>you can't make gains without eating animal produc...

>you can't make gains without eating animal produc...

  1. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    vegan food tastes like shit unless you pay top dollar for the best ingredients. meat tastes better and has quicker results.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah meat tastes so good you have to smother it in herbs, Hispanices, and plant based sauces to make it palatable

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        >t. tastebudlet

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        Throw raw meat on a bbq and it'll stay taste good

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, vegan food so delicious you have to smother it in literal ROCKS (salt) to make it palatable

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          yeah, potatoes are so yummy you have to boil them in fucking water to make them edible

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Only if you're a shit cook

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >fry meat in butter
        >remove to rest
        >add cream to pan
        >scrape and reduce
        It's kind of wild to think about how butter and cream come from plants but I guess you're right.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        No you don't you mouth breathing gay. Throw a ribeye on the grill, turn once, eat. Tastes delicious. Also many people I know eat raw meat including myself. Also tastes delicious. You're a giant homo, sucking carrots like dicks.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Ingredients work together, you understand? I'm sure all your vegetables are unseasoned too lmao. A good steak only requires salt

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        retard

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Hey fuck you

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >Has never tasted steak cooked on an open fire
        Just end it now lmao

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Vegans are the biggest tastelets in the world. Imagine voluntarily refusing to cheese?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        extremely well crafted bait post
        I KNEEL

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Beef tastes amazing grilled with its own fat. As does Ham and Chicken

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        You just can't cook, herbs ad Hispanices are supposed to enhace the taste not drench it. I regulary eat raw meat and the taste, texture and experience are fine to me.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        I'm white so my meat is cooked with a bit of pepper and salt, anything else ruins the taste of fresh delicious meat. I couldn't even name any other herbs or Hispanices

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >meat tastes better and has quicker results.
      Cheap meat is guaranteed to be full of transats, antibiotics, hormones etc.
      If you want something that is healthy and taste good it will be more expensive, be it plants or meat.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      at least if you're vegetarian you can eat eggs, greek yogurt, whey, cottage cheese, etc... I couldn't imagine being vegan and trying to hit protein intake goals with lentils and beans

      https://i.imgur.com/mFvFgrM.jpg

      >mogs all of IST

      peak roid, who does this guy think he's fooling

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      vegan food tastes alright (vegan cheese aside that shit is vile). however it's a lot harder to get a good body on a vegan diet. impossible? no, but you'll spend more time and money on the food than you'd on something else.

  2. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >5 years if roiding just to make a unique selling point out of lying about your diet
    fine by me. its always a telltale sign of mediocracy when you make a character out of a habit

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Lol FPBP

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        it isn't the first post

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      moron he is a body builder it goes without saying he is in roids. The question was not if you can be a pro body builder natty(impossible) it was if you can it vegan (he did)

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Dammit, such a good point until you pulled out "mediocracy". You literal ape.

  3. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >mogs all of IST

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Mirin hairline

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah this guy build his body by being a vegan natty. I totally believe him.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Vegan is such a shit diet the only examples they show us are people who are clearly on roids and lie about what they eat.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >100% natty

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      nice im on the vegan diet of blasting test and tren too
      rejoice veganers it does work

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I'm going to troll carnitard with this, thanks. Btw veganism is retarded and he's roiding like carniboomer.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      sure roidchud will always look good even eating macdonalds every day. Show me a natty vegan with a good body

  4. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    and they were right, he isn't a successful bodybuilder

    cool documentary that you got to star in though (sponsored by goyslop manufacturers trying to up their margins)

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      >npc championship

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >DISAPPOINTING

  5. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    I fundamentally disagree with veganism. Factory farming is horrendous though. So I just go hunting a couple of times a year and go fishing weekly during the summer. Easily get more than enough meat to last me. If you choose to go vegan instead of capturing your own meat you're just telling me that you're a moron and you suck at philosophy and being resourceful.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      I wholeheartedly agree. If you would though, please elaborate on your philosophical disagreement with veganism. I just wanna see if/how we differ, anon.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      how do i as a city slicker learn to hunt

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      >fishing once a week is enough meat for the year
      Man we live near different waters

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        hehe, you're so witty.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      based. just got my first compound bow and am gonna go merc some deer next month and say goodbye to the moo garden gnome

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        The fucking moo garden gnome. Im stealing that anon. Your contribution is appreciated

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >moo garden gnome

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Where are these "factory farms"?
      I live in farming country, been all over the USA and never saw a "factory farm".
      There are all sorts of laws about the treatment of livestock, but for some reason they dont apply to a farm when it becomes a factory?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Poultry and pigs is usually kept in pretty bad conditions, at least where I live (yurop). With cattle it depends.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >all sorts of laws

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Literally propaganda.
          Video could have been from anywhere on earth at any time.
          I wouldnt even put it past these vegan gays to abuse the animals themselves just to make a video of it.
          Vegans dont give a shit about animals, they only care about convincing people that they are morally superior.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >Vegans dont give a shit about animals, they only care about convincing people that they are morally superior.
            Alot of them maybe but i know a few bleeding hearts who don't get in your face about it, mostly old ones who lived near the slaughterhouse.
            They still eat things like egg and milk though so not sure if that's vegan, and their rural too so they're smarter.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              I guess I am a vegan, just because all meat and egg products taste like cheap slaughtered shit.

              Don't care what others do or think,
              There are some tasty fish thou.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              they are vegetarians. Vegetarians don't eat flesh, vegans abstain from all animal products.

              at least if you're vegetarian you can eat eggs, greek yogurt, whey, cottage cheese, etc... I couldn't imagine being vegan and trying to hit protein intake goals with lentils and beans
              [...]
              peak roid, who does this guy think he's fooling

              tofu, seitan, TVP good vegan protein. Legumes aren't enough imo

  6. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Steroids are not vegan

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Actually most injectable test is made from s o y right?

  7. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Arnold's new program lies to people. Unfortunately California has rotted his brain.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      He just wants to earn more money

  8. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >another lying fraud vegan gay like Kai Greene
    >look at how impressive I am I got to hang out with Arnold who is also a lying fraud gay who also hates America and freedom
    Disgusting

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      DYEL ketolard alert

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Arnold who is also a lying fraud gay
      uh?
      >who also hates America and freedom
      yeah the verdict is in: based

  9. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    look being vegan is 100% a good diet and almost certainly healthier then 99%+ of regular diets, but at the end of the day im just not equipped for dealing with the change in lifestyle and the effort required to fine tune my diet. i already fail at dieting as an omnivore

    clarence kenedy is another example of an elite athlete whos vegan. you guys can cope that its all roids. and whilst thats a big component to their success of course the diet of an elite athlete matters too. you cannot become elite level eating maccyd's.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >being vegan is 100% a good diet
      What an utterly absurd statement.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      kek. yeah. thats why it made me weak and depressed. cause its the best diet. and my issues stopped when I ate a raw steak. thanks sv3rige.

  10. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Can't be vegan if you're on tren.

  11. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    that guy is disgusting. lying just like that about being natty is one thing. but using it to sell veganism and even starring in a documentary to pretend you made gains due to veganism and not roids is plain deceipt. "game changers" my ass.
    inb4—"hurr durr you said vegans can't make gains". stfu. vegans can make gains, yes. that's not the question. the question is, is veganism healthier and better for building muscle? fuck no. it's outright worse diet for fitness with more deficiencies, that promises superpowers but in reality is unscientific bullshit driven only by ideology.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      So much this. He obviously also made up that quote about "wouldn't waste their time" - what fucking personal trainer would ever turn away someone who has good hard cash and doesn't smell? And see the way he adds at the end of it "& there would never be a successful vegan bodybuilder" - I don't have to check google to be 100% sure there have been successful bodybuilder at least at some level before 2014 and why would they say something like that? It's just not the sort of thing you would add in that conversation, in a parallel universe they weren't interested in him they would wish him luck. It's just so obviously fake. Lying about his own body is one thing, anyone following him and buying his stuff is getting scammed.

  12. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >implying taking exogenous hormones is vegan
    I shiggy diggy

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    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine the smell

  16. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    You can, but it will be more difficult and you need to make sure you have ways to make up for certain nutrients you're losing out on through not eating meat. While there are alternate food sources and supplements available for those particular nutrients, protein sources etc you need to make sure you're strictly managing your diet to get the optimal intake

  17. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    vegetarian you can do, dairy and eggs are still allowed which are good foods for gainz
    vegan will be a struggle but can still be done

  18. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone says that meat is not delicious have never tried foie gras and a good T bone or bbq ribs. You guys are literally unevolved

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      How can you criticize the taste and texture of meat when you unironically eat tofu and shit like beyond burgers? I've had those, compared to meat they are flavorless and have the consistency of something else entirely different from the meat its supposed to represent. That shit is pretty much just nothing more than bean cakes.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        I don't like the inconsistency of meat. All the sinew, grisle etc

  19. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Today I ate fake vegan meat and it tasted good

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      congrats on the chuding out

  20. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Good thing tren is far more potent than beef

  21. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    people get too focused on polar opposites.

    If you have just 1-2 servings of animal protein a day, you will not notice having the rest of your protein come from plant sources in terms of muscle growth. You will notice many other gains by eating plants, like reduced inflammation, less chance of cancers, more healthy lipid panels, easier shits, better mood.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I feel best eating no plants

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        that's likely due to an issue with your gut or digestive system

        It's not a normal thing, it's a medical problem.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      It's simply untrue, you'll like important amino-acids, you'll digest less nutrients, you'll dry up you intestinal walls and cause inflammations etc. Why are you disingenious ? I suppose you're trolling young fags to keep them from getting real gains by eating cream, meat, fish and butter. You're defending grain base diets like a Levantine settler in ancient Assyria 9000 years ago before he got his ass handed to him by semi-nomad meat eaters. Think of one intelligent animal on this planet and see if it only eats plants and grains
      >But muh crows and elephants
      If you did think of these two you're still wrong, neither of the two base their diet on plant, elephants use plants to produce bacterias they then digest and use to get plenty of protein like a self-metabolic farm.
      And it's even better with grassfed cattle.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        you will get all your essential animal amino acids within 1-2 servings of animal protein.

        Plant protein is much cheaper than animal protein and you can consume much more of it to make up for the lack of quality. It also offers many health benefits as well.

        Everything else you said is just retarded schizo rambling

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >easier shits

      When will grain brains realize fiber doesn't help you shit, but creates more shit. Having to shit because your filled with fiber is not a positive

  22. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >builds his base on animal products
    >goes vegan for “ethical reasons” (totally not shilling for sponsorships and easy attention)
    >goes full roidchud and consume all synthetic refined oils + fart powders but that’s ok because at least a cow didn’t need to get milked
    >doesn’t even place because you’re some literally who with no real following except B12 deficient dyel psychos who worship every pick-me that joins their death cult
    >…
    >profit??

  23. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >digs tunnel with spoon
    >"see i told you i didnt need a shovel, i win"
    Wow big win.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >checked
      Honestly best analogy I have seen about vegan bodybuilders

  24. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >using steroids to look like a natty meat eater looks
    uh wut

  25. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Test

  26. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, it's called steroids.

  27. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Ill make it clear 4 u in case you didnt get it.

    Yes meat is cheaper.
    Yes it's easier protein.
    Yes it's widely available.
    That's the fucking point. Meat is overly abundant because itl' get mass produced. Slaughterhouses and other food industry processing plants are fucking factories where the main material worked here is dead meat
    >it gets industrially produced so hard and cheap that it can make it into your broke assfridge
    >because ~~*they*~~ give zero (0) fucks about whether animals get treated like less than shit by sociopaths living their best lives or if it could be done in an otherwise efficient way hat minimize their suffering, all cause of $$$
    >whole point of being vagan is to avoid this overly abundant shit that is literal fresh corpse parts taken from animal killed in cartoonishly evil manners and still go on about your life
    >and try spread awareness that we souldnt tolerate this shit, that there should be higher standards of killing instead and shits

    >what you fucks don't understand is that being vegan and lifting is the same struggle as lifting but without fueling your gains on animal products which is an aberation
    Going vegan is a choice lad. A lot of vegans fucking love meat just as much as you boys do. They just chose not to buy it because it feeds the grimest fucking industry there is. And cows make cool nature friends too tbh.
    >animal product is an abberation, you would't turn your fucking cat into glue, pincers, sandals and fucking meatballs just cuz

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      You will never be an herbivore and you will never be a woman.

      >A lot of vegans fucking love meat
      >They just chose not to buy it
      Being a retard by choice is worse than being an actual retard.
      Just go shill on Twitter or Hackernews, the audience there is more welcoming to vegegayry.

  28. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't know they made vegan steroids

  29. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    The only thing you max when going vegan is mental illness.

  30. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Coping fake Natty Manlet needing an identity

  31. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    bot thread

  32. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Well what do you know, you can build a good physique on steroids regardless of your shitty diet.

  33. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    He's lying. There's no way he can get enough nutrients in the volume he'd have to eat is obscene.

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