The hard truth is you restart your current life and have to live it for eternity. If your life sucks well... If it's okay it's not the worse. Not sure if it's changeable.
Depends on the quality of life. Eternal nothing would be pure, unadulterated neutralness for all of eternity. If your life is shit it will be shiftiness for all of eternity. If your life is great it will be greatness for all of eternity. Really depends on the state of the life you were given.
that meme is goofy because a lot of us live like that
for me it is the country, am a redneck and would not have it any other way, lots of love in the home and a sweet woman with a big booty
this is the life I choose, it is the life I want, but if you put your hope in Christ there are golden fields beyond this rough and steep path trodden below the sun and stars
Sort of. Your body breaks down and your molecules go off/on to become parts of other living things. If you're asking whether your entire being or soul remains intact and you just waft on over to some newborn, the answer is no. You literally get scrapped for parts after you die.
maybe, it's certain though you will not evaporate into non-existence, Plato already proved the immortality of the soul and modern midwits think their $oyence proves anything to the contrary (they are oblivious to the fact that post-Cartesian $oyence is by necessity an incomplete description of reality (e.g. inability to account for intentionality or qualia))
Yes
read any NDE report, they are in the tens of thousands
you're here to do some shit and learn from it, by your own choice, and after death you go off to goof around wherever else in the infinite universes you fancy and have stuff to do, for eternity
you might eventually come back here if you feel like it again and/or there's a particular earth life story that you'd like to experience for some reason
The hard truth is you restart your current life and have to live it for eternity. If your life sucks well... If it's okay it's not the worse. Not sure if it's changeable.
Cant decide if eternal return or eternal nothing would be a worse fate
Depends on the quality of life. Eternal nothing would be pure, unadulterated neutralness for all of eternity. If your life is shit it will be shiftiness for all of eternity. If your life is great it will be greatness for all of eternity. Really depends on the state of the life you were given.
read NDE reports
read mystic texts
sit down and meditate
if you take your time to decipher and understand what all the mystics, revived people and your experience in meditation are saying, you'll find that they all point towards the same things
why would I? I have read the numerous case reports, I have experienced paranormal phenomena in my own life, I have heard my psych. prof. relate to me how his friend's friend died for 20 minutes with absolutely no bodily signs of life, then was resuscitated only to describe in extreme detail all that took place while he was dead
you're free to disagree and make up your own opinion friend
No, he's an esteemed professional in his field with numerous published studies.
Why are you acting so aggressively? I am not forcing you to agree with me; I don't think it's reasonable to respond like this when disagreeing with someone on metaphysical issues anon.
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Based. You should definitely look into the work of Dr. Ian Stevenson and Jim Tucker, they were able to interview thousands of kids around the world who had past life memories and gave vivid accounts about them. Reincarnation is the most plausible theory out there and definitely makes a lot more sense than a void of nothingness or eternal bliss/misery in Abrahamic Heaven or Hell. Pretty much everybody in hostory except for atheists and Abrahamic religion followers have believed in reincarnation in form of another.
Appreciate the response anon, thank you. Looking into reincarnation cases and literature has been on my to-do list for a while. >Abrahamic religion
I think reincarnation is mentioned even somewhere among the apocryphal texts, I haven't read any of them but I think it was the apocryphon of John that I saw somebody mentioning in relation to this. Though I guess that might not considered "Abrahamic" as it's apocryphal, a gnostic text I think? But I do not know by whom and according to what the distinctions were made as to which texts would be considered canonical and which would not.
So where do the new souls come from? Not enough past lives to reincarnate 10 billion people.
From my understanding there is not a numerical limit on souls, most literature and mystic texts that deal with the topic also deal or make references to somewhat ineffable concepts such as infinity - God, Monad, Brahman or what else you may want to name it is described as all encompassing and infinite in His scope, knowledge, presence and power. Souls coming from such an infinite root I would imagine would also number in the infinities. And even if not, Earth is not considered a source of souls in most of the religious teachins. The soul comes from elsewhere and only incarnates here for a brief period among its journey. Incarnations are also not said to be limited by linear time, as far as I know.
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Anonymous
you do you bro.
just saying you've fallen way too deep into the rabbit hole
1 year ago
Anonymous
What rabbit hole?
I told you that I have ample reasons to hold the metaphysical opinions I do. Coming to do so has been nothing but beneficial for my life, and every day I appreciate that I happened to wander down this road.
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Anonymous
>From my understanding there is not a numerical limit on souls,
Per talmudic tradition, there are a finite number of souls. Which explains NPCs
https://www.compellingtruth.org/guff.html
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Didnt know that but I ve had a firm believe for many years that some people simply dont posses a soul
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Anonymous
Interesting, but that does not seem to me to say that there is a finite number of souls. It states that there would be a finite number of souls waiting to incarnate on Earth, which makes sense to me - only a finite amount of people can get born in this physical universe to live on this physical Earth. From what you've linked, the guff, to me, sounds like some kind of "waiting room" of souls. Therefore the Messiah can not come and free all souls before everyone's done with their business here, and before everyone in the waiting room has had their go.
I also think the coming of the Messiah, Jesus or what other "being saved" events there are prohpesized in various religious traditions might very much be metaphorical or not referring to an "event" per-se. One is saved, in my opinion, individually, either in life by attaining a form of enlightenment, or after death by coming back to the realm whence they originally came from, and eventually God Himself.
I don't think npcs exist, not in the form of physical beings at least; perhaps in the immaterial realms as thoughtforms, though I can't really comment on whether those may possess consciousness or not.
why would I? I have read the numerous case reports, I have experienced paranormal phenomena in my own life, I have heard my psych. prof. relate to me how his friend's friend died for 20 minutes with absolutely no bodily signs of life, then was resuscitated only to describe in extreme detail all that took place while he was dead
you're free to disagree and make up your own opinion friend
Based. You should definitely look into the work of Dr. Ian Stevenson and Jim Tucker, they were able to interview thousands of kids around the world who had past life memories and gave vivid accounts about them. Reincarnation is the most plausible theory out there and definitely makes a lot more sense than a void of nothingness or eternal bliss/misery in Abrahamic Heaven or Hell. Pretty much everybody in hostory except for atheists and Abrahamic religion followers have believed in reincarnation in form of another.
many of the 'people' you see are simply soulless npcs, or i suspect perhaps the souls of animals that are recycled into people instead, hence the lack of impulse control and animalistic behaviour found in said npcs
You are on IST, likely scroolling the catalog multiple times a day to get your dopamine hits. This is animalistic behavior. There are no "NPCs", some people just scrooll 4chin while others drink, scrooll Instagram or partake in other types of animalistic behaviors. I think the point of this whole experience is that you are put in a body that is constantly trying to go by its inner survival based heuristics and you have to learn to overcome it and display positive attributes such as compassion, love and presence in the moment despite your body fighting against your will, trying to do the opposite. That some fail to take control in this battle against one's biological circuitry or realize that such a battle is even taking place does not make them "NPCs", they are of the same essence and I think it's best to have compassion for them, after all we too have been subject to numerous occurrences of "luck" and lucky decisions in order to end up where we are today.
There is only heaven and hell after this life, and that’s forever. This life is short. God will give you heaven if you accept Him as One, accept his prophets as righteous carriers of His word. Believe in the three messengers - Moses(Musa), Jesus (Isa), and Muhammad. Follow the final revelation, the Quran. Prostrate to your Lord in humility. He is All-Knowing and the most Forgiving. Turn your back on the nonsense of today and if all you have is yourself and God’s love, so be it.
Do you want to be like Abraham(Ibrahim)? Or do you want to be some chud who is addicted to worldly affairs and IST. Let’s get off the disgusting site, there’s more and bigger to be had.
You die and return to heavenly father, that's all there is that I know. I hope maybe he'll give second chances but maybe not, life is both hard and difficult yet joyous and nice, the point of it is that you learn something for when you do eventually die. We are put here to learn and experience good and bad, righteousness but also sin and to learn why such sin is bad as it doesn't help one feel any better but one has to have committed to truly learn why it's wrong.
A second chance isn't needed, you have enough chances to do anything you wish in your current life but you have to act
How the frick can anyone take life seriously when a good 50% of people believe in bullshit like "Heaven" and magic sky daddy for being good like anons ITT? The frick lol. They grew up being fed bullshit and believe it because they'd squirm without any other idea.
Okay then. Don’t take life seriously, see where it takes you. And when you die, you will only have yourself to blame on the Day of Recompense. May you drown in the collective sweat and tears of all people on that day.
If you literally go and touch some grass, you will know there is a Creator who designs systems within systems within systems within etc but you’re much too stupid to realize.
We shouldnt mess with the other realm, the 2nd film of the Ring franchise,Rasen(the forgotten sequal not Ring 2)gives us a pretty good explanation of how a curse can be real and not some abstract concept
It won't be.
If anything, your consciousness is not dependent on specific the physical atoms that make up your brain right now or have done so before - that constituence has changed completely numerous times since the day of your birth, the atoms having been replaced, yet your conscious experience continues on; your brain is different, yet it's still you "inside". If your conscious experience started once from "not being", then it would start again, sooner or later, if it were to come into "not being" after death.
In actuality, the above is likely not the case precisely because there is an immaterial essence of yours that is you as the observer, that is not destructible via material means and does not depend on your brain.
See NDE case reports, studies, documented past-life memory cases, milennia of writins of mystics that have done the hard work to sit and delve into their minds to see what it is that makes them up. NDEs are also rather common among the crowds of people that move about hospitals, I have been told, be it as patients or doctors; though they are often brushed aside by personnel and many feel ashamed to share their experiences as a result.
Either way I'd recommend you take the meditation pill, if anything it is an effective way to explore your mind and manage your fears, and if you are conscentious and apply yourself dilligently in your efforts, you just might start getting and experiencing the actual answers to questions such as what is now and what comes after.
You need to max this save out first - Lifes a roguelite, and you are currently all the prestige currency you built up before. If you don't push the run to its absolute limit, you next life will just be worse since you won't have enough chadcoin to spend on essential upgrades.
Nope it is just hell. >Jesus
Jesus has predestination. Either you were born to be in the club or you were born as a vessel for his wrath to make the club feel good. Your little prayer and church attendance means nothing. Your very feet are programmed to take you where you are supposed to go. Also why there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Lotta people promised entry by a pastor who wasn’t even on the guest list.
Read Phaedo by Plato if you want an interesting take on the immortality of the soul.
Basically if you do good in this life you will be reborn anew good and righteous where god(s) see fit, and the opposite for if you are evil during this life.
If you want an even shittier existence in the afterlife you could consider an hero (a selfish, evil act, unless done selflessly), but if you want a "good respawn" you have to use this life to be the best version of yourself - no shortcuts.
Nope
After you die, you'll wake up on New Earth and live forever in a sinless and righteous world.
The hard truth is you restart your current life and have to live it for eternity. If your life sucks well... If it's okay it's not the worse. Not sure if it's changeable.
Cant decide if eternal return or eternal nothing would be a worse fate
Depends on the quality of life. Eternal nothing would be pure, unadulterated neutralness for all of eternity. If your life is shit it will be shiftiness for all of eternity. If your life is great it will be greatness for all of eternity. Really depends on the state of the life you were given.
There's only continuity if you pass on your seed
"respawn" is something from a video game
that meme is goofy because a lot of us live like that
for me it is the country, am a redneck and would not have it any other way, lots of love in the home and a sweet woman with a big booty
this is the life I choose, it is the life I want, but if you put your hope in Christ there are golden fields beyond this rough and steep path trodden below the sun and stars
Sort of. Your body breaks down and your molecules go off/on to become parts of other living things. If you're asking whether your entire being or soul remains intact and you just waft on over to some newborn, the answer is no. You literally get scrapped for parts after you die.
Jesus Christ is Lord
Lord of the Black folk maybe
I know for a fact he’s not the lord of rings or flies that’s other dudes
>inb4 i heckin‘ love science cope
No, you go back to sleep forever.
maybe, it's certain though you will not evaporate into non-existence, Plato already proved the immortality of the soul and modern midwits think their $oyence proves anything to the contrary (they are oblivious to the fact that post-Cartesian $oyence is by necessity an incomplete description of reality (e.g. inability to account for intentionality or qualia))
Yes
read any NDE report, they are in the tens of thousands
you're here to do some shit and learn from it, by your own choice, and after death you go off to goof around wherever else in the infinite universes you fancy and have stuff to do, for eternity
you might eventually come back here if you feel like it again and/or there's a particular earth life story that you'd like to experience for some reason
read NDE reports
read mystic texts
sit down and meditate
if you take your time to decipher and understand what all the mystics, revived people and your experience in meditation are saying, you'll find that they all point towards the same things
try hopping off the pixie dust
why would I? I have read the numerous case reports, I have experienced paranormal phenomena in my own life, I have heard my psych. prof. relate to me how his friend's friend died for 20 minutes with absolutely no bodily signs of life, then was resuscitated only to describe in extreme detail all that took place while he was dead
you're free to disagree and make up your own opinion friend
was this "professor" the person selling you the aforementioned fairy coke?
you need serious therapeutical help
No, he's an esteemed professional in his field with numerous published studies.
Why are you acting so aggressively? I am not forcing you to agree with me; I don't think it's reasonable to respond like this when disagreeing with someone on metaphysical issues anon.
Appreciate the response anon, thank you. Looking into reincarnation cases and literature has been on my to-do list for a while.
>Abrahamic religion
I think reincarnation is mentioned even somewhere among the apocryphal texts, I haven't read any of them but I think it was the apocryphon of John that I saw somebody mentioning in relation to this. Though I guess that might not considered "Abrahamic" as it's apocryphal, a gnostic text I think? But I do not know by whom and according to what the distinctions were made as to which texts would be considered canonical and which would not.
From my understanding there is not a numerical limit on souls, most literature and mystic texts that deal with the topic also deal or make references to somewhat ineffable concepts such as infinity - God, Monad, Brahman or what else you may want to name it is described as all encompassing and infinite in His scope, knowledge, presence and power. Souls coming from such an infinite root I would imagine would also number in the infinities. And even if not, Earth is not considered a source of souls in most of the religious teachins. The soul comes from elsewhere and only incarnates here for a brief period among its journey. Incarnations are also not said to be limited by linear time, as far as I know.
you do you bro.
just saying you've fallen way too deep into the rabbit hole
What rabbit hole?
I told you that I have ample reasons to hold the metaphysical opinions I do. Coming to do so has been nothing but beneficial for my life, and every day I appreciate that I happened to wander down this road.
>From my understanding there is not a numerical limit on souls,
Per talmudic tradition, there are a finite number of souls. Which explains NPCs
https://www.compellingtruth.org/guff.html
Didnt know that but I ve had a firm believe for many years that some people simply dont posses a soul
Interesting, but that does not seem to me to say that there is a finite number of souls. It states that there would be a finite number of souls waiting to incarnate on Earth, which makes sense to me - only a finite amount of people can get born in this physical universe to live on this physical Earth. From what you've linked, the guff, to me, sounds like some kind of "waiting room" of souls. Therefore the Messiah can not come and free all souls before everyone's done with their business here, and before everyone in the waiting room has had their go.
I also think the coming of the Messiah, Jesus or what other "being saved" events there are prohpesized in various religious traditions might very much be metaphorical or not referring to an "event" per-se. One is saved, in my opinion, individually, either in life by attaining a form of enlightenment, or after death by coming back to the realm whence they originally came from, and eventually God Himself.
I don't think npcs exist, not in the form of physical beings at least; perhaps in the immaterial realms as thoughtforms, though I can't really comment on whether those may possess consciousness or not.
Based. You should definitely look into the work of Dr. Ian Stevenson and Jim Tucker, they were able to interview thousands of kids around the world who had past life memories and gave vivid accounts about them. Reincarnation is the most plausible theory out there and definitely makes a lot more sense than a void of nothingness or eternal bliss/misery in Abrahamic Heaven or Hell. Pretty much everybody in hostory except for atheists and Abrahamic religion followers have believed in reincarnation in form of another.
So where do the new souls come from? Not enough past lives to reincarnate 10 billion people.
many of the 'people' you see are simply soulless npcs, or i suspect perhaps the souls of animals that are recycled into people instead, hence the lack of impulse control and animalistic behaviour found in said npcs
You are on IST, likely scroolling the catalog multiple times a day to get your dopamine hits. This is animalistic behavior. There are no "NPCs", some people just scrooll 4chin while others drink, scrooll Instagram or partake in other types of animalistic behaviors. I think the point of this whole experience is that you are put in a body that is constantly trying to go by its inner survival based heuristics and you have to learn to overcome it and display positive attributes such as compassion, love and presence in the moment despite your body fighting against your will, trying to do the opposite. That some fail to take control in this battle against one's biological circuitry or realize that such a battle is even taking place does not make them "NPCs", they are of the same essence and I think it's best to have compassion for them, after all we too have been subject to numerous occurrences of "luck" and lucky decisions in order to end up where we are today.
There is only heaven and hell after this life, and that’s forever. This life is short. God will give you heaven if you accept Him as One, accept his prophets as righteous carriers of His word. Believe in the three messengers - Moses(Musa), Jesus (Isa), and Muhammad. Follow the final revelation, the Quran. Prostrate to your Lord in humility. He is All-Knowing and the most Forgiving. Turn your back on the nonsense of today and if all you have is yourself and God’s love, so be it.
Do you want to be like Abraham(Ibrahim)? Or do you want to be some chud who is addicted to worldly affairs and IST. Let’s get off the disgusting site, there’s more and bigger to be had.
Ask Him to be guided, with sincerity. If you believe, and act like a believer, then you are of the loved and chosen.
well yes but most likely in a furnace
You die and return to heavenly father, that's all there is that I know. I hope maybe he'll give second chances but maybe not, life is both hard and difficult yet joyous and nice, the point of it is that you learn something for when you do eventually die. We are put here to learn and experience good and bad, righteousness but also sin and to learn why such sin is bad as it doesn't help one feel any better but one has to have committed to truly learn why it's wrong.
A second chance isn't needed, you have enough chances to do anything you wish in your current life but you have to act
How the frick can anyone take life seriously when a good 50% of people believe in bullshit like "Heaven" and magic sky daddy for being good like anons ITT? The frick lol. They grew up being fed bullshit and believe it because they'd squirm without any other idea.
Okay then. Don’t take life seriously, see where it takes you. And when you die, you will only have yourself to blame on the Day of Recompense. May you drown in the collective sweat and tears of all people on that day.
If you literally go and touch some grass, you will know there is a Creator who designs systems within systems within systems within etc but you’re much too stupid to realize.
Unfortunately not. I feel you bro, I got bad height RNG. The final boss (getting a gf) seems utterly impossible now, what's the point?
yes its called isekai
We shouldnt mess with the other realm, the 2nd film of the Ring franchise,Rasen(the forgotten sequal not Ring 2)gives us a pretty good explanation of how a curse can be real and not some abstract concept
Bros I'm scared, I don't want death to be eternal darkness
It won't be.
If anything, your consciousness is not dependent on specific the physical atoms that make up your brain right now or have done so before - that constituence has changed completely numerous times since the day of your birth, the atoms having been replaced, yet your conscious experience continues on; your brain is different, yet it's still you "inside". If your conscious experience started once from "not being", then it would start again, sooner or later, if it were to come into "not being" after death.
In actuality, the above is likely not the case precisely because there is an immaterial essence of yours that is you as the observer, that is not destructible via material means and does not depend on your brain.
See NDE case reports, studies, documented past-life memory cases, milennia of writins of mystics that have done the hard work to sit and delve into their minds to see what it is that makes them up. NDEs are also rather common among the crowds of people that move about hospitals, I have been told, be it as patients or doctors; though they are often brushed aside by personnel and many feel ashamed to share their experiences as a result.
Either way I'd recommend you take the meditation pill, if anything it is an effective way to explore your mind and manage your fears, and if you are conscentious and apply yourself dilligently in your efforts, you just might start getting and experiencing the actual answers to questions such as what is now and what comes after.
>on specific the physical
on the specific physical
you'd love buddhism
but overall try to make the most of what you have 🙂
You need to max this save out first - Lifes a roguelite, and you are currently all the prestige currency you built up before. If you don't push the run to its absolute limit, you next life will just be worse since you won't have enough chadcoin to spend on essential upgrades.
Time is a flat circle
When you die you appear in a cage and are forced to watch all the bad decision the younger you did on repeat
I'd love to isekai my life just once. Maybe twice. Anymore and its eternal suffering of a groundhog day
Nope it is just hell.
>Jesus
Jesus has predestination. Either you were born to be in the club or you were born as a vessel for his wrath to make the club feel good. Your little prayer and church attendance means nothing. Your very feet are programmed to take you where you are supposed to go. Also why there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Lotta people promised entry by a pastor who wasn’t even on the guest list.
Why don't you have a nice day and find out sodomite
Read Phaedo by Plato if you want an interesting take on the immortality of the soul.
Basically if you do good in this life you will be reborn anew good and righteous where god(s) see fit, and the opposite for if you are evil during this life.
If you want an even shittier existence in the afterlife you could consider an hero (a selfish, evil act, unless done selflessly), but if you want a "good respawn" you have to use this life to be the best version of yourself - no shortcuts.
Nope.
How bad have you fricked up? Theres probably things you can do to get around the issues.