IT'S OVER, THE VEGANS WON

>Dietary methionine restriction also reduces adiposity but does so through a paradoxical increase in both energy intake and expenditure. The increase in energy expenditure fully compensates for increased energy intake and effectively limits fat deposition. Perhaps more importantly, the diet increases metabolic flexibility and overall insulin sensitivity and improves lipid metabolism while decreasing systemic inflammation. In this chapter, we describe recent advances in our understanding of the mechanisms and effects of dietary methionine restriction and discuss the remaining obstacles to implementing methionine restriction as a treatment for metabolic disease.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4049285/
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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >bullshit sciencey gay terms
    Nah, meat is good homosexual.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous
  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do they refuse to have a summary normal people can understand? Why do they intentionally make it incomprehensible?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      They're restricting a specific amino acid to affect metabolism in a way that mimics dieting. The abstract doesnt mention meat and i cant be bothered reading any more of it

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why are you so moronic you cant read other than elementary school english? This is not even my native language and I understand it.

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >believing in the ~~*medical studies*~~

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Meta-analysis from studies across several decades
    We are reaching pseudo-science levels that we could only speculate about years ago!!! I mean really, how can any of this be called "science" when they aren't actually measuring anything themselves?

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    In a year or 2 when you quit veganism due to health problems you'll look back on making posts like this online and feel like the naive dickhead you're being

    That is to say if you're not just a fed/bot/shill.
    >t.ex vegan

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >words words words trust the science
    look like shit, therefore ignore fitness advice

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      He'll at least outlive shawn baker

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ray Peat was right, as always

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >this mechanistic speculation is more compelling than most vegans being in poor health and most people improving their health on carnivore

    weird perspective but ok

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oh hai
    >Selenium supplementation inhibits IGF-1 signaling and confers methionine restriction-like healthspan benefits to mice
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33783357/

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Seafoodchads stay winning

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Yawn
    Wake me up when youre dead from malnutrition

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gregor practices what he preaches and the results speak volumes

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I do not listen to bald people about dieting.

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    has this ever been tested in humans? I suspect not

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, Shawn Baker eats absurd amount of protein and has a lower T than literal soibois he makes fun of, diabetic as well

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        And yet he athletically mogs 99% of IST at nearly 60 years old, so scientifically speaking we can deduct that testosterone is unnecessary for athletic preformance

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          maybe because he works out several times a week and they dont, his diet is still shit and it doesn't benefit him at all you mongoloid

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >diet is shit
            >outperforms fitness enthusiasts 30 years his junior
            Doesn't add up fat boy, check your science

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Because he takes roids

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          His body and skin legit looks like shit. Yes he has some muscle but the meat is clearly aging him at a rapid pace

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            What evidence do you have that the meat is aging him and not the constant strenuous workouts and steroid use?

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Because animal products put mTOR into overdrive and that ages you. Working out does not age you.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >youtube grifter that promotes drugs
                That's not a source, if I gave you a video of Shawn Baker and one of the Low Carb Down Under doctors talking about why meat is healthy you would piss and shit your wound in anger

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Low carb down under doctors are funded by cargill to shill their meat you braindead homosexual.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >plant products put mTOR into overdrive
                ftfy

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                those huberman vids are 3 hours long, can anybody provide me with a QRD?

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                There is a comment under the video with links to difference parts

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Anecdote != experiment
        Surely there is some RCT on humans testing this magical methionine restriction proving amazing health benefits. I won't hold my breath

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Methionine can’t damage the liver and produce homocysteine if it’s taken with cysteine, which meat and all other natural sources of methionine have

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's really simple to see which diet is better.
    Scientists, dieticians, anti-aging people etc recommend a mostly vegetarian diet.
    Grifters, steroid users and morons such as liver king on the other hand recommend the carnivore diet

    Hmm I wonder I wonder who I should listen to

  15. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    PEATERS WW@

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ray Peat was right, as always

  16. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oh, yeah. . . this is awkward.
    I'm just gonna keep eating meat, eggs, milk, etc.
    I know, I know, you've got a problem, but your weak little vegan body with your pussy vegan aptitude for violence ensures you ain't gonna do shit, ever.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Funny, a vegan has a higher T than a "carnichad"

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