>can't stick to a routine
>can't do complex excercises because I'm paranoid I'm doing them wrong
>constantly stop and start pacing around the room in the middle of a set so I have to restart
anyone else?
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ADHD is not real, you just need a good smack upside the head
do you take meds for it?
>he tries a routine
>he doesn't just aimlessly show up to the gym to do various muscle group exercises per day
NGMI
>have ADHD
>childlike curiosity for everything
>limitless energy
>hyper focus for select things
>goofymaxxing
Only downside is the underachieving and trouble holding relationships but who cares. Do what this Black person said
fricking show up lift heavy and leave
ADHD is baloney 99% of the time. Your problem is you never learned the skill of taking action. What you need to do is break things down into steps, and take the immediate next step. Don't think three steps ahead, just one - that is all you need to do. When you are in the middle of a set, the immediate step is to lift the weight again.
>Can't do complex exercises
Ok, let's fix that. Break the exercise down into its constituent parts. Focus on each part individually. You will get there. Stop worrying about doing it wrong, and just work on doing it first. You will get better as you do it.
You can do this, Anon. But you have to work on it. It's ok to fail, but it isn't ok to give up
>>can't stick to a routine
don't worry about it. worry about going and trying to do something. it helped me to go to the gym every day, I have issues starting tasks and that hebit helped. yes it included going to the gym even though it was closed because I was late getting home.
>>can't do complex excercises because I'm paranoid I'm doing them wrong
keep it simple stupid
stop and start pacing around the room in the middle of a set so I have to restart
in the middle of a set... you really mean set right, like you put down the weight after 3/8 reps and just get distracted? that is non-bullshit ADHD if I've ever heard it, and I have no solution for that. best guess would be home gym and using the distractions as rest but if it is genuinely disrupting the set you need medication. even if it's distraction during a 2 minute rest (you set a timer right?) that is major disruption.
this last one is what makes me think not bullshit. hell, I'd argue it sounds like disassociative identity disorder or dementia(or other neurodeterioration) before being just not learning the skill of taking action.
if you are worried about me shillingmeds btw start with caffeine/Ltheanine/Ephedrine/synthesize-your-own
Stfu man that’s total nonsense it’s not like it stops you from completing very bas
Carrots are so weird they used to be way smaller too, not just that weird purple color.
most of the carrot family is inherently toxic to mammals and humans specifically, I have no fricking idea who decided to try and breed that piece of shit taproot into edibility
>sap blisters your skin
>super high in oxalates
>many species just straight up have toxins
>they don't even taste good
>Get told you're lazy
>Pretend this is immutable
>Turn to drugs to cope
Have ADHD but opposite effect. The ADHD makes me hyperfocus on fitness and I get obsessed with it. The problem is that it takes over my life.
Oh, and also forgetting to eat and not getting enough nutrition. That is 100000% the worst part of ADHD + fitness for me. I can never eat enough.
>Oh, and also forgetting to eat and not getting enough nutrition. That is 100000% the worst part of ADHD + fitness for me. I can never eat enough.
Set reminders on your phone to remind you to eat, then do it. Set up the evening before so you have easy options the next day for healthy food.
I've been on both ends of that shit. Either I get absolutely nothing done and my mind feels like it's boiling with wandering thoughts, or I apply myself on something with extreme focus, nearing obsession. I cannot take a middle ground
get a metronome, do your sets counting to the metronome. Do not listen to music. Yes it's unfair, you have a disability, you have to work harder to "meet average" until the average is socially shifted as all views one day are. Yes it fricking sucks, yes you still have to work harder to deal with it. Your other options are living facilities (if you cannot manage your disability on your own), or suicide if you don't wanna.
Forgot to mention: the paranoia is you being a b***h and only "curable" by either just cutting it the frick out or doing Cognitive Behavioural Therapy to train yourself like a dog. Write your routine on a list and checkbox it each time: write it on a computer and get it printed 1000x on reciept paper and now you have 3 years of workouts daily. Alarms alarms alarms will save you.
Can you guys explain to a non-Ameristani what ADHD is apart from a made-up reason to give kids meth
Every time I read about ADHD online it's a completely random symptom complex ranging from not wanting to do boring ass work to not being able to do laundry and dishes. OP is "paranoid" he's doing exercises wrong, that's apparently also a symptom of ADHD?
Generally it's a dopamine dysregulation - either the body doesn't produce dopamine properly, doesn't accept dopamine at receptors properly, or it flushes dopamine too quickly; this results in symptoms relating to the dopamine system, so motivation, spatial awareness, memory, attention, incentive etc. are all damaged/malfunctioning in the individual. Some studies suggest its largely genetic while some studies suggest environmental factors like SO2, NOx, and lead exposure in children can exacerbate/cause it, but nothing is fully definitive right now. The giving kids meth is a slight misnomer, as lower potency lower abuse risk amphetamine analogues are most common nowadays, but the reason for such a medication at all is either to supplement dopamine in a person with malfunctioning production or therapeutically train the brain to accept dopamine properly with low doses, often slow release.
Thanks for an actual answer, so it's mainly about dopamine.
>The giving kids meth is a slight misnomer
I only say it because giving kids any kind of speed is low key insane and akin to pic related.
>but nothing is fully definitive right now
Are we absolutely sure medicating this type of a condition is really necessary? Shouldn't we try telling a patient to man up and stop being a b***h first?
Pharma companies are making a lot of money doing this. They have a temporary reprieve from the ire of both sides of the political aisle because of how good the propaganda was during Covid - but the left will eventually turn on the pharma companies again. For now, they will take full advantage of "trust us completely or elese you are a smelly drumpf supporter" advertising and sell lots of prescription meds for everything under the sun
Simply mind-boggling.
Or they can realize it's not for them, find a position in life that doesn't require daily productivity periods of 4+ hours (esp in front of a computer), instead of trying to fit in and participate in the rat race while not being a rat. The assumption that everyone should have the same level of involvement in the spreadsheet economy is wrong.
>Or the neurons has too low endurance, meaning that when it starts to get good and you start to focus deeply... the brain instead tries to switch task because the neurons for the task is nearly burnt out chemically
All of this doesn't sound too scientific. We still have a very rough concept of the way brain works.
>find a position in life that doesn't require daily productivity periods of 4+ hours (esp in front of a computer)
those positions are becoming less and less viable to live by, even normies have said so. Trust me I'd love for there to be ways for everyone to integrate into life easily, I've got a different breed of moronic myself.
Nah there's still plenty of options, it's just that old ones fade out as new ones fade in. For example you can't be a lighthouse keeper anymore but you can farm instagram ad money etc.
>easily
Now that's another question.
>Now that's another question.
fair point, I spent a year working a couple different israelitelerymaking skills and selling my products, never quite made rent with it but definitely enough for groceries in a month. I'm sure there's other kinds of similar self employment that could bounce between tasks so easily.
Sounds based, this kind of precise and mechanical work must be really satisfying.
As for me, I simply cruise between wfh jobs which require minimal involvement, have a ton of free time and equally enjoy doing frick all, or lifting, learning a language, or spending time with gf, like a king of NEETs.
T b h I hated working in the office enough to do everything in my power to keep my jobs wfh. I've heard some people say my way of life if boring and one should constantly achieve stuff at work to feel valued etc, but I honestly feel great not thinking about work most of the time and getting all the life satisfaction from the other things.
You're probably concentrating on the wrong things. Once you're convinced the thing you're trying to focus on is something you really want concentration is a non-issue.
I'm not a real therapist tho so this is not a financial advice
>Are we absolutely sure medicating this type of a condition is really necessary? Shouldn't we try telling a patient to man up and stop being a b***h first?
A lot of people tried that for a whole host of problems through the 1900s, it doesn't work in a profit driven society since they just make everybody's work worse. Either society would need to be massively restructured, they need to be treated, or they need to be killed (and killing them doesn't work since it's not entirely genetic they'll keep coming back).
> Shouldn't we try telling a patient to man up and stop being a b***h first?
If you can explain to me how the frick manning up is going to fix concentration and memory, I’ll agree.
The meds don't hit them like they do a "normal" person. Without meds they're bouncing off the walls, can't stop won't stop can't make me frick you, I'm fricking WIRED b***h gimme some CARBS! Give them a low dose of meth (that makes me all antsy and kinda... vibrate?) and they ease up, start paying attention, are able to control urges, they become "normal." And no, it doesn't matter how much you talk, spank, withhold, discipline, logic or anything else you can think of to/with them. I was a disbeliever until my kid showed up with it. The third of four. All the rest are "normal," I have some experience in this.
>either the body doesn't produce dopamine properly, doesn't accept dopamine at receptors properly, or it flushes dopamine too quickly;
Or the neurons has too low endurance, meaning that when it starts to get good and you start to focus deeply... the brain instead tries to switch task because the neurons for the task is nearly burnt out chemically
ADD, ADHD and malnutrition and sleep apnea has severe overlap and is several different things.
And its complicated by society not tolerating kids being kids, since ADHD is several normal human tendencies in a extreme.
Quite a few bodybuilders have adhd and theyre huge
You need to make getting muscles your hyperfocus
adhd is not real
I get the feeling ADHD is the new meme disease like Aspergers/Autism was several years ago. Like in this thread alone I get people claimng ADHD with totally opposite symptoms. This is logically moronic and no way true.
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autism was a meme for being socially awkward and adhd is a meme for being lazy.
>he doesn’t hyperfocus on his lifts and get stimulation via adding weight to his lifts and crushing goals.
Ngmi
Ever wonder how we got all these mental illnesses (autism, adhd) that specifically are bad with information processing when we got in so called "information era" of internet?
Its because anything not working for betterment of the system is a mental illness. Homosexuals were considered mentally ill in 1950s and were put in mental institutions and sedated, now we let them roam the streets.
OP, adhd doesnt exist. You don't have it.
Btw I was diagnosed with autism, paranoid schizophrenia and antisocial personality disorder (aka sociopathy/psychopathy) just cuz I can remember stuff, am increasingly paranoid about authority and am frickig angry at the world.
Most psychologists are idiots. OP dont listen to them.
Ever noticed that dyslexia wasn't a problem until the printing press?
I agree, when scripting allowed greater difference between letters they were much easier to differentiate. Then rolls along pressy boy and everyone has to "save money" with as few pieces as possible and as few production steps and now letters are too similar again! Thank god for computers which can display fonts that don't cause the problem as badly, similarly to handwriting.
Exactly. Mental illness is created as a need to mold us towards what we as society consider as good, not what evolutionarily came out as result of our existence.
ADHD is usually considered the "warrior genetics" because high correlation with hyperextension of the joints. Most ADHD people have high IQ due to their warrior genetics. The "domesticated human" that can do everything we ask him to do is a woke feminist balding homosexual that watches marvel movies and buys funko pops. He will be least likely to breed.
>Its because anything not working for betterment of the system is a mental illness
Uh, no shit. That’s literally the definition of morality. Any action that harms the species/society is immoral
Wrong. We can delve in metaphysical arguments for existence of objective truth is morality, aka God but that would stray further from the topic at hand.
I would just like to note that you sucking on dick of what species considers moral is biggest robot and golem thing to do. Please, grow a pair and say "no" to what society wants you to do.
By your argument you didn't rebel against covid waxx, did you get your boosters homosexual?
Yea the schizo is definitely obvious. No I didn’t get the vax and I’m a Muslim that believes in God. That doesn’t change what morality is at its simplest level. Arguing against it with some sperg rant that means nothing just makes you look stupid. You can’t name a single universal moral that goes against what I said and isn’t it interesting how every society on earth came up with the same set of morals? You can claim it is because of God or because of common sense or a bit of both
>You can’t name a single universal moral that goes against what I said and isn’t it interesting how every society on earth came up with the same set of morals?
They didn't. If you knew laws of countries across the world you would see this as pattently false. Some countries legalize drugs some don't. Some countries have lax laws around self defense some you can't even defend yourself. Some countries you can marry a child or a cousin. Some countries you can own a gun, some you can't. Some countries allow children to go trans on their own decision without allowing parents to have a say.
You obviously don't believe in God as you would rather follow the morals of man than that of God.
Your insults mean nothing, you are a product of society you live in, that is bigger insult than whatever namecalling you do. You are literally a sheep, domesticated and docile.
>Btw I was diagnosed with autism, paranoid schizophrenia and antisocial personality disorder (aka sociopathy/psychopathy) just cuz I can remember stuff, am increasingly paranoid about authority and am frickig angry at the world.
you didn't need to tell us we could all already tell :^)
Frick the OP and frick the mental health shit this is now an Apiaceae thread now
Also ADHD here. Not super gym experienced but I’ve found the best stuff to help this is:
a) cardio. even if you’re really just looking to gain, find something you like/can tolerate doing for 20 minutes and do it. it is very well established that cardio helps ADHD hyperactivity. you will be way less likely to pace around and get antsy if you do this at the start of your workout.
b) just find simple exercises that you like and that are relatively idiot-proof form wise. complicated routines are not your friend, at least for the moment.
lower body is easy: just do squats, they’re hard to frick up. using a kettle bell/medicine ball might be better than a dumbbell to start off because there’s way less to think about form-wise.
most upper body machines are pretty self-explanatory.
If you’re really struggling, rowing is a great way to combine all cardio and a mild full-body workout. it’s worth a try too