I’m researching this and thinking about running 20 or 25mg for a minimum of 8 weeks. I’ll probably get a glucose monitor just to be safe. What’s the catch? Anybody tried it? I used to be 1/2/3/4 but took a long time off to be a cardiogay. I now lift and grapple and am mid-30s so better sleep and recovery sounds good. I’m reading mixed reviews about side effects
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The catch is that it doesn't work lol (for height)
I don’t need it for height though. I need it for joint and tendon health. Grappling snaps my shit up
BPC 157 and tb 500 is what you need
What's the one that supposedly aids in healing?
You're probably thinking of BPC-157. CJC-1295 and Tesamorelin mog MK-677 by the way.
The catch is that you're worse off when you quit it as a result of negative feedback loops. Same as sarms in general. If you want to fraud then just pin
bullshit, it's even more pronounced with pinning, unless you want to turn into a literal troony with atrophied balls and never get off test
Shit’s great, I love it. 20mg+ is too much though, 12.5 is enough and you will have increased fasted blood sugar, so you need quality berberine and take 500mg 3 times a day around meals. Take the MK before sleep, even next day the hunger still will be massive. Combined with CJC-1295 DAC you get the same results as from real GH
The catch is that it barely does anything. Expect better sleep and to be hungry often.
>The catch is that it barely does anything
you don't know what you're talking about.
5 years natty lifting for strength, barely ever done any hypertrophy training, have run MK677 with SR9011 for 2 months and I gained 5kg and look pretty full. Also helped me get out of my plateau.
Congrats, you finally managed to eat at a surplus after 5 years.
moron, I gained 25kg in 5 years, which is close to half my starting bodyweight, as i'm not a fat frick.
on top of that 5kg of lean weight in 2 months is significant.
With mk677 alone you'd get frick all over 2 months.
this was me the 31st of july. I don't know how you can argue against evidence.
haven't changed my training, haven't changed my diet. only added 12.5mg of MK677 and 10mg of SR9011 a day.
Never tried sr9011 but mk doesn't do much by itself was my experience.
First time hearing of sr9011, seems really interesting
Whats your experience been taking it so far? Any insomnia or cramping?
Op here
Is it worth it if I’m still at novice lifts? I used to be much stronger but I think I may just clean bulk and try to get muscle memory going until I get back to where I once was after 4-5 months or so. But I’m cross training BJJ now too so my wear-and-tear is quite high. Any sides?
I'm getting back to lifting after 9 years of being completely sedentary, drinking and eating codeine like candy (used to lift for a decade before that) and I plan jumping on 20mg of ostarine for 8 weeks from the start, then add 12.5mg of enclomphene and 10mg of MK677 6 weeks in for a month (may continue with MK for longer than that). thoughts?
>thoughts?
My thought is WHY? Why not just go lift, you don't need all that shit especially if you're just getting started. And don't try to "you'll cowards don't even smoke crack" me, if you weren't a coward you'd pin test.
>just cut off your balls, what are you afraid?
>Why not just go lift, you don't need all that shit especially if you're just getting started
I don't have time anymore to just lift for 5 years, I'll be in my forties by then, and ostarine plus enclo is the fastest way to regain natural test and more.
Haha you're dumb.
I accept your concession, moron
>just pin as your first contact with PEDs
this is incredibly stupid
>taking steroid advice from a moron
you deserve to be small and you deserve a bullet in the head for spreading this garbage
yeah, it's much better idea to take steroid advice from reddit. all of his training advice is sound making it one of the best fitness channels on youtube and he's still bigger than 99% of /fraud/ at probably lower doses
Not the worst plan. But you should use MK677 from the start, it's best aspect is how it synergises with other PEDs. And if you're gonna bother with enclo while on cycle then you should use something stronger than Ostarine, otherwise it seems like a waste.
Also quit the codeine if you haven't already, and quit anything else your using or say goodbye to your liver
I still think enclo is a good idea in my case, even on ostarine, as my test is probably in the shambles after half a gram of codeine almost daily for years. I already bought the ostarine, not sure if mixing SARMs with a similar mechanism of action is a good idea, as there's a lot of conflicting info surrounding this topic, but I could add maybe 5mg of ligandrol
>Also quit the codeine if you haven't already, and quit anything else your using or say goodbye to your liver
codeine isn't particularly hepatoxic, but I'm weaning off it, hopefully completely by the time I start and I already quit alcohol completely
Mixing them probably won't hurt but I wouldn't risk it and I don't think the reward is there, especially if you've already got the Ostarine. I forgot to mention but get tested before during and after, probably you'll be fine and it won't be necessary, but it's not expensive and you don't want to risk being the 1 in 10000 that gets liver damage or ruins their balls and doesn't realise.
I mentioned the liver stuff mostly just to put in your mind that SARMs, and anabolics in general really, can put a lot of stress on it. Being sensible about what you put in your body and you'll probably be fine
Oh and don't go overboard with the enclo, it's very potent stuff. It can double you test level even on stronger anabolics like RAD or LGD
I won't, I'll probably even start with 6mg and see if it's enough. thanks
what about other SARM-adjacents, like cardarine? it also seems too good to be true, inb4 cancer: the mouse study used a moronicly high amount and there's absolutely nothing indicating it's translatable to humans in any way
I've seen this shit in action. It makes you a fat snoring pig with shit load of water retention. You'll be wheezing like a fat frick. Sure you'll sleep good and be hungry but no way that shit is healthy
The effects are overstated, both positive and negative.
Your blood sugar won't go elevated, you won't develop anxiety disorder. At the same time you won't get much bigger. It just gives a slight appetite boost.