418lbs bench natty? Whats the natty powerlifting limit?

This guy is an italian powerlifter youtuber, claims natty and that he only trains squat, bench, deadlift, sometimes weighted chin ups and OHP.
In this picture he weighs 87 kgs x 170cm height
He has benched 190kg (400+lbs).
While his tecnique is for sure impeccable, I'm doubtful of his natty status seeing how he has bigger breasts than many bodybuilders do.

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    HE TRULY HAS BECOME
    LE ALPHADESTINY

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lol, my first idea.

      https://i.imgur.com/tvpAvGd.jpg

      This guy is an italian powerlifter youtuber, claims natty and that he only trains squat, bench, deadlift, sometimes weighted chin ups and OHP.
      In this picture he weighs 87 kgs x 170cm height
      He has benched 190kg (400+lbs).
      While his tecnique is for sure impeccable, I'm doubtful of his natty status seeing how he has bigger breasts than many bodybuilders do.

      >Whats the natty powerlifting limit?
      Depends on your weight class but for maxed out weight for powerlifting, I'll say 700lbs bench, 900lbs deadlift and 900lbs squat

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Keep in mind he has perfect leverages for bench. Short arms with a huge trunk (relative to height).

    Impressive no matter how you spin it but the guy is literally built for it.

    How many long armed lifters are putting massive benches?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm built similar to this guy, a little taller and weigh a little more but very similar body type. I've benched 335 once and I've been told by a coach I could possibly hit 400 one day if I get my technique worked out. Some people are just also naturally freakishly strong. So yeah I think it's possible natty.

      Ok so it is def possible, what about physique, this guy is nearly 40 years old and still is very big and relatively lean. Thats why I was thinking he must be atleast be on TRT. Any thoughts?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm almost 40 and I'm not too far off from this even with lower natural test. Maybe slightly smaller but more cut. If this guy was his size and shredded I might think TRT but what he has is perfectly achievable with hard work, diet and average genetics.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I'm almost 40 and I'm not too far off from this
          Post body.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Holy frick your post screams “I’m a weakling and looking to justify it, everyone who lifts heavy must be on roids”.
        He doesn’t look like he is on roids. Traps and delts look totally normal for his size, fave and skin look normal and he has quite a bit of body fat.
        Go and lift you utter homosexual and stop thinking everyone who lifts heavy must be on gear.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >natty
          is you believe him, you are certifiably moronic

          I'm getting mixed signals here, can you guys agree on one answer?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I’ll clear it up for you:
            This poster

            Holy frick your post screams “I’m a weakling and looking to justify it, everyone who lifts heavy must be on roids”.
            He doesn’t look like he is on roids. Traps and delts look totally normal for his size, fave and skin look normal and he has quite a bit of body fat.
            Go and lift you utter homosexual and stop thinking everyone who lifts heavy must be on gear.

            Is your prototypical ad hominem delusional moron who has no idea what he’s talking about and invariably (literally zero exceptions) has a dogshit physique. Seriously every single person who posts like this looks absolutely terrible but is completely delusional about it. So ignore.

            >natty
            is you believe him, you are certifiably moronic

            This guy is right. Simple, to the point, speaks of someone who is familiar with gear.

            https://i.imgur.com/tvpAvGd.jpg

            This guy is an italian powerlifter youtuber, claims natty and that he only trains squat, bench, deadlift, sometimes weighted chin ups and OHP.
            In this picture he weighs 87 kgs x 170cm height
            He has benched 190kg (400+lbs).
            While his tecnique is for sure impeccable, I'm doubtful of his natty status seeing how he has bigger breasts than many bodybuilders do.

            >low test face
            >old
            >weirdly overmuscled body compared to his frame
            >benching 418 while relatively lean
            He’s on gear. If someone is benching 418 it’s safe to assume juice but if someone is benching 418 and not huge and fat then they are 100% juicing

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              You know he's not only quite lean but he's also doing the proper PL "hold" at the chest for 1 second, no bouncing. He's also very focused on getting views and while his content is good he for sure is incentivized to look good. I just can't reconcile his training volume with that mass.
              You convinced me he's on TRT at the least.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >If someone is benching 418 it's safe to assume juice
              Lollllll just say you're dyel and leave

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Your test levels do not really drop until you are in your early 60s if you stay active and around 12-20% bodyfat

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        he's not on trt you can bench 200+ natty i know people who did it and i benched 180 myself as a natty

        my gains skyrocketed after i discovered strong natties (i benched 3 plates then and they benched 4+) and realised i'm just weak as frick and all i have to do is stop being scared of weights and push harder, programs are a meme, just train a bodypart balls to the wall once a week

        stop being a pussy and lift

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          This anon is correct. I have a smaller chest than the guy in OP and still bench 180 lifetime natural
          Ignore all the pussies itt who dont lift and probably look like shit

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            This is more or less the physique I would expect from someone that programs like a powerlifter, not the guy in OP. All his muscle groups are well developed despite him only doing low volume fundamentals, it simply does not add up

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              What? He looks exactly like youd expect. Look at other tested powerlifters in the same weight class. I also dont program like a powerlifter so maybe you just have no idea what you're talking about

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Powerlifters have the worst fiziks. Bench makes you have man breasts and rolled forward shoulders. Truly foul

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Im that guy. I dont do powerlifting. I have never trained powerlifting. You have no idea what you're talking about. Post body

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I want to suck on your boobies while you moo

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >this is the body of the average anon asking to post body

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        It’s not that he’s big it’s that he’s 40 which has me wondering if he blasts.
        I’ll be hopeful and assume he just takes care of himself

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          40 is like 5 years away from your peak. how much do you think testosterone drops every year? 50%?

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm built similar to this guy, a little taller and weigh a little more but very similar body type. I've benched 335 once and I've been told by a coach I could possibly hit 400 one day if I get my technique worked out. Some people are just also naturally freakishly strong. So yeah I think it's possible natty.

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dude is on TRT 100%

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The morons shitting this board with their crappy fake natty influencers are a fricking cancer and the reason I don't get in here anymore

      You fool no one and in reality people know you are an insecure homosexual

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sorry first time posting something like this, I just want someone to share this question with because this guy is very adamant that he's natty

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        The only insecure people here are the roid freaks who can't admit the OP subject is perfectly achievable lol

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Alpha Destiny if he wasn't a dwarf.

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >natty
    is you believe him, you are certifiably moronic

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pfff what’s up with that micro head

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    natty is so much more attractive omg it's not even close roidtrannies need to rope i hate HATE steroids they are the worst thing EVER!

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    some people just have strong androgen receptors on their chests
    havent worked out in 6 years but my chest puts on muscle (and fat) really easily
    legit had to not train chest because people kept asking me how much I bench (1 plate and they assumed 3-4). the thing was growing from fricking swimming ffs.

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is this natty? Like he trains alot of singles and mostly 5x5 5x3 and shit
    He has massive quads too

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Traps are absurd from the back. Zero percent chance he’s not using.

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    non-manlet version of alpha destiny?

    he has the same ugly physique

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >youtuber, claims natty
    [-]

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >170cm 87kg

    Yeah even 10cm taller and I would doubt it

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    That body is sex.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      homosexual alert

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Let’s see your breasts then.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Picture a strongfat body with pectus excavatum 🙁

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Gerard Butler?

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              chest is spot on, but I'm less fat around the shoulder-arms area

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm sick of seeing morons whose entire worldview depends on nobody having better genetics than they do. Not only do some people have better genetics than you do, some people have WAY better genetics than you do.

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Natty limits are, depending on bw and specialization and physiology etc
    Squat: 2.5x - 3.5x bw
    Bench: 2x - 3x bw
    Deadlift: 3x - 4x bw
    His numbers are well within the natty limit it seems

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