Is getting IST worth it at 5'7? I am 244 now. I lost a lot more weight but put it back on. I don't go outside, I am 21 and have autism. I use dating apps out of boredom and have never had a "thin" girl like me. And the girls that a bigger, well they don't even like
me most of the time. Only a few. Will dropping weight help?
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Dude, you are hugely obese. Outside of fetishists, no one will ever like you.
I mean if I lose it, will any chicks want me?
Probably not but do you have anything to lose by trying you fat sack of shit?
I am not gonna put in the effort for people to not like me.
Maybe you'll finally like yourself
This is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. You live in a society, liking yourself means frick all. All of the people I hear say that crap are depressed. Like they are chicks that are 300+ lbs and have mental health issues. I don't even think I have ever heard a man say this nonsense, lol.
It sounds dumb because you lack any sense of nuance to apply it beyond a cursory and shallow use case.
>You live in a society, liking yourself means frick all.
Living in a society is a function of your operation in it, not just the society's unidirectional impact on you. Do you think navigating these things is easier or harder with a self-destructive self-abusing behavior set?
>All of the people I hear say that crap are depressed.
WTF does that actually mean from your limited perspective. Do you think its because liking themselves makes them depressed?
maybe you could entertain a simple thought experiment to enhance your understanding; how do you treat people you like?
I want a social life, a wife and kids. I don't spend time thinking about how I view myself because it does not help me in life. I could think I'm the smartest guy on earth, that won't make it become true. I mean I have always heard that crap from people who are obese and have mental issues. I am not even trying to be a jackass. I have heard women use it only for some reason? Furthermore, I don't dislike myself or like myself. I acknowledge that I am human and have flaws as well as good traits.
>I could think I'm the smartest guy on earth, that won't make it become true
thats a category error, often made by people not taking their problems seriously enough to think about it.
Liking yourself ≠ self delusion. it has nothing to do with thinking you're smart.
>I have heard women use it only for some reason?
oh. thats because women as a group suffer from anxiety at a higher rate than men as a group. Therefore their behaviors act out their anxiety more frequently.
but ultimately your premise here is flawed:
>I don't spend time thinking about how I view myself because it does not help me in life.
There is more of a link to how you act and view yourself than you think. And if how you act has any affect on helping you in life, it would be wise to learn how tied together it is.
Just think about it: do you do everything (within your capabilities)you think of yourself doing or plan to 100% of the time? If not, why not? You can think about doing it, and its within your capabilities, why dont you? The answer must be simple right? Just do it. Or just maybe its more complicated than that, otherwise nobody would ever have problems.
Thank you, you make good points. The question I asked has nothing to do with liking myself. I would love it if we could be back to my question. I think your comments are not very intelligence but I respect them.
That depends on how OP is defining worth it. If the goal is more relationship success, probably. Not being morbidly overweight is a sign of self discipline and delayed gratification at the very least, both of which women find desirable in a relationship typically. Stability.
if the goal is more sexual success, that depends largely on the type of women you are pursuing first, and you second.
but in both cases, if you are doing it only for those reasons, then as soon as those factors are threatened, you'll revert your behavior. just like you already did by gaining it back.
which is why this anon posted this:
I don't dislike myself though... So, I mean? I like Tae Kwon Do, I like the gym. I have autism which makes Tae Kwon Do really hard but I have like that since before I even liked girls, you know? The weight I lost was a result of me not eating crap food when I was in the hospital. I lost so much so quickly because I could not eat. So it was not ever natural weight loss, you know? I hope I did not come off as rude, but do we really need to have this "love yourself, dawg" stuff when I asked a question about girls? I am not even meaning to say I won't keep trying to lose weight, I am just assessing how much effort I should put into it and if good things will come from it. That guy assumed so much based off of nothing. I don't dislike myself, never have.
Me not too long ago.
The social anxiety/autism is what kind of keeps me from going to the gym a lot of times. So it is a huge deal for me. We I do get to go I always do 50 minutes on the treadmill.
>be fat, lazy, obese, zero willpower consoomer coombrain
>be fit, active, disciplined, someone who's actually impressive
Which one of them do you think creates a positive image of you in other people's minds? Which one of them do you think creates a positive image of yourself in your own mind?
My guy, I had a chick go for a guy that was bigger than me. He was huge. I know many people fatter than me who get girls. You can be fat, lazy, have zero willpower and still get positive attention. I have had positive interactions with people, I am polite, quiet, and a good listener. That is how I am. I am asking you nicely to please actually read what I post and assume random things out of thin air.
You're fat and lazy, you'll have to bring a lot more to the table to attract women than if you weren't. The people you described who did well with the grills most likely had tons of charisma which can make up for a lot of other bad qualities.
You're obese so you're by default moronic and have literally zero class.
Also, when you use terms like "coombrain" it is hard for me not to question your intelligence. Please, this isn't /b/. Have some class, hahaha.
this is the only answer that really matters at this point.
I hope my reply wasn't rude, but guys need to stop listening to this advice.
Homeless, obese, short, ugly, everyone hates him.
"Well, at least I like myself, fellas!"
"Like yourself" is extremely dumb. I don't like or dislike myself, I don't spend time thinking about such silly concepts. I cannot afford to. Part of being alive and being a human, means you need other people to at least care about you.
>I don't like or dislike myself, I don't spend time thinking about such silly concepts. I cannot afford to.
you're a person, right? How you treat people means that you yourself fall under that rubric.
>you need other people to at least care about you.
and exactly what would you think about encountering a person who treats themselves poorly, like they don't value themselves and behave accordingly?
I don't treat myself poorly in general. Also, no I would not treat another person poorly. You're assuming random things off of a post about me asking how women will perceive me. I am not self abuse, have lost weight, but I have eyeballs and a brain. I am asking if losing weight is worth it.
one life, it's worth a shot.
not really in my case. Life doesn't have value to me I guess? I just wanna chill and have fun,
>I mean if I lose it, will any chicks want me?
The chance is never 100%, but much better than now.
No I’m Same height and lost weight and went to gym and literally nothing changed
thank you. I am fricked. Well, I have autism so I guess it does not change much, haha.
i'm 5'7 145. still cant get laid
Is it well and truly over for 5’7cels?
yes. I have autism and never leave my house, so I will cope by saying I could get hella pussy if I got out more!
>Is it well and truly over for 5’7cels?
I dont know eh, I have started my journey with LL operation, my shins are a whole centimeter longer already
I want to get it. Should I get my ma to pay for it?
Sorry but you must be weird, stinky or ugly (or a combination of all three).
I’m a bald, 5’7 manlet who works out, 185Ibs, and I still get laid. If I can do it, so can you.
It’s a short life, make the most of it.
Either larping or literal trannies
Not stinky, I am weird (PDD-NOS) and ugly though. I have good hair, well good hair growth? But no style and never leave my house. Can't drive, shy, quiet, speech impediment. My hair is longer and goofy now, but this is the most recent picture on my desktop. Mods please delete if against the rules.
My hair is much bigger now.
Lmao. Post a picture of urself and u can get a rating otherwise how would we kkow? Must be weird having autism and unable to understand anything social. Ur best bet is probably to find an autistic girl, atleast you will be alle to relate to each other in some way
kek. I'm 5'7" be t I've never been an obese sack of shit in my life so sucks to suck.
you're 21 so you still have time, but you should've never been fat in the first place
I'm commenting because I was in your exact situation at 21. 5'7", at an even heavier 270lbs. Learned more about nutrition, learned how to lift. I cut, eventually running once I was light enough. Then I started lifting. I got a girlfriend not even before I started lifting, around the 170lbs range and still losing. At 2 years lifting now and 3 years into the relationship.
You are young and you are lighter than me. Ignore the other posters. The best time is now, and you have all the time in the world to get real strong and real healthy and real fit. And yes, women will drool over you if that's important to you. Make sure to take care of your mind also and your interpersonal relationships and make friends too. We're all going to make it.
*Lighter than me at the time. You have a leg up on me! Godspeed, anon.
is the joke here that the kid is chinese and man is white?
>5'7 244
>And the girls that a bigger, well they don't even like
>me most of the time. Only a few.
Highly doubt, I don't think anyone liked you
You're probably right. I did an experiment where I used older photos where I was thin and I got like one girl who said I was hot. She wasn't thin yourself though, so I guess my question is more like, is it worth the effort for what I want in life?
Don't ask me mf. Don't wait for anonymous to give you motivation.
Your discipline and motivation has to be internal or else it's gonna fizzle out in a minute.
>is it worth the effort for what I want in life?
You have no choice. You have to be fit, healthy and look good to not be treated like shit in any aspect of life. From getting a job and performing at your work, all the way to being helped at a grocery store.
You have to be good looking for yourself not for anybody else. You set the standard for yourself.
Do you accept it for yourself if by some miracle a "chick" let you smash, and you unzip your pants, letting the fat rolls come out while also being unable to get hard from all the years of bad food, no exercise, and death-gripping to porn? Women are right to not have sex with your fatass.
You have to put in effort to achieve meaningful things in life, the sooner you learn that the less regret you'll have.
How the frick are yall so fat at 5'7? The most I have weighed at this height is 69kgs which is what I weigh rn. I can't even imagine myself above 75kgs without being a fatass.
Never leaving the house, having no outside hobbies, only being good with computers and nothing else. Eating too much and not working out.
Some anon said he would rate me? Please dooo! Hair is much longer now.
>hair is much longer now
bad. but face has potential, just get around 15%
long hair bad? let me show you how my hair looks now. plz stay in thread.
It's over. Not really but stop being a needy b***h and work on yourself.
Don't make that nappy hair longer you dusty ass moron
Always short and trimmed
The hell? I always thought my hair was cool.
>fatnig
not really ugly so just work out, eat right, and go do something in spaces with autistic girls you'll be fine.
"not really ugly"
Oh, o. that does not sound good, thank you though, haha.
Hair looks better short and dropping some weight and building some muscle will help but whats probably fricking you the most is the social anxiety, get that under control and you can be the goofiest autist and have no problem finding some hot weird girl you get along with that wants dick.
lil bro (I'm 5'10) please do yourself some good lose the weight
even if you die alone you'll live an additional 30 years
lmao, 30 years of this shit? Nah, I'm good homie.