You do train martial arts, right? Youre strength is useless if you dont. You are wasting your time.

You do train martial arts, right?
Youre strength is useless if you dont. You are wasting your time.

  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >*punches him in the face*

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      That doesn't work. The force of the punch would be generated entirely by your arm swinging up, Force is mass * velocity, and you arm is not that heavy, and the muscles in your arm aren't big enough to generate lots of speed. This is unlike when you punch from a standing position, where your punch is reenforced with your body weight, and the muscles in your torso and legs rotating.

      Also, if you would being choked, your fist would be making contact with your opponents face once your arm is at edge of its range of mobility, where it has lost some of its force. At some point along the range of motion, the muscles cannot contract any further, and your arm would just be smooshing your shoulder muscles together.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Alright then
        >*stabs him*

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Literally your only chance.
          If you're cold and focused, you have 3 to 5 seconds to grab a pocket knife, and calmly but firlmy plant the blade in the guy's neck. He'll probably release you from the sheer terror of being neck stabbed, and if he doesn't, you have to make sure to strike gis carotid artery so he'll pass our from blood loss before he can choke you to death.

          [...]
          Yes start killing people randomly the judge will definitely believe you

          If you have video evidende/eye witnesses that you were on a chokehold, assuming the guy was the primary aggressor, non-retarded judges will acquite you. A chokehold is (potentially) lethal force by any sensible measure.

          Of course, this doesn't work in Britain because british justice doesn't allow for the use of weapons in self defense if you're a civilian (you're required by law to die instead of using a weapon).

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >shoot your way out of a chokehold
            God be with you lol

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Stab, not shoot.
              Shooting works even better, but you'll never hear from your dominant ear again lol.
              Still, better deaf than dead.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            you're a complete fucking retard dude sorry. maybe learn that self-defence is the extent to which reasonable force is applied. murdering a person is not reasonable and if you have to resort to that you're a coward and a pussy and you'll be my bitch in prison but i'll be on the outside, free and smiling and jovially laughing at your misery. fucking idiot

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              >my bitch in prison but i'll be on the outside, free
              >my bitch in prison
              >I'll be outside

              Retards are never intimidating because they aren't good at fighting
              Way to expose yourself, mongoloid

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              >some retard is trying to choke me out and risk giving me permanent brain damage, God only knows what else he'll do to my limp body after the lights go out
              >well, better do nothing because that'd be unreasonable force
              top jej
              Fightfags are retarded.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          lighter under the elbow also works

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'd rather learn something practical like boxing

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Which is a martial art

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    That moment you realized martial arts is useless

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Alright then
      >*stabs him*

      Yes start killing people randomly the judge will definitely believe you

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >arrested for felony assault

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >randomly
        if you're getting choked to death, it's 100% lawful to stab your attacker

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Yes start attacking people randomly with ebin mma the judge will definitely believe you fightfag

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Wtf? No, you can't defend yourself if your life is at risk! Can't you just fucking die or play the victim like anyone else?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >wear bulletproof vest
      >you shoot
      >shit! He's still standi..ACK!

      Alright then
      >*stabs him*

      >tries to stab me with his 3" knife
      >gets humiliated with wooden sticks

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is why chest flies are a must
    >grab his arms
    >spread them out with your massive pecs

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >this is the IQ level of IST
      Spreading your arms doesn't involve the chest, mongoloid. It involves the lats. Bringing your arms together involves the pecs. God you people are so fucking stupid.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Anon probably meant rear deltoid fly.
        You're the actual retard for not immediately recognising what he meant.

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Obviously his max bench isn't high enough.
    Would love to see that guy try to put picrel in a chokehold.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Your pic rel doesn't even bench. Strongmen only care about vertical presses.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Shaw does bench for accessory work.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >bench aint vertical
        turbomoron

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      He is 0.01 percent of humans, you can’t lift to get this big

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Watch me

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Poirier absolutely destroyed eddie hall

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, I practice shooting.

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's this thread again
    First of all most guys you are getting in a fight with don't know martial arts so your strength isn't useless
    Secondly most weak martial artists are gonna get beat up if you are way stronger
    kys OP fag I'd rather lift

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      This

      Size and strength matters way more than skill in martial arts most of the time.

      Also unless you're constantly getting into fights you're time is better spent in the gym than a dojo.

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    What sucks about martial arts is that they usually don't teach you "dishonorable" moves.
    Eye pokes, back-of-neck punches, throat punches, groin kicks, and bites; are all absolutely based in a self-defense situation. Yet martial arts condition you not to use the best moves.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      martial arts and mma is literally for homosexuals. none of that shit applies to real life except takedowns and the occasional successful strike

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        The occasional successful strike? Do you know how fucking retarded you are? If someone is a highly skilled striker, they are going to light you up and you won't be able to dodge or hit them back worth shit.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      You are essentially wrong.

      You are right to the extent, that if you go to a boxing gym, there will never be like an eye poke day in class. If you go into a karate class, there probably wont ever be a "groin kick" day.

      And yet, you will learn how to kick and punch at places like that. And being able to kick is a skill that is greatly translatable to kicking someone in the groin. Being able to punch is greatly transferable to eye pokes and punches to the neck.

      Places that teach dishonorable stuff explicitly, are actually super crappy martial arts places where you wont actually learn anything at all. A place that teaches eye pokes, will not effectively teach you how to eye poke. A place that teaches groin kicks will not effectively teach you groin kicks. This is because no school is going to have students practice kicking each other in the groin, or poking each other in the eye. The closest you'll get is a dumb mannequin training session where one guy stands there motionlessly while the other unskilled student pretends to do badass moves on hiim. You won't learn anything this way.

      tl;dr to do dishonorable moves you just need to practice regular moves

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        You're a lot kinder than me. I would not waste so much time on such a stupid reply

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    *Pepper sprays you*
    *kicks the shit out of you*
    lmao nice "martial arts" you got there

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      You are either a gay or a woman

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Wait, no! You are NOT ALLOWED to do that according to the rules!!!

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pepper spray is just that good, fag.
        I'm not gonna get dirty just because I insulted your bitch and your ego took a hit, I'm just pepper spraying you until you scream like a boar and then sucker punch you.
        If you wanna fight out in the streets, better learn the way of the streets lmao.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Have you ever thought that taking pepper spray out of your pocket takes time and if you havent done it 100 times before under pressure, you´re actually gonna freeze or rather get your arms up to defend instead of managing to take it out of your pocket? Especially if you have it well sealed with zipper. Zippers dont always work if you drag them violently in hurry.

          >Time it takes for him to sucker punch you from 1 meter vs. time it takes to open a pocket, pull arms up and press OC spray´s button.

  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >bouldering chad grip strength
    >pinch grip through the muscles in his arms
    You are crabmaxxing aren't you anon?

  11. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >*headbutt his chin*
    >*elbow his spine*
    >*back up multiple times against a wall or strong posts/sharp objects nearby*

    This is why UFC gay hugging sucks.
    At least McGregor kept it real by man to man punching bouts

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >At least McGregor kept it real by man to man punching bouts
      kek

  12. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Felonious (D felony) aggravated assault

    My muscles deter skelly fags from even talking shit.

  13. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Martial artist/Prison officer here.
    Having fought 280lb monsters, 240lb steroid abusers and 140lb crack heads I can tell you that:
    >Weight classes are a thing and MUST be respected otherwise you're going to get hurt
    >Muscle doesn't mean you will necessarily punch harder, most of it is down to form
    >Many martial arts are bullshit and half of the clubs out there don't offer real contact sparring
    >You're not going to do BJJ fighting someone in a pub, that's a short cut to getting your head stamped on by their friends
    >Rear naked choke holds require proper form (grabbing your own shoulder, breathing in to expand your chest, closing the gap with your outer arm) and many people can't apply them properly and will squeeze your chin which is kind of funny when it happens to you

    For anyone who thinks they can think critically when they are being choked out: you're either full of shit or haven't ever had a fight in your life, the blood circulation to your brain is being restricted and you go into full panic mode

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is boxing good for self defense? I don’t want that much brain damage

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Is boxing good for self defense? I don’t want that much brain damage
        Knowing how to throw a punch and having the self confidence (target hardening) will do wonders, but don't let it blow your head up thinking you have free reign of shitty places because you aren't invincible.
        There's no such thing as a fair fight out and about, but the average scrote fancies themselves as capable in a punch up, generally when you throw a punch and they see you know what you're doing they will change their mind.
        Anywhere you do physical conditioning and sparring will give you a fantastic foundation, knowing the signs of aggression and when scrotes are testing you also helps.

        >For anyone who thinks they can think critically when they are being choked out: you're either full of shit or haven't ever had a fight in your life, the blood circulation to your brain is being restricted and you go into full panic mode
        Cringe. Most people will panic for the most shitty reasons, but Anons able to hold their rational thinking under a semi-car crash which could end up in death, or able to find non-obvious scape routes in shooting sprees, can also keep their cool under a chokehold to properly fihht for their life, assuming they have the means to.

        Not everyone is a panic-prone NPC (I'd dare to say that in ancient times MOST men weren't either)

        You're wrong and stupid, there's a difference between adrenaline response fuelling an escape and your brain going into panic losing blood flow, please go to a BJJ club and ask to experience being choked out then tell me if you aren't a "panic-prone MPC"

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >please go to a BJJ club and ask to experience being choked out then tell me if you aren't a "panic-prone MPC"
          Guy holds me in a rear choke
          I'm very aware of what's going on
          I rationally do everything in my power to properly scape
          My technique isn't sufficient and I pass out anyway
          >hUrR dUrR hE pAniCkEd LiKe eVeRyOnE

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm going to bite again
            In MMA you're pretty fucked once the hold is locked in, you can tuck your chin in and try to stop them getting their arm under your chin/around your neck, but there's no magic situational awareness when you're being strangled. Your brain instinctively protects itself which is why the flinch response makes you lower your body and head while raising your arms, it goes into panic mode when blood flow is restricted (a good choke hold stops the blood flow, not the breathing) and you aren't going to think much at all, which is why MMA/BJJ train to not be choked rather than whatever you imagine yourself or ancient men to be like.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >scrote
          Imagine taking advice on fighting from a woman

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        know little boxing >>>>>>>>> no anything but can run >> mcdojo stancing

        you don't have to go amateur or pro when taking on boxing classes. you can just learn the basics, hit the bags, and do mitts if you want. though having a few sparring sessions every now and then would tremendously help you by giving you the feels of the whats and hows of boxing.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Boxing teaches you the fundamentals of fighting, like footwork and head movement, distance management, energy management, (and some, some, standing grappling and clenching, like guard manipulation and hand trapping) and it teaches you this in a simplified way with a gradual skill curve.

        Though its has holes. Actual boxers in fights 'exploit' the ref to brake up clenches and to forbit certain strikes. you can't do this for self defence obviously. also, no kicking, knees and elbows and grappling on the ground, the last of which is incredibly important for self defence. Even still, everything you learn in boxing will always be useful, you just have to build on it to fill the gaps. Unlike taekwondo for example, where a lot you learn is not useful when you're not fighting another taekwondo fighter, or worse case, they're bad habits.

        I would recommend starting out with boxing for some peroid, and then also learning the basics of a kicking sport (Muay Thai, or kick boxing. Muay Thai is better but either is good, do whichever you like more), and also learn the basics for some sort of grappling/wrestling, (Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and/or wrestling). if you do this you're already a well rounded fighter, more than sufficient for self defence. I would then continue to train what you find the most enjoyable or what you're good at.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          it seems difficult training in 3 different gyms, how about just sticking to mma?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            you can train all 3 in an mma gym, either separately or as specifically mma, thats what makes it an mma gym.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >For anyone who thinks they can think critically when they are being choked out: you're either full of shit or haven't ever had a fight in your life, the blood circulation to your brain is being restricted and you go into full panic mode
      Cringe. Most people will panic for the most shitty reasons, but Anons able to hold their rational thinking under a semi-car crash which could end up in death, or able to find non-obvious scape routes in shooting sprees, can also keep their cool under a chokehold to properly fihht for their life, assuming they have the means to.

      Not everyone is a panic-prone NPC (I'd dare to say that in ancient times MOST men weren't either)

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >having your blood flow cut off to your brain
        >I, like most actual men, can still think critically during that
        Fucking retard

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          There's literally nothing blood restriction does to tour brain in the first few seconds. That's why science calls it "useful consciousness window", which is the time your brain can function properly even with complete carotid blood flow stop, atmosphere decompression, or other conditions of rapid (but not instant) loss of consciousness.

          Of course once everything turns black and hearing gets muffled, you're screwed. But NPCs will panic several seconds before that.

          You said PANIC, which implies the guy is flailing around or doing some useless shit WITHIN his useful consciousness window. If a man knows what he's doing (and his available means are solid - a great BJJ technique, or a readily drawable knife or gun), he WILL react before passing out.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >please go to a BJJ club and ask to experience being choked out then tell me if you aren't a "panic-prone MPC"
            Guy holds me in a rear choke
            I'm very aware of what's going on
            I rationally do everything in my power to properly scape
            My technique isn't sufficient and I pass out anyway
            >hUrR dUrR hE pAniCkEd LiKe eVeRyOnE

            >t. some who’s never been choked out

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              I literally have, just not rear choke.
              >be me
              >14 yo
              >skinny dyel
              >literally zero wrestling skills
              >15 yo strong-for-his-age guy gets pissed at me for some reason
              >holds me by the neck, 2 hands, fingers in both carotid arteries
              >I uselessly try to ease his choke for like 1 second
              >quickly realise I'm outmatched
              >remember this "lift left arm, pass ove his grip, and force down" technique
              >promptly do it in an explosive motion (so my skinny dyel strength has an actual chance)
              >it works
              >I'm out of his front chokehold within 2-3 seconds
              >he gets a little impressed but still proceeds to intimidade me
              >I'm in silence waiting for his next move so I can react properly
              >he just leaves
              >I'm relieved he left
              I lost that one, but didn't lose my consciousness because I DIDN'T FUCKING PANIC
              And I was just 14 mind you.
              I think you guys have an impressive lack of resolve

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I think you guys have an impressive lack of resolve
                I don't think you understand the difference between someone grabbing your neck and actually being choked. You did panic because you got the explosive movement in.
                Your lack of understanding and getting out of a situation where someone wanted to bully you (not choke you unconscious) doesn't make you an expert on the topic, if you were having your arteries squashed like you seem to think you did. you'd have a different response.
                I'm going to stop responding to your posts now, like my parents told me: you can't help stupid.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't think you understand the difference between someone grabbing your neck
                >T. ILLITERATE
                He
                was
                pressing
                my
                carotids
                you fucking illiterate.
                He wanted me to pass out. The guy was a psycho. When he got older he actually got jailtime from what I've heard.

                Learn to read.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >he was choking me
                >was using his hands
                Lol
                Lmao
                You weren’t in a chokehold you retarded bitch.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                When you're a 14 yo boy and some much stronger dude is using his hands to press on your carotids and airways, I'm pretty sure you feel like getting choked. I could explain to you, anatomically, why I would've passed out if I hadn't kept my cool and uselessly just flailed around in panic, but I don't think you have the brain capacity to understand anatomy.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                if I hadn't kept my cool and uselessly just flailed around in panic instead*

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >still trying to compare being choked with someone’s hands to an actual chokehold
                The fact you got out of it means it wasn’t comparable to a chokehold if he was much stronger. Go be a retard somewhere else

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >guys, you totally panick when you're on a rear chokehold, it's INEVITABLE... brain lacking blood and shiet
                >guys, you totally DO NOT panick when you're being choked with someone's hands, even when blood is cut off your brain... it's a different blood cut off and shiet

                And I am the retard one.
                Seriously, pay pal me and I'll teach you about human anatomy and physiology. You're in DESPERATE need of education.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm neither of those people but comparing strangling with hands to something like a rear naked choke is retarded, with a properly executed choke that utilizes an entire limb your lights can go out before you even know there is a problem. You really just need to take the L on this one my dude.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Please, explain it to me, anatomically and physiologically, why the lack of bloodflow to the brain caused by a proper rear chokehold always puts the victim in panic, but the lack of bloodflow to the brain caused by a proper hand choke on a vulnerable victim (more strength, no good technique, etc, like many victims that have been killed this way throughout history) does not.

                Notice I NEVER mentioned efficacy of technique or why it's much harder to break free from a rear chokehold. I've been talking about the psychological factor of "panic" from the beginning.

                Please explain to me why one does always put the victim in panic mode and the other does not.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                You’re going to get for force output using your entire limp over just your grip. When you lose oxygen to your brain, you start to uncontrollably panic because your most important organ is getting it’s blood flow(and oxygen) cut off. However, you’re a retarded moron brain who equates having someone try to bully you with someone trying to choke you out.

                >No one has ever been killed by a hand choke
                Go fuck yourself, you're trolling. You can't be actually THIS much of an imbecile.

                Imagine being so much of an effeminate gay that you compare hand choking to a chokehold

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Dude, if you're really arguing that one can't cut the blood flow to the brain from a hand choke by pressing on the carotids, denying the hundreds of thousands of victims who have been killed exactly that way (not to mention the ones killed purely by suffocation, but that's another story), I really don't know what to tell you.

                Do you actually believe all the victims of hand chokes that resulted in carotid collapse are fake news?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                You weren’t having your blood flow cut off you fucking retard. It’s possible, but a chokehold is orders of magnitudes worst than being hand choked. The fact you believe that you could keep yourself under control while having your brain starved of oxygen shows you have zero understanding of anatomy

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Please, just try it yourself, you demented fool.
                Sit on your bed so you don't hurt yourself falling.
                Hold your neck as strong as you can, pressing on your own carotids with all your strenght.
                Also, contract the muscles of your neck to counteract the force.
                If you're not out in 20 seconds, you are confirmed to have female/twink hands.
                9 times out of 10 you're SUPPOSED to make someone pass out from a hand choke, unless the person escapes.

                Seriously dude, stop embarassing yourself and try it.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >t. someone trying to act hard on a Mongolian basket weaving forum
                We get it, you one upped your bully and you think you’re tough shit.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >>t. someone trying to act hard on a Mongolian basket weaving forum
                >because I'm telling the guy to hand choke himself pressing on his carotids so he educates himself on the fact that hand chokes can easily cut off the blood flow to the brain
                ??

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >calling others gays for not acting stoic while being choked
                >was never actually choked before
                Lmao

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                you are legitimately retarded if you can't understand how a HAND can exert the same amount of pressure on your carotids as a properly executed chokehold. a good choke engages the lats to put more pressure and thus cut off blood flow faster. I promise you there are blood chokes that will black you out before you even notice what's happening to you. go do a lat pulldown while cheating by putting your entire body into it (like a rear naked choke) and tell me how it compares to you grip strength.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >HAND can exert the same amount of pressure on your carotids
                You literally just have to exert force enough (in a small enough spot) to overcome ~140mmHg. Extra force doesn't quite matter.

                >there are blood chokes that will black you out before you even notice what's happening to you
                >You always JUST PANIC due to (blood flow/CO2) from chokeholds
                >before you even notice what's happening
                Which is it?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I didn't say every choke makes you immediately black out, I just said there are chokes that can do that. you can defend a choke calmly if it hasn't fully set in yet, like you did to a teenager because it was a FUCKING HAND CHOKE. if you are in a rear naked choke against a guy who knows what he's doing, you aren't getting out. once the choke starts to set in, you will "panic" as a last resort because you know that escape isn't going to happen by technique.

                the fact that you think you know what you're talking about it is embarrassing. even a white belt in BJJ within a couple months of training has probably been choked out 100s of times. please go spar with a black belt and calmly defend their chokes as your consciousness slips away.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >even a white belt in BJJ within a couple months of training has probably been choked out 100s of times
                How do they not get PTSD from that???

                Imagine PANICKING 100 times while still being a white belt.
                You do know that putting a person in PANIC that often will unavoidably cause psychological damage, right? You do know that, right Anon?

                I mean, you're not implying those white belts get choked out without panicking, are you?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I've been doing BJJ for a few months now and nobody gets choked out
                But i'm in a first world country

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I bet the instructor buyed into the "PANIC" meme and doesn't want to induce PTSD on the students.
                Or, well, he could be concerned about someone holding too tight for too long and causing physiological damage to someone's brain, idk.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >even a white belt in BJJ within a couple months of training has probably been choked out 100s of times
                How do they not get PTSD from that???

                Imagine PANICKING 100 times while still being a white belt.
                You do know that putting a person in PANIC that often will unavoidably cause psychological damage, right? You do know that, right Anon?

                I mean, you're not implying those white belts get choked out without panicking, are you?

                let me correct that, i don't mean they literally lose consciousness (although this does happen because some chokes come on so fast you don't realize it, as I said) but they fully feel the effects of the choke and begin to lose consciousness then tap out.

                >even a white belt in BJJ within a couple months of training has probably been choked out 100s of times
                How do they not get PTSD from that???

                Imagine PANICKING 100 times while still being a white belt.
                You do know that putting a person in PANIC that often will unavoidably cause psychological damage, right? You do know that, right Anon?

                I mean, you're not implying those white belts get choked out without panicking, are you?

                I don't know why you're focusing on "PANIC" when the main point is that you aren't going to escape a well-executed, fully locked-in chokehold (not a hand choke) ESPECIALLY if you don't train. you may panic, or calmly lose consciousness, it doesn't matter. you also clearly haven't felt the helplessness of having a person take your back. you cannot hit them, you cannot stab them, you cannot poke their eyes. if they want, they can roll you onto your stomach and shove your face into the ground. a good grappler can even trap your arms under their legs leaving you completely defenseless. you would know this if you trained BJJ/MMA instead of pretending you know what you're talking about because you got out of a teenager's hand choke.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >when the main point is that you aren't going to escape a well-executed
                No, this has never being "muh main point". I actually said exactly this SEVERAL times:

                >For anyone who thinks they can think critically when they are being choked out: you're either full of shit or haven't ever had a fight in your life, the blood circulation to your brain is being restricted and you go into full panic mode
                Cringe. Most people will panic for the most shitty reasons, but Anons able to hold their rational thinking under a semi-car crash which could end up in death, or able to find non-obvious scape routes in shooting sprees, can also keep their cool under a chokehold to properly fihht for their life, assuming they have the means to.

                Not everyone is a panic-prone NPC (I'd dare to say that in ancient times MOST men weren't either)

                >please go to a BJJ club and ask to experience being choked out then tell me if you aren't a "panic-prone MPC"
                Guy holds me in a rear choke
                I'm very aware of what's going on
                I rationally do everything in my power to properly scape
                My technique isn't sufficient and I pass out anyway
                >hUrR dUrR hE pAniCkEd LiKe eVeRyOnE

                >I've put someone to sleep in 6 seconds
                Wow, there's nothing a man can do in 6 seconds, right? I mean, it's Dungeons and Dragons, if you miss your 6 seconds turn then there's nothing you can do for a whole next 6 seconds
                >he clawed the fuck out of my arm trying to pull my arm away the first few seconds.
                If he panicked, he doesn't have the mental resolve for being in martial arts in the first place.
                But the way you're describing it, I understand he tried a proper escape technique during those 6 seconds, but he wasn't good enough so he lost. How does "panic" fit into that?

                Please, explain it to me, anatomically and physiologically, why the lack of bloodflow to the brain caused by a proper rear chokehold always puts the victim in panic, but the lack of bloodflow to the brain caused by a proper hand choke on a vulnerable victim (more strength, no good technique, etc, like many victims that have been killed this way throughout history) does not.

                Notice I NEVER mentioned efficacy of technique or why it's much harder to break free from a rear chokehold. I've been talking about the psychological factor of "panic" from the beginning.

                Please explain to me why one does always put the victim in panic mode and the other does not.

                etc.
                Rear chokeholds are hard to break. You may very well keep your cool, do everything you rationally can, and still pass out because you couldn't physically break free on time.
                I literally said this several times.

                My point has always been if you DO have the means to break free (great technique, weapon within reach, etc), you most likely will, unless you're a pussy that panicks under stress. You CAN stab them if you have a knife.

                But here you are doubling down on your stupidity, lying about what I actually said, and saying that a "hand choke doesn't count" in terms of inducing panic due to lack of blood flow to the brain.... to the point of ridiculously claiming over and over again that hand chokes aren't capable of QUICKLY killing someone due to carotid compression despite being way, way easier to escape than rear chokeholds.

                The other Anon literally posted a MMA figher (one of many) that got choked, kept his cool, rationally realised it was over and tapped out. Others yet still fight to the last second, not PANICKING, but rationally trying to find their way out of the hold in time, failing, and passing out.

                A PUSSY (yes, you guys are MASSIVE PUSSIES for trying to psyop people into thinking "muh chokehold panic, over") in my teenager situation would've panicked, because that's what pussies do when someone is seemingly trying to kill them (today I don't think he would've killed me, but he definitely wanted to black me out).
                Non-pussies, like myself, will think rationally and find their way out of a hand choke. Non-pussies, like myself, will think rationally and look for a way out of a rear chokehold, most likely fail (because it's much, much harder to break free), and lose. But non-pussies won't "panick".

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Please, explain it to me, anatomically and physiologically, why the lack of bloodflow to the brain caused by a proper rear chokehold always puts the victim in panic, but the lack of bloodflow to the brain caused by a proper hand choke
                Because the moment your lizard brain realises you are losing consciousness you will not have the presence of mind to do anything else. There's no such thing as a "proper hand choke". Your neck has giveand your heart can pump really fucking hard, there's not enough force to fully restrict the blood flow to the brain. If it was a rear naked then all the grip strength that would otherwise be the entirety of the "choke" would be concentrated on simply torquing one's own arm to sink the choke in deeper, alongside all the arm and upper body strength being added to the mix.

                You are talking about a level of pressure that is weaker by orders of magnitude. You wouldn't get lightheaded. You wouldn't revert to being the glorified hairless monkey we all are. You remained calm because at no point was your brain starved of oxygen so you were in total control.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                You’re going to get for force output using your entire limp over just your grip. When you lose oxygen to your brain, you start to uncontrollably panic because your most important organ is getting it’s blood flow(and oxygen) cut off. However, you’re a retarded moron brain who equates having someone try to bully you with someone trying to choke you out.
                [...]
                Imagine being so much of an effeminate gay that you compare hand choking to a chokehold

                Allright, you guys are really talking out of your asses here and have zero understanding of human anatomy LMAO
                >orders of magnitude
                Hahahahahaha
                Seriously, I wish I could have the chance to tie you guys up in a chair or something..... I would gladly press your carotids with my fingers until you died just to prove you wrong. I know, scientifically, that not everyone automatically panics when blood flow is cut from the brain, but you guys certainly would. And that would be so amusing.
                "Orders of magnitude" LMAO

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >being so much of a bitch you think a hand choke is as effective as a rear naked chokehold
                You have to be baiting

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                so much of a bitch you think a hand choke is as effective as a rear naked chokehold
                Good thing I never said that, you dishonest piece of shit.
                I said a hand choke, particularly from someone much stronger, can EASILY cut off the blood flow to your brain.
                A chokehold can do the same even when you're weaker than your victim, and is much harder to escape. But but can render a victim unconscious in a few seconds, if the carotids collapse.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                But both*

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cool. I’ve been hand choked in fights during football and they’ve never had me anywhere near blacking out. You think you’re tough shit because you got out of a hand choke, but if he would’ve had you in a chokehold, you wouldn’t have escaped it. Also, if he had been cutting off blood to your vein, you wouldn’t have acted cool as a 14 year old. Quit being a gay

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                *cut of blood to your brain

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You think you’re tough shit because you got out of a hand choke
                No, hand chokes are much easier to get out of.
                But if you don't, you pass out, just like a rear chokehold.
                And if they keep pressing, you die, just like a rear chokehold.

                My whole point is that only you gays "panic" because you feel something tight on your little necks. I can very well endure a rear chokehold without panicking, try to escape, fail, pass out and die without ever having panicked like a pussy.... because rear chokeholds are damn efficient and deadly.

                There's a reason actual men pass out in controlled fights that involve chokeholds.... they DON'T panic, they try to get off the choke and turn the tables, but they fail and black out without ever panicking.... or they rationally realise they won't be able to escape and calmly tap out before they lose consciousness. Because they're not panicky gays, they know the absolute power of chokeholds and try to act accordingly before everything turns black. The exact same as I did, except I had an actual shot at escaping because hand chokes are much easier to escape from.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >never been actually choked before
                >this is how you should act if you’re choked
                No one flails around in a rear naked choke. Also, you can’t tap out of a street fight you absolute retard.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Also, you can’t tap out of a street fight you absolute retard.
                So chokeholds ALWAYS put you in panic mode due to lack of bloodflow (or, like the other idiot fabricated, "excess CO2")..... but the lack of bloodflow from rear chokes on controlled fights do NOT elict panic?
                Explain, please... because it's getting more and more clear that you're fabricating excuses to why you guys are such pussies.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                You do realize the longer you go without breathing, the more CO2 levels grow because you’re not getting more oxygen to level it out? Once your blood flow to your brain stops, you’re going to have a higher chance of panicking. You cannot understand that concept for some reason

                >Also, you can’t tap out of a street fight you absolute retard.
                Actually can. MMA has saturated the popular consciousness such that if a guy thinks he's won, and thinks you won't keep fighting, he may actually respect the tap.

                >Actually can. MMA has saturated the popular consciousness such that if a guy thinks he's won, and thinks you won't keep fighting, he may actually respect the tap
                MY FUCKING SIDES
                You’ve never been in a fight or choked. Shut the fuck up, retard

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I get it now.

                On top of being mentally pussies, you guys are BJJ practicioners (most likely begginners to intermediate), so you want to PSYOP Anons into thinking they're SUPPOSED to panic and do nothing useful when being held on a chokehold, thus not stabbing you in the neck like they could.
                You want to induce the equivalent of the FIBS effect from gunfights that Hollywood ingrained into normie's brains.

                That's why you insist in asinine points like "CO2 from chokeholds just build up much faster", "ischemia from chokeholds is different from ischemia from hand chokes", or the worse so far, "ischemia from street fight chokeholds induce panic but ischemia from controlled fight chokeholds don't".

                I'm sorry not everyone is such a weak minded pussy as you guys are. You should practice getting rear choked over and over again in your gyms until you get rid of that phobia and can actually perform like men under stress.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don’t even do BJJ you absolute mongoloid. You think having someone have their hands on your neck = choking. You’ve never been in a fight, or even been actually choked

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Also, you can’t tap out of a street fight you absolute retard.
                Actually can. MMA has saturated the popular consciousness such that if a guy thinks he's won, and thinks you won't keep fighting, he may actually respect the tap.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >slowly slipping into troll mode in order to pretend it was his goal all along
                Seriously though:
                >press your carotids with my fingers until you died
                Yeah, it'd eventually work. But so would punching someone in the stomach if you did it long enough, but that doesn't put getting punched in the stomach in the same league as getting a gutful of buckshot. Three seconds of having someone squeeze your neck with their hands will do literally nothing, where as three seconds of a guillotine will have your life flashing before your eyes. You were not choked in any real sense of the word and have a deluded idea of how much direct control you'd have over your natural instincts if you were. Anyway, take care and seek help for your anger issues and inability to concede basic points when it's obvious you're in over your head.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Yeah, it'd eventually work.
                Yes, my bet is within 10 seconds, you imbecile.
                Imagine comparing hand chokes to punches and chokeholds to 12 caliber shotguns LMAO

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Having high levels of carbon dioxide in your blood is what makes you panic. It is not low oxygen at all, that's why people can kill themselves peacefully by inhaling some other inert gas like nitrogen or whatever. When you're choked from the sides of your throat, you can still breath its just that blood isn't flowing through into your brain. If you're being coked that you can't breath either, then the co2 levels in your blood increases causing you to panic.

                also hand chokes are stupid lol.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh wow, so you accelerate the production of CO2 by 20 fold when you do a chokehold?
                I could swear it would be the same as holding your breath (you know, on top of the blood flow cut off). I didn't know chokeholds accelerated your carbon dioxide production many times. You should try for a Nobel Prize, my friend!

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                you are still breathing, you're getting rid of carbon dioxide. Your brain is deprived of oxygen that doesn't mean your CO2 levels are rising. I understand its a nuance that stupid people can't pick up on, but I'm right regardless if you understand or not 😀

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, don't hold your breath for 10 seconds or more, or you might suffer a PANIC ATTACK!!!

                I'm being generous with the 10 seconds, the other BJJ beginner put his friend to sleep in 6 seconds, and apparently he panicked... So never hold your breath longer than 6 seconds

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                You choke out in a matter of seconds from a choke hold because blood can't flow through your brain. You can hold your breath for an extended time because there is oxygen in in your blood and can flow into your brain to replenish it, eventually all that oxygen in your blood will also be expended then you will have to breath

                once again you're showing your low IQ, you don't understand anything 😀 LOL

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >thinks breathing = blood flow to the brain while being choked out
                Lmao

                So which is it, psyop guys?

                Do you panick in 6 seconds due to CO2 build up?

                Or do you panick within 6 seconds due to blood not flowing to the brain?

                Which is it, by guys?
                Come on, you're on the same side, at least agree on the psyop.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >can’t differentiate between chokes that cut off blood flow or air flow
                >thinks we’re fucking with him
                Yep, it’s a moron brained retard

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Can't agree on the contradictory psyops
                Sorry, pussy. Your chokehold FIBS (FIBCH?) won't work on real men, even though your chokeholds might... unless they're carrying.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Bad b8 m8

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Fancy way to say you lost 😀
                Don't try to chokehold a man that you aren't sure isn't carrying, Anon, or that is an actual pro. For your own good.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >has to bring up carrying
                Sorry anon, you’ve never actually been in a fight or choked. Also, according to you, you shouldn’t shoot them since they aren’t willing to continue that fight

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >>has to bring up carrying
                >NOOOO, you can't get rid of a rear chokehold by shooting/stabbing me, you're supposed to JUST PANICK
                Also
                >according to you, you shouldn’t shoot them since they aren’t willing to continue that fight
                Never said that you dishonest POS

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                See

                >Also, you can’t tap out of a street fight you absolute retard.
                Actually can. MMA has saturated the popular consciousness such that if a guy thinks he's won, and thinks you won't keep fighting, he may actually respect the tap.

                You absolute fucking retard. You contradict yourself, lying gay. You’ve never been punched or choked. Also, being choked isn’t like drowning

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                wat

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Also, being choked isn’t like drowning
                >Because choking cuts off the blood flow
                >But what REALLY makes you panick is CO2 build up
                >And that explains why you don't panic with a hand choke (blood flow), and also don't panic with drowning (CO2 build up)
                Right LMAO

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                you are a retard to get choked when you have a gun

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well, he can’t shoot them since according to the retard, you can always tap out of a street fight

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you are a retard to get choked when you have a gun
                Or I'm a guy who carries minding my own business until I get sneaked on by some retarded on IST who thinks he can choke me to death without a real fight because I'll just PANICK.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >doesn’t know the 21 ft rule

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Dude, there's no 21 ft rule if the guy sneaks from your back (on a noisy enviroment that is).

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Do you panick in 6 seconds due to CO2 build up?
                this

                >Or do you panick within 6 seconds due to blood not flowing to the brain?
                not this, this is what literally everyone has been saying.

                You can literally die from a lack of oxygen to the brain without even realising you're being choked out, let alone panicking. "lack of oxygen" in the brain is perceptually non existent, you just pass out. Its called Inert gas asphyxiation.

                If some one is struggling during a choke out, its not because of some reflex or that they're panicking, its because they're trying to get out of the choke out it that isn't obvious lol.

                the fear of 'carbon dioxide' or whatever is a natural reflex and is well documented.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >natural reflex and is well documented
                hypercapnic alarm response is what that's called.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >this
                Imagine actually believing 6 seconds of apnea can send a non-pussified man into panic mode. LMFAO

                I've actually near drowned quite a few times, Anon, because I just love the ocean and sometimes I take risks. The one thing I learned from a young age is that, even when the thirst for air kicks in (after several dozen seconds, not fucking 6), your only chances are
                >not panic
                >trust the lifeguard to save you before you drown
                Except I don't trust the lifeguards.
                Imagine panicking in 6 seconds LMAO. This has to stem from some sort of phobia, I don't know a single individual who would panic from such a short apnea time.

                Again, your FIBCH won't work with many guys IRL. If you plan to choke guys, have a failproof technique so he won't break free and make sure he doesn't have a weapon. He won't panic, he will destroy you if he physically gets the chance.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >near drowned quite a few times
                never be me because I'm not retarded

                >FIBCH
                what? you have brain dammage?

                >Do you panick in 6 seconds due to CO2 build up?
                that was your wording, I was only referring to the hypercapnic alarm response, it would take longer than six seconds maybe 3 minutes (not several dozen seconds like a fatass) if you have good cardiovascular health. I didn't bother to correct you, because once again I thought you would have the minimum IQ threshold of 85 to understand a understand a point without tripping over your retarded wording.

                your posts are like 10 for 10 for being braindead :DD

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >He doesn't know what the FIBS effect in gunfights mean.
                LMAO
                Also
                >It would take longer (3 minutes) for hypercapnic panic to kick in
                >when you're CHOKED, hypercapnic panic kicks in within the choking time (often within 19 seconds)
                Which is it?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                within 10 seconds*

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It would take longer (3 minutes [or any less for fatties]) for hypercapnic panic to kick in
                This if you can't breath and CO2 is building up in your blood

                >when you're CHOKED, hypercapnic panic kicks in within the choking time (often within [10] seconds)
                if its a blood choke aka rear choke, hypercapnic panic doesn't kick in altogether like it wouldn't during inert gas asphyxiation.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inert_gas_asphyxiation#Process (abbreviated)
                >when breathing... in an physiologically inert gas, they exhale carbon dioxide without re-supplying oxygen... Accordingly, the human subject detects little abnormal sensation as the oxygen level falls. This leads to asphyxiation without the painful and traumatic feeling of suffocation (the hypercapnic alarm response, which in humans arises mostly from carbon dioxide levels rising)... By contrast, suddenly breathing pure inert gas causes oxygen levels in the blood to fall precipitously, and may lead to unconsciousness in only a few breaths, with no symptoms at all.

                blood chokes let you breath while oxygen is is being restricted from your brain, it functions identically to inert gas asphyxiation.

                that being said hand chokes are pretty useless on anyone besides women, and men that are just as strong as women, they don't train or attempt them in mma or any grappling/wrestling sport where those fighting back are competent.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Dude, stop being demented and read what you post.

                Inert gas asphyxiation = you breathe out CO2, don't breathe Oxygen, don't feel it, die without warning (or panic)

                You:
                >blood chokes let you breath while oxygen is is being restricted from your brain, it functions identically to inert gas asphyxiation.

                Now, I know you are completely retarded, but read it again, SLOWLY.

                Your words:
                >blood choke = inert gas asphyxiation
                Your wikipedia link:
                >inert gas asphyxiation does NOT cause feeling of suffocation

                Do you understand this speaks AGAINST the theory that "rear chokes makes you panic because of CO2 build up" ?

                Yeah, I figured you STILL wouldn't understand it.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Do you understand this speaks AGAINST the theory that "rear chokes makes you panic because of CO2 build up" ?
                Yes I've been speaking against that theory, that is my point.

                I said that first here

                Having high levels of carbon dioxide in your blood is what makes you panic. It is not low oxygen at all, that's why people can kill themselves peacefully by inhaling some other inert gas like nitrogen or whatever. When you're choked from the sides of your throat, you can still breath its just that blood isn't flowing through into your brain. If you're being coked that you can't breath either, then the co2 levels in your blood increases causing you to panic.

                also hand chokes are stupid lol.

                and

                >why the lack of bloodflow to the brain caused by a proper rear chokehold always puts the victim in panic, but the lack of bloodflow to the brain caused by a proper hand choke on a vulnerable victim
                I forgot it in [...] the other way around

                I've was arguing against

                Please, explain it to me, anatomically and physiologically, why the lack of bloodflow to the brain caused by a proper rear chokehold always puts the victim in panic, but the lack of bloodflow to the brain caused by a proper hand choke on a vulnerable victim (more strength, no good technique, etc, like many victims that have been killed this way throughout history) does not.

                Notice I NEVER mentioned efficacy of technique or why it's much harder to break free from a rear chokehold. I've been talking about the psychological factor of "panic" from the beginning.

                Please explain to me why one does always put the victim in panic mode and the other does not.

                this statement
                >anatomically and physiologically, why the lack of bloodflow to the brain caused by a proper rear chokehold always puts the victim... in panic, but the lack of bloodflow to the brain caused by a proper hand choke on a vulnerable victim does not.

                hence

                >why the lack of bloodflow to the brain caused by a proper rear chokehold always puts the victim in panic, but the lack of bloodflow to the brain caused by a proper hand choke on a vulnerable victim
                I forgot it in [...] the other way around

                >[its] the other way around

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Specifically I'm saying its not the lack of blood going to the brain caused by a hand choke that causes panic, but the blocking of air ways that can co occur during a hand choke, that that is maintained for long enough without the person passing out to be awake for hypercapnic panic, maybe 30 seconds in for a gassed out person, if the chokehold bloodwork wise isn't sufficient enough.

                Having high levels of carbon dioxide in your blood is what makes you panic. It is not low oxygen at all, that's why people can kill themselves peacefully by inhaling some other inert gas like nitrogen or whatever. When you're choked from the sides of your throat, you can still breath its just that blood isn't flowing through into your brain. If you're being coked that you can't breath either, then the co2 levels in your blood increases causing you to panic.

                also hand chokes are stupid lol.

                >If you're being [choked where] you can't breath either, then the co2 levels in your blood increases causing you to panic.

                Really every board needs id numbers, theads become shit way to easily.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >thinks breathing = blood flow to the brain while being choked out
                Lmao

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                no dummy
                i have 10s of hours training back control in bjj, 100s of hours in bjj. not all blood chokes make you panic. i would even say that blood chokes very rarely make you panic. very common for people to go unconscious without ever realising the choke was on
                https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=unconcious+baseball+bat+choke

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >why the lack of bloodflow to the brain caused by a proper rear chokehold always puts the victim in panic, but the lack of bloodflow to the brain caused by a proper hand choke on a vulnerable victim
                I forgot it in

                Having high levels of carbon dioxide in your blood is what makes you panic. It is not low oxygen at all, that's why people can kill themselves peacefully by inhaling some other inert gas like nitrogen or whatever. When you're choked from the sides of your throat, you can still breath its just that blood isn't flowing through into your brain. If you're being coked that you can't breath either, then the co2 levels in your blood increases causing you to panic.

                also hand chokes are stupid lol.

                the other way around

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                > guys, you totally DO NOT panick when you're being choked with someone's hands, even when blood is cut off your brain... it's a different blood cut off and shiet
                Unless the guy had gorilla hands and grip, your blood wouldn’t have been cutoff. You’ve never been put in a chokehold and your story is proof of that

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >No one has ever been killed by a hand choke
                Go fuck yourself, you're trolling. You can't be actually THIS much of an imbecile.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >And I am the retard one.
                Yup.

                Please, explain it to me, anatomically and physiologically, why the lack of bloodflow to the brain caused by a proper rear chokehold always puts the victim in panic, but the lack of bloodflow to the brain caused by a proper hand choke on a vulnerable victim (more strength, no good technique, etc, like many victims that have been killed this way throughout history) does not.

                Notice I NEVER mentioned efficacy of technique or why it's much harder to break free from a rear chokehold. I've been talking about the psychological factor of "panic" from the beginning.

                Please explain to me why one does always put the victim in panic mode and the other does not.

                I can tell by your gay syntax and the fact that you dwell on minor confrontations years after the fact that I could kill you will my bare hands.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I live in Brazil, you?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Also
                >You did panic because you got the explosive movement in.
                Actual coping retard.
                Explosion = PANIC

                LMFAO

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I repeat: you don't know shit about anything. Comparing a 2 handed choke with a rear neck hold proves it. You just don't understand shit, but since you're convinced you do, it's useless trying to explain. Go actually get choked.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Last time i got choked a bigger guy was pressing a knee against my back after judo takedown with arm drag and the knee cutted out airways for a minute. Happened on the street. People btw dont help, they´ll just start shooting some video.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >There's literally nothing blood restriction does to tour brain in the first few seconds
            I've put someone to sleep in 6 seconds, he clawed the fuck out of my arm trying to pull my arm away the first few seconds.
            Please stop responding when you don't know anything.
            Your brain detects a slight drop in blood flow and immediately panics because YOU ARE YOUR BRAIN IT'S THE ONLY ORGAN YOU CAN'T GO WITHOUT

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              >I've put someone to sleep in 6 seconds
              Wow, there's nothing a man can do in 6 seconds, right? I mean, it's Dungeons and Dragons, if you miss your 6 seconds turn then there's nothing you can do for a whole next 6 seconds
              >he clawed the fuck out of my arm trying to pull my arm away the first few seconds.
              If he panicked, he doesn't have the mental resolve for being in martial arts in the first place.
              But the way you're describing it, I understand he tried a proper escape technique during those 6 seconds, but he wasn't good enough so he lost. How does "panic" fit into that?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                He didn't try any technique, he just instinctively clawed at the arm strangling him because he was panicking.

                The more you insist on this "achkyually I would stay stone cold and magically escape with my secret technique", the stupider you sound. You're the kind of shitty little kid who doesn't understand shit about anything but still wants to explain his fanta-mma to look cool and instead looks cringeworthy to everyone. There's someone like you in every gym.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >that stupid teenage kid saing "cringe" because he thinks he looks cool and then proceeding to say something 100x cringier

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Getting chokeholds on normies is pretty easy in my experience. Like i have training but even when i didn't for years that was always my go to in fights

  14. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >thinks your martial art “skills” will make you invisible
    >gets gang beaten outside a bar after trying your gay ass moves on a guy with his group of friends

  15. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't have the money or the knee joints required.

  16. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    So what do you do if someone is choking you from behind

  17. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fighters do strength training and take steroids. The only reason why a fighter wouldn't want to be bigger is to duck under a weight class, for self defence, or non competition fighting, weight class isn't a thing thus a valid reason to be smaller.

    Bench pressing is still one of the fundamental movements to develop size and strength.

  18. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >only fights people plus or minus 3 pounds of himself

  19. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Poke eyes.
    Bite.
    Smash balls.
    Snap fingers.
    Use weapons.
    >But muh honor!
    Real life isn't the things you wished you did when you were a kid. If you have to fight you aren't doing it to prove you're the coolest kid on the playground, you're doing it to live another day. Your ego does not belong in survival situations.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Poke eyes.
      Could work
      >Bite.
      How LMAO
      >Smash balls.
      Woldn't work
      >Snap fingers.
      Cringe, wouldn't work
      >Use weapons.
      Very based

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Snapping fingers is easy as shit, they give out like twigs when you're actually committed to doing harm.

  20. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >train heavy skull crushers
    >simply reach back and rip his head off
    What now

  21. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    someone post the guy that tries to fight and gets his throat slashed in a mall
    believe it was in britainistan

  22. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I do
    The lesson from my many years of martial arts--from karate to TKD to JKD to Muay Thai to BJJ to fucking bartitsu--is that sometimes you just get fucking played moron. Violence is fundamentally chaos. It is two entities with oppositional and uncoordinated wills in qinteraction. I will do things, and my opponent will do things and we will do this without planning or coordination. You try to impose will and movement upon your opponent, but you cannot 100% guarantee success. Sometimes you fuck up, or he flows just right, and he chokes your stupid ass out. Its just the way of violence. Look at every pagan, pre-christian religion. They celebrate violence and acknowledge the twists and turns of fate in battle as being beyond your control.

    It's like medicine--you do your best to mobilize the statistics of success in your favor. You lift and get strong, to make yourself hard to wrestle with. You train cardio and you practice your drills. It's all just chance though. Violemce is best avoided, unless your worldview is such that you can die and not care. This is also helpful.

  23. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Every serious combat athlete lifts. There is no dichotomy. Every college and HS wrestler benches. Most judo guys bench. Strikers tend to be bench the least, but many -especially at the heavier weight classes- do.

  24. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    i have a secret knife and an even more secret knife
    thinking youve disarmed me will just lull you into a false sense of security
    and ill get away with it because im aboriginal

  25. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like talking about martial arts, but IST is the most basic cringe takes on everything fight related. There may be a few people here who know what they are talking about but 99% of you just say something and assume you are right and everything against your opinion is wrong

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Right, once someone holds you on a rear chokehold it's PANIC TIME, it's over even if you have the means to get out before losing consciousness, because PANIC doesn't allow you to fight.

      Sure, rear chokes are physically hard to break free (much more so than hand chokes) and will physiologically incapacitate you, but what really gets you during those 5-10 seconds of useful consciousness is the sheer, unavoidable, absolute PANIC.

      Even if you're a pro fighter who is able to break free, it's OVER, because you won't have the resolve to rationally apply your well trained technique within those seconds.

      Even if you're carrying a weapon, it's OVER, because you won't have the resolve to rationally reach for your weapon and use it within those seconds.

      If you pass out, it means you PANICKED, not that you were physically overwhelmed.
      If you somehow break free, it means you PANICKED and only used explosive motions because of your PANIC.

      I swear this is not psyop, once the guy holds your neck from behind, your brain shuts down even before it actually shuts down.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >PANIC TIME
        >OVER
        >OVER
        >PANICKED
        >PANICKED PANIC
        >your brain shuts down even before it actually shuts down

        actual spastic lmao

        don't think rear chokeholds make you panic anymore then the fact that you're about to lose and that you're defenceless.

        ?t=90
        seems pritty chill.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I was just paraphrasing the guys arguing with me.
          I completely agree with you, there's nothing special about chokeholds except for the fact that they're very physically efficient.

          Thus, a man that doesn't panic in perceived life-or-death situations also won't panic with a chokehold. A man that is already prone to panic under stress, will.

          That's been my point from the beginning.

  26. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    You making this sound like bait but i'm going to be completely unironic here. People who lift and don't know how to TRULY fight (i'm talking have real legitimate training) are absolute fucking gays
    You're worse than dyels or fat people if they at least know how to fight.

  27. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    My neck is too thick and muscular to be choked out. I can flex my neck and resist all pressure.

  28. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    How about you just don't live in a shithole so you don't have to fight anyone

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      CONFLICT WILL ALWAYS FOLLOW MAN

  29. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    you are retards and dumb dumb tread morons only good poster was the aboriginal lizard poster, with dualweilding knives. actually drown yourself, or get into a streetfight and forget to tapout or watever, fucking braindead braindammage CTE mutt thread. never going on thise website again actuall.

  30. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >"Aha! A street thug who wants to have an altercation with me? A perfect opponent! Mind you, I have a black belt in MMA garden gnome jitsu karate, so it is VERY unlikely that you will win this encounter! We can fight right here and right now, let me tell you about the rule-"

    *gets sucker punched with a pipebomb*

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      sucker my dick incel

  31. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    the moment you realize all your bjj training is useless against a guy with longer arms

  32. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >TFW I got to beat up a fat nerd legally with nobody stopping me thanks to boxing.

    God it felt so good to hit that fat lanky loser who was so shy about violence. I didnt hold back, just power shots to body. Fucking best day ever. Then I got to open a beer next to some beta poorfag begging for money next to my feet. Dominant T pose.
    I also got to beat some 18 year old kid in the ring 3 times a week for a long time, until his arm looked like a giant bruise. Good times.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >fat lanky loser
      >fat
      >lanky

      You either have a subhuman intelligence or you're LARPing, either way you're the loser here.

  33. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      me casually pissing next to the fight

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Gay men cuddling on a piss soaked floor

  34. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >make the fightfags seethe uncontrollably

  35. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone got that webm of a dude trying to square up in the street and getting stabbed in the throat in broad daylight?

  36. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's not, can help you getting your enemy out of full mount, 100kg, etc

  37. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    daily reminder trained fighters get in trouble in court if they get into altercations with untrained people all the time in western countries lol
    so it doesn't fucking matter if stabbing or smashing some bjj gay ass on the skull will get you in trouble in self defense, I will still do it if mma lanky ass dyel subhuman tryhards attack me, I have the moral right to defend myself by any means necessary.

  38. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've never understood this.

    As long as you're like 6'3 + and 250+ lbs you're already stronger/bigger than 90% or the world population and no mma/bjj fag is gonna be able to hold you.

    Now if you're under this weight and height go for it, might give you a fighting chance.

  39. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    oh yeah btw i forgot to say this but avoid videogames that are not legit boxing simulation or UFC in most realistic way possible, so that you don´t insert wrong techniques in your mind.

    As example in tekken, paul puts one leg forward and punches, yoshimitsu flies 3 meters back. If you try that yourself, you´re gonna hear a small thud, they don´t move and you´re getting a haymaker to face unless you immediatly put your hands up or take distance. Fighting games also promote the idea of going to match wearing some fashion shit. In real life, if you wear a cute hoodie, im gonna drag it over your head so you cant see and pummel you with the other arm (see hockey punch)

    Avoid Aikido at all costs, priotitize Boxing, Muay Thai, Judo or BJJ. If you can´t get the good sports however, anything is better than nothing.
    Even if you´re not actively in training class, shadowboxing and hitting the gym makes sure your muscles don´t shrink. Just stay active and repeat the techniques.

  40. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    BJJ only works because people believe in it, it's purely metagame, if people stop believing and start treating it like it's nothing but gay grooming it will stop working.

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