Where my 30yr+ fitizens at? How's your lifting gains going? And more importantly how are your life gains going? 35yrs here I'm single and struggling.
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30+ fitness
Where my 30yr+ fitizens at? How's your lifting gains going? And more importantly how are your life gains going? 35yrs here I'm single and struggling.
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>35 and struggling
No no no menbros! I thought we aged like wine and were still high-value???
>Menbros
have a nice day troony
Every fit 30+ thread is the same
>top career making 150-500k
>own business, rental properties, etc.
>top physique 2/3/4/5
>not married but only date and frick the hottest 18-22 year old girls (always 18-22 no other age range)
>dozens of very intelligent hobbies they excel at
Yadda yadda yadda blah blah blah
literally me minus the business and physique part
>35yrs here I'm single and struggling.
this is about the only thing notable in my life. i don't know why i still browse this board, weight started with a 3 for the first time the other day, sad, depressed, lonely, only live to work so i can pay bills otherwise cba about anything tbh. i wish were true but i'm a fat sad lonely manlet underwater on a mortgage for a shitty house barely cracking 100k who hasn't had sex in nearly a decade. life is hell.
Pull urself together or ill come over and slap you fat piglord!
>i don't know why i still browse this board, weight started with a 3 for the first time the other day
You do realize that just BROWSING the fitness board won't make you fit, right? Go lift a weight, you fricking pig. Holy shit...
You forgot my ten inch penis
Do you not know that lurkers exist? Probably like a third to a fifth the number of people who go on IST actually post. Maybe even less.
only insane people post prove me wrong
I lurked on this site years before I decided to participate. Idk why, I just like being active more
i've been posting since like 2004 my brain is entirely jelly at this point.
>30
>no car
>dead end job
>living with ex gf
>like $1k in bank account
>skinnyfat and balding
should I an hero?
sorry *15k not that its much better
>living with ex gf
Damn.
>having an ex
Damn already doing better than me bro
Why the frick do you hang around your ex
I will never understand this
I woudl rather live inawoods than go through this
you are insane
>living with ex
yall frick? know you have to at least still cuddle sometimes
Ignoring the larps, 32years old, I make ~120k/year in software engineering and own a small-ass house
Not top physique, became a fat-frick post college but last year built my home gym and started working out. Almost not-fat but still weak and fat
I'm not married but have a fiance
>hobbies
as you get older you realize "frick work being your identity" and start using your money for all the shit you want to do. I have a motorcycle (I picked up motorcycle riding in my late 20s), brew beer, garden, all this other shit I can't recall. I don't excel at any of them really, it's all for fun and getting better over time.
For the record I made like 30k/year until my mid to late 20s. Never thought I'd be in such a good position in a million years.
100%. I never had trouble dating, ever. I also never used apps to find dates, and 0 of the women I dated/hooked up with used dating apps. All met through friend-of-friends situations. If my current relationship ever dissolved, I wouldn't use dating apps, I would just continue to meet people in person until I clicked with someone.
Literally me except I live in an apartment, work at a gas station, haven’t had sex in 4 years and my hobby is shitposting
Literally me, except for:
>average career
>no business or properties
>average physique
>not married or having gf or fricking any firls
>no hobbies I excel at
You forgot everyone is 6’5”
go work on your tik-tok dances lil'zoom, and then try lifting
>31
>God put me in the right place at the right time and somehow got me in a upstart company got a 15k sign on bonus just because I asked, work from home, and after on the job training should jump my salary massively once I get the title
>no businesses, using most of my money to renovate my families home (I moved back home since I work from home now and just investing back into the family home and land)
>1/2/3/4
>I am a homebody and don't really show money outside of a few things but where I live no one knows what I have since it's not plastered in designer labels
>never get female attention
>only thing i really do is compete in Halo Infinite as I've been a pro in Halo since the first game
It's fun, but since I don't flaunt my money I barely get any female attention.
ima be 35 this year
>top career making 150-500k
nah, i make like 45k/yr doing nothing
>own business, rental properties, etc.
own rentals
>top physique 2/3/4/5
better than people my age but still pathetic. broken back/broken shoulder and inability to eat/sleep consistently
>not married but only date and frick the hottest 18-22 year old girls (always 18-22 no other age range)
situationship with a 22yr old
>dozens of very intelligent hobbies they excel at
nah
so larping high school kids?
And?
yup thats me
I thought every 30yo+ was fricking multiple virgin 18yos
37, 5’11
Lifting over 2/3/4/5
Recently laid off from ME job and market is saturated with engineers so just doing freelance consulting work for now
Marrying hot wife on the 4th of May and then taking a 52 day honeymoon tour of SEA since I don’t have to request off.
Life basically started at 31
32, 6’5”
I’m in the height of my career making 150-500k and own business, rental properties, etc.
Competing in Men’s physique with lifts at 2/3/4/5
Fortunately not married. I only date and frick the hottest 18-22 year old girls
Let’s not forget the dozens of very intelligent hobbies I excel at
Is making up stories on a chinese basket weaving website one of those hobbies?
Shut your old ass up gramps. Go start a family
Get help Jim.
I’ll never understand why you incels value starting a family as some milestone of masculinity or success. Literally the most unsuccessful, shitty people all have kids, the homeless guy has kids, the blue collar alcoholic has kids, like shitting out kids is one of the most unfortunately accessible things people do , but to you guys, it’s like going to the moon.
Back in 2009 the most unattainable goal on IST was just getting inside a vegana.
But post-2016 everybody has to be heckin trad and conservative-pilled so fricking sloots transformed into having a family.
you were holding that in for some time huh. old ahh loser LMAO
SOME of the most unsuccessful, shitty peope have children, and if they hadn't, they would be even more unsuccessful and shitty.
On the other hand, ALL successful and great people you look up to have children.
This. Betas gonna beta, lmao
Holy shit get a load of this dweeb still using Alpha Beta terms kek
ok beta
A gay competition competition? Hey zoomer, it aint bussin.
i believe your constant identification as an incel is leading to greater issues in your self actualization if you continue to use your celibacy as a defining characteristic of your identity this feeling of inadequacy and self-doubt may lead to greater mental unrest
>it’s like going to the moon.
this but earth is flat and we never went to the moon. but yeah starting a family is beta af.
It's a fantasy they're holding on to like women with the prince on the white horse.
It's a fantasy now, in the West, yes. Because all women here are so goddamned horrible and worthless. It's eminently achievable in other parts of the world. It WILL be achievable again in the West after we kill all the israelites and genocide 30 year old single childless women.
I am not joking in the least.
Grown ass man discussing incel ideology
It is a milestone of masculinity and success. If you cannot find a woman who wants to marry you or have your children, then you are failing at your purpose. Our brains are hardwired to find loving relationships and raising children to be incredibly satisfying. Why do you think crazy cat ladies exist? They have a burgeoning maternal instinct that they have no outlet for, so they use cats as an inferior substitute.
Yeah, because the average homosexual on this site grew older. We don't have the same desires we did when we were 18. Childish desires give way to nobler desires to find a woman that loves you, to raise some children, to do things other than hunting after short term pleasures.
it's kindof like how "getting a job" or buying a house" are such generic accomplishments that they vary vastly in quality.
same thing with finding a wife and having children. pretty basic accomplishment to get a fat Mexican girl who treats you well enough and can cook and clean. nice, well done. good enough, I guess.
finding a tall, stunning viking princess who's not been mind-morphed by mass media? that is the kind of accomplishment that will have me happy with my progress for a few years.
decide what you want from this life anon, and what you want to give, and then dedicate everything to it. who cares what other people think? seriously. my accomplishments would mean the exact same to me if I never saw another soul for the rest of my life.
Are you familiar with the female delusion calculator? The woman you described is the equivalent of a 6'4, 500k a year, unmarried, ripped man in his 20's. Statistically, she might as well not exist, and you'll likely go your entire life without ever interacting with one in person.
I honestly think that is a delusion we adopt due to living in the cities. there are a lot more beautiful, tall, traditional white girls than there are 6'4 ripped 20-something $500k a year earning men.
I've been using the double enter to separate paragraphs since I started coming to this website over a decade ago, before ever hearing about reddit.com.
>reddit spacing
opinion discarded
Based af. These reddit betas need to be exterminated
/LULZ/ subhumans needs to frick off back to their own board.
Beta af.
31, lifts are ok, trying to get back to 3 pl8 bench but I’m struggling. Working more on cardio and it’s going well, switched shoes to Hoka Arashi 6 and they’ve made a huge difference. Trying to drop 20lbs between now and summer, haven’t stepped on the scale yet so we’ll see what my baseline is tomorrow.
I’m in my first year of a career switch (teacher) and it’s gone well. Students and coworkers like me, signed my letter of intent to return which means I’m half way there to getting tenured. Moved back in with my parents after LTR cheated, let her keep the savings so I’m starting back from zero, but this new job makes me happier and pays a lot better so I’ll make back what I lost (plus $14k to never see the b***h again is a fair price). Going to let myself start dating again. Wanted to put it off for another year but I think I’m ready and can manage balancing work, dating and spending without compromising my savings goal for the year.
on another note, I’ve been trying Onnit products and their New Mood has done wonders for my sleep. Waking up feeling rested even on shit sleep (5.5 hours, though that’s been rare).
>let her keep the savings so I’m starting back from zero, but this new job makes me happier and pays a lot better so I’ll make back what I lost (plus $14k to never see the b***h again is a fair price).
Wait wtf happened? I'm guessing you had a joint account with her and weren't married?
yeah, I switched to a credit union when I was an employee for a local government that had great rates for loans and savings. Since we were living together, she also qualified to join and opened up a checking account of her own. We were high school sweethearts and had been on and off for 8 years but everything was going well (we had been apart for 4 years when we got back together). We were on year 3.5 together and decided to open a savings account together to save towards a house. I kept forgetting to go after work so she opened it under her account and we started putting in money every paycheck.
A local coffee owner is friends with her brother and told me she is expecting (she got pregnant 6 months after breaking up with me). She apparently got super emotional one day and told her current boyfriend/baby daddy that she regrets having a kid with him (they had been together during those years we were apart) and that it should have been me. That regret more than makes up for that lost money.
3 plates is only 145lbs. That's nothing.
>34 yo
> 21 million USD income
> Multiple 'raris in the garage
> 2.5/3.5/4.5/5.5
> Only date 18-20 yo, exclusively. Not married
> I eat sardines and eggs for dinner
Nice, man! Doing better in life than that homosexual who posted above you
>online dating
there's the problem
33 lifting heavier and making best gains of my life. financially healthy with investments but live with parents and have to work like a dog. i can't complain.
>35
>no wife, no kids
>own my own business but by no means rich
>full head of hair, abs and 1/2/3/4 for reps
>still don't get matches
It's going to be OK bro. Hold your chin high and keep lifting. We lift until our bones are brittle and we can't move. You've got another 50 years on the plannet, try to enjoy nature and good things will come.
>abs
How long this takes? I'm 25 and got back into the gym this month after getting cucked by tax season (again). Weigh 180 and 5'10
Been training since 22 but mostly it's when you're below 12% bodyfat and have a strong core. If I cut sub 8% I get the full 8 pack look, but by that time your wiener stops working because you're amaciated. Easier to obtain if you're a roid troony (which I'm not).
32 year old boomer here. I am 5'11" 160 lbs with abs but I've also been thin my entire life (type 1 beetus).
Don't listen to the gays here, cardio is important but don't overdo it. Start every workout jogging a mile or so on the treadmill to get your blood pumping and to loosen your muscles. Alternate days between heavy/low reps and light/high reps.
Long slow joggs are garbage for cardio vascular health. Much better off doing shorter high intensity stuff
Why would anyone want to define themselves as a boomer. Youre a millennial, boomers are in their 80s now.
It's a meme from like five years ago.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/30-year-old-boomer
I'll buy it, link notwithstanding. But I have experienced this in meatspace and it drives me bonkers. One, youngest boomer actuals are pushing 60 and Two, who the frick would willingly associate themselves with boomers at any age?
you are not a fricking boomer. don't indulge moronic children.
32
Back in the gym after 3 years. Lifts are surprisingly close to peak. Currently focus on diet (1500kcal/day) and cardio to get the fricking stomach to go away. Supplementing with full body workouts 2-3 times/week.
Jumping on tren and test in a couple of months after a certain groundwork has been laid.
Motivation is that I want to frick my wife's sister
So going to make it again
>Jumping on tren and test
cringe
>Motivation is that I want to frick my wife's sister
based
>35
>hairline receded but could be worse, beard starting to grey
>30-35 just focused on making money
>joined gym again after long break
>ate like shit, out of shape, no cardio, lost gains
>first session benched a pl8 and did some cardio, felt dizzy and almost fainted afterwards
>doms lasting half a week, feeling more tired with taxed cns
>motivated to regain gains again but frick me age and no training for so long took its toll, joints hurt, shit recovery
>gonna have to reduce deadlifting, do more stretching, focus more on cardio
>35 is weird, midlife crisis kicking in but mentally still feel like a moronic teenager at times
>33
>6'3, 230lbs
>don't lift, so no progress
>started riding bicycle to get to my work, also trying to fix my diet
>working dead end shift job at a werehouse
>no family of mine, been so many years since i had sex i'd be more terrified than excited at that prospect. More or less came to accept fact that I'll die alone.
>recovering drug addict, at least stayed clear of alcohol for over 6months now
>failed to drop cigs for like 10'th time over last 3 years. next weekend marks date of next attempt. Can't fricking afford it anymore.
Things are getting better, suprisingly. Baby steps, got whole rest of my life to sort my shit out.
being sober is good progress, keep going, just takes a little bit at a time
>36
>Don't lift anymore
>job is ok
>no woman. havent had a gf in 10+ yrs. no big deal in a way, I don't make an effort
>semi shitty glide path atm
It's going... ok. I've been kickboxing and want to shed weight so I figured I would just stop making continuous half assed attempts to lift but the training sessions aren't doing the job themselves. I lost 10 # pretty quick but haven't progressed further so now I have to re tool my calorie intake and add more cardio and lifting. I just don't have the motivation to get out of bed and run before the sun comes up. I didn't even when I was 22 in the Army Frick running. In any case, I'm not struggling just kinda drifting right now. May do a master's degree with my VA bux and focusing on my teenager graduating HS soon and prepping him for the real world or college, whichever comes first.
Guy in OP pic would look 100% better with longer hair and contacts. That haircut makes him look like a frickin pin head soiboy
He needs to lose weight so his facial structure can show. drop the glasses, grow his hair out a bit and take a better pic. I can bet his body is like a saggy pear too. Just very unattractive
32, on Greyskull LP since July. All lifts for reps and of course all weights without the bar, get fricked broccoliheads. Chinups are for sets of ten instead of five.
Really struggling with OHP. Essentially hasn't improved in once year. Tried a fourth set to failure to no avail, so I guess it's off to the shoulder machine for me. Any advice?
>life
Got a promotion and will start new position on 3rd of April. The office is nice, pay is also better. But unfortunately I live in a hustle&bustle pod with wife and kid, so it's still a fairly humble life with me as the sole breadwinner. I am now at the end of middle management, next promotion would be upper management. That means I have to work twice as hard to get that paycheck.
>43
>decently comfortable net worth
>own a couple o.k. businesses
>split time between 2 countries and 2 states in USD
>Apartments in each - probably wont own again for life. Frick that noise.
>Ukranian Waifu and best fren of almost 15 years
>amazing daughter I rebuild old cars with
It's pretty great life honestly. I am just now (Dec 2022) working on getting back into shape since we want to be the older hot couple at pool parties. Down about 63 lbs. 20 more to go.
Full head of hair, no grays, good skin. I shit all over my genetics in my mid 30s. Wish I didn't use my work and travel as an excuse to eat like shit but grateful for the goal I have now to work toward.
I still drink the Vodka tho. Love it. Picking back up on my art and music playing.
Picrel is the 5 mile run I do almost every other day. Waifu in stripes.
Sup fellow greyskuller. Once I am out of "Overweight" I am going to hit a greyskull program.
my OHP stalled at 160x5 after my beginner and intermediate programs, and the only way I've managed to increase it has been
>putting it first in my workout
>doing it every single workout
>autistically clean bulking and optimizing sleep hygiene
>all for reps
>of course without bar
why are you bragging about tracking shit in a moronic pointless way?
This pic is evidence against Tinder, especially in America, not being 30+.
As a 33 year old bald manlet, let me tell you that all these "it's over" qualities only matter if you expect to get somewhere with 0 charm.
Trying to meet a woman's list of requirements is for chumps who can't make her forget her list of requirements.
just had to
nice art gains anon
this type of OC is so much better than just the usual joysack garbo
wow actual OC on IST
You ironically you need to shit up your art style by like 30%, else it won't catch on. Also consider removing the ear.
how do you even make wojaks art like that? is there some photoshop filter or website that does this for you? or do you just trace basic outlines in mspaint?
36
5' 11"
198, trying to get down to 185 but frick alcohol man
Lifting 3x week for general health
about $135k/yr
Married, 1x kid
Playing with your son in the grass in springtime really is the best
>35
>6'3
>Ottermode but weakling by IST standards (ie I don't lift 1234)
>Own business, bartend part time to socialmaxx
>Dream girl unironically, she's 28, Latina, fat ass, religious and only tried sex once before me
>Feel happy and content
Absolute statements always tend toward memes but I see 'it gets better at 30' a lot, and it certainly applies to me. I haven't made it - you can always be leaner and earn more - but I'm well on the way.
Still feel like a moronic teenager though. WAGMI
>31 y/o
Gaining strength, losing hair
2.5x bodyweight deadlift somewhere in April
There is a whole ethos in that "Tried shooting pretty low" comment
Hes probably getting torn apart for that comment
He just looks like a pussy homosexual. Smiling with teeth, nerd glasses, and a cat in his profile. I imagine he has some blm or feminist bullshit in his profile. Never post a photo of yoy smiling with teeth unless if it's a genuine photo of you cracking up laughing with friends.
I'm single again and turn 35 in a few weeks. I'll see how this goes but I didn't have issues a few years ago when I was 33 matching with girls.
I don't understand /b/ros
literally every time someone asks for feedback on their profile it's always
>smile more
>post a pic of you smiling first
>put the picture of you with an animal first so they can see you're friendly
yeah but OP looks like he's about to tell you how he liked the latest star wars
>29
>6'6
>lost of fricktonne of hair density (diffuse thinning) this year, still norwood 1.5, hopped on Fin
>used to be chad, office job and alcoholism have corroded my soul and essence
>disgusted by women after having a manprostitute phase, blackpill/halo effect is very real
>started getting IST again to join army reserves to fill the void
>got rejected due to past alcoholism
Things never get better, do they?
no. you just learn to cope.
>Things never get better, do they?
I think, they do. I had my head filled with bullshit in my 20s, in your 30 you get more realistic and focussed.
Dude looks too nice, like he has nothing interesting to say, very 'what you see is what you get'. AI would create someone more interesting.
I garauntee that "shoot low" comment comes out in convo very cringy
>hurt back yesterday doing deadlifts
Frick sake. I think my core is too weak and I can't seem to keep my hamstrings tight when bending over to get the bar. Gonna do superman's and back extensions today along with some low impact cardio. Been randomly bending over today to get.in deadlift position for practice.
34
Novice lifter
63k
9/10 wife about to pop w baby number 2
Paycheck to paycheck
Built my own home
I'm 41, don't earn much, no fancy car, house needs a lot of work, but I have a great physique, decent face, 6 foot, really good musician, I generally get a few likes without needing to pay for premium and dates aren't a problem. I don't really understand what is wrong with these guys unless they give off cuck-energy or think they can use money as a surrogate for having a personality or being cool.
Whats the point of hookup apps? Prostitutes are easier to deal with and the chances of getting stds are the same.
>29
>finally got job in engineering after jobjobhopping irrelevant shit-pay gigs
>been going to weekly therapy for 4 months and feeling better, lots of self-understanding and healing wounds
>got my meds and ADHD diagnosis a year ago, have been way more productive instead of aimlessly searching for something to kill the hurt like in my 20-27
>balding but 26yogf doesn't mind, buzzpill looks nice for now, will get implants later cuz frick messing with hormones through fin/min/etc.
>doing best to work through 6-year relationship problems but at peace with the idea of breaking up if we need to, been working on my codependent tendencies and self-esteem
>still lifting, now more consistently, switched full body like in college for brosplit, feeling and looking way better despite being weaker, hopefully restarting muay thai soon
It's taken me a lot of time but slowly getting my shit together feels nice, better late than never
I’m 30. I have accomplished literally nothing in my life in any aspect. I could tell my situation and no one would believe someone could let themselves get this pathetic.
The lack of life development made me more depressed with each passing year. The severe depression made me not see the point in trying to improve because I would be a failure anyway, and the lack of improvement would make me further depressed. A never ending cycle.
At this point I am merely waiting until I get the courage the commit suicide. You can say that if you want to have a nice day just do something crazy, do the complete opposite of what you’ve done. But I don’t have the motivation to even do that.
The thought of having even a somewhat normal life is completely incomprehensible to me.
I've lost ten pounds in the last few months despite lifting and trying to eat right, mainly from working about 60 hours a week. It's not good weight loss either since I was already underweight.
At least I get my bachelor's degree this year.
>34
>being obese for the last 10 years (5'10, 110kg), used to be slightly above average before that
>decide to go for the home gym route because I'm an introvert (a real one, not a product of the web 2.0)
>finally decide to pull the trigger on my first piece of equipment (barbell), card gets declined
>bank tells me I'm getting the money back in 30-45 days because of some weird transaction gimmick
which simpler home gym essential I should get to start training asap in the meantime? ring + bands?
Wall pushups are good if you’re fat and can’t do normal push-ups
Besides that, just google exercises you can do without equipment, but the bare minimum I’d get is some dumbbells
>ring+bands
Works fine.
But I would make a sandbag you can load to like 150lb and just start doing bear complexes instead.
Or just get both all of it is pretty cheap.
It's the cat and the dumb smile. He's not objectively bad looking, he just looks goofy in that pic. I'm 35 and got like 30 matches on Tinder in two or three weeks when I decided to give dating a go recently, all from women under 28, went on a couple dates, and then deleted it because they were all prostitutes with dead 1000 wieners stares. Now I'm concentrating on lifting, earning money, and am talking to some 18 to 22 yo Pinay cuties to line up a couple easy lays when I go visit my business partner in Manila later this year. Pic related, its fricking ridiculous. Every White guy should set up a profile on a SEA monkey dating site, so he can feel what it's like to be a White college girl.
If you want to be desired, go where you are a rare commodity. It really is as simple as that. As to other life gains? Lift, make money, take care of your health, don't drink, smoke or do drugs. It's not rocket science.
Every single one of them is disgusting and look like they smell
This
Sure, ok
you realise ever y o ne g ets messages from thirdw o rld women?
That WAS my original point, yes. Every Western man will get a shitton dms from third world women. That's literally the point I was making about relative dating pools, supply and demand.
30 here
a hot coworker who has haven't seen me in 2 months saw my bulk face today and she said im fat. i was 9% in 2021 and no im like 18% with a bad fat distribution
im cutting boys
Report her to HR for harassment, dumbass.
nah i opened the discussion because the other coworker (the male one) was asking my how my bulk is going. im aware that i gained 'fat' but im not really fat per se. ill post a pic to see what i mean . they always knew me lean and with no beard now im kinda bear mode
>Don't cut for this b***h.
she wouldn't comment on it if i didn't ask her for her opinion. tbh i played my cards wrong and could just skipped the convo
pic rel
OK so,
>you are bulking
>you ask ppl opinions about your body
>they give an uninformed opinion because they do not know what a bulk is
>you drop spaghet and decide to give up on your goal/plan and go cut
I mean you are a 30yo adult that is flippantly going back on whatever your initial plan/goal was because 1 woman said you got chunky. You do you but that's kinda lame.
Your greentext is correct. In fact I gained a lot of muscle but my season is starting and I will be meeting a lot of people between may and July and I was thinking of starting the cut now. The big dogs in my gym tell me to skip my cut this summer and continue gaining because I’m making mad gains and it’s a shame to waste it on cutting. Thoughts?
Idk, I would say do whatever will make you feel happy and proud of youself, independently of what 1 coworker, or some dudes at the gym think. The bod you posted above looks great already, how much bigger are you trying to get? When it comes to gymbros: it's easy to give advice to someone else, who then needs to stick to it for another year+. You should prioritise what works best for you.
>how much bigger are you trying to get?
that's true. would you reccomend cutting?
How did you survive into your 30s while being such a weak b***h mentally? How did you manage to stick to lifting? You need Jesus in your life, ong. How the frick is this possible. Get your shit together posthaste, dammit, this is causing me second-hand embarrassment
>hile being such a weak b***h mentally?
by being fat in my teens and getting bullied + breaking up with a bpd gf that ruined me. im now recovering.
>this is causing me second-hand embarrassment
You can't imagine how it felt today, well here i am posting.
ngl today was a wake up call. i even went on a business trip earlier this year and i was timid af, fatties have more confidence than me.
I have jesus in my life and have some orthodox friends who literally saved me from kms but its a hard long road with a lot of downfalls.
>how did you stick to lifting
by being angry all those years.
Thanks and godspeed anon..
>by being angry all those years
Well, that's a start
>fatties have more confidence than me
WRONG, they have more idiotic hubris and sociopathic tendencies caused by the fat constricting and demyelinating their braincells than you. Confidence grows from competence. Become competent in as many fields that you can without diluting your interests too much, add physical mastery over your body to it, and you WILL become confident. Guaranteed, there is no other possibility. You already have a good body, so there's that.
Just don't stop lifting, and work on becoming COMPETENT, and confidence will come. You'll be fine.
>Ong
Kys you blaspheme homosexual ape
I fricking love these dogs
fat frick, you coworker was right homosexual, stop lifting
What for? For an butthole of a person who tells their coworker they are fat after 2 months of not seeing them? Normal people don't do that. Don't cut for this b***h.
I really like my new gym. It's in a sports centre, so I can use the pool and sauna if I want. The gym has 4 rooms, 2 of which have a bunch of machines and 2 are for freeweights. Most of the patrons hang out in the big weightlifting room that has a squat rack, a smith machine, and a bench press. But there is a smaller, kinda hidden room that has a squat rack only. Most days I go in there, stretch, and have the room to myself to do my SS. It's just so nice that not that many people lift weights. Majority of ppl just sticks to machines or barbells/kettlebells. idk man, I really like my gym.
I'm 30 make $17hr, lost a bunch of weight but still fat, ugly, no ambitions, no passions, completely lost in life. Always feeling like I'm fricking up at life no matter how hard I try. Gains are very slow even though I'm trying my best to progressive overload and going to the gym 4-6 days a week. Eating under maintenance calories and plateauing hard. Haven't had sex in 2 years, and before that it was 8 years. I'm a completely unwanted loser. Life is 100% luck. Some people like me were meant to be stepped on by others and abused. I might be an NPC
Forgot to say living with my grandparents too. And have 12k in the bank. I want to kmy every day from wake till sleep.
Kms*
Bro... Genuenly, seek mental health help. Stick to lifting, too. Lifting is great for mento health. I'd hug you if i could.
I tried therapy and meds for 13 years. Nothing helped. Been lifting for 6 months and have lost 90lbs since April of 2023. Nothing helps. I'm just going through the motions waiting to die at this point. No faith or hope. Don't mean to be a Debby downer in this thread just posting my experience as a 30yr.
You need a different therapist. Most are idiots
I tried 5 different therapist during that time not including the 3 group therapies I tried and dbt therapy I tried too. I've become convinced that it's all just snake oil meant to extract money from the mentally ill. Some people are just too fricked beyond saving.
Yes, some people don't want to change. There are reasons for this. That's an breakthrough you can sometimes feel after years of successful therapy.
>Yes, some people don't want to change
Who said I don't want to change?. 13 years and thousands of dollars isn't wanting to change? Pursuing new jobs moving to new places trying new things isnt wanting to change? Losing 90lbs and going to the gym 4-6 days a week isn't wanting to change? Weird.
He means that sometimes people "become" their mental illness and they subcontiously prevent themselves from getting better because being unhappy is all they know how to be. You should google "learned helplessness". Its very hard to recognize this behaviour in ourselves, but its worth questioning whether we are sabotaging ourselves unknowingly.
I understand and I know what you're saying but that isn't me.
Unconsciously you want to remain where you are because that's what you know and didn't really have guidance when you were young.
You can change jobs, travel around the world, do gym, it doesn't matter. All those push yourself behaviorist bullshit don't work, as many here will have probably noticed.
Yeah, gotta confront what you actually fear/dislike about yourself and change internally. Otherwise you just drag yourself wherever you go.
right there dude, lost weight, still look like shit, will always look like shit nomatter what I do because of crappy body/loose skin, now I got acne I have to deal. put in so much effort into things over the years and worked so hard and nothing has paid off. I'm almost 29 and have never kissed a chick, a chick started showing me signs a month ago, guess she got the ick because she's been avoiding me, picked some chad over me, just tired of it all, work so hard and still have to keep working harder, I'm old man holyfrick when do I get to win, put so much effort into life and it just fricking doesn't matter because I'm a social autist, because I'm not good looking enough, because I don't have status, because I've yet to succeed. It makes me sick to think that stacie I liked picked someone over me & she will never be alone, never know what it feels like to go 29 years without anyone to hold, kiss, spend time with. I keep struggling, I am a warrior, I am slowly dying every night, she's a thot with too many options and she will live happily forever because she's beautiful, makes me sick.
Like I said life is luck you either win or you don't no matter how much effort you put in. The thing that gets me is that it seems like everyone here makes over 100k a year and I'm only making 17hr. I'm not a dumb guy. Every job I go to they see how skilled and hard working I am and they just use and abuse me. If I had a passion or something I actually loved doing I could see a path for me to escape the wagie life but nothing interests me.
Tried dating apps last year for like 8 or 9 months and eventually threw in the towel. I seriously couldnt keep dealing with the low as frick value women trying to pass themselves off as high value. And i'm not saying I was high value at all but a lot of them thought they were
>First date knows i'm right leaning because I said I was on my profile
>Hints at it before the date but doesnt wanna talk about it over text for some reason
>meet up and she doesnt look 28 at all and approaching the wall fast and probably has 4 years or 5 at max before her face looks 40
>Decides its a smart idea to talk about it date 1 (that i'm fricking paying for)
>stick to my guns and shes going full libtard mad
>know this shit is dead in the water already so ask her whats her body count >gets offended and says its none of my business (which means its high)
>says this wont work out after the date (no shit) And of course
>all the women looking WAY FATTER in person then the pictures they've posted >having way to much emotional baggage from a past relationship
>being way to clingy
>being stuck up c**ts while offering nothing of value.
I asked my sister why this was and she was spot on saying "Dating apps are the clearance rack of women. You arent going to get anything valuable there." Deleted all of them after realizing that and having 1 more awful date were I could have fricked but she just wasnt anything like her photos. Funny enough I know a friend who ended up marrying his tinder match after 4 or so years but she had a lot of the problems I listed above (clingy, fat, mental disorder, refuses to cook or clean while he works all day and she sits at home playing video games. Probably only fricks him but the man has low self esteem as it is and is out of shape himself so I suppose he thinks its a good trade when it isnt.) The dating market is so fricking bad right now. Once you "make it" you wont want any one from them because it'll be like winning the lottery.
you sound like an intolerable butthole
>refuse to frick a fat b***h or a crazy b***h
>sO IntoLErAbLe
Ok roasty.
That dude in the pic is obviously fat. That's why he didn't post his body. All fatties just post faces.
What makes him a no-match s o y ?
so 30 anons, is the whole "metabolism slows don at 30 + you wont have time to lift if you have kids and ill inevitable get fat" true or is this just meme?
I think it slows down a little, but more so for women than men. Idk, don't have kids.
It's OK anon, I understand. I was diagnosed with depression as soon as I hit 18, though I think I started feeling it when I was 13. I am 33 now. Tried to rope and so on. Today, life is good and there are more neutral or good days than bad ones. You should keep finding the solution to your mental health issues. For some it is CBT, for some it's meds, for some it's magnetic zaps to the brain, etc... You only have one life, so keep looking for a way to improve it and feel better. You deserve that.
Yeah I'm a 30 yr old dude with BPD, PTSD, clinical depression/anxiety. There isn't much that can be done for me besides an actual miracle. I appreciate the positive posts in this thread but I'm a lost cause. I'm too cowardly to end my own life. Otherwise I'd be dust in the wind.
If you're 30+ and still have such a limited social circle that you need an app to meet people that's pretty pathetic.
i hope you are trolling or are young (in which case your opinion doesn’t matter). mid late 20s is when people start to drop off, move away, get married and have kids etc. it leads to a sort of friendship valley for many since its a transitional time period
Just hit 31. Stats are 5’10 183. Work IT and make just under 6 figs. Not bad considering I totally changed careers about 3 years ago. No real aspirations aside from making a remote position where I’m not working with end users because honestly life is fairly comfy right now and I don’t want more responsibility. Live for my hobbies of which there are too many to name. Dropped off of weightlifting a while back in favor of cycling, climbing, running, various outdoor activities because my job at the time didn’t allow for regimented nutrition and training schedules so it just became wheel spinning and I lost the plot. Just got back into the “gym” this winter starting with calisthenics due to hating cardio in shit weather in the dark and I am remembering what I enjoyed about weights in the first place. Weak comparably but being able to bang out sets of weighted dips is nice. Way over training anything that could potentially lead to a long term injury so no deads and i keep my squats moderate rep and mixed with front squats for load management and core gains. Determined to get actually lean this summer and it’s going pretty well as I currently have visible but undefined abs. Turns out drinking really is the biggest gains goblin.
As far as life goes, I have some close friends but looking to find more that share my interests and I find it hard since so many of them are somewhat solitary or removed from people. Society really does feel pretty isolating when you aren't plugged in to the social media hamster wheel. Also broke up with my gf this month so I need to get back out there but I just look around and the potential options and I just feel so uninspired. Anyone else feel like this? I live in a major metro in the US and its like that saying “water water everywhere, but not a drop to drink”. Maybe I’m just not hanging out where attractive, or hell even, interesting women are. If anyone else is in the same boat tell me what you did to fix it
34 x-chromosome here, also single and kinda forever struggling
>years as broken down need lurking /LULZ/
>psychological disorders
>start therapy
>get job
>highs and lows
>start going to college for first time
>start lifting
>things getting better
Getting started this late means no kids, probably never get married, might still die alone... but I'm trying. I accept now that I probably won't off myself and I can't just disregard the world around me. I'm growing up. Late af to the game, but I'm a more considerate person now. All I have to do now is quit lurking this site.
Good luck OP and all my fellow oldgays.
>35yrs here I'm single and struggling.
its unironically over for you OP.
chubby bulking anon come back, i miss u.
>35yrs here I'm single and struggling.
Frankly you're probably fricked unless you're exceptional.
>single women 25+ are a write-off, obese, single moms, 99% of quality women are snagged up during university
>99% of single women 18-22 aren't looking to date 35 year old dudes because most are unattractive and for the few of us holding it into our thirties there's still enormous social stigma against that kind of age gap and girls are socially controlled automatons, a select few might be open to a down low frick but those will be unstable girls with daddy issues who won't make for relationships
The "men age like wine" meme isn't socially accurate. The reality is even if you're an attractive 35 year old man, quality women are all 18-24 MAXIMUM and women tend to partner with and be attracted to men their own age to four years older at absolute most. Plus if you're an older man you are not in the same social circles as prime age girls anymore to even begin building attraction despite the gap anyhow. It also doesn't help that college age girls have completely infantilized themselves now and think of themselves still as children.
However, all that said, your best bet is the gym. If you're a legit attractive older man, you might get lucky and some young qt might be looking at you and maybe you can approach and not get kicked out for "creeping" on younger girls.
There are many nice 40+ women too. I think OP's main problem is that he feels he has to live his fantasy
>There are many nice 40+ women too.
Okay. But if you're looking for a wife and mother for kids then you don't want a "nice" 40 year old woman. You want an early 20somethings woman who will grow into a nice 40 year old woman who has had your kids and is a great other to them and wife to you after you've grown together over time.
>You want an early 20somethings woman who will grow into a nice 40 year old woman who has had your kids and is a great other to them and wife to you after you've grown together over time
That's part of the fantasy too.
If you think having a healthy male life with a wife and kids is a "fantasy" you're just a moron doomer blackpiller not worth (You)ing.
Or you could have some form of standards for yourself and not just frick literally any human female who gives you a shred of attention like most guys do and wind up in the shit for it.
I swear to God IST's collective self-esteem is in the absolute gutter. You people need to pick yourselves up out of this defeatist mentality and value yourselves.
>If you think having a healthy male life with a wife and kids is a "fantasy" you're just a moron doomer blackpiller not worth (You)ing.
>women become useless after 26 unless they gave birth to your children
NPC drones.
>wanting your own biological kids and a woman who will stay with you to raise them right is now an unrealistic fantasy
I feel sorry for you if you're a man. But I suspect you're some post-wall 3x year old roastie. Every Western man alive today can achieve those things if he's not grotesquely obese and poor as dirt, whether you like it or not. He just has to be smart about it.
Wrong. They might be playing in the wrong division, however. But no, you are completely wrong. It's absolutely valid to complain about the quality of available Western women, simply because so few of them are eligible. Most of them are total prostitutes in their 20s, and completely used up and spat out by 30. There aren't NEARLY enough quality White women left for even a fraction of the eligible, good men out there. And, regardless of your insane delusions, most White men are incredibly desirable to most women in the world. Yes, that includes the older guys, even the guys who are relatively poor and unfit by Western standards.
you sound like a doomer that never goes outside. The world is not as bleak as you think it is. There are many decent women out there and they are probably avoiding you because of your cringe midnset. A healthy, good woman wouldn't want to waste time with someone who sees the world in this way.
stop defending yourself, dried up hag. You literally write like a woman and we see you for who you are.
It's a fantasy. Many men with their life set at their 20s will end up divorced after 20 years.
If you think they achieved nirvana because they found a job a girl and had kids i suggest you talk to some of them.
people who complain about the "quality" of potential mates are unrealistic with their expectations and trying to shoot out of their league.
>people who want a quality partner have unrealistic expectations
Damn, I guess I should just go on tinder and swipe right on literally everyone and marry the first 600lb trainwreck match I get eh.
tinder is a hookup app tho
So?
hookups are basically one night stands, not real dating
No, tinder is a cesspool. What I am saying is, are you sure YOU are the quality partner that deserves a quality gf/bf? Because like attracts like, boys. For example, you probably attract woman who struggle with reading comprehension.
>No, tinder is a cesspool
Yes, and? You said that having standards is unrealistic expectations, so why not jump in the cesspool? Nothing wrong with that according to you.
Right but why would that matter if I'm just dredging up the lowest gal I can find because wanting an equal partner is unrealistic?
Yes I guess my criteria:
a) not a crazy cat lady
b) not hooked on antidepressants/drugs
c) doesnt drink like a sailor
d) isnt cripplingly obese with beetus
e) isnt emotionally abusive
f) would make a good mother
are TOTALLY unreasonable and I should just settle haha lmao hahahaha
Anon here's a little redpill for you:
>1/3rd of women under 30 are on some form of SSRI's or have some form of diagnosed mental illness, which doesn't speak for the amount undiagnosed
>most women under 25 and many over 25 drink every weekend
>the majority of north American women are obese or overweight
>most women wouldn't make good mothers
You are indeed looking for a minority of women.
Id rather die alone then settle for literal human garbage. Simple as that.
I use tinder and dating apps
I somehow always get the most beautiful women on the app
Then one time I saw my competition
And I saw why I get the most beautiful women
>bald
>manlet
>fat
>obviously using material goods as a cope that no women actually want them only their stuff
Nothing is more pathetic then a man who has to peawiener to try to get women
Post some of your matches friend. Literally every time I see a ISTizen bragging about their tinder prowess and post their matches it's a fricking shitshow.
correct
cope, this is pretty normal, and has been for 1,000 of years Ranjeet
Bollocks, women become useless after 26 unless they gave birth to your children
>women tend to partner with and be attracted to men their own age to four years older at absolute most
Women in the West, right now, maybe. Idk tho, I've never had a problem getting with 20somethings in my 30s. My last long term gf was 20 when I met her, I was 31, we lasted a couple years until she pulled the pin on the combo fat/crazy grenade and I bailed.
The dynamic is likely to change within the next decade or two however, for more reasons than I could quickly explain here. And if you're willing to go outside your race, the whole world opens up for you like an oyster. Go forth and colonize fertile, eager wombs, White man. This is how you secure your genetic legacy.
>My last long term gf was 20 when I met her, I was 31
How'd you meet? Meetvietnameseprostitutes.com?
>Women in the West
thats a problem sir
it's gotta be a woman of your own race if you want to have a functional family
anyone can get a southeast chinkoid woman and make Elliot Rodger-type psycho kids
>dating morons 10 years junior to him because he is too moronic to date an adult on equal grounds
Get a load of this moron kek
Roastoid detected.
That guy looks like a zoomed versions of me
And somehow had the same reaction to me during sex with my 31 year old single mother ex
You are a woman, 100%. You have no idea what men find attractive, or what they require from a woman. You project your own needs on men, and just assume we have the same needs. Only a woman does that.
Let me spell it out for you. Men and women are NEVER equal. Men don't need an equal partner. Women resent men who are equal to them. Women are always moronic when compared to a man, regardless of age or status, because they're women. All a man needs from a woman is 1-that she bear him children, so she needs to be young when he meets her, 2- that she is kind, so she's a good mother and wife, and 3- that she is loyal. That's it. There's nothing more we need. There's nothing more that you can offer us that is of any value to us. Nothing more, and nothing less.
Lemme guess, you refer to your cats as "furbabies", and think having kids is a huge burden and sacrifice, yes?
>inb4 rrreee incel
cope seethe and dialate I get more pussy thrown at me at 35 from 20 something roasties than I know what to do with. I deleted Tinder recently tho, it was pulling me from my purpose.
>He thinks he's a man because he fricks girls
Do you have a Bugatti perchance?
It's a big part of being a man, though not in any way exhaustive. You can be a good man without fricking girls, you can be a bad man even if you frick a lot of girls, but if done right, fricking girls can make you a better man. You wouldn't understand the complexities involved, since women haven't got the mental capacity to fit more than one or two variables into their thought processes.
Of course you are. Probably over 30 too, eh? Ok, maybe closing in on 30. And what decent women? Women like you? You are not a decent woman. You are an old, used up prostitute with delusions of worth.
Does it matter what you believe? You're still an old, useless, dried up hag.
God women are DUMB. I swear, you're all moronic.
This is fun, say something more so I can ridicule you.
>philipines
there it is
Philippines, Thailand, Brazil, Mexico, any third world shithole has far, far more quality women than the West. You of course don't understand why, and you are incapable of understanding. You are so incredibly stupid that you can NEVER understand how those women are better than you, from the perspective of a man, because you are incapable of understanding the perspective of a man.
Suffice to say- I can date in the West easily. I get plenty of attention, and action when I want it, its fun. But I would NEVER marry a Western woman. If I ever do marry, it'll be in some third world country with reasonable divorce laws, which is to say none. Because women are either chattel, or a nightmare. There are no in-betweens.
By 2030 there will be an absolute epidemic of single, childless Western women committing suicide, and I bet you'll be among the statistics.
Womanly shaming tactics don't work anymore, sweaty.
>nobody likes you
What is this, first grade playground? This sort of shit only works on women.
From my experience those women are on average far, FAR better educated than Western roasties, and many of them have decent careers before pairing off with some Westerner. Depends on the location of course, but in Manila or Cebu, a higher education degree is mandatory to get a job, any job. And their unis aren't half bad, really. So idk about the desperate part. They want White guys because we're just a lot higher quality than local guys, on average. It's about the culture as much as the physical aspects too. Apparently the locals treat their women like shit, leave them to be single moms, beat them up, etc. We have a reputation as reliable and trustworthy, ask any Pinay married to an expat. You can do that, they all speak good English.
You see, this is why the Bible says that women should remain silent and listen to a man with all attentiveness. You could learn an awful lot from me if you just shut your wiener holster and listened.
>Brazil
I'm khhv 25yo virgin Brazilian. It's over for me isn't it? If I can't even get sex in the country that's considered one of the easiest.
My only hope is getting as shredded as I can because nobody here lifts, it would put me so far ahead having a 6pack to the point where I'd be able to skip social interaction.
jajajajajaja
>has to go find a smaller pond
>too socially inept to understand halo effect from language/cultural barrier and exchange rates
>again, “quality women” unironically
im a man, you dunce. clearly people in your own country found you too repugnant so you had to frick off to some shithole to bang girls hoping to find a nice guy that can provide for them. wont they be disappointed
That guy is so deluded he can't even consider that other men see his cope.
>smaller pond
>is literally a much, much bigger pond, with a shitload more fish, and a lower percentage of whales
>talks about halo effect and cultural exchange rates as if those things are somehow bad, instead of a simple advantage that any smart Western man can utilize if he wants to
And dating in the west is easy for a guy like me, as I've demonstrated. I just wouldn't marry any of them, because they're worthless for that purpose. Can you really not understand that simple concept? Is it really so hard to grasp?
And yes, quality women. As a woman, you are incapable of understanding the meaning of the term. You think that worthless things that no real man cares about make a quality woman. You are incorrect. I am using small words and simple sentences on purpose here, since as a woman you are functionally moronic and shouldn't have the right to vote.
>too socially inept
lmao ok
>I'm a man
cap, you write like a woman, you think like a woman, therefore you are a woman. Well, or a homosexual, possibly.
seethe and dialate
>25
Just lift and make money. That's literally all you have to do for now. Lift, make money. You'll be fine.
copemaxxing chudcels literally have a script that they are incapable of deviating from
You mean lift and make money? But that's literally all a young guy has to do in his 20s to set himself up for a good life later on? Why would you deviate from a script that works?
>Can you really not understand that simple concept? Is it really so hard to grasp?
I grasp pic related
Oh
My
God
You are the dumbest triple Black person femoid moron I have ever spoken to. You are so dumb, so incredibly stupid, you make the average IQ of any room you walk drop into double digits. You are so stupid, you can't walk and talk at the same time without turning blue.
>h-he doesn't want to marry an old, used up, damaged roastie with a 1000 wiener stare and dried up ovaries
>t-that means he actually can't!
>It REALLY means he really, really wants those used up old prostitutes!
>I know its true because of a fairytale my stepdad Jerome once told me before finger banging me when mom went to bed!
>there is no other way to think about reality or human behaviour, it all has to be encompassed in morality tales for 4 year olds and Harry Potter movies!
>ablooablaa ablooo
Women are DUMB. I swear to God, women are SO. FRICKING. DUMB. It breaks my brain to even try to comprehend it. Just, holy shit its incredible just how STUPID you are. Frick.
You can't marry a young good looking educated virgin white girl from a good family (your dream) and resort to poor SEA girls. You scrape the bottom of the barrel but want us to think it's totally your first choice. You seethe because others won't feed your delusion.
>You can't marry a young good looking educated virgin white girl from a good family (your dream)
young, good looking, virgin, yes. That is my preference, though frankly, I don't much care about the race, since I'm not a racist bigot, and education is meaningless. Culture is more important, but those girls are all Catholic, as am I. And seeing as they actually EXIST, unlike the girls in your scenario, well. It really is a no-contest.
>You scrape the bottom of the barrel
Wrong and racist, the bottom of the barrel are 30-40 something White women. The SEA girls are young, fertile, attractive, and trained from a young age to submit to their man. They also have the huge advantage of actually existing in the real world, and being quite plentiful.
>but want us to think it's totally your first choice
Womanish projection. You really should stop trying to sound smart, it just doesn't work. Again, the way you think about those things just SCREAMS "female logic". I'm having fun here, so let me explain.
See, a woman cannot imagine that anyone would want anything but the top 5% of the available partners, but that's not even close to the whole story. Add to that the fact that you are incapable of comprehending that your preferences do not translate to what men find desirable, and we end up with this: You are utterly convinced that it matters to men that women have an education, that they're boss b***hes, that they're sarcastic and manly, because that's what you want from men, and you think that any man who DOESN'T want to marry an absolute fricking harpy of a masculine c**t must be coping and sour graping. Naturally you think that women like you are the most desirable to men, because White women possess the most masculine properties out of any group of women. The reality is exactly the opposite, but being a woman, you are too stupid to comprehend that.
Is there anything more I can help you with today, little one? Daddy is in a charitable mood
You will never be a man.
>smaller pond
more like a pond that hasn't had had tons of sewage dumped into it by elite israelites, poisoning man-woman dynamics for the residents of the pond
>Probably over 30 too, eh? Ok, maybe closing in on 30
Yare literally in a 30+ fitness thread LMAO. Unhinged, moronic, and wondering why nobody likes you. Why don't YOU keep posting, so we can keep laughing at you. Picrel, it's you.
>tells me i am a woman
>tells me how women actually think
Fricking kek my sides.
Yes, I am a woman. Every time you post you just illustrate my point exactly. You come off unhinged and insecure. No wonder decent women don't want anything to do with you. Sucks to suck.
>Yes, I am a woman.
There it is.
Notice how everyone could easily tell.
Yes, and? Whay was that even a question? Why are you fixated on that so much? Jesus christ you are weird.
Fricking knew it. You dont know shit what men actually want and should just keep quiet as all women should be.
Anon, she is a woman, therefore she doesn't care what men want, because she is incapable of empathy other than towards her children. It's not her fault, its the way women as a species evolved.
But you are correct, women should remain silent and learn with all attentiveness.
you know the drill
>35
>uses “roastie” unironically
>zomg too many matches on tinder my foreskin was literally sloughing off from all the sex”
im sorry i just dont believe you
>26
the number gets lower every time i see it. by next year it will be 18. theres a healthy medium between no standards and calling women worthless by an arbitrary number metric i assure you
Lamo ok seething roastie. I might invest in some catfood stock soon, tbh. Maybe some pet accessory manufacturers? Hmm
Another reason to avoid marriage in the West, true. That's why I use the roasties around here for fun. Most of the guys I know who got themselves a SEA monkey are happy in the long term, don't get divorce raped, and have an actual wife that knows how to treat a man.
>Uses matchmaking apps
>Dates desperate SEA girls
>Has the gall to point fingers
You can start an online masculinity cult
I am sorry anon, but even if a 40+ roastie is 10 times as good as the average 40+ roastie, a sexual value of 0 times 10 is still a sexual value of 10.
Frick man like i get it if youre a chubby chaser i guess but she got a dog face too. She must have a banger personality and cook like a pro too. The roiding for this meme has never been truer than for this man
>mfw
thats probably a man prostitute the fat pig paid just to pose
That's right bros, keep coping.
hookers that look like supermodels will pose for you for $50
btw a fat person cannot be a 2/10
being fat means you don't even qualify for the 10 scale
How am I coping sirs?
Honestly it’s probably never been a better time for us handsome old guys. Zoomer girls seem to love the whole 'daddy' thing.
>Zoomer girls seem to love the whole 'daddy' thing.
Anon, if you actually looked into that you'd see that what they're calling "daddy" is guys 2-3 years older than them my dude.
kek, somebody tell him, this amount of coping isn't healthy
This here. I volunteer coach at a club for a sport I'm good at, and I've already had a couple of 19 college girls come on strong.
So far I've kept them at bay as I don't want to put my position in trouble, but the zoomettes have a daddy thing.
>married, x1 kid
>5’10”, 213lb
>walking 3 mi/day
>lifting 3 times a week
>meal prepping
>80k/yr
>sssssiiiiiip
Really really trying to get to 200, then 180. I don’t like sweets but carbs are delicious I’m having a time fellows
It's my 30th birthday on Saturday
Tell me it's going to be OK
sometimes I think I'm glad i started browsing on IST when I was 19. hearing all these stories of 35+ men struggling inspired me to never be a frick up like that.
Relapsed on alcohol, and then I'm started getting gainz back about 40 days so er, then nearly died from septic shock source unknown. I'm gonna have to start from almost ground zero again, rough year. I'll get it back, I'm only 32.
I'll be 32 in the summer. Things are good - I have a good group of friends and family and I don't hate my job. I was dating women for years, but last year I was single and it was one of the best years of my life. I am dating someone now but it's pretty laid back and casual. I don't think I want to get married or have kids.
>34
>engaged to based russian israelite who wants many children
>make 300k
>healthy friend group
my fitness is fricked though boys. 300k jobs take up your life.
>32
> was in a dead end job working retail til 29
>got back into uni finish my b.a this year and working as a broker for fixend income market now
> dating is nice lots of fun
> enjoy bodybuilding but am not obsessed anymore only 3 times a week
> once a week I go boxing class with friends
> weekends we go out or go eating or I’m having a date
>women don’t want to frick an old greying white soft cuck looking guy with a cat
Color me surprised
32. About 2 weeks into the Mentzer program and my deadlift has gone up like 30 lbs. All my other lifts are gaining like crazy. Train hard, train brief, and rest. It's literally that easy
Just turned 30 last month. Only make 100k a year but paid off all my debt except for 10k in 3% student loans. I lift 2/3/4/5 for a couple reps (6' 205 lb on "TRT"). Wanna get engaged to my 21 year old gf but I don't think I make enough money to consider starting a family. If I married her, I wouldn't want her to work another day in her life
fitness is actually the easiest thing in my life. 2 pl8 OHP isn't shit compared to real life struggles
Lmao, the cat is throwing some serious shade; one pussy warning a bunch of pussies about another pussy.
Still in great shape at 35, I'm no longer at peak strength but more due to training for athleticism vice pure strength than any age related weakening. 1/2/3/4 will be my absolute floor and if I ever get too close to that I might run a few powershitter cycles. The only thing that sucks is injury recovery. My wrist is in a splint and will be for another week or two, just started hurting one day because, surprise, it's tendinitis. Even that is ok, as I needed to catch up on cardio. I will never stop working out and my longer term goal at this point is to be the strongest centarian to have ever lived.
>tfw 34 and skinny fat
>tfw matched on tinder with a 19yo
>tfw went on a date with her last week
>tfw second date tomorrow
not sure what to expect bros, the age gap is wild
Nice anon, is she hot?
tbh not that much, I'd say she is 6.5/10
but she's a qt
Shes not 19
Women are pathological liars. Get this through your skull
>30
>6'6" 230lbs IST literally best shape of my life, lifts at highest they ever been
>only got more handsome in my 20's
>only hard sign of aging is hairline at a NW2, holding on fin/trying for some regrowth on min
>girls call me a "dilf"
>work as a high school teacher and some of the boys call me "the Chad teacher"
I'm doing alright, all things considered. If I left the house more I'd probably even eventually find a good gf, but my social circle of friends are all married/in relationships and not going out people anymore, so I kind of need to find some way to make some younger friends to hit the downtown pubs and bars with to meet someone decent hopefully. I was hoping that I'd meet another qt teacher, but high school level seems to be all older women working as teachers and all the qt young teachers go into elementary school level.
Whats your plan for meeting new people? Been trying meetup groups for my interests but its been marginal. Will probably keep trying since not sure how else to do it. Last one I was at it was literally all out of shape older dudes. I just left. Don’t really need that energy in my life
make friends at work. go do some hobbies. get a pilots license and meet pilots, kayaking clubs, bars, dude the world is your oyster
>pilots license and meet pilots, kayaking clubs, bars, dude the world is your oyster
wow dude all that sounds so exciting omg!
tbh if you're a CHAD you can just register to dancing lessons (couple dancing) like salsa or some shit
I've went there a few years ago with a female friend
>80% girls
>most dudes are gays
>random girl went up to me after the class to chat up with me
hell, if you're fit, why not take some gym class where you have 80% girl, like yoga shit ?
Idk if Im quite chad but I aint ugly and Im fit. Honestly would but I am comically bad at dancing and it’s a bit embarrassing. Hell maybe I should just do it so I can not be bad at it anymore. Any style you recommend?
I was harcore shit at dancing but basically if you take it up at the first lesson (or whaterver) I guess that most dudes also have 0 skills
For the salsa class I went too, it was a bit cringe but :
>I was dancing 50% of the time with my female friend so it's ok
>some girls don't mind that you suck if they aren't uptight (which is the ones you want to avoid anyway)
tbh I had a feeling that most girls that went to these kind of classes were single too. As long as you are just bad but don't act autistic about it it's fine
As an add on, I dont think I can do gym classes. They just seem so silly to me and I think I would put off an unapproachable vibe. But again, maybe I need to shake things up a bit. Good recs
Anon, in the NICEST possible way because I'm sure these ladies are all lovely women, this is an example of the typical crowd that goes to the dance/fitness classes in my city.
I'm sorry anon
I live in Paris so I guess that helps
I can't believe in the US it would even be that bad if you joined some fancy yoga class though
Canada actually. On the other hand, there is ONE attractive female I see on IG who posts Stories from some class, so there's maybe some that hot girls go to. Problem is, I have my own home gym set up that perfectly serves my needs, and paying for a $1000 gym membership just to hit on girls feels kinda moronic. Especially since these classes are all women and frankly I think most dudes don't realize how much of a b***h you'll look like doing the sort of women's class resistance band exercises they do at those things.
>if only you knew how bad things really are
No but for real there some cuties but it is rough out here
Dark Green shirt girl would totally get it.
Have started going to downtown music nights more. There's a good one but it's only once a month, might hit some others though. Last one I went to I had some girls all over me, then halfway through the night we were going together to a table at the back to "talk" and she stopped halfway, then said nah dawg and went back with her friends. Found out next day she had a boyfriend lel.
I'm pretty confident in talking to girls and flirting and pulling in person because girls always seem to react positively to me talking to them, I just need to find a way to be around girls I find attractive in good social settings now. Going alone is possible and I've done it a couple times, but not optimal. I did meet this week a couple of fairly based 24yo gay wingmen which I think are going to be stellar. Gay friends are fricking top tier, they completely put girls at ease approaching their group and then you come over and join. It's like actually fricking hacking the system. Might hit the club with them next weekend and see what happens, they also have some fairly pretty friends too.
Am optimistic.
How does one acquire gay friends without them thinking you’re hitting on them? Gay dudes are always eyeing me but like Im not trying to do that awkwardness
Literally just set my tinder setting to Everyone the other day which got two results:
1. I got 300+ Likes in a day.
2. Let me pick out a few gay dudes who were in pictures with hot friends to talk to.
>without them thinking you’re hitting on them
I was just up front about how I'm looking for fun friends for going out and doing stuff. Gay guys are usually pretty chill that way. One just said, "Haha I knew you were too good to be gay" and joked around and added eachother on snap and stuff. I'm sure at some place in their minds they think there's a chance I'll frick them but frankly that's probably good and gets them wanting to go out on social outings with me and bring their hot friends.
Hmmm. Guess ill try that. One time I did set my thing to everyone the first few weeks to juke the ranking stats and tbh I wish I was gay. There were some fine mfers that super liked me. If you guys ever need a confidence boost I recommend it
Physique has regressed because I've neglected it over the last year since I've had heavy work travel. Swapped jobs and just bought a house so hoping to set up a home gym and get back on track.
>be 30+
>finally made it to managing a team of 5 data scientist at work in a tech company
>bought my own flat
>have my shit together
>literally no more free time to enjoy shit during the week and nowhere to go to find girls
just frick my shit up senpai
lmao soon we're going to have 50 year olds posting on IST.
my depression would go away if I didn't live in a shithole third world country
that's pretty much my only motivation to keep going and not off myself, i lift and save money in hope of one day be able to escape where i live for a better life
I've noticed ever since I turned 30 that my tinder matches have disappeared, which makes me think even hot girls into older guys set their age range at 29 maximum. Most girls don't even realize the apps set the max range to 5 years older by default and never change it, so to most girls 24 and under I'm not even appearing.
However I also think this is because my turning 30 has coincided with the end of the pandemic, and the pandemic was PEAK dating apps. It had girls who would never be caught dead on tinder not only making accounts, but actually using them and actually meeting up because lockdowns shut down everything else. That boost is gone now though. 2021 into first half of 2022 I was getting to bang a 8/10+ 18-21yo girl with issues every 2-4 months. Now it's been six months since I've gotten laid. I've had girls make plans and set dates in that time, but all flaked/ghosted the day of.
>35 next month
>pretty good shape due to home gym, nofap and good diet
>had a major health breakdown last year, got lots of food intolerances, thought I was about to die seriously a few times
>look at life different now, being desillusioned is actually good
>basically no savings
>shitty VW T5 with 280,000km mileage
>no job for a year
>finished school, no education or training after that... have been a NEET most of my life
>the thing that keeps me going is that I am a brilliant musician and pianist... I know, my moment will come
Based. Let's get it, fellow piano bro.
Bro you’re beta af. I wouldn’t play the piano with a weak loser like you. Frick off.
for me, its the bass guitar.
More like the beta guitar
i think drums is the most hi test
piano is the chad instrument, because it's a meta instrument that can emulate any other instrument. It's the instrument that was invented to enbody music theory.
https://knowledgenuts.com/alpha-wolf-myth/
>a myth about wolves that has been vociferously rescinded and debunked time and time again by the very poor sod that INVENTED it in the first place
>the dude LITERALLY spent the rest of his life trying to put an end to the moronic myth that he created by using faulty data on captive wolves
>the REAL wolf family structure has NOTHING to do with "alphas" or "betas", and everything to do with... familial bonds
>the alpha is the mother or father, often both. >they're just the parents
>so you take the provably, DEFINITIVELY faulty model of a completely disparate animal species, and apply it to HUMAN social structure
>the irony here is that you could conceivably apply the REAL wolf family structure to human family interactions, as both of our species are social pack hunters, but nooo, you have to try and apply the FALSE model
>inb4 that isn't a good example of when to use a greentext
You people are incredibly, astoundingly stupid. You couldn't recognise truth and reason if they clobbered you on the head.
first and foremost son embracing the incel identity is a self fulfilling prophecy if you accept that you cannot establish a romantic or sexual relationship the hopelessness will ingrain itself within your psyche and exacerbate defeatism
this defeatism will hinder your efforts to pursue relationships as it will incline you to believe you are destined to be alone you arent son you have great potential to meet people men and women alike and you can form great connections you just have to put your mind to it
so please son lets go do something go outside and find something you want to do youll find a gorgeous woman and make her very happy but this isnt helping turn off the computer for a bit find employment see the world meet people and enjoy earth for what it is before its too late
>point out that the beta/alpha dichotomy is pure moronation
>get attacked over unrelated things
>none of the accusations are even true
frick you buddy
son let me tell you a little secret about women that i learned from your mother women love a confident man with self respect and not to twist your arm but will you pull yourself up by your bootstraps or be a little sissy baby? love, dad
>33
>no education, no work experience
>lucky, healthy, fit
>life has never been better
I'd love to be more specific but I'm not about to share my life story on a djiboutian knitting forum.
I wrote this on a thread here few weeks ago but
>be 34 yo
>flirt with qt 30 yo coworker
>we kiss after some work party shit
>start to see each others twice a week, she is qt and super interesting to be with
>is stressed out when not drunk
>stressed out that much that she can't eat the day where we planned to meet
>told me she almost had panick attack after going home after
>told me she is freaking out because it's going "too well" (previous bf of 10 year was abusive)
>after 1 month, she tells me that she needs to sort her shit out by herself because she is too stressed out, and breaks up with me even though she thinks I'm perfect
>feels super bad
>new office party last week
>think I'll be able to talk to her
>she completely ignores me and avoids to make eye contact with me when we cross path in the stairs
damn bros, that's hard
the only way to find the one is to cure yourself of oneitis, let it go anon. billions of women and you're stressing about the one that is mentally ill, undependable and doesn't want to be with you.
she probably thinks she doesn't deserve good things because it was hard wired into her personality during her upbringing. It's sad, because there is probably not a solution to it other than years of therapy.
yeah, and she even told me this
she is a classic case of "my mom never loved me / never did shit for me", and she is even seeing a shrink about it
It just feels super bad when you have someone who clearly gives it up to "butthole guys" but can't function properly with a normal guy, and ends up stressing out because "it goes too well"
On my side I don't even care about her issues, I mean I'm quite strong mentally so I could help her deal with that shit
>I'm quite strong mentally so I could help her deal with that shit
It wouldn't matter, she would cheat on you because she's attracted to butthole guys.
This is not at all how it works. You can NEVER fix a damaged woman. Never, ever, it doesn't happen, it cannot happen. Broken women stay broken for life.
abuse her
yeah that's going to go great with work lol
if you want women like that, then yea. Though you should stay far away from women like that.
I'm doing aight. Got decent salary when I was 32. Got one kid, another on the way. Debating how many kettlebells I need for a solid home gym
well, this guy doesn't look too bad, does he? I don't get if there's supposed to be a joke I don't get. The glasses are horrible, though.
Going to be 31 in 3 days. Starting to feel my age sadly.
>Make $120-130K. Disciplined saver/investor.
>Went from "stressful" work to very low stress with minimal income loss.
>In pretty brutal shape by my standards, diet isn't great but could be worse - need to work on sugar intake.
>Played 2.5 hours of tennis yesterday and noticed the skill is still there just easily winded/weak.
Going to start going back to the gym 2 times a week. Much more manageable with my new work.
Can money-havers of fit give some us tips on investing?
Man - really no secret to this stuff.
Step 1 - make more than you spend.
Step 2 - utilize registered accounts to save on taxes.
Step 3 - invest in index fund etfs (vanguard, ishares), the younger you are, the more you should invest in equities as opposed to bonds (think like 80-100% equities vs bonds)
That's it. That's the secret to finances in 3 steps.
dude I'm 27 and still working an entry level job. Please ELI5 the index fund etfs and shit. like what the frick are you even talking about? is this just IST lingo for buying blue chip stocks?
just buy some silver with your excess cash. Market is going to take a shit within the next 3 years
silver and gold I know will never go down in value right? I need to lurk way more on IST its seriously hard to tell who is a shill and who is legit on that board.
I trust anons posting about non-board topics far more than what gets posted on their home board
>silver and gold I know will never go down in value right?
over a long period of time that's true, but definitely not true over short periods. That said I think it's a good thing to buy now considering the possible bank contagion going around right now. And we saw the fed immediately print to calm the markets so I think it's hard to go wrong with precious metals right now. They will likely drop for a short period if we get a massive event but should go up before other assets
>is this just IST lingo for buying blue chip stocks
Yeah, you got it pretty much.
When someone says, I buy "index funds", they are pretty much saying they are buying one or two "stocks", and these stocks are really a "fund" that owns a small piece of a bunch "blue chip" stocks (think 100s of stocks). By buying an index fund that covers 100s of stocks, you really don't care what happens with one company (say BoA) and now all you care about is how the overall market does.
Historically the market gains 5-7% a year (on average).
Throw what you've got into VOO or SPY, and don't try to time the market. Just hold that shit in there until retirement. Once you are 10-15 years from retirement start adding in bond funds bnd, bndx, tlt up to 40% of your portfolio. This is perfect for 95% of investors.
Once you've properly educated yourself you can take on more risk and play around with some stuff, but never sell what you've already invested into those market funds. And never frick with margin, futures, or options.
T-thanks bros
Don't take shortcuts. If you want to make money investing, do your due diligence and learn as much as you can about the asset (class) you're investing in or find a reputable money manager to handle the allocation for you.
>turned 34 a couple days ago
>bought 35 lb kettlebell exactly 1 year ago and started swinging
>learned proper push up and pull up technique, mix those in
>cut the garbage sugar and quit drinking
>married, kid due in October
>good new job
Things are going well. I was the definition of skinny fat last year. I'm 5'11 and I weighed 152 lbs at my lowest point. I'm up to 168 and look and feel so much better.
anyone else feel like the perfect catch?
>29
>good physique and strength, been at the gym 4 times a week for 5+ years
>5 rental properties pulling 8k a month
>make 130k a year (excluding rental income)
>educated
barely date/meet girls tho 🙂
How often do you leave the house?
just about everyday for errands and the gym friend!
>errands
So not gonna meet hot girls that way.
>gym
Ever talk to human females there?
i addressed that i barely meet girls/date friend - let me know if you have any suggestions!
Thanks.
When you're at the gym, talk to human females there.
kek not sure if this is bait, but dont fricking hit on women at the gym. You're there to fricking lift. Trying to talk to attractive women at the gym reeks of desperation. go to a fricking bar if you want to meet single chicks.
kek meanwhile instagram full of reels from thots posting about their guy gym crushes
Thanks white knight neet incel lmao
The gym is where I meet most girls. If you're actually attractive yourself and not an autist sperg girls will be happy to talk to you wherever you are, and the gym has the highest concentration of hot girls there.
Based. Biggest gains I made in q4 2022 is when I stopped 4 hour gym culture sessions and just did my set.
Also, I'd hate to sully the gym with fraternization gone bad. I see the same dudes talking all morning that spend an aweful long time in the sauna.....
I'm 24 but I lurk these threads to scare myself into doing stuff. WAGMI
its like ex-alcoholics that still going to AA meetings. hearing all these terrifying stories actually scares you straight.
False. I go to AA meetings well into sobriety because the women are hot and easy
>Age 35
>fricked over 100 girls but not married and no kids
>fit and under 12% bf
>still have my hair (slight norwooding only) but on finasteride
>currently seeing a 26 year old but she's Asian so I won't make babies with her
>Just in the last few years started making good money at work £100k+ per year, working frome home most days
>lost almost all my savings in crypto last year
>traveled to 45 countries
>drink about 4 beers per night as well as smoking a joint every night
Life is good and I feel like my life is actually at its peak but damn there is a voice in the back of my heads saying I should settle down before 40 or 45 max
35-36 is your last chance bro. Do you want to be 70 when your kids graduate?
>How's your lifting gains going?
pretty good, 185cm, 6'1" 82kg, 180lbs
>And more importantly how are your life gains going?
i don't really do anything else with my life, see question 1
>35yrs here I'm single and struggling.
34, virgin, watching anime
I'm 30.
Earn 250k a year.
Dating a 23 year old.
Pretty average for dude's my age.
lmao bro i'm almost the same: 29, 175k, 21 yo gf
how does it feel she only looks at you for your money? You are not a man, you're a bank account. That's the mentality of modern 23 year olds.
Not him but I wouldn't give a frick about that.
32. 225k. 20yo gf. its crazy how easy it is to break out of a normie 100k salary once you hit 30
I only started lifting at 32.
35 now and loving life.
Dont drink or eat slop so I look about 30, which is nice because I started my career late at around 25, so I'm right where I should be for "my age".
Everyone around me is falling apart due to sedentary lifestyle and binge drinking.
People around my actual age telling me of weird back pains they get "out of nowhere" or because they "slept wrong".
Sleeping is about the only thing they're doing right.
Zero medication, zero aids required, same hairline I had at 19, long may it continue pls