>accelerates the skin aging cycle
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>accelerates the skin aging cycle
>accelerates the skin aging cycle
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My forehead wrinkles became significantly less visible after like 3 months of this stuff, idk what you're on about
Use as directed tho the initial dryness is no fricking joke
my advice is
moisteriser --> tretinoin/differin or w/e you use --> remoisterise
cleanse face > tret, every other night, let set for 20 mins > hyaluronic acid, let dry > peptide moisturizer
enjoy baby ass skin in 3-4 weeks
maybe go easy on the tret every other night seems a bit intense, i do twice a week, but i suppose everyones different
yeah you’re right anon, every other night might be excessive. it’s definitely excessive with the .1% but i use .05% and my skin handles it okay.
probably should have clarified that you need to work up to it as that shit fricking rapes your moisture barrier if you’re not used to it or use it too often
>that shit fricking rapes your moisture barrier if you’re not used to it or use it too often
This is what eating liver does to your internal tissues with vitamin A poisoning.
does this stuff just make your skin smoother and tighter? i don't really have any wrinkles since i never go out into the sun and i moisturize every night with some cerave as well as some vitamin C serum
should i bother? i'm new to skincare and still learning on what i should be using
i just know that chud lines run in my family and im trying to avoid them through preventative measures kek
im no science gay, my autism lies in other areas but it basically just stimulates skin cell production and turnover, basically speeding up skin regeneration, which slows down as you get older. blah blah something about improving collagen production and shit, idk. it works and it’s proven to work and you will see results and preventative use is always better. it makes your skin UV sensitive so only use it at night.
also move the vit c serum to the morning and use a hyaluronic acid serum at night after the tret has dried.
basic but mildy advanced routine-
every morning: cleanser/mild exfoliant, vit c serum, moisturizer
every night: cleanser, hyaluronic acid, moisturizer
every 3 nights: cleanser, tret, hyaluronic acid, moisturizer.
i also double cleanse 3-4 days a week with differin cleanser with benzoyl peroxide to keep away acne/blackheads.
i also use some korean cleanser i bought from this beauty store once a week. smells like an asian gf i had and it works really well for cleansing but it kills your moisture barrier so i only use it once a week.
the biggest thing with cleansing and exfoliating is that it will dry out your skin so you NEED to start slowly and figure out how your skin will react to it all and to ALWAYS keep it moisturized. not to the point of greasy but to the point where you have a shine and glow to your skin.
good luck anon, let me know if you have any product questions as its a rest day and im spending my night on IST so ill be here to help. 🙂
post face. that will validate everything you said
yeah or just do your own research you dumb wrinkled homosexual
I accept your concession facelet.
>perpetually online pajeet instareplying to a response to a 12 hour old post
you’ve been lurking the thread this whole time just waiting, haven’t you? lol. lmao even. go outside fatty
>do your own research
me doing research is asking smooth faced homies how they did it
I’ve used differin for a few years and it’s worked really well but tbh I just haven’t really heard of any other brands
What do other people use?
Also been thinking about adding an AHA cream once or twice a week, is that too much in addition to the differin?
Can you rabbi go advertise your fricking anti-aging shit elsewhere?
I'm really tired of your marketing campaign here every day, people are not gonna buy whatever product you're trying to sell here
nice reading compression, it was only 5 words and you still fricked it up
you mad grandpa?
>people are not gonna buy whatever product you're trying to sell here
Nah, I bought retinol and salicylic acid because of IST.
I never even heard of retinol, finasteride or ZMA before IST and I have used all of those
and?
In case yall dont know what dry skin looks like allow me to explain. Dry skin is obvious, yes, but you have to know exactly what it is so you're not surprised.
Basically, it looks like multiple skin pieces are peeling off, pic related. It is not always in complete sheets and it can looks like moldy shit in severe cases. For your face, it is not ashy like black people call it, usually. Rare cases might be that severe to the point of ashy and scaly.
It is also not a uniform progression in the sense that it doesnt always happen where you wanted it to be. If you put it on your entire face, it may only be the sides of your mouth and not your cheek. Or only your T zone and nose, or only forehead and jaw. It's somewhat unpredictable, which makes spot targeting almost useless.
Supposedly, Adapalene/Tretinoin can resurface the skin to heal ance scars too. So, ideally you wanna spot treat it right? Well, we just dont know if it works because you might not see any peeling there, which would suggest skin turnover. Still, use it anyway, just dont fixated on it.
purely a diet issue
tretinoin is just covering it up
stop eating slop and drink more water
it doesn't. skin cell turnover isn't the aging cycle, you absolute fricking moron. there are people who've been on it for decades and they always look much younger than they are
>source: my ass
>get a UVB reptile lamp
>tan face for a few minutes a day
>close your eyes because it's like looking into high noon sunlight
>UVB light kills bacteria
>all the bacteria in your pores are dead after a few days
>no more acne
Easy peasy. But y'all a bunch of woman afraid of UVB light, but not afraid of vitamin A literally peeling your skin off?
You'll do anything but leave the house and go outside
>UVB reptile lamp from the pet store
Finally I can Gaddafimaxx
give me a source in europe lads
Local pharmacy for me (Greece). Is it not available over the counter in other countries?
Been using for a few months now btw and honestly my skin looks worse.
Bs the pharmacies in greece in my area only have isotretinoin in alcohol based gel
I'm getting a paper prescription from my general practitioner, then scan it and use it to order 50g Cordes Vas brand creme tubes from an online pharmacy in Germany. It's literally not available in my country unless mixed with antibiotics.
If you don't want to get a prescription there's a pharmacy in Andorra that sends Retirides brand tret to EU. I go prescription route because it ends up cheaper.
Really easy to find everything I'm talking about on Google.
>accelerates the skin aging cycle
no
>accelerates the skin cell turnover cycle
yes
Young people have faster cell turnover, old people don't
what are the downsides to taking it? other anons have said it dries out the skin, which can be mitigated through a moisturizer. is there anything else?
what dosage should someone who hasn't used it before use and how often?
im just starting to learn about skincare and any advice would be appreciated
read about tretinoin purging. not everyone call tolerate it either. generally whites handle it the best, hence why it's not used outside of the west
Used .05 tret for about 1 1/2 years via a prescription that I got from my derm. It faded my dark spots and it made my skin a bit clearer, before starting out I didn't have that much trouble with pimples anyways. On tret I still occasionaly had on or two pimples.
The one thing that made me stop using tretinoin was the shine. My skin got ridiculously shiny and while people from the skincare bubble might think that it looks great, I think it looks ridiculous, especially on men. I couldn't wear sunscreen because sunscreen in and of itself is shiny already. And sunscreen becomes imperative. But honestly I don't really notice that much of a difference after stopping tret.
Oh yeah, and the anecdotal evidence on tretinoin causing loss of facial volume via reduction of subcutaneous fat scared me off. I think there has even been an in vitro study on the effects of tretinoin on adipocytes which basically concluded that tretinoin reduces the volume and formation of new adipocytes, but don't quote me on that.
The main counterargument to that is that tretinoin isn't able to penetrate the skin deep enough to have any effect on fat cells, so an in vitro study shouldn't be meaningful anyways.
Would tret have saved him bros?
Oral tren is much better then optical tren and it will get on every inch of you're skin from the inside out
I prefer to inject my tren into my ass
i actually talked with a derm about this, and they said that in my case (main concern being volume loss around eyes) that tret may potentially worsen it, and the only real solution is fillers
What sort of filler would you consider?
Fat?
i guess, i havent explored options at all yet since im leery of those procedure. has to be my next step though, since peptides and moisture does frick all for my garbage looking eye area, and skin tone/texture is fine so tret etc wouldnt help
Prp is another natural alternative anon
>tretinoin causing loss of facial volume via reduction of subcutaneous fat scared me off.
Wtf? I've been using retinol to avoid nose lines, and you're telling me it's gonna make it worse?
I know for a fact that tret makes nasolabial folds worse
so does that mean that it would be a good idea to avoid using tret on the nasolabial fold area? i thought that tret tightens everything up, isn't the issue with nasolabial folds that it's saggy in that area as you age? how does it make it worse?
also, does anything else help to reduce nasolabial folds? i don't have eye wrinkles since i never smile but i do have some chud lines
How risky is it to use this with moisturiser around your eyes?
I use 0.1 tret directly on my lower eyelids, hoping to reduce dark circles, without any issues. my eyes were dryer than normal for a few days and that's it. it didn't help much with the circles, but completly removed the small lines I had directly under the eyelids instead, though
*lines I had directly under the eyelashes
careful with applying it so close to your eyes. Retinol can irritate the oil secreting glands that moisturize your eyes every time you blink which can lead to dry eye syndrome
Google "retinol meibomian gland"
Some people swear they've been using retinol around eyes for decades with no issues, so idk how bad it is but keep it in mind if you ever start getting eye irritation
why are zoomers obsessed with skincare? remember when we used to have hobbies and goals
Because there is little hope of a long term relationship in the west
>remember when we used to have hobbies and goals
Like what
The biggest milennial "hobby" is watching /playing shit and talking about what you watched/played afterwards.
womens standards are absurd. you have to be chad tier or you get nothing, so we try to maximize our looks
go outside. women only hold power on tinder. once you’re face to face with them, the revert back into submissive children at the will of any man who can actually talk to them and put them in their place. zoomers are just perpetually autistic shut ins scared of face to face talking
This reminds me of acutane. Lots of people were getting prescriptions for it in high school and I was interested becuase I had acne. But I never did try it. I am glad because now I know that it allegedly makes you later in life have barely any skin oil so you have terribly dry face skin. So I just imagine what these people who have such high time preference who are trying it will end up dealing with in around ten to twenty years.
I think high time preference really are just terribly annoying. They will hound you for not also using whatever they are because they think it improves some aspect of them whether it is steroids or acutane, and then later in life they whine about the ramifications as if they never knew this could happen even though you told them it could happen.
I'm 30 and I get told I look like a teen thanks to this shit. Been using it like three year now with zero issues. Just use sunscreen and have a good diet with lots of protein and collagen, this is all you need to look young
Post face
you can get like 1/4th of my face, I ain't posting my full face on here
no shit homie, anything with the potential to dry out your skin will make that worse
get some zinc bodywash or something, make sure you moisturize plenty, use the cocoa butter shit that blacks use or the moisturizing creams diabetics use, then maybe you can think about using tret
also seborrheic dermatitis is almost always due to diet issues or fungus, there's hope don't give up on yourself
you only use tret? what dosage and how often? lookin' good brother
only .05% tret, every night (you can do every other night if your skin can't take it, it all depends on you)
I try to moisturize an hour before applying it. I wash my face with lukewarm water before applying the tret, and I spread a pea sized amount all across my face
daily sunscreen is incredibly important, it probably helps with anti aging more than tret does, make sure you're reapplying sunscreen every 2 hours at least
🙂
>reapplying sunscreen every two hours
You can't be serious lmfao
yeah, I spend a lot of time outside. What's wrong with that?
that is the "official recommendation" from experts
they also recommend wearing it while you're inside (sun and glare still get in), wearing it when it's cloudy or winter (it only blocks 20% of the sun) and using about an ounce per application (a shot glass worth)
So on a regular winter day where you stay inside you should go through a bottle of sunscreen a day according to the experts
Not true.
>and using about an ounce per application (a shot glass worth)
what the hell? thats enough for a whole body tip to toe wtf you cant be serious
whatever. if you're getting frequent sun burns while on it, start applying sunscreen
twink kisses
post more of your face. I dont care how you look, who are you, i just wanna see your face. forehead, undereye, around the mouth. black out everything that makes you recognizable.
looks pretty good but pic is kinda sus, like you applied filter or phone camera acting up because of ligthing or whatever.
I have a feeling the reason my acne is bad is because of my sugar and alcohol intake and my skincare regimen is the only thing keeping me from going full crater face, chest, and back
Is this one of those threads where OP makes a completely incorrect statement so his thread gets more attention?
A face should not look like this to begin with, even at 70+.
Still not using sunscreen. Slop back then wasn't even formulated correctly to protect from UV light. Sunscream also causes inflammation and oxidizes the skin.
Routine: Ultra red light in the morning by watching the sunrise outside with skin exposed to the sun and grounded to the earth. Do this for at least 3 minutes for the ultra red light benefits. This protects and heals skin from UV and other oxidants.
Then get UV light and vitamin D mid day, spend 20 to 40 mins outside with skin exposed to sun, grounded.
Finally watch sunset for more ultra red light benefits, outside in the afternoon.
If your shadow is taller than you, you are getting more ultra red light, if your shadow is shorter than you, you are getting UV vitamin D.
It's OK to miss these steps, just catch up when possible.
Getting ultra red light is as important as UV.
I don't use any creams, but will consider peptide creams in future.
For face, I use colloidal copper mist spray some days, and beef tallow almost daily.
Should I use it on my neck and shoulders as well for even looks?
How do I get better skin? I already use tretinol and I wash and moisturise daily and use blackhead affiliating cream already but I still have massive pores and blackheads
have better genetics
Is eating jelly for extra collagen a meme? I'm not talking pigging out on it, but would a glass of jelly a day have an effect skin-wise? It's tasty too.
I fell for the moronic tret meme pushed here and it made my seborrheic dermatitis get even worse, I went from having bad skin to looking like a ghoul from fallout
I see it as God punishing me for my vanity
I have given up on looking good. My new identity is an ugly erudite hermit
i've used 0.04% every other day for the past two winters. never in summer. when my face feels dry i moisturize it. it's helped with acne and the scars i've been dealing with since my balls dropped