>clogs your arteries
>makes you fat
>gives you diabetes
>has zero vitamins
>cow estrogens
...
???
>makes meals slightly tastier
What's the point of eating this stuff?
>clogs your arteries
>makes you fat
>gives you diabetes
>has zero vitamins
>cow estrogens
...
???
>makes meals slightly tastier
What's the point of eating this stuff?
>clogs the board
>doesn't engage in good faith
>is a gay
...
???
>posts bait
whats the point of replying to OP?
Completely off topic my guy
fpbp
Great another ketoschizo thread!
fpbp gaped the ketochizo
go finger your ass gay
fpbp
>people use the grass-to-fat machinery to get their daily calories for thousands of years
>no longer have to use it out of need
>chose to use it sometimes because it tastes better and it can be healthy in moderation
Whaa whaa why you eat butter
>it can be healthy in moderation
Name a single health benefit to consuming butter.
>Hard mode: don't have a schizo meltdown about seed oils
It actually has some vitamins unlike most seed oils and has a more diverse makeup of different fatty acids. I'm an olive oil guy but I'll buy some butter once in a while.
>just 9 more sticks of butter to get your daily value of vitamin E sweetie!
>y-yes dear
Now compare that to seed oils side by side.
We'll wait. And post body while you're at it.
Why would anyone try to get vitamins from butter OR oils? Are you moronic?
Exactly. So why would you think anyone is eating butter for Vitamin E content? Butter having micros makes it superior to seed oils, but extrapolating that to mean people eat butter to get 100% RDA of anything is brainlet tier.
That leap of "logic" you've demonstrated shows plainly how much of an uneducated simpleton you truly are. You're also a manlet, and probably brown, from the 3rd world. We can't believe otherwise until you post body and disprove it.
Pretty sure ketogays and carnihomos believe butter is super nutritious hehe and try to do exactly that
You mean clickbait content creators would do something that isn't actually a part of the diet for clicks?! NO WAAAAY! No one successful actually does this as it doesn't fit Macros/micros while being under TDEE. Eating keto reasonably does, though.
Again, compare butter and any seed oil side by side. This thread is about butter and why it's better to use than any seed oil. You're going to deflect again, of course.
>for clicks
As I predicted, deflection with an old image of a grifter who is making money on his gift.
>why would you think anyone is eating butter for Vitamin E content?
Because ketolards center their entire meme diet around the mystical wonders of Kerrygold* butter
Post body
>Butter having micros makes it superior to seed oils
A single carrot has more nutrients than 1000 calories worth of butter.
>vegan propaganda website lists carrots as having vitamin A
Lmao Vitamin A is an animal vitamin you moron. The other "vitamins" in carrots are also poorly utilized
>diet neutral website that gives objective values for nutrients is some how even remotely "vegan propaganda"
So no actual evidence against it then, just "its the vegans!!"
There is no need to be upset anon. I am fellow Aajonus fan.
We must unite against our common enemy:
>water
>Are you moronic?
Yes. Yes he is.
He said name a single health benefit to consuming butter. All you did was compare it to seed oils, which is irrelevant to the conversation. Just say there is no benefit
The micros are the benefit. Show me seed oils with comparable micros.
Are you the moron that claimed butter goes rancid in the body? That still hasn't been answered. If butter goes rancid in my body at around 98 Fahrenheit, how do the French use it to bake and as the base for sauce making at higher temperatures without creating a rancid product?
>still comparing it to seed oils
Its like you dont even read the post. Sigh.
>Are you the moron that claimed butter goes rancid in the body.
No, idk why you went on a rant about it.
The OP asked why people eat butter, and the reason is it's better than oils.
The OP claims butter has no Vitamins, which has also been shown to be factually incorrect.
Ergo, if you can't present a seed oil that is superior to butter, the thread will have been definitely answered as to why people use and prefer butter.
>still on seed oils
Alright I'm out. Have a good one man.
Yes, because butter is superior to them. You haven't/can't show otherwise so you're feigning that my argument is somehow unintelligible.
Why do people use butter? Objectively it has better nutritional values than any other oil. That answers the question. Do you disagree? Then post some objective proof.
The fact I had to hold your hand and keep repeating the same point to your drool covered maw and crossed eyes illuminates your lack of reading comprehension and critical thinking skills.
>guy points our blatant failure in logic
>other guy doubles down
>keeps doubling down
>keeps replying to the guy who just exited the conversation with the same exact narrative.
All I could see there was the word 'cope' over and over again. Maybe try directly engaging the actual argument?
Your arguing something he isn't. Theres no actual argument because you refuse to respond to the question directly
I'm sorry, where was the question? Please point it out.
Questions aren't arguments
Again, what was the question I was supposed to be answering?
Holy frick did you lose that one, stud. You wrote all those responses to wither up and die. Pathetic. What little homosexual you grew up to be.
It's over.
post body or stop posting
OP BTFO
not bad but you should have called out OP on being israeli
HOOOOLY
good argument! however, have you considered this?
Most butter comes from Jersey or Brown Swiss cattle, not Holstein Friesian.
that's super cute.
https://voca.ro/1lN8xAiP00a7
>Carbohydrates also convert to fat
You’re making it sound like you’re eating butter by the stickful
there doesnt seem much point in eating something that will almost certainly kill you.
israeli poster still posting old make believes (his kind made up to weaken goyim)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8805510/
>As observed from the food availability data, processed and ultra-processed foods dramatically increased over the past two centuries, especially sugar, white flour, white rice, vegetable oils, and ready-to-eat meals. These changes paralleled the rising incidence of NCDs, while animal fat consumption was inversely correlated.
Verification not required.
>processed food consumption goes up
>disease increases
I can't believe it. Must be the carbs we've been consuming for thousands of years
indeed redpilled brethren
we, and only we, the enlightened ones know the true diet for man. It was what I knew in my heart all along
>the foods I crave
That looks vile
it has the most important nootrients
>cholesterol
>saturated fat
>5% dv b12
stay mad vegtroony
The only carbs that ARENT processed are fruits and veggies.
>I am changing the definition of processed from the obvious poison slop that lines 90% of the grocery store
>processed now means rice, beans, and bread
Your butcher (Walmart) has to not only kill the chicken, cut it up, remove the organs, dip it in bleach, inject with a 4% sodium solution, and wrap it in plastic. I suppose that is processed too hmm?
Bread is 100% slop
Beans are veggies like I said, moron
and good luck turning brown rice into white rice yourself
you are sharmouta
bich stupid
>animal fats…. le bad!
Damn dude, you seem pretty gay.
>you don't understand!
>I NEED TO clog my arteries and shorten my lifespan by 20 years to make slightly tastier meals!
This happens with refined sugars, not fat consumption. Carbohydrates also convert to fat and overconsumption will cake your organs and arteries in visceral fat tissue. It’s almost like overconsumption of calories is what causes fat to build.
But nice try, you moron.
>refined sugars, not fat consumption
holy cope
>Carbohydrates also convert to fat
like 20 grams a day. In about 2 years you'll gain a pound kek
>cake your organs and arteries in visceral fat tissue
absolutely cult-tier
>20 grams a day
Based on what intake volume? There's no magical cap for sugar to convert to stored adipose tissue, so 20 grams a day means nothing without knowing how much you're taking in.
>Based on what intake volume?
Adaptive thermogenesis inhibits lipogenesis to a pitiful amount.
Ketolards will LARP about their "randle cycle" theory when the opposite is true. The body never wants to convert carbs into fat or protein, and loses nearly 1/5th of calories for the tiny amount it can even make.
What really happens is you eat 2000 cals of carbs a day, then 1000 calories of fat. 100% of the fat will go directly to fat storage while the carbs will be immediately utilized for their main purpose in the body
>being your primary fuel source
You actually just spout nonsense and expect people to believe it. No, eating fat doesn't make you fat. Eating over your TDEE makes you fat.
Nope, spitting hard facts.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002916523064043?via%3Dihub
>"Skinny and obese women were overfed 50% more total calories than they usually ate in a day, along with an extra 3.5 ounces (135 grams) of refined sugar. From this overfeeding the women produced less than 4 grams (36 calories) of fat daily, which means a person overfed 50% of calories from carbohydrates would require 4 months in order to gain one extra pound of body fat."
The body literally CANNOT convert any significant amount of carbs to fat. You're a "LARDass" a "FATass" "FATty" because
>the fat you eat is the fat you wear.
>Supported by The Sugar Bureau, London.
LONDON
no greasy fat eater will debunk it. this shit does not only make you fat but makes skin and hair greasy. gross.
>like 20 grams a day
Citation needed
What do you think happens to the extra sugar once it's forced into your cells? This is how fatty liver happens. Overglycation through alcohol or sugar that's forced in. Liver starts producing fat just to get rid of it which shouldn't happen normally, but there's nowhere else to put it.
>and then the sugar magically turns into fat
>and the fat from the butter will go straight to my brain instead, for my body knows it's ANCESTRAL powers.
Sounds like a terribly inefficient process. My body just burns the sugar as body heat, but I suppose mutts have a more orcish anatomy suited for ketogenic diets
>ancestral powers
Are you the same guy that talked about butter rivers, egg rain and rotting carcass trees?
It's simply reverberating your logic.
>sugar is turned by the body into fat
>fat is used for... ??? Energy?
Please tell me why the body would favor a completely inefficient process, not using sugar as direct fuel and instead converting it to fat instead.
>Please tell me why the body would favor a completely inefficient process, not using sugar as direct fuel and instead converting it to fat instead.
I mean that's what happens. Why would we have fat cells at all if it's so inefficient. Maybe you should ask yourself why it's doing it if glycogen overdosing wasn't an issue.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10157623/
I'm honestly not quite sure what you're trying to argue about. Is your position that the body doesn't produce fat if you don't eat fat?
corrected a typo
>I mean that's what happens.
That's not what happens, at all. Glycogen is converted to glucose for use fueling ALL cells in your body.
>Why would we have fat cells at all
The body stores excess energy from dietary fat sources in fat cells as a backup mechanism so you don't starve to death the moment you skip a meal.
Are we really going to devolve to this point of argumentation where you're pretending to not know what fat is for?
>the body doesn't produce fat if you don't eat fat
The body is capable of synthesizing minimal amounts of fat through lipogenesis, the equivalent of 4 grams-100 grams of fat a day, depending on the study. It's very difficult to measure because there is a lack of human studies and it's mostly done in rats.
At 4 grams a day, it'd take nearly 100 days to put on a single pound of fat. At the highest estimate of 100 grams, it'd take 4 days to put on a pound. This process is called "de novo lipogenesis" and the body almost never uses it because it's extremely inefficient. 20% of calories are expended just in conversion and it takes up valuable resources by the liver to do it. That's why studies have shown that nearly 100% of the body fat you have comes directly from the fat sources you've eaten. This was the original reason why "seed oils" were viewed so negatively, as PUFA fat stores are relatively unstable and cause inflammation. See Ray Peat
It's a simple reality that the fat you eat is the fat you wear. The less fat you consume the less your body will put on.
>At the highest estimate of 100 grams
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3165600/
This study claims 150g/d was achieved in the experiment.
With lipid content in adipose tissue this could translate to 300g/d of weight gain.
Don't have any more time to look more into it right now so I'll respond tomorrow.
read the study linked or your entire family dies tonight
usually it's /misc/acks posting graphs, studies and statistic but when said SÒYENCE does not conform to their opinion suddenly it's da jooz and their propaganda and it's all fake and shit
you vill consume ze fats und you vill be happy (und without clogged arteries, goy)
Holy fricking kek, the bitter resentment in this post, it had to be written by a triggered broad with giant glasses. Nobody simps that hard for junk food (plant based) and isn't a miserable bawd.
Insane projection.
>resentment
for what? you know I'm right, if there was the same study that said that fats do indeed increase NCDs ---> "le clog your arteries" then he would have posted it first as a thread opener
>simps
who's simping, I just reported a study article, you are welcome to read it and form you own conclusions
it's an objective truth that pople used to consume more fats
>junk food (plant based)
butter is animal based, maybe you are mistaken with margarine but the op pic is clearly butter
>resists capitalism
Ew what the frick is this? Vegetable oil found in grocery stores? Thankfully I never eat that shit. What’s the source of this? How it’s made?
animal fats can't clog any arteries
they don't react with your blood vessel tissue
also, post body or your mother dies
Post physique
>if you don’t eat 0g of fat per day, then you may as well be drinking gallons of butter
Why can’t our gay as frick mods ban these morons?
I eat below every day. How long do I have to live?
>2 slices sourdough bread toast
>1 tbsp olive oil
>2 eggs
>2 tsp spicy brown mustard
>1/2 tbsp butter
>1 chicken breast
>1 baked potato
>1/2 head of broccoli
>juice from 1/2 lemon
>1 banana
>10 oz glass of orange juice
You're eating moderately enough that your moronic grandson will be the kind that says "he ate eggs every morning and lived to 85 he was strong as an ox cholesterol deboooonked"
When is that going to happen to me? I have eaten massive amounts of butter for over a decade. Let me guess, 2 more weeks?
yea, that's why I don't eat margarine moron
yer frick butter, ive gone back to low fat margarine
*heavy breathing*
>SEEEEEEEEEED OIIIIIIIIIIL
Moxyte!
what country are you from where the fat clogs arteries and your cows receive injections ?
Ketotrannies should kill themselves. Look how angry they get when you mention that their favorite food is bad for them. Very emotional, sad!
Quantity beats quality. The farmers winning out does not at all tell us that they are stronger, or healthier, or even smarter.
What's the least messy fat to cook in pans with?
your arteries
It doesnt
you fat
Anything could in excess
you diabetes
It doesnt
>>has zero vitamins
Wrong
>>cow estrogens
Not a problem
You're probably pretty smug thinking you made a good bait.
Unfortunately you still have breasts and that will remain with you.
Concession accepted
Raw grassfed butter is one of the most nutrient-dense and vitamin-dense foods that exist.
The fact that the corrupt establishment has to make dozens of quack studies trying to convince you it will make your heart explode is proof that it's one of the best things you could possibly consume.
Always do the opposite of what the medical profession tells you to do.
>saturated fat will make your heart explode!
>eggs are bad for you!
>red meat will give you cancer!
>cholesterol is bad for you!
It means you need to consume these things as much as possible.
You literally can't go wrong by doing the opposite of what these quacks tell you to do.
How much of it you need to eat to get all vitamins or even most of vitamins? Please show the number please that is so funny
>Raw grassfed butter is one of the most nutrient-dense and vitamin-dense foods that exist.
Weird how youve posted no evidence of it and just used flowery language instead
>the guy who claimed he cured his autism and cancer by drinking carrot juice
>then he went into the woods, dying because he had no nootrients
>then he claimed a pack of wolves came to him and gave him raw meat and he was cured
>he followed up these claims by giving lectures on the dangers of drinking water, how germs don't exist, and encouraged people to eat rotten meat
>he fell off a ladder in Thailand and claimed it was the Government trying to assassinate him
Funniest shit ever. Best standup comedian since Pryor
>how germs don't exist,
Wrong, he said that microbes are never harmful. And he was completely right.
Butter does not have zero vitamins
People in Israel eat butter, that's good enough for me
WHAT IF
I JUST
EAT FOOD
IN MODERATION
WITHOUT KETO
OR VEGAN
OR MEMES
WHAT IF
MY DIET
WAS JUST
FRICKING BALANCED
CAN YOU
IMAGINE IF
I DID
THAT SHIT?
That's a modern idea based off of false modern understandings of nutrition. It doesn't exist in the wild where man evolved and existed for millennia.
You aren't in the wild
Which is why we're experiencing an obesity epidemic
Yes I'm sure people are obese from eating fruit and meat and vegetable
People 50 years ago weren't in the wild either you
dunce
NOT MODERN
HUMANS JUST
FRICKING EAT
WHATEVER THEY
COME ACROSS
ALWAYS HAVE
ALWAYS WILL
BERRIES? COOL
NUTS? GOOD
MEAT? OK
FISH? YES
JUST EAT
WHOLE FOODS
AND STOP
SHITTING UP
MY BOARD
Black person homosexualS