I temporarily went on hrt for 6 months 5 years ago. I made every effort to pass, including losing weight and getting rid of stubble with laser.
Turned out I didn't want to be a troony, so I stopped the hormones, but my point is, I was willing to put 110% of effort into looking somewhat ok as a troony.
Why the FRICK do people transition when they look like that? And put no effort in? Fricking ugly freaks.
I'm the actual person you're respond to, i'm 6 feet but when i went on hormones i shrunk 2 inches due to pelvic tilt (it reversed when i went off hrt and did stretching exercises).
What made you think you wanted to be a troon out in the first place?
Were there any permanent effects from the HRT?
I wanted to be a chick since I was 15 and I looked like a soft male still in my late 20s, but I decided not to continue hrt because I would miss looking and being treated as a man as I had grown used to being male. Plus I love food, and men can eat more food without gaining weight like women.
The permanent effect from hrt was gyno, but im getting surgery in a few months to remove it, cant wait to have a flat chest.
You can get "sports trt" - ie mild steroid blast just as easily as you can get troony hormones. The medical profession make money from and are incentivised to peddle both.
Look up transvoicelessons on YouTube. Trannies are just by nature gross, but some try way harder than others. I don’t support the whole troony thing but I at least appreciate the ones that try to not look and sound like a walking abomination.
If you're going to be a troony, put the fricking work into it and make sure you have a decent base to start off with, otherwise, don't bother, you'll look like an abomination.
I already said why earlier but it was mostly missing what I looked like when I had testosterone, missing being treated male, and being able to eat more and having more energy.
My energy levels plummeted on estrogen, women are a lot weaker.
I'm happy being male, but ocassionally I wish I could temporarily switch to being a hot chick, although that isn't worth going on hormones getting surgery for.
it's weird hearing this when everytime i hear about detransition, it's always either '' they NEVER regret it '' or '' i was FORCED to go back to a man because i was never accepted as a female''
i mean, you basicaly detrooned because you liked food more that being a gurl
Men can get away with eating a big burger and fries and then having the energy to do 1 hour and a half of cardio. I missed that.
Also the main reason I detransitioned was because I missed looking masculine. I've always been told I'm very handsome and I missed my looks.
I could've looked like a pretty good looking chick had I stayed on the hormones and got surgery, but it wasn't for me. My face has a mix of masculine and soft features naturally.
I still support transgender rights, at least for those who actually don't want to look like abominations like in OP's pic.
>Why the FRICK do people transition when they look like that? And put no effort in? Fricking ugly freaks.
Because, like ALL trannies, they're simply deranged fetishists.
It's not a punk concept, it's a profoundly capitalist commodification and objectification of human identity. In the same way that a troony will never be a woman, a six-figure plastic surgery and prescription drug regimen will never be fricking punk, ever. It's plastic corporate homosexualry and always has been.
If anything it's gommunist and it is contingent upon the assumption that men and women are fundamentally identical and one can easily substitute for the other.
disagree. reveling against your fundamental biology is punk
You could argue cross-dressing and rebelling against societal roles and concepts with little to none base in reality is punk, but against reality is as punk as healing crystals, incense sticks and believing in the Immaculate Conception, so not at all.
>good back lifts that aren't deadlifts
Good mornings
bent over rows with any implement you like. Cambered bar, db's, ez curl bar supinated(a favorite of mine), etc
pullovers
pull-ups
machine rows
lat pull downs
low back machines
shrugs
kelso shrugs
this
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You could argue cross-dressing and rebelling against societal roles and concepts with little to none base in reality is punk, but against reality is as punk as healing crystals, incense sticks and believing in the Immaculate Conception, so not at all.
>be Kurt >get called a homosexual daily for the first couple of decades of your life >be edgy and wear a dress on stage as a response
Literally 99.9% of Nirvana's output is based on Kurt getting bullied to frick and getting called a homosexual as a kid, this is a response to that it's not trooning out in any way shape or form, it's not even crossdressing tbf.
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he wore panties until courtney made him stop kek he was very agp
>being mentally ill is punk! >troons aren't a total nonsense, I don't like them because they're gross and annoying
Do you think people are there to entertain you, moronic zoomer?
Who cares if they annoy you. They will never be a woman and a problem to society for preying children. We don't care about your homosexual subjective bullshit.
kys
>good back lifts that aren't deadlifts
Good mornings
bent over rows with any implement you like. Cambered bar, db's, ez curl bar supinated(a favorite of mine), etc
pullovers
pull-ups
machine rows
lat pull downs
low back machines
shrugs
kelso shrugs
Sadly I have.
I did some stupid shit before the trans thing popped off and ended up in a mental health facility for reasons.
There was 27 year old MTF there named 'Emily' that groomed a literal 1/10 kissless virgin 18 year old femcel into a relationship. Pure predatory behavior.
There was also a FTM, but those are to be pitied.
Also an anime gay from there decided to become 'Ruby' and posted on Facebook about wearing a bra for the first time.
>i.e. they looked at their phone while ypu silently judged them from across the room >that psycho wasn't the predator but you were for daring to think he was
>and ended up in a mental health facility for reasons.
You didn't do shit. Secure mental health facilities are the biggest predators of all, they're a cash grab. They pick on the weakest of society, convince them they have something wrong with them and feed them pharma. Sometimes they have trouble recruiting mental health victims so they just grab anyone in a vulnerable situation from the public.
They probably told you something like "better here than in prison for what you did", when probably you would have gotten a slap on the wrist. It's like a quasi justice system. Mental health facilities are scary institutions not from the vast majority of people inside but from the people running them, they should be totally illegal.
>Crazy people (like me) aren't the problem, mental health facilities are the problem because… you would only have a tap on the wrist!
I hope you two have a nice day and leave the rest of us safe.
>and ended up in a mental health facility for reasons.
You didn't do shit. Secure mental health facilities are the biggest predators of all, they're a cash grab. They pick on the weakest of society, convince them they have something wrong with them and feed them pharma. Sometimes they have trouble recruiting mental health victims so they just grab anyone in a vulnerable situation from the public.
They probably told you something like "better here than in prison for what you did", when probably you would have gotten a slap on the wrist. It's like a quasi justice system. Mental health facilities are scary institutions not from the vast majority of people inside but from the people running them, they should be totally illegal.
No need to be obsessed about anything to know that >someone with a wiener and testicle is a man >someone with a vegana and boobs is a woman
It's basic biology, even a 5yo knows it. And that >people feeling otherwise suffer from gender dysphoria
Which is a long known mental illness. A society normalizing it is ~~*ill*~~ as well
Why is it ill now? Why the most advanced civilization is suddenly pushed to promote homosexuality, mental illness and importing the poorest populations on the globe, getting great replaced? Suddenly they chose to kill themselves as a people. Hm?
What powerful group owning the medias would do that? What group would hate white people for killing them during WWII?
I wonder, really.
I have the same hairline. is it over? I'm trying to use RU58841,topical dut after microneedling and 5mg of oral minox for a year, then get a hair transplant
honestly if he weren't bald I wouldn't think he wasn't a fat, ugly, masculine woman
But that's just a picture, you can't hide stuff like height and bone structure (shoulder width) IRL
I temporarily went on hrt for 6 months 5 years ago. I made every effort to pass, including losing weight and getting rid of stubble with laser.
Turned out I didn't want to be a troony, so I stopped the hormones, but my point is, I was willing to put 110% of effort into looking somewhat ok as a troony.
Why the FRICK do people transition when they look like that? And put no effort in? Fricking ugly freaks.
Troops are literally just incels with diplomatic immunity, the less they pass the better, also general laziness
Out of curiosity I have to ask the question on everyone’s mind: are you a manlet?
Yes, 5'7
Tragic. Did you at least pass while trooning out?
there are no passing trannies. with makeup, photoshop and filters, you can make a picture of Brian Shaw looking like a hot woman
Cool.
Get back on hrt
then you have no right to call anyone an ugly freak. manlets are subhuman
I'm the actual person you're respond to, i'm 6 feet but when i went on hormones i shrunk 2 inches due to pelvic tilt (it reversed when i went off hrt and did stretching exercises).
I wanted to be a chick since I was 15 and I looked like a soft male still in my late 20s, but I decided not to continue hrt because I would miss looking and being treated as a man as I had grown used to being male. Plus I love food, and men can eat more food without gaining weight like women.
The permanent effect from hrt was gyno, but im getting surgery in a few months to remove it, cant wait to have a flat chest.
Did amyone ever offer you steroids/TRT before they offered you estrogen?
Steroids!? Those things are harmful anon, you can permanently change your endocrine system with those. Much safer to seek gender-affirming care
You can get "sports trt" - ie mild steroid blast just as easily as you can get troony hormones. The medical profession make money from and are incentivised to peddle both.
What made you think you wanted to be a troon out in the first place?
Were there any permanent effects from the HRT?
>freak calls someone else a freak
Wtf
Look up transvoicelessons on YouTube. Trannies are just by nature gross, but some try way harder than others. I don’t support the whole troony thing but I at least appreciate the ones that try to not look and sound like a walking abomination.
I'm the first poster and THIS, is the answer.
If you're going to be a troony, put the fricking work into it and make sure you have a decent base to start off with, otherwise, don't bother, you'll look like an abomination.
>gatekeeping troonyism
i cannot stop laughing
kys homosexual. trannies are disgusting abominations, not something to put work into. none pass
They just hyperfixated on a specific spot as proof of their feminity
>t. gay who's delusional about the amount of muscle he holds
They are literally mental ill. It's that simple. It's like asking the crackhead why he thinks that he is the reincarnation of Christ.
average zoomer
>Turned out I didn't want to be a troony
what made you change your mind ?
I already said why earlier but it was mostly missing what I looked like when I had testosterone, missing being treated male, and being able to eat more and having more energy.
My energy levels plummeted on estrogen, women are a lot weaker.
I'm happy being male, but ocassionally I wish I could temporarily switch to being a hot chick, although that isn't worth going on hormones getting surgery for.
it's weird hearing this when everytime i hear about detransition, it's always either '' they NEVER regret it '' or '' i was FORCED to go back to a man because i was never accepted as a female''
i mean, you basicaly detrooned because you liked food more that being a gurl
Men can get away with eating a big burger and fries and then having the energy to do 1 hour and a half of cardio. I missed that.
Also the main reason I detransitioned was because I missed looking masculine. I've always been told I'm very handsome and I missed my looks.
I could've looked like a pretty good looking chick had I stayed on the hormones and got surgery, but it wasn't for me. My face has a mix of masculine and soft features naturally.
I still support transgender rights, at least for those who actually don't want to look like abominations like in OP's pic.
God, I bet you're so gross looking.
Quite the opposite, LMAO
>trust me
>Why the FRICK do people transition when they look like that? And put no effort in? Fricking ugly freaks.
Because, like ALL trannies, they're simply deranged fetishists.
i wish granny’s were cool. it’s such a punk concept. but they’re all fricking gross and annoying.
Frick you my grandma's awesome love hanging out free food warm sweater
trannies. the new ios auto correct was touted as a feature but it’s continuously fricking me over i hate it so much
It's not a punk concept, it's a profoundly capitalist commodification and objectification of human identity. In the same way that a troony will never be a woman, a six-figure plastic surgery and prescription drug regimen will never be fricking punk, ever. It's plastic corporate homosexualry and always has been.
disagree. reveling against your fundamental biology is punk
If anything it's gommunist and it is contingent upon the assumption that men and women are fundamentally identical and one can easily substitute for the other.
/thread
this
You could argue cross-dressing and rebelling against societal roles and concepts with little to none base in reality is punk, but against reality is as punk as healing crystals, incense sticks and believing in the Immaculate Conception, so not at all.
frick, meant
/thread
omg the arbiter on what is punk and what isn't logged onto IST today, awesome!
see
i'll trust Kurt over a stranger on IST
Hes crossdressing not trooning out you stupid frick
He went out like a troony xDDDD
A rcoward who couldn't hack it at life? lol go ahead.
Kurt isn't being a troony, you moron. He's putting on a dress for a laugh
>be Kurt
>get called a homosexual daily for the first couple of decades of your life
>be edgy and wear a dress on stage as a response
Literally 99.9% of Nirvana's output is based on Kurt getting bullied to frick and getting called a homosexual as a kid, this is a response to that it's not trooning out in any way shape or form, it's not even crossdressing tbf.
he wore panties until courtney made him stop kek he was very agp
There are cool frickable trannies out there
Like the frickable farm animals?
>being mentally ill is punk!
>troons aren't a total nonsense, I don't like them because they're gross and annoying
Do you think people are there to entertain you, moronic zoomer?
Who cares if they annoy you. They will never be a woman and a problem to society for preying children. We don't care about your homosexual subjective bullshit.
kys
>good back lifts that aren't deadlifts
Good mornings
bent over rows with any implement you like. Cambered bar, db's, ez curl bar supinated(a favorite of mine), etc
pullovers
pull-ups
machine rows
lat pull downs
low back machines
shrugs
kelso shrugs
do you really think that homosexual OP made this thread to talk about deadlifting?
why do you people obsess over trannies so much?
i bet most of you have never seen a trannie irl
Sadly I have.
I did some stupid shit before the trans thing popped off and ended up in a mental health facility for reasons.
There was 27 year old MTF there named 'Emily' that groomed a literal 1/10 kissless virgin 18 year old femcel into a relationship. Pure predatory behavior.
There was also a FTM, but those are to be pitied.
Also an anime gay from there decided to become 'Ruby' and posted on Facebook about wearing a bra for the first time.
>Pure predatory behavior.
i.e. they looked at their phone while ypu silently judged them from across the room
>i.e. they looked at their phone while ypu silently judged them from across the room
>that psycho wasn't the predator but you were for daring to think he was
>Crazy people (like me) aren't the problem, mental health facilities are the problem because… you would only have a tap on the wrist!
I hope you two have a nice day and leave the rest of us safe.
>and ended up in a mental health facility for reasons.
You didn't do shit. Secure mental health facilities are the biggest predators of all, they're a cash grab. They pick on the weakest of society, convince them they have something wrong with them and feed them pharma. Sometimes they have trouble recruiting mental health victims so they just grab anyone in a vulnerable situation from the public.
They probably told you something like "better here than in prison for what you did", when probably you would have gotten a slap on the wrist. It's like a quasi justice system. Mental health facilities are scary institutions not from the vast majority of people inside but from the people running them, they should be totally illegal.
I see quite a lot of them regularly, they're ok and I have nothing against them. Trannies on the Internet however are simply insufferable.
No need to be obsessed about anything to know that
>someone with a wiener and testicle is a man
>someone with a vegana and boobs is a woman
It's basic biology, even a 5yo knows it. And that
>people feeling otherwise suffer from gender dysphoria
Which is a long known mental illness. A society normalizing it is ~~*ill*~~ as well
Why is it ill now? Why the most advanced civilization is suddenly pushed to promote homosexuality, mental illness and importing the poorest populations on the globe, getting great replaced? Suddenly they chose to kill themselves as a people. Hm?
What powerful group owning the medias would do that? What group would hate white people for killing them during WWII?
I wonder, really.
pure cohencidence
being harassed to call a man in a dress a woman is agression
Have you seen an Adolf Hitler in real life? No? Oh so you can't actually have an opinion on him, sweaty.
What percentage of trannies got molested when they were children?
For MtF not as many as you would think. For FtM 100%.
About the same percentage as other groups.
All of them get E-molested only a small part get molested irl
>What are some good back lifts that aren't deadlifts
Power clean.
I have the same hairline. is it over? I'm trying to use RU58841,topical dut after microneedling and 5mg of oral minox for a year, then get a hair transplant
Reverse hyper(extensions).
Hyperextension with bands and/or a weight in your hands and/or a weight vest.
What a waste of a bull neck
honestly if he weren't bald I wouldn't think he wasn't a fat, ugly, masculine woman
But that's just a picture, you can't hide stuff like height and bone structure (shoulder width) IRL
He literally looks like a fat guy with a pony tail