>Probably as a way to punish people that step out of line with "random" tests
yep.
And don't forget, the US military is in the business of pretending to be a fighting force. All it is in money laundering leaveiticians through the arms industry and occasionally doing Israel's bidding.
Presumably they assessed the costs outweigh the benefits.
They could be trying to prune people who use steroids for counterintelligence vulnerability or more cynically, because they want to get rid of a list of people and found the two lists overlap considerably.
>Presumably they assessed the costs outweigh the benefits.
Really. The military is now penny pinching huh. And what are the costs?
The most likely reason is the ongoing war against masculinity and heterosexuality in the army (and society as a whole)
I thought they would back off with WW3 looming but it looks like the morons are still at it
what happens if you lose access to your roids for a month on deployment? your body's ability to generate test and shit on its own is completely destroyed by these drugs
They could just keep giving you roids. They already provide transgender FtM soldiers with testosterone; it can't be that difficult or expensive to procure.
that's what already happens to them when they go into the field. they get all skinny and rundown and haggard, and still do better at their job than a non-roider.
in the spec ops you're given implants that pulse out roids, including mibolerone (cheque drops) and halotestin to make you more psychotically aggressive and sadistic and modafinil and methamphetamine. they load these implants up with the dosage needed for months and months while the operators go into the field.
It's not like you either to nothing and spiral to nothing after a week. Assuming the are doing shit like test and deca you could go weeks or months before you're really falling off hard. Hell do high dose cruise of equiv. Test cyp 300mg but with test undeconate Could do monthly shots of 1500mg and even a two months out you'd still have above normal test levels.
Im literally in a government funded study right now regarding the effects of PED's on recovery for Naval Special Warfare assets (specifically measuring oxidative stress after breathing pure 02 before 30+ min dive missions. They are actively looking for better drugs for NSW operators. The study is looking to find out which drugs work best. Article is either complete bullshit or they are just wanting to test for moronic shit. PED's are accepted and encouraged in the SPECWAR community.
I know some retired SF guys and opinions seem divided. On the one hand it's competitive and steroids fit the profile of 'do what you have to do', whether that's making the cut to get into SF or fighting the enemy.
On the other hand you have cases like Robert Bales where roid use is one among several factors in guys losing their shit and committing war crimes. Since steroids are widely known to be illegal due to sports it seems like an easy fix for commanders to say they're doing a reform without having to actually make major changes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bales
Yeah, to elaborate the drugs that are actually given to specific operators or pilots by their doc or flight surgeon is more what im referring to. The Navy doesn't want dudes taking random shit they ordered online but are absolutely on board for performance enhancing prescriptions that they have assessed and studied. Like
This isn’t secret. They give fighter pilots amphetamines, why wouldn’t they give ground troops super soldier serum.
said, flight surgeons prescribe upper stacks to pilots on deployments, its the pilots discretion if they want to use it or not though.
This is an attempt to attract more non-binary limp-wristed emotional wrecks in the name of muh diversity. >See the bad guys can't hurt you now. We're making them go away
Alan thrall was on some podcast a few years ago where he was talking about being in the Marine body bearer barracks and them having a health & comfort inspection and everybody rushing to get rid of roids. If you look at the entrance test for body bearers it's actually pretty hard I'd imagine all the SEALs are on roids as well just to do a bunch of gay-ass running and pullups LMAO
Kek right now Id test positive for
Test
Deca
Npp
Winstrol
Masteron
Tren
Hgh (genotropin pens yeah the good stuff!)
For what purpose? Surely it would be beneficial to have your spec ops be as strong and fast recovering as possible?
Probably as a way to punish people that step out of line with "random" tests
>Probably as a way to punish people that step out of line with "random" tests
yep.
And don't forget, the US military is in the business of pretending to be a fighting force. All it is in money laundering leaveiticians through the arms industry and occasionally doing Israel's bidding.
Presumably they assessed the costs outweigh the benefits.
They could be trying to prune people who use steroids for counterintelligence vulnerability or more cynically, because they want to get rid of a list of people and found the two lists overlap considerably.
>Presumably they assessed the costs outweigh the benefits.
Really. The military is now penny pinching huh. And what are the costs?
The most likely reason is the ongoing war against masculinity and heterosexuality in the army (and society as a whole)
I thought they would back off with WW3 looming but it looks like the morons are still at it
what happens if you lose access to your roids for a month on deployment? your body's ability to generate test and shit on its own is completely destroyed by these drugs
They could just keep giving you roids. They already provide transgender FtM soldiers with testosterone; it can't be that difficult or expensive to procure.
Trannies don't deploy. Supplying testosterone to fat stateside supply clerks != supplying testosterone to sf in whateverthefrickistan
that's what already happens to them when they go into the field. they get all skinny and rundown and haggard, and still do better at their job than a non-roider.
Youd be fine, it takes few months to really notice feel negative effects of not being enhanced.
in the spec ops you're given implants that pulse out roids, including mibolerone (cheque drops) and halotestin to make you more psychotically aggressive and sadistic and modafinil and methamphetamine. they load these implants up with the dosage needed for months and months while the operators go into the field.
Nice
>implants
BIG TITTED SPECIAL OPSAROONIES
It's not like you either to nothing and spiral to nothing after a week. Assuming the are doing shit like test and deca you could go weeks or months before you're really falling off hard. Hell do high dose cruise of equiv. Test cyp 300mg but with test undeconate Could do monthly shots of 1500mg and even a two months out you'd still have above normal test levels.
Bc roidtrannies want to go on 100% disability after theyre done
Im literally in a government funded study right now regarding the effects of PED's on recovery for Naval Special Warfare assets (specifically measuring oxidative stress after breathing pure 02 before 30+ min dive missions. They are actively looking for better drugs for NSW operators. The study is looking to find out which drugs work best. Article is either complete bullshit or they are just wanting to test for moronic shit. PED's are accepted and encouraged in the SPECWAR community.
>I'm in a top secret study group guys
The frick you are- Or maybe you're too stupid to know what a nondisclosure form is.
Why did you insert words he didn't say and build your argument off of it
Because his full of shit post is written to attract attention. It's like those guys who claim they were 'totally part of GATE'.
Okay but you gave it attention and acted moronic while doing so
This isn’t secret. They give fighter pilots amphetamines, why wouldn’t they give ground troops super soldier serum.
you got me, im larping about the specifics of a study for cloutpoints from anonymous IST incels
He's in the military, not exactly bright
I know some retired SF guys and opinions seem divided. On the one hand it's competitive and steroids fit the profile of 'do what you have to do', whether that's making the cut to get into SF or fighting the enemy.
On the other hand you have cases like Robert Bales where roid use is one among several factors in guys losing their shit and committing war crimes. Since steroids are widely known to be illegal due to sports it seems like an easy fix for commanders to say they're doing a reform without having to actually make major changes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bales
Yeah, to elaborate the drugs that are actually given to specific operators or pilots by their doc or flight surgeon is more what im referring to. The Navy doesn't want dudes taking random shit they ordered online but are absolutely on board for performance enhancing prescriptions that they have assessed and studied. Like
said, flight surgeons prescribe upper stacks to pilots on deployments, its the pilots discretion if they want to use it or not though.
why the frick would we not want our seals and special ops to be roided out superhuman men
>Sir, I can't go on that mission. If we're behind enemy lines longer than expected, I'll screw up my cycle.
I thought Biden’s military wanted trannies.
Steroid use is fairly prevalent in the Special Warfare community. I knew EOD guys who were juicing while we were in Bahrain.
This is an attempt to attract more non-binary limp-wristed emotional wrecks in the name of muh diversity.
>See the bad guys can't hurt you now. We're making them go away
I believe this would mean trans-men are no longer allowed to become SEALs.
Alan thrall was on some podcast a few years ago where he was talking about being in the Marine body bearer barracks and them having a health & comfort inspection and everybody rushing to get rid of roids. If you look at the entrance test for body bearers it's actually pretty hard I'd imagine all the SEALs are on roids as well just to do a bunch of gay-ass running and pullups LMAO
How long would you need to be off to test negative? I know it’s dependent on the steroid but they’re touting tests I’ve never even heard of for this.