Don't care about being big, just wanna look reasonably athletic. and be below 15% cuz frick facial fat and love handles.
if i can bench 90kg, ohp 2 20kg dumbbells, 3x10 pullups with 10kg, do 20 straight hanging leg raises and seal row 2 38kg dumbbells 3x8 and hammer curl 20kg 3x10 is that enough for me at 184cm to cut and look somewhat nice to normies? i weigh 83kg atm,
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Yes
It'll take you years to reach that natty
He's not as unimpressive as the homosexual who made this image makes it seem
alright alright, what is achievable within 1 year then? i fricking give up i just want to be below 15% bf without being a stick
losing fat is piss easy. literally just eat less. Can be done incredibly quickly too. Building muscle is what takes time.
>Years
What? What the frick? Are you moronic?
Post body
Bigger than 99% of this board
yes, years natty (1.5 maybe), unless you start off as someone who does sports.
now post body
1.5 is only if he started that way and let himself go a little. Everyone who asks for this is 22-30% body fat and don’t have the discipline to eat at Auschwitz and then LIGHTLY build up.
or the reverse of skinnyfat and dont have the guts to bulk
>unless you start off as someone who does sports.
how long then?
Two years or two years and a few months starting from 0 aka skinny fat
>men just have to be born with a supermodel face!
But what if I want to attract woman who are hotter than that actress? I don't find Dakota Johnson to be hot. What kind of body should I work towards?
i dont know who is natty or intermediate anymore
Damn that guy is literally a 7/10 this proves charisma maxxxing is key to ascend to Chadhood.
Who is he? That's not Henry Cavill.
henry cavill is not natty
Why does every female romance fantasy have to be about some rich billionaire CEO
>men: just want a girl that's sweet and pleasant to be around
>women: he has to be rich and high status
because it's a fantasy? generally you fantasize about the best thing, not what you'd settle for as a realistic option to be happy with, fricking moron
because that is literally what women want. a RICH and HIGH STATUS man, who also is FIT, and TALL, and ATTRACTIVE FACE
is that really too much to ask?
funny that men fantisize about a decent woman that wont cheat on them then :^) Says a lot about women, doesn't it.
What a bitter betty
It's so easy to get girls to like your body. But I don't do it for women, I do it for myself. Women have insanely low standards, if I stopped for women I would have stopped years ago
is that meant to be not that good body or what
Machines if you actually want progress, free weights if you want to mimic NASCAR or Carnival Cruises as a life plan.
>if I can *sets arbitrary standards* does that mean *arbitrary standard*?
sure I guess.
The guy is one small cut away from looking really good, even by fitness community standards
you forgot the most important part.
Hes a rich CEO. Walletmaxxing while not looking like a 7+/10 is what most women find desirable.
50 shades of grey does not work for women if grey is a fricking janitor
i dont care for walletmaxxin and i wouldnt want to be together with someone that only cares about me wallet
you definitely should care about your wallet. universal woman trait is that they want high status males or males who can achieve higher status. And its not because theyre all gold diggers, its for the perfectly understandable reason of them wanting to have someone who can provide for their kids. You want to start being attractive to ladies you should at least aim for a middle class income