>Absolutely destroys your cut
Add sugar to your coffee and yoghurt? Still lose weight.
Eat a single slice of bread? Weight loss stalls.
I'm convinced this stuff is worse than white sugar.
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eat whole grain
That and people don't understand how powerful of an energy source bread is. If you're a sedentary homie you need to cut it off at like two slices for a sammich when cutting bf. If that.
>how powerful of an energy source bread is
Started to make my own pizzas and just for a small pizza the dough takes around 100g or 360 cals of flour. Add in the toppings and cheese and jesus fricking christ how many calories you end up with.
>calories are le bad
are le bad
Not that bad when I plan for them, but it still is quite a surprise if you have never thought about how many calories are in different ingredients.
It's the fuel of great Empires anon. When you think about it obesity is more of a skill issue. There is a solid argument for the sneed oil, pesticides/herbicides and etc being horrible for human health. But really it's also that we simply eat more carbs and bread than ever in the west.
During the industrial revolution, no one was eating whole pizzas and shit. And labor was still very energy-demanding. Cubicle cucks simply don't need that much food, especially bread, but they still consume simple carbs at higher levels than most agricultural workers historically.
>solid argument for the sneed oil being horrible for human health
What was that one again?
>inflammation
>shitty omega 6 ratio
>Ultra-Processed foods and products
>goitrogens
I think goitrogens are less of a problem in some sources though, such as fish and nuts rich in PUFA. Peet homies became too puritanical about PUFAs imo.
There is also some things understudied, like the effects on skin health and metabolic health. But from what studies that do exist, it points to seed oils being not great for health.
what does the inflammation that other oils such as olive don't do
I think I understand what you're asking.
At base it has to do with how the oils are processed. But humans have been able to make olive oil via cold pressing since prehistoric times, it doesn't require an industrial process beyond a simple press.
Like coconut oil, it's also pressed from a fruit, and not the seed of a fruit or flower or legume. It's not so much about a certain type of fat or ratio in that, but that the less processed fruit oils retain their antioxidant properties and nutrition, without any added chemicals and bullshit. The industrial process to remove the bad smells and inedible contents of seed oils also removes what antioxidants and other nutrients.are in the seeds (like if you just ate a handful of seeds, this is typically quite healthy imo). It's the industrial process that created seed oils in the first place that turns them into basically liquid AIDS in the end.
This is why I asked, because the explanations I've heard never go all the way from a to b. If it's just removing antioxidants that's bad, I could take antioxidants and eat canola oil and be fine, right? If it's added industrial chemicals, which ones?
>If it's just removing antioxidants that's bad
I don't think it is, but rather removing any nutritional value in the seed and putting the seed oil through an intricate industrial process in order to make the inedible oil substance into one that is edible.
>Can I just add antioxidants
You can of course try. I won't be touching that SHIT though. I don't know how to make a seed oil and would only use it for fuel in a vehicle if that, it's not fit for living beings to consume.
I don't eat oil for vitamins. I cook eggs with it, and use olive oil anyway for the fat ratios.
But it's never like "Canola has 50mg of [carcinogen]" it's vague stuff like it being processed. Chemicals don't care how they were made or what they used to be. Not that I have, but if you look at it in an electron microscope and it's the same lipid as another oil, there can't be any other difference. It just is what it is.
if you actually care look into biology. some topics for guidance; estrogen, metabolism, lipogenesis, thyroid, testosterone, lipolysis
I do care but when you get a certain age and the recommendations have changed multiple times since you started paying attention, at some point you probably stop. Last I heard they said something was better than olive oil, but I don't even really believe it because it'll be something else next year. Possibly beef tallow.
yeah you basically can't trust most science. it cannot be reproduced and most things only get published if they support the funders and the data is often misrepresented. investigating biology and looking at legacy products is good guidance but ultimately we live in current year not legacy year so your diet should reflect that. lots of people like to larp as cavemen but the caveman didn't have water that turned the frogs gay.
olive oil is mostly monounsaturated and it's also high in Vit. E, which is the counter to fat metabolism, and Vit. K. although it is K1 and it's only converted in low quantities to K2.
dietary influence on health is something that takes a long time to have an effect, unless you're eating some acutely toxic drug like rat poison. it's more about stacking things in your favor over the long-term, and supplementing if you think you need to correct something in the short-term.
Actually the human data shows the opposite and thats it's generally health promoting and protective.
Studies ultimately funded by Cargill and others would show that their product is health promoting and protective. Reminiscent of when the public started to notice the health problems associated with cigarettes and combat the brand through memes, Philip Morris and other companies would pay for doctors and studies to shill smoking. At one point the majority of scientific literature pointed to smoking being healthy or certain types of cigarettes as "less irritating". Which is as fake and gay as calling seed oils "protective".
What makes a seed oil "protective" exactly? Perhaps the vitamin e content that one could get by eating a small amount of the seeds in their whole food form? Without the chemical frickery that only corporations can profit from, or is that an essential step in their protectiveness?
It's all marketing.
>slave feed is bad
big news
I'm really noticing this. It's moronic how much carbs and calories are in this shit. I buy gluten-free powder and make my own dough and ONE FRICKING SLICE still makes me gain two kgs in a day.
Never had such problems honestly. It's you, not the bread. You eat way too much.
>a slice of bread
No, it's not the slice, it's just that you overindulge. When you are willing to really cut, you will completely cut out bread and that's probably where the correlation comes from. You're more determined I'm your cut when you don't eat bread
Its funny cause i most certainly am leaner and more fit than you and eat shit tons of bread. Just make your own homosexual, unironically its so easy
There is absolutely nothing wrong with white sugar, and it does not make you fat.
Only fat frick Americans believe this. People who are IST eat as much sugar and carbs as they want
>Eat a single slice of bread? Weight loss stalls.
Nah I got to my leanest eating homemade bread with peanut butter for breakfast every morning.
you must be talking about american bread made with corn syrup.
if it tastes sweet, it's not bread, it's cake.
Signed, a european baker.
Ever since I found this rye sourdough my life changed.
>rye sourdough
Nord homies, we're back
Aryan master race, brother
I agree. Bread fricks with my stomach somehow.
>fatty who adds sugar to yoghurt complains about bread
lol
lmaoing if it turns out OP is american and doesn't even know what bread is
I'm going to make bread tonight. I forget if I have whole grain flour or not. That will determine what kind of bread I make.
Stop overeating you fricking low willpower monkey. If you're getting fat off bread you are legitimately a moron.
Subway is my weakness, and it stalls my cut progress without fail even when I'm below my caloric intake
>TFW gluten bloats me like a cow
I’ve been eating this buckwheat sourdough from my local GF bakery and it fricks.
When they had a GF and Gum Free Soda Bread, Holy shit. It was THE best bread I’ve ever had.
Take your meds you fatass. You'd have to eat tons of slices to be ruining a cut off bread of all things.
You need rehab anon.
meds now
Post body
No, child. It is you who shall post their body.
I already did
>incredibly moreish and deceptively airy foods like crackers, bread, chips and fries which don't trigger leptin make you overeat and get fat
>IT MUST BE INTERNAL ALCHEMY UNABLANCING MY Qi AND HUMORS AAAAAA BREAD IS MAKING ME INSANE!!!!
MEDS
>has sustained human beings for over 10000 years
>suddenly in 2024 it's le bad
This, but unironically. (They changed it)
Been cutting past few weeks. Weight is coming off nicely and I eat bread every day.
i dont eat much bread anymore despite it being a staple in my country and everytime i decide to buy a loaf again (usually rye/wholewheat sourdough) and eat it over a couple of days/week, i seem to hold more water, like an extra kg that always seems to come off after a few days after the bread is gone
i always thought its the salt or sth but i usually eat oat slop instead which i heavily salt too so thats probably not it so im just gonna attribute it to the yeast
>I buy gluten-free powder
okay fatty
maybe you're just eating poor quality bread.
I'm enjoying a slice of my Boudin Sourdough right now.
Nah, you're gay
I eat bread every single day and the cut is going great. That's just a problem with american """"bread""""
Buy your flour and make them yourself. If you add sugar, you're gay.
Trvke
>a seed of a plant
>packed with enough energy to literally grow another plant
>grind up those seeds into a dust that contains the energy to produce hundreds if not thousands of new plants
>woah why is flour/bread so calorie dense!
dis homie eatin tall grass seeds
the fat that you eat is the fat you wear
all starchmaxxed carbchads are shredded
>all starchmaxxed carbchads are demented
ftfy. human brains need animal fat