>99% of people who lift started lifting in their teens
>started when i was 23
>ill NEVER have teen gains
>i missed out on basically 7 years of lifting
is it even possible to cope with this? should i kms?
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take hgh and test boom there u go u get ur puberty gains
teen gains = doesn't know what the frick they're doing aka wasted time in the gym fricking around
Teen gains = push ups, pull ups, ab work, and maybe curls at home for me. Gave me an elite physique at 22 now after just over 3 years in the gym.
teen gains end at 18, 19 isnt a teen, try again
I did the stuff I mentioned from around 11 to 18 years old, then I went to the gym and have rarely done anything at home since.
>19
>NINETEEN
>19 isnt a teen
I'll also add this teen bodyweight starting point is how many of the best physiques are made. Calum Von Moger specifically talked about how he started with something similar when he was younger. Doing this will give you the best mind-muscle connection and core control for transferring into weight lifting properly and being able to properly activate muscles. Bodyweight exercises are superior because moving your body through space is a more natural movement pattern. Once you plateau with what you're doing with bodyweight because of either balance or aerobic restrictions (gymnasts can progress much further with just bodyweight because of their skill) then it makes sense to move on to weights.
>started lifting in my teens
>stopped when I hit lmao1pl8 because I didn't predict my future crippling body dysmorphia
just dont let lifting become a personality. youll never be a competitive lifter so you should just exercise to be healthy. most people on IST have so little going for them in life that lifting is the only that they have some control over so they get autistic about it which makes them the adult age equivalent of DnD nerds back in high school.
I started lifting at 15, Im 35 now.
I definitely do notice a difference between myself and those who started in their 20s
I guess what im saying is my "frame" was developed along side the gym, so I have a "naturally" muscular build now, no matter what I do or how I train
But I notice those who started late, their growth development already completed, its hard to explain but it seems like they just permanently stuck with a DYEL frame as they were inactive during their developmental years.
It's so over
Its not over, you can still go for the lean guy with a 6 pack mode, but you cant get that dense/built look someone who started lifting during their physical development has.
single mothers and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
thats it, im killing myself
Im
I will also add, the same goes for people who were fat during their physical development. They will always have far higher fat cell count in their body than someone who was never fat during physical developmental stages. This means the persons will have more difficulty with hunger as more fat cells produces more hunger signals.
I am sorry to burst your guys bubble, but being an inactive skeleton teen or inactive fat teenager who has never touched a weight until after your physical development ended, you will never be like someone who was actively lifting during that development stage.
Its literally that fricking simple, cant handle the truth? STIFF!
homie you are 35 you've had more years to lift of course you are going to be more developed
Genetics determine your frame moron. It's got nothing to do with the gym. Exercise can determine your posture, which can affect development, but muscular imbalances is not something you can't adress, it'll just be harder later on. And your frame is determined by your bones, which is genetics.
If you see someone who's just starting out and they look like DYELs, it's because they are DYELs, not because they just started out. There are probably many more who just started out but that you wouldn't think are DYELs, because they weren't genetically inclined to be
I started exercising in my 30s and could immediately curl 50lbs with shit form, whereas my friends who'd exercised all their lives couldn't even curl 40lbs
It's genetics. Don't demoralize OP.
Youre moronic.
hes obviously being disingenuous, why even try?
because someone might believe him
that makes sense, go for it then, demoralizers are genuinely the worst posters on this board
Everything plateaues at some point, and nobody has always been consistent unless they are professional athletes or something like that so you are effectively talking about 0.01 percent of the entire human population.
I had a black friend in high school who refused to lift with us because he was aspiring to make it into the NBA and he was afraid that lifting would stunt his growth. I've always felt like he was probably right and I'd be taller if I didn't lift in my teens. I started lifting when I was 13, but it was pretty casual. It was mostly bench press and bicep curls with old sand filled plastic weights. But I became fanatical at 15. If I could go back in time, I would have stuck to body weight exercises only.
if you believe in teen gains somehow being steroid-like you are fricking moronic. Look up jeff nippard's and candito's powerlifting records at their younger ages, it's not ungodly but obviously they will have a strength base already built by their 20s
Strength is different, it doesn't really matter when you start if you're talking about strength.
But the "look" definitely matters. The hormones being activated when you're a active lifter during your physical development cause your frame and muscle appearance to change. Something that would not occur if you were inactive during your physical development.
This is what I am talking about here.
>making up bullshit to demotivate people
This board is so fricking dog shit
Do you actually think starting lifting when your going through physical developmental stages is exactly the same as if you started lifting YEARS AFTER your physical developmental stage ended?
This is common sense shit right here.
Yeah they're coping. Obviously when you're younger it's easier to form the neural pathways and have better motor unit recruitment and mind-muscle connection. No elite lifters or elite physiques were built in people's 20s.
Its not even just that, its also the bone itself, and the frame of the bone.
My brother and I are both 6'1, but I have a very wide shoulder frame, and my brother has a DYEL shoulder frame, the only difference is that I lifted from age 15, and he never touched a weight until he was about 28.
His shoulders will never be like mine, no matter what he does, his perma-stuck with narrow shoulders.
Looking at photos of us when we were kids, we both had the same width shoulder girdle, but now i brutally mog his shoulder width, and I put that entirely down to having started lifting when my body was still developing.
Yeah definitely. The bone density and growth hormone increase is backed up by "the basedence" and the most apparent difference in my opinion between someone who started lifting young and someone who didn't is lifting skill, engaging the right muscles.
show literally anything reputable to support your claim or kys, also
>a minute apart with same typing style
have a nice day samegay demotivater
I'm
Physical and mental development. Just about everything is easier to learn before you hit your 20s. Languages, musical instruments, movement patterns like running and throwing.
Yeah, everything you do during that time becomes who you will be for the rest of your life.
If you were a sedentary inactive skeleton throughout your entire childhood, teen years, and up until your physical development ended, you literally CANNOT escape that phenotype.
Your chance of escaping that phenotype was to begin lifting as your body was in its last few years of major growth (ie: ages 14-17) Although most gyms wont let you lift until youre 15, in my area no gyms allow anyone under 15, so thats when i started, at 15.
No it doesn't lmao at most maybe you'll get some chest expansion from doing pullovers when your body is still developing.
>99% of people who lift started lifting in their teens
do you have a source for that you stupid homosexual? also kys
you can get the noobie gains your entire life
having said that, you might not want to do linear progression when you're starting getting near 40 years old. it's just a bit too risky
I started at 27. You can still build a decent physique
It just won't have the same look and won't generate the same power as someone who did it younger, that's the difference. Not saying it's not worth trying still. From my anecdotal experience
and from boomeranon 35 year old guy in this thread.
>won't have the same look and won't generate the same power as someone who did it younger
probably true, but so what?
I personally was a skinny homosexual emo kid as a teen so I am infinitely strogner than I was back then, that's good enough for me
I'm 31 and skinnyfat, if I start now what I'm in for?
sadness
You can get lean and get abs, but you wont even have what is considered a "built" body. You'll be perma-stuck either choosing between being really underweight with a shitty 6 pack, or having a gut and being "somewhat" built.
Its the same way you'll never be as talented as someone who started playing an instrument at age 5.
The same way professional athletes are determined at age 5.
Yeah and you know what, Im literally considered an "outlier" in my family in terms of what my body looks like, and I dont just mean muscles, I mean frame. I am the only one in my family with a "muscular" looking frame. The only explanation for that is the type of physical activity I had during my physical development (ie: bodybuilding from age 15).
I also mention that fact that it doesn't matter how I train now, I still retain this "look". My hormones when experiencing bodybuilding as I was still growing at 15-16-17 etc so it caused my body to grow in a certain way.
Speaking of that, this is why those people want to give teens troony pills, if they dont give them pills when theyre teens, they'll risk getting masculine physical development that sets in stone by the time theyre 18 and thus they'll always look like a man no matter what pills they take.
Don't worry most teens are training properly to take advantage.
You basically run out of natty gains in 4 years of bodybuilding
then why does anyone still lift after 4 years?
You can still get around ~1 pound of lean tissue a year after and need to maintain what you built. That adds up after decades.
To maintain
You can always improve in certain ways, gains dont get "locked in" its a constant process. Like a game of whack a mole.
There's also a factor of "muscle maturity" and more mature muscle seems to have a different look. The term is more common with professional bodybuilders but it still applies to naturals. A guy in his 30s lifting for 15 years will have more dense muscle that will tend to stick around even in a caloric deficit.
A lot of people half-ass it and don't get there in four years. Strength gains can increase too, since a lot of that is nervous system adaptation.
Even without perfect training, you can get 80% of your natty hypertrophic limit within a few years, most of it coming in the first 12-24 months of noob gains.
Obviously depends on your genetics. Taller guys likely have a lot more in the tank because recovery is that much harder when you have a bigger frame and more muscle to pack on. I still regularly get sore going hard.
>demoralization thread
Your "frame" is your skeleton
Your skeleton is not affected by going to the gym
You started lifting earlier because you were more naturally athletic, not the other way around
Your skeleton is ABSOLUTELY affected by going to the gym. This is why old people should do resistance training, because resistance training makes your bones thicker and denser and for old people it would prevent breaks. This is basic stuff even normie doctors preach.
>bones thicker
Please elaborate how bones become "thicker" except for by trauma
>denser
Not part of your frame
If your frame is to become significantly different we are talking about a larger skeleton capable of carrying longer muscles. Do you have a program for this?
Your frame is most definitely affected by the gym if you started lifting when your frame was still in development. I am living proof of that.
>You started lifting earlier because you were more naturally athletic, not the other way around
Nope. I hated playing sports and quit them all, and my old man said I need to do some kind of physical activity and I decided to try lifting out, and I fell in love with it at 15 and never stopped.
I hated sports because I had to rely on a bunch of shitters to win, but in the gym the responsibility is all on yourself to win, which is why its based and best form of exercise.
>I am living proof of that.
>refuses to post any pics of himself
>ignores any question asked to substantiate his claims
Okay
You're one of the people who says "amazing he just has a normal human skeleton underneath" when in reality people will be able to tell bodybuilders were absolute units by their skeletons in thousands of years. It's called "skeletal muscle" it attaches directly to the skeleton, and your skeleton adapts.
>It's called "skeletal muscle" it attaches directly to the skeleton, and your skeleton adapts.
Post source
Not some roided up troony on HgH
Your body produces growth hormone in response to resistance exercise. That alone is obvious proof that your skeleton must grow, along with every other tissue in your body basically which is affected by GH. I'm not your search engine so go find it yourself.
Why is it just me and you here who understand this, why is everyone else here copeing so fricking hard?
This shit is common sense. How they're acting so shocked is hilarious to me. Do they unironically think it makes 0 difference being completely inactive sedentary during physical development vs being active (and specifically LIFTING WEIGHTS) during physical development, wont lead to drastically different results???
Frick sake why am I even wasting my time here lol
Lifting weights isn't the only way to be active. Having that attitude is what turns people off from physical activity because it's a boring way to be in shape for most people.
I recall reading something about archeologists being able to tell how muscular someone was by looking at the point on the bones where the tendon attaches. I think that deeper 'hole' in the bone means bigger muscle.
Someone post that "30 year old boomer in the gym" wojak meme
Its a skinnyfat dyel with a shit frame, and its got truth to it, the 30 year olds who started lifting cannot escape that shit lmao
Have this one
>Me on the left raised on meat and exercising as a teen
>Guy on the right ate bread and goyslop and played vidya
>STILL doesnt post anything to support his claim except some bodybuilder and more bullshit rambling
Real compelling
Stop being a homosexual. I didn't start until I was 22, and my best gains came when I was in my early 40s. I still mog 99% of the younggays now that I'm 49. Feels BETTER to be middle-aged, strong and IST than it ever would have if I'd hit my goals in my 20s. But back then, I was moronic, so I lost years to doing gay bro splits and doing too much cardio.
I don't get why you guys place so much importance on 'muh gains'. It's nice to have, but it won't make your life do a complete 180 if you are in the gutter unless you work on other things as well. It's probably the least important thing to work on in terms of life quality.
Muh gains doesn't matter as much once your frame is done growing. Exercise and proper diet young also helps your skull shape develop.
we had to run, do calisthenics and bodyweight exercises, and lift weights when i was in school. it was mandatory for everyone. so im not sure what everyone is talking about this "lifting or not lifting" when a teen lol. i still ended up being a skinny DYEL, genetics and not eating enough right there. but i did have a nice foundation i guess for when i started lifting again 10+ years later, strength went up super fast, weight didnt go up super fast but it was always lean mass i barely held fat. ive only just recently started to notice some fat around my abs after being sedentary for 6 months. which got me to start lifting again a few weeks ago lol
you probably would have been susceptible to steroid using morons and got sucked into it too
there's always a positive side to it
>start at 30
>look better than I ever have at 31
Don't worry about what you can't change, hand that over to God and keep going
STARTED EARLY 30,
TWINKS AND TEENS MOGGED
I started when I was 30. I got in shape in 2 years. Why would you seethe over something like this moron?
This clown world has stripped all physical activity out of school because they want to tick all the boxes of prepping you to be a worker drone in some shithole office