>1 year results from Finasteride from 22 year old

>1 year results from finasteride from 22 year old
holy frick, that's it I'm taking fin

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ok

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/c5MWprC.jpg

      Finasteride can save your hair if you're young and can help you keep a full head of hair for a lifetime, anyone saying otherwise is coping. You have a lot of baldcels on IST who want others to be miserable like them, I am glad I started taking it, already recover from a NW2 and on my way to NW1 with increase density and hairline regrowth

      The trade off is permanently losing your ability to get a boner

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You weren't gonna use that dick anyways if you were bald lol, let's be real.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ive been taking fin for 1.5 years now and my dick works the same, 100%, you are a coping blackpilling baiting moronic homosexual spouting shitty memes

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          baldcels are crabs, they want more people to be bald like them and the way they go about it is by lying about side effects so people don't even try to save their hair

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it definitely lowered my semen volume but it doesnt matter, if you don have hair no women want you anyways

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it definitely lowered my semen volume
            >i-it doesn't matter !
            sure, wonder how this will end after decades of taking a hormone-blocking pill almost every day

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Lol this balding homosexual is shitting his pants because he's realizing that he's *fricked*

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >dick stops working = you don't give a shit about women
        >dick doesn't stop working = you can frick all the baddies you pull
        Sounds like a win-win situation to me

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah and your ass falls off too

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Topical fin/min spray. No sexual side effects at all.

      • 4 weeks ago
        PineappleMango

        youre a lier

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this, plus i got post finasteride syndrome for 5 years from it and i could only cure it with a fecal matter transplant.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          nocebo, once the fin wears off your hormones go back to normal and all side effects go away. how does it feel to have wasted 5 years of your life and had some random dude’s shit inserted into you due to having a weak paranoid mind?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm on dutasteride and my boners could crush coal into diamond. Skill issue.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've been taking dutasteride (which is much more potent than finasteride btw) for over 2 years and still jerk off 3-5 times a DAY. I still cum buckets, I still can get any boners I want.
        I'm certain there are some tiny amount of people that have some side effects, which can be reversed by stopping the medication. That's it. There are dozens of studies with trials and even meta studies that show this.
        At this point, the people fear mongering finasteride/dutasteride are baldies that want others to also fail. Misary loves company.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm a literal mtf troony on full T blockers and my dick still works
        if fin has any effect on you you're just a beta b***h

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Post a picture of your hard dick and your boy pussy while wearing a pink bow you homosexual.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't have any of the listed side effects from fin. My hairline has held up more than anything. I have diffuse thinning and only recently added minoxidil. A lot of people say my baldness is reversing. Not my mom or me reassuring myself in the mirror. My coworkers ask me "Is your hair thicker?" This is after about 8 months on minoxidil. Been on fin for probaby 7-9 years, can't recall exactly when I started. Should have started 3 years sooner though. The only thing I've noticed is that there are sometimes globs or "boogers" of gel like discharge in my semen. These can cause some discomfort if I don't ejaculate regularly. I tried to nofap for a month and when I resumed it was like a painful blockage getting pushed free. It caused pressure to build up and my jizz probably went 4.5 feet. Like blowing a cork out of your dick. So I don't try to nofap anymore to avoid that happening. Otherwise everything is normal.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >globs or "boogers" of gel like discharge in my semen
          you have an STD

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            LMAO, no I don't. Try googling it. Not even sure it is related to finasteride but only started noticing it after taking the drug.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Should have started 3 years sooner though
          >tfw should have started literally 20 years ago
          started visibly balding in my early teens but by some miracle I'm still not fully bald in my mid thirties despite not doing anything until last October, first RU and oral/topical minox, then added topical dut, which I swapped to oral fin a week ago. I'd say I'm Norwood 3-4 anterior with a diffuse thinning, but I'm not sure how much of the thinning is from a shed, because I'm buzzing my hair, so I can't notice any strands of hair falling out, and I didn't take any before pics until about a month in, like a moron. hoping to get at least some further regrowth (so far got some new thin hairs around the hairline) and get a transplant once it stabilizes. hopefully verteporfin becomes more common soon

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it isn't, unless you're so lowtest, you're on the verge of ED already
        > A study by Marberger et al, attempted to determine this relationship and determined sexual function was more apparent with testosterone levels below 224ng/dL.55 Furthermore, men with lower baseline testosterone scores experienced more adverse sexual effects than males with normal range testosterone levels suggesting that baseline testosterone levels may be useful when considering treatment with 5ARI in patients with possible low testosterone.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Skill issue that maybe 1% of people who are already genetic dead ends get. It makes your jizz into water though.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Finasteride can save your hair if you're young and can help you keep a full head of hair for a lifetime, anyone saying otherwise is coping. You have a lot of baldcels on IST who want others to be miserable like them, I am glad I started taking it, already recover from a NW2 and on my way to NW1 with increase density and hairline regrowth

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/Wa0Y5jB.jpg

      >1 year results from finasteride from 22 year old
      holy frick, that's it I'm taking fin

      >6 posts, 5 posters
      Why don't you just go to the gym, stupid homosexual

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Im def nw2. maybe going to nw3.

      Its getting bad and I cant really force myself to use those shitty essential oils every day then wash my hair every day.

      Im on the brink of hopping on finasteride but the doctors are ass and dont wanna help.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Same, but at least try the hair growth stimulant on actifolic, it has indeed anti androgen blocking properties so its still better than nothing

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I cant really force myself to use those shitty essential oils every day then wash my hair every day
        they won't do shit anyway, especially if you're approaching Norwood 3. they won't hurt as an adjunct to an actual hairloss stack I guess and they smell nice, but without something like fin or ru58841, don't even bother. they're pretty decent for fungal skin issues though

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same dude. When sweating my hairline got exposed hard and the top of my head looked terrible. But now when I sweat my hair just looks wet cause it’s thicker. I don’t have my hairline fully recovered but I see the baby hairs coming in. I’m excited

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lol, the shit like saw palmetto really adds to the meme
      saved

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Except you won't post hair with a timestamp. I wonder why that is?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This.
      Being bald and ugly nowadays is a choice.
      If you meet a baldcuck on the street, he made a CHOICE to become bald and ugly.
      I refuse to be shackled to my genetics and my destiny, I will defeat the norwood reaper.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're already balding an ugly. That's why you can't post hair with timestamp. All those androgen blockers are going to do wreck your body and mind while still being bald.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous
          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >stand proud
            >you're bald

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Kek based. Baldcels will cope and seethe, but deep down they're just fragile children that yearn for the admiration that hairchads get

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >hairline

            lmfao buddy's going bald, too

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You can't even see his hairline homie.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            AHAHAH BALDCELS COULD NEVER

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          why would anyone bother fulfilling requests of some malding troony when it's worth taking finasteride even regardless of balding for natural testosterone boost, general health and longetivity?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      troonypillcels keep shilling for it yet they never post pictures of these "progresses", many such cases!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >pic
      True in most cases. Everyone acts like balding is not a big deal until it happens to them.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >thinking fin will save him
    >not willing to do whatever it takes
    ngmi

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      prove that's from fin lmaooo

      [...]
      The trade off is permanently losing your ability to get a boner

      I have not lost my boner and I'm hornier than ever

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >prove its from fin
        Its not but the true redpill is fin is just a temporary solution if you have the baldcel genes. Either you get the snip or byebye hair

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >fin is just a temporary solution
          You're thinking of minox.
          Fin in most cases will be enough to keep balding away for at least 10 years, and then there's dut if you think fin stops working.
          >b-b-but I'll be balding and ugly at 60 though!
          Yeah just like 99% of men.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    IST - fitness

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6459338/
    >Finesteride and dutesteride can cross the blood brain barrier

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamadermatology/article-abstract/2772818
    >suicidality and psychological adverse events were associated with finasteride use in patients younger than 45 years who used finasteride for alopecia. The sensitivity analyses suggest that these disproportional signals of adverse events may be due to stimulated reporting and/or younger patients being more vulnerable to finasteride’s adverse effects.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33814544/
    >The findings support a growing impression that finasteride is associated with adverse psychiatric effects that can persist in association with sexual dysfunction after discontinuing finasteride treatment.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5023004/
    >Sexual effects including erectile dysfunction and decreased libido and ejaculate were reported in as many as 3.4 to 15.8 percent of men.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24012200/
    >Finasteride, even at low doses, may cause reduced sperm counts in some men. In this population, counts improved dramatically for the majority of men after finasteride discontinuation. The hormone parameters, sperm motility, and sperm morphology were unchanged after cessation. Finasteride should be discontinued in subfertile men with oligospermia, and used with caution in men who desire fertility.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      all of these "studies" have been disprove by kevin mann and the wider scientific community though ever

      Is it just me or does finastride sound like something the devil would offer you?
      >It will save your hair
      >But the price is it will kill your dick

      it doesnt kill your dick that's a lie

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >every study citing negative fin sides has been disproven by a vegan youtuber who has to cope with taking fin for life after 2 hair transplants
        poetry

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >all of these "studies" have been disprove by kevin mann
        he's a israelite?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the gigachad specific studies proving that finastride is castration vs the virgin scientific comunity and some random dude says it's safe (he posts no source btw)

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm already a father of three and my wife and I have a dead bedroom situation for 2 years now.
      No reason to be afraid of finasteride here!

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I'm already a father of three and my wife and I have a dead bedroom situation for 2 years now.
        >No reason to be afraid of finasteride here!
        Fin will kill your dick and when you go for an affair with your new hair you'll have ED. I'd still do it though. It's either bald + no one wants to frick you or hair + can't get it up. At least you'll get some aesthetic satisfaction from hair.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >bald + no one wants to frick you

          Skill issue. If you work out enough, women will want to frick you even without hair. And the exercise will give you rock hard erections so you can perform well. Im almost 40 and I still morning wood pretty much every day. I wouldnt trade that for hair. Im always surprised when this board is so afraid of embracing an uniquely masculine trait and would rather have man boobs and a wet noodle to avoid it

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This. If there is 1% chance it gives you ed (studies ignore something like 20% decrease in libido, because it' hard to measure and focus only on 100% loss of libido, which ofc will be rare), it's not worth. Just get a hair transplant (lickly, because of dht you have a shit ton of hair on your shoulders and your back) that will last for a decade.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You still need to take fin to maintain a hair transplant or you'll just lose it again rapidly

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Wrong

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No. Transplanted hair is not lost. You just need to use Fin on the hair that remains, or just don't bother (keep your dick working) and get a second transplant after 10 years.

                STOP BEING POOR.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >his dick stops working on fin
                shame about your bad genetics man

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lmao, the donor hair won't magically appear out of nowhere. the back of your head will look like a sieve anyway. most of the transplanted hairs aren't trully dht resistant outside of a very narrow strip that can barely cover a slightly receded hairline. this is what you'll look like.

                STOP BEING moronic

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I've never seen a bald guy getting pussy lol. It's either they're outright crazy coomers or they're in a dead bedroom situation where the wife lost attraction after he went bald.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >If you work out enough, women will want to frick you even without hair
            ahahahahahah
            is this what baldcels are telling themselves these days?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Coping.

            No women 18-22 (the only ones that matter) are attracted to bald headed chrome domes even if you roid yourself up to perfect physique.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            facial hair is a uniquely masculine trait. male pattern baldness is a uniquely masculine affliction, just like alopecia arreata is an affliction. and no man with the testosterone levels higher than the rock bottom has to worry about fin sexual sides

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              none of those things you just said are true, aside from alopecia being an affliction

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >A study by Marberger et al, attempted to determine this relationship and determined sexual function was more apparent with testosterone levels below 224ng/dL.55 Furthermore, men with lower baseline testosterone scores experienced more adverse sexual effects than males with normal range testosterone levels suggesting that baseline testosterone levels may be useful when considering treatment with 5ARI in patients with possible low testosterone.
          it's just you. sorry you had to find out this way

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        how does dead bedroom happen? Did you get tired of getting shot down by her or are you not attracted to her anymore?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >how
          Years, kids and she is fricking boring in bed, so it became a chore. Anyways, she already hit the wall, so I don't care much.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I feel bad for your wife, it's a truly miserable life you must be living

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I’m up to 5 years. Not him but it sneaks up on you, once you lose the intimacy it’s awkward to bring it back. They become a roommate.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The new relationship energy wears off. A lot of people rely on lust to be the primary driver for physical intimacy in their relationship. Eventually, lust wears off as you get used to the sight and feel of your partner's body.

          For some people, it's easy to maneuver from lust based intimacy to comfort/familiarity based intimacy. Other people (mostly women) struggle to feel aroused in the absence of lust, which is why most dead bedrooms start with the woman gradually losing interest in the man.

          This is why it's so common to hear the story "we fricked like rabbits for the first 3-6 months and then suddenly it was like they completely lost interest in me"

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Let me guess. All funded by the Post Finasteride Foundation?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the actual rate of adverse events is closer to 2% and is experienced usually by men with testosterone levels below 224ng/dL
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5023004/
      >Finesteride and dutesteride can cross the blood brain barrier
      neurosteroids are transfered by 5ar type 1, finasteride blocks 5ar type 2, so there goes the whole neurosteroids depression bullshit. moreover, dutasteride does block 5ar type 1 and it doesn't have a higher incidence of side effects than finasteride

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I started taking finesteride since I was 25, With relatively high dose (5 mg) because I'm too lazy to break the pill.
      Now I'm 35, so far I havn't killed myself, and my dick still work.
      My hypothesis those people were already psychologically liable, and losing hair is what made them seek help, since I don't really care if I lose my hair or not, but prefer to have it.
      And that's where all the sexual dysfunction comes from.
      I admit my sexual drive went down a bit after the first 3 months after taking it, but I guess I was going through hard time in my life while doing a cut so there's that.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is it just me or does finastride sound like something the devil would offer you?
    >It will save your hair
    >But the price is it will kill your dick

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm taking dutasteride and I got more horny, so I dunno, maybe you guys are just high estrogen and the fin is what breaks the camel's back.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The number of people who have sexual side effects on finasteride are in the low single-digit percent. I believe it's around 3-5%.
      I personally stopped taking finasteride because it made me depressed where I otherwise never experienced depression. My dick was fine after over a year of finasteride.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no, it also increases testosterone and is good for general health and longetivity. worth taking even if you aren't genetically predisposed to hairloss

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        kek

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it also lowered my blood pressure by 20 points, well and far away from hypertension stage 1, I didn't change anything else, it was the fin.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Makes sense. Castrated men are generally much calmer.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            speaking from experience? you must've misread, he said he's taking finastride, i.e. increasing testosterone by 15% and making his balls more efficient, your "gender reasignment" surgery has nothing to do with it

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yeah, it's also great for the heart etc
          https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31300720/

          kek

          did I stutter?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's not a single pill in existence that's good for general health

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"never take the israelitepills. uh except this one that I like"

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If that is real, he is in the upper 0.1% of response.
    For the vast majority of people, a situation like that wont be fixable by just using finasteride

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fin saved my life unironically

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Looks nice

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There will still be a moron saying "nuh uh, that's just different lighting and different hair length, the fin didn't work" lmao.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      FAKE FRICKING FIN SHILL DETECTED

      THIS homie GOT A HAIR TRANSPLANT (of course you could use fin after that to keep the rest of your untransplanted hair) BUT STOP FRICKING WITH THE REST OF US HERE

      You can see in the first pic homie had NO HAIR FOLLICLES in the bald spots, it's completely impossible for fin to bring back lost hair follicles. You got a transplant, homosexual fin shill.

      For anyone here that ACTUALLY took fin for quite some time and received results, do you still continue fin periodically like regular medicine (2 tablets per week etc.) or can you just stop after you've received your results?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        minoxidil is known to turn vellus hairs into terminal ones, but only if they were terminal before, at his stage it's very unlikely that the scalp was truly barren and shiny like decades old baldies tend to be

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I take fin and literally nothing has changed. What else can I take? Minoxidil tablets? Any other meds?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you can also try a topical antiandrogen, e.g. RU58841 (unaproved but effective), Pantostin(alfatradiol), Eucapil(fluridil) (approved in Europe, but much less effective than RU). minox won't hurt either, but the oral one has pretty high incidence of side effects, which aren't dose dependent (5% topical is safe, though, but less effective) and the effects last only as long as you keep using it. I was taking topical for months without any issues other than some lightheadedness at 5mg when I would stand up really fast, but not much of an effect either. there's also stemoxydine, which is a weak growth stimulant, weaker than 2% minox, but has a unique mechanism of action and can be stacked with minox

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >going bald? just take this antiandrogen that inhibits the production of several anticonvulsant neurosteroids
    >brought to you by the same doctors will prescribe you hepatotoxicity-inducing pain relievers and antihistamines, gene-altering corticosteroids and psychosis-causing brain pills and fricking amphetamine
    Thanks I'll rather go bald

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      good for you, women love bald men.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Grim.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >23 year old “adult” wearing a graphic t shirt
        >wearing the incel glasses
        >disgusting ungroomed neckbeard
        >extremely hairy arms caused by excessive masturbation
        >shit tier posture
        Grim, the absolute state of modern “men”. You can see the boomer baldcels actually look decent next to this freakshow due to putting in the slightest modicum of dignity and effort.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That guy is 32, it was a joke
          >le t-shirt
          adult men wear jeans and t-shirts, I'm sorry your little tv shows where everyone has the time to put on a suit for their McWagie jobs doesn't reflect reality

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            there's no age where looking like that is acceptable
            he looks like a dysgenic fat slob

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >he looks like a dysgenic fat slob
              because he's bald. he isn't even particularly fat, by American standards he's basically triathlete kek, his tshirt and glasses are decent and his facial hair is well groomed, the only thing giving him a dysgenic look is his hair

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          bro where tf have you read that jerking off causes hairy arms
          Exactly how moronic are you?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >going bald? just take this antiandrogen that inhibits the production of several anticonvulsant neurosteroids
      blatantly false. neurosteroids are related to 5ar type 1, finasteride blocks 5ar type 2, so there goes the whole neurosteroids depression bullshit. moreover, dutasteride does block 5ar type 1 and it doesn't have a higher incidence of side effects than finasteride
      >brought to you by the same doctors will prescribe you hepatotoxicity-inducing pain relievers and antihistamines, gene-altering corticosteroids and psychosis-causing brain pills and fricking amphetamine
      are you implying that painkillers or antihistamines shouldn't ever be used, or that amphetamine isn't effective? thank the goverment that a very effective and non hepatotoxic pain relief that anyone could grow, like poppies, are banned
      >Thanks I'll rather go bald
      you probably did, that's why you cope

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    These threads are the least productive on this board and makes everyone a catty homosexual.
    Fin is either "the second coming of Christ" or a troony drug that "will make your dick fall off."
    No side is convincing the other. It's just the same shit over and over, like it's an actual AI thread.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >like it's an actual AI thread
      >like
      Anon I dare you do check the archive one day. 20% of the board is the algorithm copying and pasting old threads. Another 20% is bots replying to those threads with copied and pasted responses (also from the archive). No "AI" is needed. The only GPT-generated responses are one-liners that never quote real human bean anons.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    crazy how aggressive fin shills are while claiming to be organic. seriously just buy a fricking ad already, these threads are always the exact same

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fin is literally a israeli psyop to castrate young men and turn them into troons for ZE DOCTORZ to conduct lab tests on in their vile satanic rituals

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw I think I'm a fin non-responder

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I do minox topical and saw palmetto 500mg daily. Was doing minoxidil alone, didn't see any benefits after 6 months so I stopped for a while. Recently restarted, but this time including a multivitamin and saw palmetto.

    About 2 months in now, shedding seems to have nearly stopped only getting a few stray hairs on my brush mostly from brushing out knots. Might not be a meme supplement, dunno if it's regrowing anything yet but it seems to have at least slowed the loss for now.

    Should I try fin? Have read that saw palmetto might interfere so I'd have to quit taking it, but I'm worried since that seems to be the thing actually working for me.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    balding people need to stop with the long as frick hair, its repulsive. You look like Golum, not Aragorn.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Until it gets to a certain point, keeping your hair long is a great way to hide your hair loss. But then you hit the wall and it instantly looks 100x worse to have long hair. That's when you finally shave it off.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bro how many fricking balders are on this board? I’m constantly seeing posts about hair loss n shit. Does ISTness just attract short, balding mf’ers?

    Someone enlighten me

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fit used to be IST - health and fitness before it was just fitness. I think a lot of it's just people still in that mindset that this board has anything to do with anything besides gym culture at this point.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      gymcels

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >A board with a general about roiding
      Fill in the gaps

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        almost makes me think that it’s either the roids or dudes compensating for the hair loss by roiding
        Couldn’t be me. Born to have hair my whole life feels good

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      70% of men experience some form of balding in their life so idk, the odds are 2/3 of the dudes you talk to are bald, balding or will be balding

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That’s by 50 years old, if you’re 21 losing your hair you’re a bit of an unlucky homosexual

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >unlucky homosexual
          We don't sign our posts here.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            kek

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/4wmhCMy.png

            kek

            statistically you’re in the minority, 25% of men start balding by 21, so either u blasted roids and chemicals too hard or you just got really shitty genetics
            Probably both

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous
          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          almost half of men are predisposed to early onset balding and IST doesn't only consist of broccoli haired zoomers

          >unlucky homosexual
          We don't sign our posts here.

          btfo

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      maybe because 80% of men are genetically predisposed to balding, sherlock?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        again, thats by 50 years old and if you are to assume most users who post on IST are under 50 that means you and all the other balders are statistic minorities.
        Maybe you should reflect on your lifestyle choices homo

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >kills your bails
    >tanks your test
    >start lusting for wieners
    >"h-hey a-at least i h-have hair now" - proceeds to wipe the sperm off his mouth
    this is pretty much 100% of fintrannies

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You watch too much femboy and troony hentai/porn

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >tanks your test

      >first google result
      >By blocking the 5-alpha-reductase enzyme, finasteride prevents the conversion of testosterone to DHT. This leads to increased testosterone levels, as less is being converted to DHT. In clinical studies, men taking finasteride had 9-15% higher testosterone levels compared to placebo after 3-12 months of treatment.
      kek

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        dht is necessary for sexual arousal
        the more testosterone you have, the higher the amount converted to dht.
        by blocking dht you're just increasing your testosterone, but greatly reduces your arousal.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm even more horny now than when I started fin, take your broscience and shove it up your ass

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it's not bro science, dht is directly responsible for sexual arousal via testosterone/dht circle.
            provide citation otherwise and post body.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >dht is necessary for sexual arousal
          it isn't, it's a paracrine hormone, it's active only where it is produced. that's why dutasteride, which completely nukes DHT has a slightly lower incidence of sexual side effects, than finasteride, which lowers DHT just by about half
          https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1551803/
          >the more testosterone you have, the higher the amount converted to dht.
          no necesarily, depends on 5ar activity
          >by blocking dht you're just increasing your testosterone, but greatly reduces your arousal.
          total bullshit

          it's not bro science, dht is directly responsible for sexual arousal via testosterone/dht circle.
          provide citation otherwise and post body.

          kek. provide citations for your nonsense first

          >kek. DHT levels have nothing to do with ED
          DHT is absolutely necessary for prostate function, which directly influences erections and premature ejaculation.
          There is a reason people with ED often times have premature ejaculation. A weak prostate correlates if not can be proven outright if I am given time to research it.

          >DHT is absolutely necessary for prostate function, which directly influences erections and premature ejaculation.
          bullshit.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            dht is absolutely necessary for sexual arousal.
            i asked for a citation stating otherwise and you cannot provide it.
            we already know this as fact so it's up to you to provide a citation otherwise.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you're a gay and I fricked your mom last night.
              we already know this as fact so it's up to you to provide a citation otherwise.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                so you don't have a citation, just state that next time.
                i suggest you go back to the reddit threads and stay in the transexual and/or lgbt circles.
                have a nice day

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                as I said. provide citation for your moronic claim about dht being absolutely necessary for sexual arousal first
                so you don't have a citation saying I didn't frick your mom, just state that next time. she told be that you always liked to dressed in girly clothes when she was swallowing my cum, so it isn't surprising you're trying to recruir people to your troony subreddit

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >so you don't have a citation saying I didn't frick your mom, just state that next time. she told be that you always liked to dressed in girly clothes when she was swallowing my cum

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              wouldn't that mean that women wouldn't be able to get sexual aroused? Also that would make it so 100% of people taking fin or dut would be getting sides which clearly isn't the case lol come on now. Also here is your citation https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK557634/#:~:text=DHT%20plays%20a%20vital%20role,facial%2C%20and%20pubic%20hair%20growth.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he doesn't know about how birth control ruins women's libidos and directly reduces male hormones in their body
                also
                that's not a citation on arousal.

                as I said. provide citation for your moronic claim about dht being absolutely necessary for sexual arousal first
                so you don't have a citation saying I didn't frick your mom, just state that next time. she told be that you always liked to dressed in girly clothes when she was swallowing my cum, so it isn't surprising you're trying to recruir people to your troony subreddit

                provide citation, i asked first. you either provide it or frick off. you are not getting around this.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Does fin work? You should be able to post hair with timestamp then. Otherwise everything you say is 100% meaningless.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i don't use fin dude, it's troony shit.
                i'm 34 with full beard and hairline.
                i've never met anyone who used fin who wasn't effeminate or just ugly already.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you don't take it because you're afraid of the 15% testosterone increase from it, which would interfere with your testosterone blockers

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >provide citation, i asked first. you either provide it or frick off. you are not getting around this.
                kek it isn't kindergarten, you pull random nonsense about dht being absolutely necessary for sexual arousal out of your ass, better have something to back that up.
                while you still haven't provided citation about me not fricking your mom, I'll share some details. she took it ass to mouth

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you didn't post a citation, opinion discarded

                you don't take it because you're afraid of the 15% testosterone increase from it, which would interfere with your testosterone blockers

                people take fin to become more effeminate not less, this is literally its only benefit.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                kek what a moron

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                no citation

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>he doesn't know about how birth control ruins women's libidos and directly reduces male hormones in their body
                Yes but even in absence of that they still have extremely low levels of DHT but they still are clearly capable of sexual arousal idk why you brought up birth control...are you stupid?
                >also
                that's not a citation on arousal.
                Ah, maybe you are just pretending to be stupid.
                >DHT does not play a significant role in the normal physiology of adults. The most notable effects are prostate enlargement and male pattern hair loss as they age.[7]
                Go back to rw twitter nutrition circles anon you are not cut out for this.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah, you're attempting to interact with someone with severe brain damage, if you haven't noticed already, just read his other replies. every single of those who claim to have some secret knowledge about DHT being important, fin being harmful etc. always turn out like that when pushed

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                still mad you don't have any citations i see even hours later

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                kek "pretending" to be moronic won't help you. you folded like a submissive b***h after I called out your bullshit claim and proved your mother is a prostitute using your own logic. If you wanna see what a citation looks like, see my other posts

                >dht is necessary for sexual arousal
                it isn't, it's a paracrine hormone, it's active only where it is produced. that's why dutasteride, which completely nukes DHT has a slightly lower incidence of sexual side effects, than finasteride, which lowers DHT just by about half
                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1551803/
                >the more testosterone you have, the higher the amount converted to dht.
                no necesarily, depends on 5ar activity
                >by blocking dht you're just increasing your testosterone, but greatly reduces your arousal.
                total bullshit
                [...]
                kek. provide citations for your nonsense first
                [...]
                >DHT is absolutely necessary for prostate function, which directly influences erections and premature ejaculation.
                bullshit.

                but you will never produce one, just like every other 60IQ indian who thinks DHT isn't useless after puberty

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                still no citation

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he isn't spitting at me, it's only rain!

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i asked for a citation, post one

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i asked for a citation, post one

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >i asked for a citation, post one
                i asked for a citation, post one

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who cares? Hair on the top of the head is vestigial and decorative at best.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >vestigial
      (source required)
      Your hair protects you against trauma and ultraviolet damage. Baldies can cope all they want but they’ll get skin cancer and I won’t

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        dont even get me started how bald fricks are always angry and unpleasant.
        i have long luscious hair and 9 times out of 10 its always a bald loser thats trying to mess with me.

        hair is love. hair is life. hair means you can smash 20 year olds until you 45. no hair means no pussy.

        My frens, always be wary of old bald fricks. They are perpetually butthurt losers.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >shalom goy take this pill EVERY DAY or you'll die alone !
    No.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That doesn’t look like standard balding
    That looks like either stress, cancer treatment or scalp damage
    They often use extreme examples like that to trick people who have no chance of it growing back

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, finasteride is not a wünderdrug, it prevents further hair loss and maybe a little bit of regrowth, not a full regrow of all your lost hair

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's called diffuse thinning, you moron.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, but keep coping

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Doubling down won't make you right, moronic baldy.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That is diffuse thinning, a lot of people who have it is due to health related issues but the vast majority is just normal baldness

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fin legit saved my hair. Thought I'd need a transplant, but my hair is still holding up well.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ive been taking fin for 1.5 years now and my dick works the same, 100%, you are a coping blackpilling baiting moronic homosexual spouting shitty memes

      it definitely lowered my semen volume but it doesnt matter, if you don have hair no women want you anyways

      This. If there is 1% chance it gives you ed (studies ignore something like 20% decrease in libido, because it' hard to measure and focus only on 100% loss of libido, which ofc will be rare), it's not worth. Just get a hair transplant (lickly, because of dht you have a shit ton of hair on your shoulders and your back) that will last for a decade.

      baldcels are crabs, they want more people to be bald like them and the way they go about it is by lying about side effects so people don't even try to save their hair

      Post hair with timestamp. So far only ONE fin shill is brave enough. If you are going to try to groom other men into taking hormone blockers, at least show proof it works. Protip: you won't. You can't.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Post hair with timestamp
        lmao what what fricking reason? countless people posted their hair in these threads and instead of having a shred of dignity to acknowlege it, you keep asking like a catatonic moron. you'll probably 43% yourself soon because facing the reality that it's too late, you already lost your hair and have to wear a wig like a troony, for completely no reason, because you actually thought that finasteride lowers testosterone, while it actually increases it by 15%, is just too difficult bear. that's why you still come here after you were humiliated after each of your cute little attempts of defending your point, so now you literally accepted you moronic and can only spout random nonsense and avoid confrontation like a submissive little b***h. Prove that finasteride isn't a literal androgen promoter and a testosterone booster, and doesn't preserve additional 10-15%. Protip: you won't. You can't.

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just shave it homosexual

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not really a solution idk why people repeat this shit

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >at 22
    goddamn, that is sad. I got a friend that was already thining at 16, the poor bastard

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >recessive balding genes
    >my father at 50 is still rocking his hair long
    sucks to be you losers lmao

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he doesn't know the father baldness has little effect on the son
      NGMI, do your genetics book series RIGHT NOW

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The father is the single most important factor for baldness and then the maternal grandfather and then uncle. They made several studies about this with 60+ of balding respondents saying they had a bald father vs 30% saying they had a bald granpa

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The father is the single most important factor for baldness

          It's the mom. Sorry, q-ball. Cope or shave.

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wasn't having sex anyway. I welcome the loss of horny feelings and I even get hair back in the process. Win win baby.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Libido isn't an isolated feeling, it is a result of overall life motivation. Lack of libido coincides with suicidal ideation.

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't forget, pig fat (not lard, there is a difference) applied topically once a day is 2x better than minoxidil.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      (the difference being that although rendered pig fat is lard, the lard sold in buckets is typically hydrolyzed and rendered less effective)

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hydrogenated* whatever

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      (the difference being that although rendered pig fat is lard, the lard sold in buckets is typically hydrolyzed and rendered less effective)

      What if I'm a farmer and when I slayed my own pig I cooked the fatty parts until all fat became liquid and separated the fat myself and put it into jars?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's the kind you'd want. Also rendered off of cuts you buy at the store. Lard hydrogenated to become shelf stable won't work.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why is IST so full of broscientists nowadays?

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Womanly thread

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've been on fin for 2 weeks
    This morning I couldn't get it up but a few hours I could
    Not going to lie it spooked me a bit

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A few hours later*

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Have you ever seen Estradiol and Testosterone molecules side by side? DMT and Serotonin?
      Do you have any clue how any of these molecules work? What the role of DHT is?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        DHT makes my BWC huge

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hair loss is caused by scalp tightness. Massage and relax your scalp and you will usually stop balding

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no its not, shut the frick up with this stupid moronic shit

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm balding at 27 shit is killing me. I'm already short God had forsaken me

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I started taking 0.25g, after 4 days my balls were hurting in a weird way
    stop taking it there, im not risking it

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can I take minox at least without killing something

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it ages you faster, wrinkles and shit

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        topical issue, take oral instead

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Oral is even worse for aging your skin dude it inhibits collagen production.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i’ve only ever heard this on IST and it’s never been backed with any sources.

            i;’ve been on oral for 3 years now and i’ve aged approximately, maybe, 3 years at most

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm about to hop on oral minoxidil and I'm excited because I heard it grows hair everywhere. Will I also get a nice, hairy chest? What's your experience?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yes. everywhere you grow hair will grow thicker. i have a lot more facial hair now than when i started.

                one of the best decisions i’ve ever made

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not him, but I added oral min to my routine a month ago and I've noticed a lot more facial hair. Some little hairs have also started growing along my hairline. I'm probably also going full werewolf mode because my beard is starting to grow over my cheek bones and I've noticed a bunch of new hairs around my eyebrows.

                Excellent. Thanks, hairy lads.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                even ass hair? that would not be desirable

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not him, but I added oral min to my routine a month ago and I've noticed a lot more facial hair. Some little hairs have also started growing along my hairline. I'm probably also going full werewolf mode because my beard is starting to grow over my cheek bones and I've noticed a bunch of new hairs around my eyebrows.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      depends if you have cats

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      minox is safe, but so is fin while being much more effective

      it ages you faster, wrinkles and shit

      this is in vitro bullshit, not even confirmed in mice, where it actually induces elastin replenishment, not to mention humans

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's sad seeing my 60 year old Dad having his head still full of hair, meanwhile I'm already NW3/4. Shit not fair.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shouldn't have eaten micro plastics and seed oils then

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What are you experiences with minox here? I shaved my hair 1-2 months ago and as they grow back I can see that my scalp is clearly more visible on the front/top of my head than on the sides. I'm hopping on Minoxidil to stop it from worsening until I can get a dermatologist's opinion on the matter (and possibly getting fin at the end)

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've regrown a lot of hair with min, only my hairline is lagging on one temple, otherwise it's bueno. It's very slow for me, though, not a hyper responder.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How much time did it take for you to begin to see some changes? I'm reading lot of contradicting things on this. Some people say 2 months, other 6, sometimes even a year.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          For me it was around the 6 - 8 month mark. Before min my scalp was showing on the top and crown areas, after those 6 - 8 months those places were almost back to normal, and now (after 1.5 year) the hair there is much thicker.
          My progress is very slow, but I also don't have any side effects, so I'm more than happy with what I got.
          The guys you see on reddit and other places that get crazy results in 2 - 4 months are hyper responders and they're not the norm. There's also guys that get results after more than a year.
          Just take it slow and steady, go in with the expectation that you'll have to use it for a year or two to see solid results.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's interesting. I'm hoping to be a high responder, especially since I'm starting it at a somewhat early stage (v-peak - visibly thinner hairs on top when cut short but no bald spot/no visible crown yet).
            I have to use a foam propylen-free formula though, does it make a difference?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >does it make a difference?
              Not in terms of absorption, just make sure that the min you use is applied directly on your scalp, and not suspended in your hair.
              I use an ethanol-based spray and it works pretty well.

              >v-peak - visibly thinner hairs on top
              Don't forget to use fin along with min, otherwise all the gains you'll get will go out the window. There's also stronger protocols, like dut + min or even using oral min, but for now you should just focus on fin + min.
              Good luck man.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I will look into fin as well but it's only available under dermatologists' prescriptions and where I live it takes several months before being able to see one. So I will be on minox alone for a little while. Thanks anon.

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      literally me

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >started fin too late and have a shitty uneven NW2.5/3 that I'm preserving now

    Getting on dut soon hoping to maximize any small potential regrowth, but I've already decided to have a transplant sometime in the future once I've maxed out the small dut gains. Hoping it doesn't nuke my hairline as some guys seem to have happen.

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm going to get one of those hair system wigs if I end up bald

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So just never get married, or somehow hide the secret from your wife? Based.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        She'll have to deal with it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          She will, with a divorce.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh well

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not worth losing your ability to have sex or get hard. If you're ugly just hire an escort. You worry too much about what other men thing.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he's doing it for other men
      Sounds kinda gay anon.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      see

      >A study by Marberger et al, attempted to determine this relationship and determined sexual function was more apparent with testosterone levels below 224ng/dL.55 Furthermore, men with lower baseline testosterone scores experienced more adverse sexual effects than males with normal range testosterone levels suggesting that baseline testosterone levels may be useful when considering treatment with 5ARI in patients with possible low testosterone.
      it's just you. sorry you had to find out this way

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >get on fin
    >still morning wood and raging boners whenever needed
    >hairloss stopped

    Works on my machine. It sucks 1% of dudes get side effects but oh well.

  43. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    should i start using it when i still have a full head of hair?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If any men in your family are bald, yes.

  44. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Give it to me straight, should I hop on fin immediately?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no, thats just a cowlick

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nah man, I'm 31 and I used to have THICK as frick hair all around, and about 6 months ago I started shedding like crazy, like a frick ton of hair falling out, granted I was really ill and hospitalized, but now the shedding somewhat stopped, only a few hairs a day instead of handful but I'm seeing 0 regrowth, thinking about Fin to stop further progression but I'm 99% sure I never had that shit before.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          than go for it, i started fin at 33

  45. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how do you get like that at 22 holy shit

  46. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    uk bros where to buy it from? boots make you see someone to get perscribed and i feel like they would deny me because my hairlines fine but i want to take giga precaution

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just get an online prescription.

  47. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ill never take finasteride because i dont want the DHT receptors all over my body to be fricked. but i might try some minoxidil or that RU-XXXX research chemical stuff.

    i mean i honestly dont care, im ugly crooked nose fricked up bone structure from injuries, teeth are fricking destroyed and i cant afford to fix them. balding is the least of my worries

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Think about it this way, eventually you can save up money to fix your nose and teeth, but there won't really be a way to regrow your hair, so maybe try Fin before it's too late.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I'll take some random fricking research chemical instead of the long proven method with dozens of studies that show no relevant side effects
      the sheer stupidity of people here is beyond comprehension

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ive had my hormone levels tested and every time i have ED its because my DHT levels are nuked for whatever reason. ive had 3x the reference range of E2 and never had any issues.

        thats why i dont want to take something that just completely nukes your DHT. why would you try to hammer a nail with a hand grenade? it only makes logical sense to start with a topical formulation.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          here's what happens, you aromatize like hell, your body yoinks the T to turn it into E2, which as a result makes your DHT low, instead fix your E2 levels and lower your DHT with Fin/Dut once it bounces back
          I swear some of you idiots are so stupid

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            thats great and all but it doesnt address the reasoning behind using topical finasteride, minoxidil or RU.

            is there a specific reason for not using it other than, because you want other people to take oral finasteride? sounds pretty stupid to me

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          kek. DHT levels have nothing to do with ED, it's a paracrine hormone, only active where it is produced, like prostate
          >i dont want to take something that just completely nukes your DHT
          lmao fin doesn't completely nuke your DHT, it lowers it by about half. dutasteride completely nukes DHT and it doesn't even have a higher incidence of side effects than fin

          >I'll take some random fricking research chemical instead of the long proven method with dozens of studies that show no relevant side effects
          the sheer stupidity of people here is beyond comprehension

          >the sheer stupidity of people here is beyond comprehension

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >kek. DHT levels have nothing to do with ED
            DHT is absolutely necessary for prostate function, which directly influences erections and premature ejaculation.
            There is a reason people with ED often times have premature ejaculation. A weak prostate correlates if not can be proven outright if I am given time to research it.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >DHT is absolutely necessary for prostate function, which directly influences erections and premature ejaculation.
              source?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Prostate requires DHT to repair itself and maintain necessary size for reproductive function.
                The prostate is necessary to create semen.
                https://www.macmillan.org.uk/cancer-information-and-support/prostate-cancer/the-prostate#:~:text=The%20prostate%20produces%20a%20fluid,and%20sperm%20into%20the%20urethra.
                Two parts here.
                1. Without the prostate at its normal functioning size and ability, you could not separate sperm from urine as this is one of the prostates normal functions. Meaning all reproduction in the moment is full stop.
                2. Without the semen to protect the sperm, longer term reproduction is stopped (women can become pregnant up to 7 days after the ejaculation because of these protective measures).

                Semen is anti-microbial and keeps the sperm hydrated as it enters the vegana. It also has chemicals that signal the vegana to get ready to become pregnant.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Prostate requires DHT to repair itself and maintain necessary size for reproductive function.
                source?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i posted one.
                if the prostate is not a certain size, it cannot produce enough semen.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >i posted one.
                you didn't. I asked about the source of:
                >Prostate requires DHT to repair itself and maintain necessary size for reproductive function.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Already posted, you ignoring it doesn't change that.
                All that estradiol fricking with your head kid.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you haven't, you googled a random article about prostate you didn't even understand, hoping that something sticks, and it doesn't even mention DHT nor does it in any way prove that "the prostate requires it to repair itself and maintain necessary size for reproductive function" and repeating unrelated platitudes, like "if the prostate is not a certain size e, it cannot produce enough semen" like a moron doesn't change that until you can prove that DHT specifically is necessary. that's why posting sources is important, becuse stupid people with learning disabilities can't draw correct conclusions from simple texts, which then can be quickly verified.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                prostate creates prostatic fluid which is only like 1/5 of what constitutes semen, nearly all the volume of the fluid comes from the cowper's glands.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                seminal fluid is critical for sperm survival and impregnation in a naturally occurring sex act.
                Go ahead and provide a citation stating that removing the prostate increases impregnation chance.
                Protip, it doesn't.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                seminal fluid is created in the cowpers glands dumbass

                I feel like I'm talking to a chatbot.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Baitpost

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you implying semen is not produced in the prostrate?
                The literal mixture of sperm+fluid happens in the prostate to create semen, without a functioning prostate. You cannot create the appropriate mixture of the two nor transport the mixture further.

                seminal fluid is critical for sperm survival and impregnation in a naturally occurring sex act.
                Go ahead and provide a citation stating that removing the prostate increases impregnation chance.
                Protip, it doesn't.

                most of of the semen load comes from a single gland and it's not the prostate

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >bro this thing that lowers the chance of impregnation isn't part of sexual function
                So you are going on record that the prostate serves no function, that is what you are saying.
                Cool glad I'm talking to a moron and I can ignore your post.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                prostate is a fricking meme, it's only there to choke out the urethra when it gets inflamed and also to provide unmatched erotic thrills because it's literally the male analogue to the g spot

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >DHT receptors
      My dude, that's not a thing.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >DHT receptors all over my body to be fricked
      DHT receptors basically just in your hair follicles and prostate, you mean? and inhibiting an enzyme doesn't cause receptors to get fricked, jesus christ, is IST entirely third world with no access to education now?

  48. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >you HAVE to take a israelite pill
    >if you're bald no women will lo-ACK
    just ask yourself, what is more manly, taking a troony pill (+ having a homosexual routine of microneedling + applying shitty products every morning and night) every week if not every day for the rest of your life or just not caring and deal with it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm trans btw if that matters

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this. imagine caring what others think of you. started shaving off my hair at 24 and never looked back.
      never pay the barberisraelite again

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this. imagine caring what others think of you. started shaving off my hair at 24 and never looked back.
      never pay the barberisraelite again

      true that's why we baldchads keep haunting threads for hours at a time and try to convince people that it's not really that bad being bald and you can frick a fatty once a while

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        checked

        kek literally stopped by on IST to have a look after a few years and spotted the classic bald cope bread

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        at least they don't feel the need to spam threads every day on a fitness board

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          true again because we baldchads just wait for the thread and attach ourselves to it, we just keep winning baby

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >wearing a wig is more manly than taking a small pill every few days that's worth taking regardless of hair for the test boost alone, not to mention all the health benefits

  49. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just searched the whole thread for finchads posting their beautiful hairdos. Not one is posted. What's up with that?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most dudes get on fin after noticing recession, at which point much of the battle is lost. Not worth showing off.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine how big of an own it would be if all these dudes posted their perfect thick hair with nw0 hairlines. Very perplexing that they refuse to.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        most people gushing over fin just discovered it in the last year and it takes anywhere from 6-12 months to start having any appreciable effect in most people, so of course there aren't any pics, it also makes your DHT cooked thinning follicles shed repeatedly during the first year as they slowly thicken so some people end up looking worse than when they started until a year later.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/UAzIN9L.jpg

      Imagine how big of an own it would be if all these dudes posted their perfect thick hair with nw0 hairlines. Very perplexing that they refuse to.

      they do in evey thread, you just pretending they don't. no one gonna bother with requests of some troony anymore, especially since only a mongoloid could come up with something so self owning and proving the importance of getting on fin as soon as possible, before losing any ground

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        One guy has posted hair ever. One. And it wasn't you. When will you stop having a b***hfit and post that stringy combover you got? You'll probably rope yourself first when you realize you neutered yourself for no reason.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          lol no one gonna bother fulfilling reqests a malding troony when it still pretends not being btfo with its own logic by other pics posted. while fin is worth taking for the 15% test boost alone, only hysterical trannies operate on in pics and anecdotes, men use facts and numbers

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            because you can't post a picture. that would own me. but you can't do it. because your hair is trash despite castrating yourself. you're an angry moron with no androgens.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you were already owned by a picture, as you just admitted, as it's an anonymous board, not reddit, and are afraid to take fin, because transgender people with low test are the ones at adverse effect risk, while I enjoy a 15% testosterone boost and are malding and considering suicide over losing hair for nothing, that's why you are still here replying, having absolutely nothing other than empty ad hominems, becuse you were completely humiliated when you still actually thought you had enough brain capacity to make an argument

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                cool cope troony. i'm not reading it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I-I'm not r-reading and I'm not c-crying I swear
                your wig is getting unglued

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              anon I already posted my hair for you in another thread why do all these other anons have to go through the hassle of catering to your requests when you could just move the goal posts again and continue to come up with more and more tests to judge us by. You probably still wouldn't be convinced if someone posted a video of them taking a 1mg fin pill. benching 315 for 5 then making love with the special lady in their life. It seems like the issue resides in your heart anon...not in our hair.

  50. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You should want to get bald so you have to get over it and make mental gains.

  51. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >it's a schizo myth
    >nocebo!
    >it actually raises your test
    >it's only because you have low test

  52. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no point growing your hair if you're not going to ever get laid anyways

  53. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You guys don’t know about saw palmetto oil or the shampoo? Blocks DHT on the scalp and no side effects. Just stick with it for a few months and you’ll have the same results fin. Trust me.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >palmetto
      might as well just use peppermint oil

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if it blocks DHT it will end up with the same side effects

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Zero side effects. I was on fin for a month and I was so weak I couldn’t get out of bed. And my nips started burning it was bizarre.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I was on fin for a month and I was so weak I couldn’t get out of bed

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Saw palmetto is meaningless. Shill your useless shit elsewhere.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Based science denier.
        Saw palmetto shows “27% improvement in total haircount, increased hair density in 83.3% of patients”

  54. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >needs hair to get pussy
    gay

  55. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just shave it bro

  56. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Started taking fin and min back in September. Definitely noticable improvement. The crown of my head was starting to thin but only I could notice when I touched it. Temples same deal. Both are back to probably 80% after only 6 months. After a year I'm sure I'll be full head again. My hairline is basically back to what it was in my early 20s.

  57. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    homie, no matter what ppl tell me. I refuse to believe that people in their early 20s going gollumstyle is normal. Especially when it's that many.
    Just watch some old videos from the 50s or 60s - they have balding temples and that's it - but not whatver the frick left part of OPs pic is

  58. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >losing ground on dutasteride
    >not responding to topical minoxidil
    lmfao it's so over for me

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      RIP

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >losing ground on dutasteride
      maybe it's a shed?

  59. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Usually when you get hair loss really early even Fin can only do so much. Your follicles just REALLY don't like DHT.
    22 is pretty young.

  60. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Here’s my story, I started Fin at 16 for hair loss. I took Dut once and the brain fog was so bad I could only compare it to the time I had a parasite. Eventually the brain fog got bad on Fin and I started having ED so I quit it after 5 years.

  61. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ray Peat said using finasteride is one of the most moronic things one could ever do, and his word is LAW

  62. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How much do you guys pay for fin?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      50PLN for 28 1mg pills

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're overpaying, polandbro.
        I'm paying 11PLN for 30 pills of dutasteride.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I know, I wanted dut or 5mg fin, but the doctor said that he can't prescribe a prostate medication for someone "only 35" kek. I finally managed to get a propecia prescription and asked for the cheapest substitute at the pharmacy.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      people pay to become trannies?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      About $10/mo from keeps if I amortize my past and future costs, but only because I keep threatening to move my prescription to a local pharmacy that they keep giving me $25 for 90 tablets, tax and shipping included.

  63. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so should I take the pill if i have a little bit of gyno from puberty? 29 btw. my hair is diffuse tinning rapidly and I think this is the last year it looks presentable before i start looking like a copegay. but im scared i will get sides because i already had pubertal gyno

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      By all means if you've accepted you're ready to transition fin will make your breast larger.

  64. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People taking fin expecting regrowth will be sorely disappointed because it is dogshit slow.
    I've been drinking topical min for 1 month (4 drops = 0.1ml = 5.66mg) and I'm already seeing my diffuse area fill back in, this shit is magic.
    Each bottle lasts a year and a half when taken orally, and I'm sure my 5 other bottles will expire long before I can finish them.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you're slowly being poisoned my drilla

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it supposedly expires much faster when opened. I was taking a 5mg tablet once a day for 3 months, but lately I've been drinking 2-3 drops (2.5mg) in the morning and applying 1ml 5% topically in the evening

  65. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I’m 31 and my hair looks like the right pic and I don’t do anything to it but use a sulfate free shampoo every 3 days or so

  66. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why just not shave your head, your hair doesn't define you.

  67. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >semen is made in the prostate
    Quality rebuttals, you sure showed me.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you implying semen is not produced in the prostrate?
      The literal mixture of sperm+fluid happens in the prostate to create semen, without a functioning prostate. You cannot create the appropriate mixture of the two nor transport the mixture further.

  68. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  69. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm 29 and a dyel with a toxic personality and forced to care for my elderly parent. It's unlikely I'm gonna ever get to start a family anyways what do I care ?I have no issues getting it up.

  70. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tried finasteride. After the first month my dick started to work less every day. Eventually I just couldn't get hard.

    Quit a few days later. Took two weeks for improvement.

    The hair growth was noticeable even in just a month though. It's sad.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      how much were you taking? You could try micro-dosing if you responded so well to it

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