>0 lifting culture
>diet high in processed carbs
>healthiest, longest living nation in the world
Explain why I should take IST advice instead of the Japan pill
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>0 lifting culture. >diet high in processed carbs. >healthiest, longest living nation in the world
You shouldn't. Eat like the Japanese and work 16 hour shifts 6 days per week
>work 16 hour shifts 6 days per week
That's standard corpodronery at any large business m8. All my friends at big accounting, finman, law and engineering firms were working 12+ hours days for about 5 years
why would you do this to yourselves?
i repopulate post-industrial areas with lizards for a living. feed them, build tiny homes for them. I work 35h a week and get 40 days of vacation a year while making 61k a year where I already have no idea how to spent it so it just sits in a bank account
If they don't someone else well and they'll get the boot. Also most were on equivalent of around 100,500USD. However, if you break that down to hourly it's barely above retail minimum wage here.
>I already have no idea how to spent it so it just sits in a bank account
Cash for rainy day.
In my case my retirement money given by government probably won't be enough.
>i repopulate post-industrial areas with lizards for a living
lolwut, who's paying you for this?
How does one get such a job?
>already have no idea how to spent it so it just sits in a bank account
You shouldn't big amounts of cash sitting in a bank account for years.
¿por que no los dos?
based. bros I want them to have more babies anime, sushi, sumo, I love Japan period
>>0 lifting culture
I follow a japanese bodybuilder on IG wtf
Me too man, me too.
average Yakuza boss
>no ink
shamefur dispuray.
>be small
>don't burn energy
>body doesn't need to repair itself
>dna never breaks down
>live long
It the candle idea.
Candles that burn brighter, hotter, or have a bigger flame don't last as long.
It's a strategy but you need plenty of things to go right for it to work.
>you are now having an existential crisis about your DNA breaking down in time
I am the youngest in my family. All my life I've been losing loved ones. My people are suffering the same fate. The government is merrily handing out our history and resources. I am seeing the liars and criminals being rewarded with success as the culture of "live quietly and let live" is being removed from existence. I have no future, no choice and no voice. I used to fear death and entropy. Now it is what substitutes hope for me. That one day all these evil people, their ill-gotten goods and their works will be swallowed by death and entropy and the board will be wiped clean. I would kill myself if it would wound my few remaining loved ones and satisfy the people who hate me. I will live as long as possible out of spite.
tl;dr don't worry about it.
Crap I meant to say if it wouldn't wound my loved ones. Anyway, my point is that by the time it's your time, you'll be probably ready to go and your last breath will be a sigh of relief.
Worry about the quality of your flame.
Based candle shielder
this is not how life works at all and its that exact analogy that has led to most misconceptions about longevity and health
in biology, the candle that burns the brightest lasts the longest
the more energy you produce, the more electrons flowing through oxphos metabolism, the more the structure of the cell is upheld and maintained
even on a purely mechanistic level, all the proteins which compose and maintain the cell rely on atp and if there is a deficiency in energy then they will not be able to properly maintain the cell
the cell will prioritise its basic survival and sacrifice its more differentiated and energetically expensive functions, much like how in a hypothermic organism the frontal lobe is the first thing to shut down and peripheral tissues are starved of blood to preserve the central organs
in extreme cases of energy deficiency, once the cell has dismantled enough of its function, it is left in its most primitive state where all it does is grow and divide (while relying entirely on glycolysis)
this is cancer
im amazed at how confidently you stated this completely backwards misconception, your post is perfect satire
read ray peat
>blah blah blah
>cells don't break blah blah
Ok.
>in extreme cases of energy deficiency, once the cell has dismantled enough of its function, it is left in its most primitive state where all it does is grow and divide (while relying entirely on glycolysis)
and unironically energy deficit(no freely flowing glucose) is what kills of those cells, as they cannot utilize fat for fuel. Only glucose and glutamate if I remember correctly.
Thus we get
>hard times, lead to strong cells, because all the weak and cancer die off, no longer burdening the system with their metaphorical and literal cancer, we get good times.
>and unironically energy deficit(no freely flowing glucose) is what kills of those cells, as they cannot utilize fat for fuel. Only glucose and glutamate if I remember correctly.
completely wrong and this thinking is why cancer treatment is so ineffective its barbaric
cancer cells use an excess of glucose BECAUSE their mitochondrial metabolism is so damaged in the first place, ie glycolysis is so ineffecient that the cell must consume far more glucose just to survive
and like I explained before, the reason why mitochondrial OXPHOS metabolism is disfunctional/shut down in the first place is bc of a nutritional and energetic deficiency
ie not enough energy and cofactors to keep mitochondria running means the cell shuts down mitochondria and relies on primitive glycolysis, which means even less energy output and the cell gets "stuck" unable to use/maintain mitochondria---its a downward spiral
to put it simply: hard times do not make strong cells, hard times make weak cells (which should be intuitively obvious)
even more interestingly, glucose metabolism is severely damaged in cancer cells while LIPID metabolism is untouched
starving the cells of glucose does not address the fact that cancer cells are perfectly capable of utilising fat
restoring OXPHOS metabolism in cancer cells is sufficient to cause them to apoptose
theres a 2019 paper that showed this conclusively and was published in Nature
but otto warberg had already shown this to be the case nearly a century ago
ie restoring proper glucose metabolism kills cancer
in any case, starving the organism of glucose only creates the preconditions (the metabolic deficiencies) that led to cancer in the first place. So EVEN IF you were to kill existing cancer cells this way, youre inducing healthy cells to become cancer cells. It's like wack-a-mole, you knock down some cancer cells and 10 more rise in its place. Its fricking moronic
>completely wrong and this thinking is why cancer treatment is so ineffective its barbaric
Black person please, mainstream cancer treatment does not use fasting to frick with cancer cells and decrease chemo side effects. Mainstream cancer treatment is entirely on your side.
>cancer cells use an excess of glucose BECAUSE their mitochondrial metabolism is so damaged in the first place, ie glycolysis is so ineffecient that the cell must consume far more glucose just to survive
If you think cells only get damaged from "not getting enough sugar" then you are funny, considering there is a vast array of cell damage that can occur, and most of the time the body just tells the cell to die and get replaced by more healthy shit, or the cell does some internal repair. But out of the vast array of things that can frick up a cell, and repair a cell, your only focus is moar sugar? wtf.
>and like I explained before, the reason why mitochondrial OXPHOS metabolism is disfunctional/shut down in the first place is bc of a nutritional and energetic deficiency
okay, easy enough to test, just put somebody into starvation and see if their cancer cell amount increases or decreases.
Based on your theory, it should increase. Based on my it should decrease.
>to put it simply: hard times do not make strong cells, hard times make weak cells (which should be intuitively obvious)
Hard times clean house and periodic harsh conditions is needed to remove the trash and cancer both on a celular level and national.
Abundance and excess consistently, is what permits dysfunction to survive, be it cancer cells that need glucose to survive and cant into using ketones for energy. Or beurocratic parasities who have in no way any interest in keeping the nation and it's people thriving and could not survive harsh conditions, only cozy excess where no real work needs to be done to survive.
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>even more interestingly, glucose metabolism is severely damaged in cancer cells while LIPID metabolism is untouched
literally the opposite.
You literally contradict yourself from earlier in the post
>cancer cells use an excess of glucose BECAUSE their mitochondrial metabolism is so damaged in the first place, ie glycolysis is so ineffecient that the cell must consume far more glucose just to survive
Look. Look! The frick are you schizoing at me.
>starving the cells of glucose does not address the fact that cancer cells are perfectly capable of utilising fat
No they aren't.
>
in any case, starving the organism of glucose only creates the preconditions (the metabolic deficiencies) that led to cancer in the first place
I don't subscribe to the idea that healthy cells need to be drowned in sugar to be healthy, its just the opposite. Metabolically health cells can utilize multiple fuel sources efficiently, you want those to survie. The cancer, the unhealthy, Needs glucose to be flooded into the system because it's functioning anaerobically and cannot burn fat for fuel. Those faulty cells need to die.
So this notion that having cells utilize fuel sources they were designed to do is going to give them cancer, but also it kills cancer cells is illogical shit.
I heard all the unhealthy ones have to off themselves or something.
Suicides are still included in average age of death
Yeah but if all the unhealthy ones have to off then they end up with less disease and shit.
If your goal is to live the longest, maybe you should take the Jap pill. I'd rather live until my late 70s but be swole
I just want to be physically and mentally capable to the very end.
I have older relatives who barely can move or worse, need someone's help for simplest things. Being trapped in your own body must be true hell.
https://www.dw.com/en/japan-whats-behind-okinawans-falling-life-expectancy/a-62088176
>An influx of foreign influences, ranging from fast food to less exercise, the stress of modern life, as well as a loss of the traditional sense of 'ikigai' in younger people are all to blame.
>"The life expectancy of the people of Okinawa is coming down quite rapidly and we believe the problem is that younger people have failed to follow in the footsteps of earlier generations," said Suzuki, who still works part time as a clinical cardiologist and is joint-founder of the Naha-based Okinawa Research Center for Longevity Sciences.
>"The people of Okinawa have been influenced by the food and lifestyle choices of other societies, particularly that of the United States," he told DW.
>"Typically, the Okinawan diet included lots of vegetables, local fruit, dishes such as ‘tofu' and fish and meat, although in small portions," he said, adding: "When I was a boy, we had meat about once a week and that is a habit I have stuck with to this day."
>NA influence in Japan at it's peak
>this happens
>When I was a boy, we had meat about once a week and that is a habit I have stuck with to this day
Post WW2 okinawan diet is much different to the pre WW2, which was much more full of meat. Life expectancy going down is to be expected as they reduce meat consumption
this.
I saw a figure that said modern young japanese women are eating less protein than the average citizen in the post war occupation when people were literally starving to death lol
japanese people now consume less protein than they ever have
god i bet they are so weak and light i could carry like three to my cave
>low obesity rate
>massive anti obesity/exercise culture
>wonder why they live longer
This. Do you know how much Japanese women obsess about their weight and waistline? Fitness and healthy weight is very culturally ingrained as a female beauty ideal.
Hell, I can't tell you how many animes there are where a woman steps on a scale, panics when the number comes up, and starts a weight loss stint. And guess what, there isn't an uproar from a mob of wokefats about "fatshaming" when it happens.
>just like in my chinese cartoons!!
theyre eating less carbs and more meat and fat than decades ago and their life expectancy still is going up it seems
>and their life expectancy still is going up it seems
Except it isn't, see
Meat consumption is closely correlated with mortality. Wake up c**ts.
>implying it isn't pufas
Average bodyfat percentage in Japanese men is like 25%. That's higher than sumo wrestlers. It's an entire country of skinnyfat midgets. No wonder their women love white men.
>That's higher than sumo wrestlers
You're shitting me, right?
As someone who lives in Japan, his whole post is utter bullshit
Yeah, thought the same. Otherwise Japs would be fat like Americans
lots of people are saying nonsense in this thread but the reality is life expectancy is mainly genetic + quality of healthcare. That's why latin america keeps a good life expectancy and why black people across all countries have low life expectancy.
>gets digits
>tells truth
Since when do hispanics have good genes
Since IST became 53% beans
Hybrid vigor
>have to survive off conbini for a month
>first thing in the morning, every morning, the smell of hot stale oil hits you in the face like a chlorine bomb
>walk along the aisles to select which variation of rice-based dish you want for you first meal (and every other meal that day)
>fruit does not appear to exist, nor do green vegetables, breads, or anything you might possibly enjoy
Go to a supermarket moron, life, summit, belc, seiyu, etc
Does tokyo have supermarkets? None of the stores you mentioned are within walking distance to my hotel
go donki
Yes. Give city, tokyo is far too vague as it consists of iver 23 cities
>>have to survive off conbini for a month
it's like trying to survive off a gas station, of course you'll never find anything fresh
but protein drink are a thing you know ?
The conbini bentos have relatively healthy choices.
I lived in Korea for 5 months during a student exchange and ate convenience store bentos probably 5 times a week for dinner
Stop being so picky
seethe some more weebs and keep coping that you can somehow live a healthy lifestyle worth living in that dystopian megalopolis
the latter is walkable; ergo better (and fitter too)
The caligraphy is Oriental countries is more aesthetic than the Latin ABC
You can’t stop me from enjoying Eastern culture and architecture and city planning, images like these only fuel my desire to continue traveling to Japan and Korea, knowing you’re feeling superior while rotting away in your hole, brings me such joy.
have you fricking read my message ? , i'm saying that living off combini food is unhealthy as it can be in japan and everyone agree on that even in glorious nippon land
Nationalities aside, top pic fatty gets in a car and gets a shitty fast food meal, bottom pic you walk around and get some proper food.
Brainlet
I fricking hate Japan and I hate every single weeb.
Wish NK turned it into glass already
only closet weebs feel this strongly about japan and weebs
its just cico
Jap portion sizes are much smaller.
They are also more dependent upon public transport, meaning they do infinitely more walking than the average mart shatter.
You're moronic.
Truth. CICO is king
They're eating less carbs and calories than ever, with their diabetes, cancer and obesity rates skyrocketing.
It's all pufa oil.
That's why obesity in USA started to rise since crisco was introduced
It's an abundance of omega-6 fatty acids, mostly linoleic acid, and to a lesser extent oxidized omega-3 fatty acids that are peddled as healthy. The former is always inflammatory and the latter is beneficial when fresh and somewhat inflammatory when oxidized.
Take rapeseed for example. As a ratio, 1:2 omega-3 to omega-6 is actually pretty alright. Then you realize that together they comprise 30% of the fatty acids in the oil and unlike those ever-popular fish oil supplements or olive oil that the government tells you to store in a cool and dry space and consume quickly to avoid oxidation, the oil you just consumed was solvent extracted, bleached and boiled to shit to make it flavorless and shelf stable resulting in it being 100% oxidized and losing any semblance of positive effects it might have once had if consumed in tiny amounts.
>microplastics everywhere
>high alcohol consumption
>everyone smokes
I'm thinking it's just genetics at this point
Psyop thread. I will not be eating the carbs.
>No time to eat or work out
>Only soul-crushing cubicle work
Dreams
>walk everywhere
>eat super healthy except including rice
One of the highest rates of diabetes
People are tortured by advanced medicine to live another decade with diseases that woud kill you in other countries.
Only places that eat sweet potato instead of rice and do manual labor actually live long.
>healthiest
yet i look better, lift more and could frick literally any i want
>bullies fat people into suicide
Japan is fricking based.
they teach how to cook healthy in schools and have mandatory medical check-ups for adults to plan out their diet
it seems their medical industry focus on cheap prevention with increasing public awareness instead of costly treatment
meanwhile western doctors are tought and paid to recommend pharmaceuticals that won't fix anything long-term
>japanese
>christian
The current fastest growing Christian community is south korea
Up to 3 million native Christians in Japan. They outlawed it for 200 years and anyone caught was brutally executed. Now they're a small minority, but Japanese people love their wedding ceremonies too.
Not only is Christianity becoming more popular in places like Japan and (especially) South Korea, being a Christian is often a mark of high social status.
~~*High social status*~~
Japan will die in the next 50 years on its own if it's not dragged down by US.
Oh no, not the dreaded echo.
What makes you think Japan is going to die? Is it a misguided notion that endless expansion is the only way for a country (ie, economy...wait, are you sure the echo doesn't fit better around your name?) to exist? I suspect the country that's been around for thousands of years and survived far worse than a more sustainable economy will continue on. And before you go off thinking I'm some weeb, the US will survive just fine as well.
Yeh ok.
The economy is great, choosing to not be cancerous is ideal.
Change, even if in name only, leads to more change.
Which is why the israelites in the US are whining about birth rates in Nihon right now.
It probably won't be less than 50 years. But the path to self annihilation is in view
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The US is in much more danger. I seriously doubt it will last as it is.
The birthrate shit's an old hat. The population loss is not a huge deal and Japan will still be full of people even with the decline. And at that point Japan will become a more prosperous society.
The irony is that asiatics are so submissive during sex that they're boring.
>processed carbs
wat
White rice...
Do you actually know what processes are involved in making white rice?
Step 1. remove rice from grass by whacking them against a rock
Step 2. wet the rice and rub them against each other to remove the bran
By that logic, bananas are processed carbs because you pick them off the tree and take the peel off.
>diet high in processed carbs
Food in Japan is expensive. They also do not eat much.
Simple as.
It's significantly cheaper than here.
t. Ausgay
Meat is way WAY more expensive in Japan
t. Ausgay in Japan
This might sound autistic because it is but I think countries with low crime/ violence don't lift as much since they don't need the muscle to fight/defend themselves from attackers
I’m real Japanese
178cm 83kg 16cm
Konnitiwa senpais
based nipponking
>The population loss is not a huge deal and Japan will still be full of people even with the decline.
>Japan's population peaked in 2009 with 128.56 mn people after Japan's population decreased year by year. The Japanese population is projected to reach 120.76 million in 2030 and decrease further to 105.80 million in 2050.
The Bank of Japan is already has debt up to the gills trying to keep their stock market afloat, and without any meaningful growth its just going to get worse. Japan maintains high living standards for as long as the markets allow their debt bubble to continue. More importantly than total population is working age population, which is going down quicker.
>Anon compliments dude's physique
>Autismo brings up statistics.
I linked to the wrong post, I meant
Debt is a israelite trick.
If debt is a israelite trick then the Japanese have been tricked a largr amount and will pay the price bigly
Well, yeah
The same is true for literally every developed nation. US debt per capita is around 3x that of japan: 92k vs 29k
Debt to GDP is more relevant
>filename
autist
youve obviously never read any of Gengoroh Tagame's work
its what got me into lifting
It's thanks to guys like him that being super buff is associated with homosexualry in Japan
I'm traveling to Japan in Sept
Can't wait to mogg
>>0 lifting culture
but there is a lifting culture in japan anon, but it's a gay one, a very very hard gay one
Woketards got to HG recently and made him change his name :'(
What if I told you a culture could be better than all other countries' cultures for health but not actually the absolute healthiest way to live?
Isn’t running very big in japan. Ive read that the Japanese really like long distance running where they have a marathon that is seen as the Super Bowl for them in how excited they get over it. Swimming also seems pretty popular over there. If you swim and run, that pretty much takes care of everything.
Yes. Marathons are very popular, even in small, older aged rural communities.
the fitness culture is martial arts moron
Because they lost the war.
The answer is always fish
It's the reason both Japs and Italians live so long
Man, I'm paranoid about mercury though. That and parasites, in the case of sushi. I don't get how the Japs think it's so great. It might not be a big risk, but it's still a thing that can happen.
Unless you're eating like two dozen cans of tuna every day you really won't have to worry about mercury poisoning from fish pretty much ever. As for parasites, the risk really isn't any higher than eating rare beef from what I can tell. The real dangerous thing they eat is pufferfish that hasn't been prepared properly to remove the tetrodotoxin, I guess a couple hundred people die from it every year in Japan kek
?? Black person, they eat a lot less processed carbs. moron shill
You aren't Japanese. You don't have japanese genetics.
Dont remind me
>0 lifting culture
homie they work till they die, work burns calories, work keeps you fit.
Plus they are not FIT they are all skinny fat
Big wrestling culture
i rather follow mediterranean lifestyle
bastards picking olives at 40 degrees celsius
old grandpas hitting 80-90 and being strong as frick
they also have good food
anime doesn't reflect reality
it's a propaganda to show japanese in the best light possible
>Explain why I should take IST advice
You shouldn't.
What do you mean?
500 grams of processed food is a lot better than 4000 grams of processed food
Lifting isn't for extreme longevity.
I wonder if we will ever see the day when people realize how much portion sizes matter.
Go look at the average portion size in Japan compared to the US.
>every damn piece of meat is paper thin slices
>gives you shit tons of veggies
I'm dumb for this thread right now. Can I get the answers on:
>Why do Japanese live so long?
>How do I become a weeb?
>How do I develop cellularenergymaxx?
>0 lifting culture
ONEGAI MUSCLE