I've been without my ADHD meds for my mild to moderate ADHD for a few months now cause of the shortage.
Are there any proven ways to help with the symptoms with over the counter stuff?
I've found that sipping on a monster energy drink all morning from like 9am to 1pm helps with fatigue and focus. No where near as much as meds, but it does help more than like a cup of coffee. But I can't imagine that's good for me. Plus it'd get expensive.
I've read about B complex, mineral complex, yerba mate, but not sure what to get or if that stuff would help.
Any tips?
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What even is ADHD?
Who is this ADHD?
It's ADolf HiDler
It's what anglo psychiatry calls a sum of symptoms, disregarding how or when they appear i.e. aetiology. Then they tell you you have "this" and give you pills for "this"
Hmm, that wasn’t at all my experience with my psychiatrist. Books on habit-building and that explain what ADHD is and how it works like ‘The Adult ADHD Toolkit’ were what he recommended I look into first way before taking any temporary medication.
Are you sure he's not a 'therapist'?
therapists can’t prescribe stimulants in my country, only a psychiatrist can
Which is why I asked since he seems averse to prescribing anything
What's your review of The Adult ADHD Toolkit? Worth reading? I haven't thought about diving into any adult ADHD books but maybe that could be helpful.
I purchased Atomic Habits like 2 years ago and still haven't opened it. I guess the catch-22 is building the habit of reading the book about building habits.
The reviews are insane.
Dude needs more than a book.
>unemployed and suicidal
>read book about adhd
>still unemployed and suicidal
>1 star
yes, ADHD is a diagnosis you get if you fit a number of symptoms. If you think "ADHD" is real or not doesn't matter, because the symptoms are real, and we're treating the symptoms. If we could cure ADHD we'd do that instead.
neurodevelopmental disorder, the prefontal cortex region in their brain fail to reach maturity needed to be fuctional normally, its the last region to be developed and keep developing from pregnancy until 30y.o.
if after 30 the symptoms of adhd still persist, then it over
>ADHD
Anti-Defamation HolDout
A copout excuse for people with tiktok brain and no willpower.
It's a lame excuse for everything but most of all justifying amphetamine use
animal retrovirus in vaccines cause an inflammation response that does mild but permanent brain damage as with autism. Anti-vax just means you know about the polio vaccine + SIV to HIV process, and know about what they did to Judy Miskovits when she discovered XMRV in vaccines. No amount of screen time can ever cause adhd, its there from infancy. Just because shitheads fake it to get speed, doesnt mean there arent people suffering. Its like being possessed.
also dont reply to me unless you have ever heard of an elderly or middle aged person with autism. There arent any, so what changed in the environment? The vaccine schedule changed in the late 80s.
>He was a shy man who was uncomfortable in society and avoided it when he could. He could speak to only one person at a time, and only if the person were known to him and male.[33] He conversed little, always dressed in an old-fashioned suit, and developed no known deep personal attachments outside his family. Cavendish was taciturn and solitary and regarded by many as eccentric. He communicated with his female servants only by notes. By one account, Cavendish had a back staircase added to his house to avoid encountering his housekeeper, because he was especially shy of women. The contemporary accounts of his personality have led some modern commentators, such as Oliver Sacks, to speculate that he was autistic.[34]
The first man to be officially diagnosed with Autism died at like 80 a while ago
It works though, so even if it's a meme, (which it isn't) it's a meme that's helping people
>they didn’t call it autism therefore autism didn’t exist
do you think no one died of cancer before they started calling it cancer?
>be me
>diagnosed with ADHD since like 10
>be shit at school
>get put on meds
>suddenly superwizz
>never study but do great
>spend time reading, learn instruments and langauges while also being class president
>NHS cut off meds when 18 because "lol frick you"
>can barely do anything
>repeat first year of university 4 times
>no hobbies except gaming and browsing IST
>life and future literally crumbles to pieces
I'm nearly 23 and my life is a never ending nightmare of failure. Unironically planning on an heroing
Start microdosing meth
this is actually great advice. buy a few ounces and you'll be set for a few years. absolutely no need to go above 20mg per day. use a scale with milligram precision and take it orally
diffent poster, i tried microdosing meth. It read to macrodosing real quick and then a serious meth problem. Thankfully I'm clean off that for a long time now.
excellent advice for a demographic frequently having issues with self-control
may also result in
>NHS cut off meds when 18 because "lol frick you"
They probably didn't explain it but you might need to see a psychiatrist again to get a diagnosis.
18 just seems like a very specific age, maybe adult diagnosis is seperate.
Yeah I know, they're meant to send letters to have you meet them but the NHS is run by monkeys so obviously I never got letters so I couldn't have known I had an appointment. I've had my doctor send a referral to them multiple times for years and they never got back to them. It's a fricking joke
Move out of your shithole, obviously. Or go private at least.
> Are there any proven ways to help with the symptoms with over the counter stuff?
No and I'll tell you even more, for some people like me even meds don't fricking seem to do jack fricking shit. Where the frick do you people live?
28 here. it never gets better.
literely me except i was quiet so never got diagnosed, currently on the failing uni 4 years in a row part
I recently and they sent me a 20 page form to fill with paragraphs on each question, also my previous teachers to ask if i showed any signs... do these morons realise that I wont ever get to doing them? fricking pisses me off.
The way people describe medication is honestly unbelieveable i wish i could just buy it from the counter instead of all this hastle because im too lazy to go through the years long process. sorry
>repeat first year of university 4 times
lol they would have kicked you out by now, gtfo larping homosexual
I redid university 3 times. Even promised to pay with cash the third time. They agreed and I dropped out again and they referred my debt to a debt collector. Im not paying it. The uni was shit anyway they should be happy I gave them so much money for no degree
don't worry my fella I'm like 30, been on all of them on and off, read up on current ADHD stuff some of the symptoms that inhibit you from being a genius legit get fixed by the meds, and MOST important are caused by your feels, ADHD has a very big factor.
>you need emotional work.
>you need private doctor/drug dealer for Vyvanse or other current meds
>you use them only to cope, when you need the machine
>get hobbies, you can be hyperfocused
>at least one physical because the H is for hyperactive
>gotta feed your ego sometimes
>enjoy it's fun to just BE when you don't HAVE to focus
>MOST important are caused by your feels
amen
if you're so smart why aren't you able to get the meds you need lmao fricking DUMBASS
Suck my wiener homies
>23 years
>Its so over
Do a flip homosexual
>No verification needed
Buy drugs online. Get modafinil. Find an alternative. Maybe try Strattera if you can find it. Or look into nootropics, such as phenylpiracetam, kava, kratom, uridine, or sulbutiamine
strattera sucks ass, you've clearly never used it. It's like the SSRI of adhd medicine and does almost nothing.
Only the amphetamine stimulants work (ritalin, concerta, etc), I've never tried modafinil so I cannot comment on that.
Proper sleep, sugar, caffeine and exercise will also help
>Only the amphetamine stimulants work (ritalin, concerta, etc)
Neither ritalin nor concerta are amphetamines you spastic
I was an adhd gay all my life but right now I study 4.5h a day split into 3-4 sessions like it's nothing and plan on pushing it further.
Stop all caffeine, it will be literal hell for a week (I was on 2 white sips a day + 3-4 cups of coffee)
Long walks with no headphones every day
Gym+cardio ideally every day
Fruits, meat and some veggies
You can try modafinil (order modalert 200mg) but it has a really long half-life that will rape your sleep. It's to be used during emergencies and really important events. Anything more and you will have many 0 days due to fricked sleep.
Also quit jobs/people that you hate and do things that you can hyper-focus on (no t vidya, drugs..)
Something that will yield money in the long run.
This is the hardest and the most important part. Some symptoms are never going away, just learn to live with it.
You probably just didn't have ADHD to begin with
Yeah, sounds like oppositional defiant where they just needed him to set down and shut up. I was put on ritalin as an adult and it helped immensely with work and studies. I had other underlying problems and was also stupid so I eventually sabotaged myself anyway and then stopped taking the ritalin. The doctor who gave me it retired and no other doctor wants to out me back on. One has me on near permanent phentermine which is helping with cutting weight for sure but is not helping with my real issue. I can’t focus on what needs to be done and my drive is in the fricking toilet.
Because of that shitty half life, start with 50-100 mg of modafinil in the morning and don't increase the dose until at least 5 days later.
>Stop all caffeine, it will be literal hell for a week (I was on 2 white sips a day + 3-4 cups of coffee)
>Long walks with no headphones every day
>Gym+cardio ideally every day
>Fruits, meat and some veggies
Seems like a generic cure to every fricking thing tbh.
>Long walks with no headphones every day
Would do nothing since I'll just be daydreaming instead of at least getting useful info in.
> Gym+cardio ideally every day
I do think it helps a bunch, but ultimately doesn't fix anything per se.
> Some symptoms are never going away, just learn to live with it.
Yes they are if proper medicated.
Overall, I rate this advice as REDDIT/10.
Would be more complete if you added JUST BE URSELF BRA and just do it HAHA xDD
Not him, but bad habits beget bad habits, and good habits beget good habits. I’m not gonna say to you ‘just do it’ because I too am an ADHD subhuman and know that it doesn’t work that way. All I can say is that you may get to a point where your only hope is simply waking up one morning and your brain chemistry is somehow slightly different enough to where your actions finally match what you want to do. I’m still waiting for mine to switch.
you can rewire your brain to do this. but you need to put in the work to inspire growth and change in the brain. see
it is not over. the brain is adaptable. you can change it, bend it to your will.
What do I do if my brain wants to be back to moron mode again, I always back up as soon as I make progress yet my brain still taunts me to be back to my old self
Meditation, specifically mindfulness sustained over a long period, is what will let you escape this trapped state of zero motivation you describe. It will be very difficult at the start, but the improvement is exponential. It will teach you how your mind works, so that at least initially, you can act in spite of your impaired motivation. Without it, it's like you're stumbling in the dark, so it's no surprise why you keep failing. You need to recognize that the feelings that underlie your urges to become distracted, like boredom and restless, actually disappear by themselves, or they at least wane in intensity between moments. Over time you'll undo ingrained habits like immediately picking up your phone when boredom arises. You'll be able to stay with those feelings, without resorting to external stimulation, long enough for them to disappear on their own.
This is coming from someone with severe adhd who escaped from this exact cycle you describe. I was lucky enough to be born with a heart condition as well, so I had to find a solution other than meds.
A better act than meditation is to study the Bible. Obtaining the righteousness of God will drive you to do positive things and force you out of the state of despair modern society has put you in.
If you can convince yourself to do that, sure. Deep prayer can be a form of meditation as well.
I know I can rewrite my brain, it isn’t a matter of ignorance. I know I can take baby steps but it’s not having the will or motivation to actually start and maintain taking baby steps. I’ve had times where I lied in bed for 2 hours where I somehow couldn’t actually get up from bed. It wasn’t laziness, it was like there was an actual disconnection in my brain between what I wanted to do and what my body would do.
>bend it to your will
you need will to begin with to do this. it’s like needing experience to get a job but needing a job to get the experience in the first place but for motivation and doing things. doing things gives motivation, but I need motivation to begin with.
you’ve contributed nothing to this thread
>Would do nothing since I'll just be daydreaming instead of at least getting useful info in.
data suggests that constant audio stimulation prevents learning. you can listen to informative pod casts all day, but without downtime, your brain learns almost nothing. you need quiet time to reflect and process new information and keeping airpods in your ears all day prevents this
not a problem, since I dream for 90% of listening to anything anyway
>I'll just be daydreaming
That's the point...
>since I'll just be daydreaming
That's the fricking point but your right. You should just give up and die I guess
>generic advice everybody on the planet should be doing anyway, and will in no way fix a genuine health issue.
Bravo anon.
you're a fricking moron
get a job and come back you fricking homosexual
get any responsibility at all and come back with your stupid homosexual answers
U never had adhd u idiot
quit porn right now
Anecdotal experience obviously but I’ve got the adhd and can’t take the actual good medications because my history with addiction just makes it not worth the risk. Wellbutrin 300mg XL and lots of running. Lifting is cool too but cardio helps me a lot with mood/emotional regulation.
my ADHD is so bad that 3 months on Ritalin made no difference. I’m at the point of needing a caretaker to enforce habit changes on me
>I’m at the point of needing a caretaker to enforce habit changes on me
same but I'm hiding it well enough (and had enough of a buffer that I wasted for years) so that nothing changes. for the next while, at least
I stopped taking Adderall because I felt I was too dependent on it after like a year. It really does help maintain energy levels and keep you alert (also wakes you tf up like instantly)
I've noticed that I also experienced a cognitive crash too, not as attentive as I used to be even pre-adderall. I'm not as "on top of it" as I used to be. It's great as long as you keep taking it but if you stop then you're fricked. You'll experience a few days to a week of extreme fatigue and sleepiness, the brain fog lasts a bit longer. I'm about 3-6 months out and feel fine now, although not as sharp. I also started a desk job and haven't been to the gym in a while as well so that definitely has something to do with it. Energy levels are overall lower but you gotta lead a healthy lifestyle and keep your brain in shape with reading and absorption of knowledge or your brain's gonna get lazy.
I'm thinking about starting up again but I'm not sure yet. I don't want to be dependent of a frickin pill. Not good in the long-run for sure. I recommend plenty of sleep and a strict schedule. It mostly just prioritizes your brain for blood flow anyway.
I will say smoking weed on adderall was nice because I felt mellowed out without my brain getting sluggish, but have since stopped both round the same point in time actually.
anyone here also with ADHD who feels like they have no self control to such an extent that it feels like they’re on autopilot? or that they’re a consciousness trapped inside a body that is engaging in bad habits against their will? I’ve told myself to quit porn, caffeine, bad food, etc., every single day for the last 6 years with absolute nothing changing. it doesn’t even feel like I’m making a conscious choice to eat junk food, but rather I’m forced to forget I’m supposed to not eat it and then I remember to not eat it immediately after the last bite and then I’m completely regretful and hate myself.
executive dysfunction, homie. you’re probably autistic
I am. I actually went in for an autism diagnosis and that’s how I realised I had ADHD too.
Literally me wtf
Start brewing good coffee and drink that all day instead. Also exercise is supposed to help, mainly cardio but also anaerobic exercise
If all else fails, beg a doctor to give you desoxyn because it unironically works better and has fewer side effects than regular amphetamines/methylphenidate
If that fails, you end up like me and become a neet loser who can't study or maintain a job because doctors are dyel cuck losers who don't want to give you the meds you need
How come all guys who claim to have adhd almost aleays are highly addicted to porn hmmm
ADHD makes it harder to engage in self control and delayed gratification. In these times, having those two symptoms and no porn addiction is getting rarer.
I think ADHD men are inherent risk takers and fast life strategists.
thats why having ADHD can make you a good entrepreneur. You are like a gambling addict in real life. you live for the buzz and live for novelty. Making money and thinking about strategies to propel forward into new territory comes naturally to people with adhd. Youre also fine taking huge risks which for normies is too scary.
Because ADHD makes you more susceptible to addiction than the average person, and porn is free and easy to access
What helped me in a similar situation(not nearly as much and as consistently as meds):
endurance running more often than not
strict sleep hygiene (timers and 'parental' controls on devices)
strict morning routine/structure (meal and caffeinated beverage prepared, bright light)
sipping on sugary and caffeinated drinks throughout the day
supps:
Omega 3s, at above recommended amounts
Tyrosine (for a short time), mix into coffee or tea
If you are fine with RCs:
Idra-21 (unknown risk and side effects)
Phenylpiracetame (relatively safe, related to Alzheimer's and epilepsy meds)
I am always impressed by people who use parental controls on themselves for anything. If I have the know how I’m just unlocking it again. As a kid I tried getting my softcore porn addiction under control by destroying my tv remote and the menu button on my little crt-tv. We didn’t sub to cinemax but the scramble never worked, it was just snowy instead of actually scrambled. And TLC often played joys of sex that went into deep biological detail like using infrared scanning on a woman’s body reaching orgasm showing how blood flow erected nipples and how the face flushed. No matter what I did, I would always find a work around. Take the tv away? I’d risk getting caught in the living room. I didn’t even start jerking off till high school even though the hook of seeing naked women hit in 5th grade. Now? Shit no fricking point, and accepting I am going to do it also means I’m not hyper focused on it so I accidentally “no fap” off and on.
Yeah, totally get that. But they give you additional chances to consciously intervene and change your activity, more dicerolls for willpower, laziness, motivation, discipline or whatever you want to call it
>TLC often played joys of sex that went into deep biological detail like using infrared scanning on a woman’s body reaching orgasm showing how blood flow erected nipples and how the face flushed
women always being gainz goblins, even via woman television
amphetamines turned me into an irritable jerk and started causing my hair to fall out. what else can i do besides kill myself?
Just be an butthole, most people have it coming.
It's called growing older you frick
>24
>growing older
funny how i stopped taking them and my hair returned to normal and i stopped being a pissy autist at everything
You have to choices OP
>get medication that will kill your sex drive so you won't be a brain fried coomer anymore
>stop watching porn
If you're a pussy go for 1, if you're a man go for 2
You want TIPS
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Doctors have not worked out yet whether ADHD is caused by sleep problems or if sleep problems cause ADHD.
Sleep fully for 8-9 hours per night and your ADHD symptoms will be greatly reduced possibly to the point of disappearing.
The quick, simple, medium term way to guarantee this is to take melatonin an hour before you sleep - 3mg is all you need.
It is the hormone your body uses to feel tired. Yes - when you feel tired that is MELATONIN. Luckily for us with ADHD melatonin grows inside TOMATOS and can be extracted and put in pills or liquid suspensions.
You want some real advice - take melatonin. Proper full sleep is twice as good as stimulant meds and many times greater than caffeine. Melatonin can be bought over the counter. Your GP also hands these out like sweeties so you can go there if you want.
It should be a first line treatment for ADHD but isn't because the long long term effects (>10 years) are not known.
>supplement with wojak and pepe on it
Might as well just start shooting sewer water into my brain if I want to poison myself that badly
tell me your sleep is good
I've had insomnia almost all my conscious life. My sleep has never once been "good"
Melatonin is the answer
Fix the sleep, fix the ADHD
it is no mistake that the symptoms of sleep deprivation are the same as ADHD
Melatonin is dogshit
This. You need name-brand Clorox and a hyperdermic needle if you want the autism to really go away.
I will enjoy deep sleep tonight. You will spend tonight restless and you will awake painfully tomorrow. I will awake with ease, refreshed and ready to take on the day.
Keep being miserable it's what you deserve. You were cursed from the day you were born, it's a curse inherited from your parents which they got from their parents. It's not going away
This. You're all a bunch of drug addicts. It's the stimulants and the caffeine causing chronic sleep deprivation. Then you are tired during the day, so you take more meth and suddenly it "fixes" your brain... Until you crash 24 hours later with even less sleep. Every ADHDgay is a secret meth / coke head. Or they suck on their ciggies and vape juice and wash it down with Red Bull and coffee. Just drink a fricking beer for frick's sake.
Also this, but with alcohol. Alcohol chads stay winning. Gang gang.
in the last 5 years, i can count the number of times ive slept 8 uninterrupted hours on 1 hand
I started this last week and my life has changed. I've finally got focused again and suddenly have the drive to do work
this guy is right about sleep, but dont fall for his obvious israeli marketing scam, melatonin is hormone, if you take it, you atrophy your pinneal gland just like you atrophy your balls if you roid, you dont wanna became a melatonin troony
All bow to the genius poster here....
It is well accepted that people with ADHD have a delayed circadian rhythm meaning they naturally sleep from 2 am to 12pm.
Lets imagine for a second that society has normal waking hours and those normal waking hours happen to be 7am to 10pm. Without sleep medications HOW do you suggest people with ADHD properly align their sleep schedules with normality in order to enjoy luxuries such as ** having a job **
personally I use cannabis to assist in getting to sleep, not a "weed lmao" shithead getting stoned all day, I take a small amount in a herb vaporizer around 23:30 each night then get into bed shortly after
all it does is help me relax and drift off into sleep, sleep quality is probably worse than a normalgays sleep, but it's better than having a completely chaotic sleep cycle trying to work a 10-6 job
anyone with history of clinical depression should avoid this shit
what's the scoop?
for depressed people, it would worsen mood and emotional state, after wake up the drowziness and feeling low would persist throught the day
and if they take depression medicine like ssri or maoi type, melatonin also interfere with those making it less effective
for non depressed people melatonin is good tho
text reads:
melatonin from dr trickster
not approved for consumption unless in the presence of a toad infused with baby vomit not suitable for children under 0 years of age
Melatonin does frick all to me; it's weird, I was prescribed melatonin (for insomnia) at 13 and the psychologist b***h hyped it up telling me not to share it with the other kids and that it has to be made at the actual pharmacy but despite not getting me high, it put me to bed within 30mins guaranteed and it was a liquid. I recently bought 10mg melatonin pills and all they did was make my sleep WORSE. I think that insomnia is a by product of loneliness and traumatic experiences.
They don't work if you drink caffeine / take meth.
ADHD is basically just autism, nothing in this thread will help.
Wrong
They are very distinctly different disorders.
Once makes you a social moron because you have brain damage, the other is an executive function defect which causes you to bounce between tasks constantly making you intolerable in many situations leading to social problems.
There is no treatment for autism, there is for ADHD but the symptoms can present similarly.
It's literally the same cause. Nothing will help.
>Another charlatan claiming to have "cured" a disease while showing every symptom of it
Oh no, time for your dose of Adderall KEK
They are minor variations of neurodivergence.
Go to the pharmacy and ask for bronkaid. Take 1 pill in the AM with a cup of coffee. Its the closest you'll get to actual ADHD meds.
Only thing I've found worked it 1) try to work on "not thinking", and 2) constant caffeine--at least 150 mg like 3-4 times per day spaced out.
You c**ts that believe in this shit actually plan on taking stimmies your whole life? Spose you all got your jabs too. Pharma cucks
LOLLL
those taking medication for the rest of their lives for ADHD are in the minority. Medication is mostly temporary to make the CBT process easier.
>NPC image
>uses the word ‘cuck’
Lol
>calling other people morons while posting a screenshot of an image from an iphone
>believe in this shit
basic normie take, and youre posting NPCs? So you think vaccines are bad, which is true. Why wouldnt they also cause permanent brain damage (adhd,autism) when your given them as an infant and have no resistance or tolerance to toxic adjuvants and monkey kidney retroviruses?
>Thread claims to have the cure to ADHD and autism
Dis gon b gud. Yall finna be injecting yourselves with draincleaner? LOL
My fellow Americans, it is time for you to drink bleach to cure your autism, ADHD and OCD today.
ADHD is my superpower. Learn to control it and then take off with it. WAGMI.
Notice how even autists cope with this line of reasoning in
>n-no i'm not crippled by my fricked up brain, it's my strength!
It's the first step of the stages of death: Denial
>Yes, your diagnosis is actually a good thing. That'll be $20 copay plus tip.
>losing your phone 20 times a day is a superpower
huh?
I did a 72 hour fast recently, i didn't do it with ADHD in mind more, I was more interested in autophagy, at the end of the second day though my focus was incredible. I stopped wasting my time on IST and started making plans for the future and executing them. crazy stuff.
unless you plan on fasting the rest of your life without breaks, you're gonna have to break out the lisdexamphetamine
too much fasting is worse than none, you raise your risk for intestinal cancer and ALS, gallbladder problems. The last hunter gatherers on earth never fast or do omad and they never get western disease. Probably dont get adhd unless they were vaccinated as infants by smiling demons in white coats.
Sleep well and live a high energy life.
For me it's like I'm constantly "chasing the dragon" and end up shit posting for ungodly amounts of hours when I'm unstimulated (bored) by my day.
It's like a condition where as soon as you start living an unstimulating life you enter a nigh inescapable malaise. You can't fool your brain into taking everyday responsibilities seriously because there's no excitement.
Step 0 is getting religious about your sleep habits. Caffeine is the devil if you use it to self-medicate. It'll dehydrate you and make you urinate away many micronutrients, making the fatigue worse.
Caffeine doesn't actually do anything for us, at least compared to the effect it has on neurotypicals.
caffeine gives me euphoria in a life where nothing makes me happy
Can't relate. Caffeine gives me as much "energy" as hot chocolate.
When I was a kid I'd only have coffee on international flights and it'd knock me out.
If I drink over 600mg during a shift my hands start to shake mildly but I still feel tired.
> It's like a condition where as soon as you start living an unstimulating life you enter a nigh inescapable malaise.
Ah... shit.
>Caffeine doesn't actually do anything for us, at least compared to the effect it has on neurotypicals.
I struggle with a lot of the same shit as ADHD people do, but caffeine has weird effects on me
>sometimes get sleepy af
>other times are the only times I feel "alive"
>other times allows me to just do shit, instead of overthink and inhibit myself, which can be good or bad
>chronic pains getting triggered, anxiety and other shit do happen sometimes
tea is better, its has teanine and other compounds that help with focus
Use strong emotions to help you do boring things. Get really angry or trick yourself into genuinely believing you will die if you don't do this thing.
Has anyone ever met a girl with adhd? That was attractive?
I knew one in school who was kinda cute. She was the only other person I knew who had ADHD. Maybe me realise how annoying and unlikeable I was. And she was a cute girl, what chance do I have?
Damn you should have married her
my ex gf. but she was a prostitute with a 70+ body count by the time she turned 21.
Damn. Was she nice though?
for the first 6 months or so but it was probably just the honey moon phase. sex wasnt even that good either. id frick her ass and cum inside her but i was doing 95% of the effort every time during sex and it got kind of annoying, especially when she wouldnt even blow me that often
I'm trying to find an adhd bimbo
unironically keto will cure you of adhd, try it
What brings you to that conclusion?
>keto cures adhd
only because you cant stop weeping over high cortisol induced hair loss that you forget about adhd. Or you are like 30 percent of whites and have apoe4 which destroys your ability to process fat and you just die like a moron over youtube meme diets.
1000mg vitamin c
ADHD my whole life, got put on various meds as a teenager, went off them from 18-28 then back on for a while, here's all the other shit that helped overall:
>supplements
Zinc, Vit D, Iron, Magnesium, Fish Oil, melatonin in the evenings
>diet
no sugar, no carbs till late afternoon, often skip breakfast, also got celiacs so no gluten, lots of meat, lots of fish, lots of eggs, some dairy
>drugs
caffeine in the mornings, alcohol in the evenings sometimes, absolutely nothing else (especially no weed)
>weird shit that helps
L-Citrulin and aspirin seem to help, staying off IST for 90% of time helps, quitting porn and video games helped a ton
It's still touch and go but with this combo I found a decent internal drive, motivation and organisational skills on par with when I was heavily medicated (but without the annoying side effects). Decent sex drive, decent productivity, clear thinking.
i got a prescription for meds recently and they make me feel energetic as frick but didn't do anything for decision paralysis, still can't do shit 🙁
I've been taking a lot of iodine (lugols, like 20mg+) daily and I feel I have no ADHD anymore, I do have the pills but I don't even take them anymore
I got on vyvance and tweaked for 8 months. do I have adhd
Read The Boy Crisis by Warren Pharrel, there is an ADHD chapter read that
vyvanse makes me constipated and stomach feels like its burning the shit gets hot and smelly wat do
i cant go out like this
>got socially acceptable drugs (bean israelite)
>finally sufficiently energized and uninhibited to actually do something
>IST/fit
>ctrl+f adhd
danke, op
Yeah cbt. With training you can simply develop your attention and focus well enough you no longer meet the diagnostic criteria. This is why most adults age out of an ADHD diagnosis.
With the rise of constant tiktoks and constantly being spammed with noise and video at every moment that might be reduced, but try putting your phone in a drawer somewhere and spend an hour with a book. You don't have to read any particular amount, your goal though is just to spend 20 minutes reading it uninterrupted.
I think adhd has been the cause of my rampant cheating. It has destroyed some good relationships but damn it’s hard to fight the urge. Help bros. I’m not on any meds
>adhd autists who can't even pick up a phone without rethinking their life
>prescribe them amphetamine to turn them into into turboautists
doctors are d e v i l i s h
Just start smoking crack, it’s even better than adderall or concerta
snorting adderall is up there for me
The problem with ADHD is you just want to keep going higher in energy or stay high up. Not that easy. I think that's why a lot of people recommend coffee or weed all day or the opposite and cutting it out completely. I think best case scenario is stone cold sober and some exercise when you crash naturally. Yea it's fricking hard but that's the cards you were dealt too so at least enjoy the natty highs. I wish I could be balls to the walls every day but it's unrealistic.
>ADHD
This shit is heavily overdiagnosed. It seems that every other zoomer has it now
Yes.
>High quality fish oil (Nordic Naturals, liquid form)
>Regular exercise.
Plenty of anecdotes out there of ADHDzoomers who were able to quit their stimmies and replace it with running, which gives a sort of similar dopaminergic effect anyways.
>Regular meditation
literally lifting for the brain, strengthens your prefrontal cortex which is responsible for executive function and focus, a very weak part of the adhd brain.
avoid cheap dopamine like the plague, it's like crack for people with weaker reward systems. NO PORN AT ALL.
This helped me a lot. Good luck.
adhd is a made up illness by lazy, egotistical victim mentality children who think they are better than others but something they can't control is keeping them down. social media has microwaved your brain, grow up, take responsibility for your actions and stop being lazy
>I haven't got anything to contribute so I'm gonna act clever... Ooops in failed
ADHD isn't real
It's just a branding for your lack of self discipline
You can't focus on something without making yourself focus on it
Where does the anti-ADHD rhetoric come from? You never see people saying Autism isn't real (especially on here lol).
because ADHD is purely behavioural on the surface and so morons think you can just change your behaviour like flicking a switch and not have it anymore
the same crowd that doesn't believe in depression, saying instead shit like "just don't be sad, get some sun and drink some water lol"
>just be yourself
>just be happy
Unironically try regular iron supplements. Helps with energy.
Only if you're deficient
or just stop being a homosexual and eat a diet of meat, cheese and fish
I solved it once, which lasted like 6 months. I'm still trying to figure out how I did it and why I relapsed. It was a combination of:
>Sleep Deprivation for a certain period. This is extremely underated. I believe it fixed my circadian rythm. Also probably boosted cortisol during the day and other helpful hormonal changes
>Fasting. I assume it helps rewiring the brain and reward mechanism in some way.
>Vyvanse or Dexamin IR. Best ADHD stimulant. Also helps with fasting.
>Melatonin IR. Helps you fall asleep
>Physical activity. Jog in the morning at bare minimum.
>Supplement vitd/k2/magnesium and some other stuff
It felt so good. Almost too good, which got me wondering if I wasn't just psychotic from the lack of sleep.
>unlimited energy during the day, both physically and mentally. always positive and confident. not a single intrusive thought or mood swing. full go getter mode.
>fall asleep within minutes thanks to melatonin. sleep 4-5 hours, wake up, instantly feel refreshed and not even slightly tired. figuratively jump out of bed.
>therapy that didn't do shit before suddenly works instantly
tl:dr felt like a 10 year old kid again.
I suspect a core cause of my shitbrains is poor sleep quality due to really bad airflow through my nose. I can't help but mouthbreathe which is pretty widely regarded as a shit thing to do. That mouth taping stuff seems like it would just suffocate me. Is the go-to analysis of that a sleep study, or is there something less tedious?
I'm pretty anti-medication, especially the "try each thing one-by-one and hope one works" approach that seems to happen.
You won't suffocate if you tape your mouth because you will wake up if your body is not able to breathe, not to mention your nose will clear itself up when you're unable to get oxygen. Anyways if you're paranoid like me just get a gf and she will watch over you sleeping so you won't die. Wagmi gl
nicotene, get real snus or cigs, if you dont wanna smoke get a vape
How exactly does one get formally diagnosed with ADHD? It's not exactly a disease you can be tested for
I spoke to my doctor and he said that it can cost thousands of dollars for an official diagnosis, but what exactly are they going to do? Just make me fill out some forms/
Find a cheap psychiatrist and it'll cost around £500 for a diagnosis + £200 for each follow up appointment. The uber cheap ones will do the appointments over zoom and you'll never meet them in person. As long as you get the pills the quality of the care doesn't matter. The care is the pills.
Stimulant meds are £50 per bottle.
NHS waiting times are well over 2 years for an ADHD diagnosis so going private is your only option. If you can't afford it then stop being poor
Where would i go to find a cheap one like you said? I'm UK too and sick of waiting for NHS
Search google for online psychiatrists in the UK. They will have prices on their website for ADHD consultations. The non-white ones will just hand out the diagnosis as long as you give them money.
cheers
FYI, once you've got the diagnosis and prescription you can have the psychiatrist hand your prescription over to your NHS GP so the NHS pays for the pills.
Saves you money in the long run
>As long as you get the pills the quality of the care doesn't matter. The care is the pills.
frickin hell
I’m from Australia and got diagnosed with autism and adhd after one 45 minute session where I told him about my lifestyle and habits. he had a wait period of 6 weeks and it cost about 400 AUD though I only paid 200 due to being on welfare and so getting it subsidised.
The main issue with adhd diagnoses is that they lump in too many groups, there's a huge difference between people who lack inhibition control and people with actual scatterbrain for example.
I have difficulty filtering my thoughts and focusing on one thing, it's like my brain is running at 150% every second I'm awake. What people don't understand about truly "adhd" people is it's almost like a non psychotic schizophrenia. You get all the information from all your senses all the time with no filter. Stimulants clear it up and help with "focus" but make me feel moronic because of how narrow your consciousness becomes when you are on them. I did done lots of drugs recreationally and for "self medicating" when I was in my early 20's and eventually realized it's all cope. If you have an overclocked brain you just have to deal with it, that's life. Just accept that menial repetitive tasks that are calming to normies will be torturous for you and do your best to avoid them, play into your strengths and choose something to do with yourself that's dynamic and flexible.
Chaotic environments are easily navigable for high speed speds, personally I find coaching/training others very easy because of how quickly I can adapt to their level of competence and understanding and find ways to relate to them. So that's what I've transitioned to, at my job I went managing people and hating it to doing nothing but training new hires and am now getting great results and enjoying it a lot. Find something that works for you and quit sniffing crushed up addy 4x a day and banging your head against the wall trying to be "normal".
t. "gifted" adhd moron with 140iq who got shoved into special classes in school and repeatedly told I needed meds because I was "disruptive" (thank god my parents refused)
there are 7 types of adhd, its not tye 90s anymore.
yet the treatment for all of them is still just amphetamine scripts... it's a meme. Psychology is a pseudoscience full of scamming larpers using basic nlp tricks to convince you to keep paying them and buy more drugs.
1. It’s not psychology, it’s psychiatry
2. Amphetamines aren’t the only stimulants, and are banned in many countries
3. Medication isn’t even the only recommendation. Cognitive behavioural therapy is usually the go-to, as well as reading and putting into practice what you read in habit-building books
you know so little about what it is you say yet speak with such confidence. I doubt you even care to be convinced you’re wrong
Tough it out. Treat your focus like a muscle that needs intense workouts and rest periods. Not even normal people can focus forever. Just keep pushing yourself another 15 minutes before rest. Every opportunity you get, push yourself and rest properly
nicotine is pretty good in a pinch, get some Zyn or swedish snus
Modafinil is a common off-label prescription but it'd preferable if you tried a non-stimulant (like Atomoxetine, has same success ratio of methylphenidate), but I don't know if those are affected by the shortage.
What a bunch of homosexuals, you lack discipline and feel like amphetamines is the cure. Literally all you have to do to combat the fake disease that is ADHD is denying yourself constant stimulation. Your attention span is fried from flashing lights and sounds, its not a real disease
two replies in a row referring to ADHD as a disease when it’s actually classified as a disorder, not a disease. very ignorant
Meme 'disease' just pay attention bro
ADHD isn't real. You have dopamine tolerance due to an overstimulating lifestyle.
Turn off your screen for a month.
>ADHD meds
You mean amphetamines lmao.
Shit bait
Use the adhd to your advantage
It's a physical deformity of the brain. Your prefrontal cortex is underdeveloped. If they pulled out your brain they'd immediately see your prefrontal cortex is too small within like 1 minute
What are the signs of adhd in a girl?
You seem to respond well to stimulants
Try wellbutrin, it's basically adderall lite