothing but broccoli for your protein source

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >being this retarded
        eating 100 calories of an incomplete protein means you have to eat more calories to obtain the same protein ratio as just one serving of meat.

        Yes it does fucking matter you absolute retarded giraffe herder.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP is a fag

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >11 grams of indigestible protein
    >and anti-nutrients
    >and carcinogens

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm (sort of) vegan and I look better than a solid amount of IST, judging by /cbt/ threads. Not to disrespect their progress, anyone who works on themselves is respectable. I do eat fish and meat if I hunt it myself though, but somewhat rare to do so. Once I get my own property I plan to own chickens as well. Probably still won't eat cheese or milk, seems like a massive pain to try and get my own milk, even from a smaller animal like a goat. Just having to impregnate that bitch for my milk seems like a big chore, ignoring the ethics of it. Not a big deal though, cheese is pretty easy to fake with nutritional yeast.

    Don't particularly care about other peoples diets tbh, I think meat eaters are way more annoying and pretentious when it comes to shit like that. Even outside of IST I would regularly have people try to check me or slip shit into my food as a gotcha. Sort of expected though, you add your personal ethics into anything and someone is always going to want to debate you on it for no fucking reason. Still, nobody here on IST has ever etched the windows of a walmart before, or fucked a delivery truck, despite pretending to be anti-goyslop radicals. I believe in standing for my beliefs, simple as.

    Anyways, enjoy your monthly bump for making a shitty thread that made it past my word filters. Cheers lads, gna hit a new PR today. Wagmi

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Just having to impregnate that bitch for my milk seems like a big chore, ignoring the ethics of it

      >man drinks goat milk since the dawn of time
      >soichugers in [current year]
      >nooooooo you can't disrespect the goats like this, it's unethical...
      why do all the vegans are such insufferable gays

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think he meant ergonomically it would be a pain in the ass, mr. underaged Larper. You'd need more goats to impregnate it, more land, you would need to deal with the babies afterwards, pay vet fees, etc et al. If you aren't a dedicated farmer then I can imagine it would be a huge pain. Pretty sure just to have a single cow you need at least like 2 acres of land, so already that's a hugr cost.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >if you want to impregnate a single goat you have to buy a buck
          kys you brainlet gay and go buy your goyslop.
          also I didn't see you writing anything about him calling impregnating a goat for milk unethical, mr gay.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ok mr. Underaged larp poster. Have fun being mad. Make sure you don't stay up past your bedtime baiting on 4chan. Summer is almost over

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >gets assblasted
              >has nothing to say
              >u underage
              I accept your concession

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lookin good!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My 48 y/o alcoholic, pothead asbestos removal coworker looks 10 years younger than he does.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This makes me really want compare 100g of beef to 100g of broccoli in how much nutrition they offer. People like to meme broccoli as a superfood, but I am quite sure beef would beat it in most metrics by an order of magnitude.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hmm

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Casually eats 20lbs of broccoli to get 200g of a piss poor, incomplete protein and 600g of carbs

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    100 calories of broccoli is 3/4 a pound. Round up to a pound and its 150 calories or 15 grams of protein.

    1 lb pg beef is 117g of protien.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not sure where they're getting those numbers from.
    I'm vegetarian myself and eat 500g of broccoli or other green cruciferous veg a day but that's disingenuous

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >inferring violence is bad

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Plant murder.

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >All protein is the same
    It's, gay

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >pro meat and roid MD's
      Ftfy

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm lifetime veggie and wouldn't really turn to broccoli for protein tbh, tend to get mine through dairy and legumes mostly

    I'm 6"1 so my growth hasn't been stunted at least, but admittedly I find it very difficult to put on either fat or muscle

  33. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >etable

  34. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    two google searches proved you wrong

  35. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    FOOD

  36. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.nutritionix.com/food/broccoli/100-g

    Broccoli has 2.4g of protein by 100g. You believe propaganda which you could have fact checked with a 10 seconds long search on Google. You are retarded.

  37. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    bro it's been a decade since I first saw this picture. Is op a bot?

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