Hello, I look forward to getting made fun of by each and every one of you for asking about Anavar.
Male, 29 years old, 200lbs, lifting for about four years but not always super consistently (as in I would lapse to once or twice a week for stretches). Currently on a good routine and seeing some gains. Core lifts are about 1/1.8/2.5/3. Haven't had bloodwork in a couple years but even at my most disciplined I never had test higher than the 400s.
My friend has extra Anavar that he'll give me. I could run 20mg for 8 weeks (or 4 weeks and do it again in a couple months). I don't have any PCT, but this dose seems low enough to be relatively harmless. What can I expect by way of results? Is no PCT a mistake even on this mild a dose and drug? This would be my first time taking anything of the sort.
>I don't have any PCT, but this dose seems low enough to be relatively harmless
yeah, there's ton of studies on anavar, 20mg for 6-12 weeks with no test base or pct is very common. it will be harmless and your test will go back to normal quickly, but you may lose your gains without any pct. try getting enclo or at least nolva
I appreciate the response. I'll look into it.
>20mg
Literally clearwater.
Minimum 30-40
in clinical trials running 20mg for 24 weeks gave better gains, with barely any supression or changes in lipids, compared to 40 or 80mg for 12 weeks
Sauce? Need material for my var folder on zotero
found it
https://journals.lww.com/jaids/fulltext/2006/03000/oxandrolone_in_the_treatment_of_hiv_associated.6.aspx
literally nothing. you lose the enhanced look when you go off and also the gains. your test will tank and regardless if it rebounds or not it will tank and you will lose the very little you gained running it for 8 weeks when you have to lift with 50ng/dl test for 3 months after that. seriously how much gains do you think you can make it in 8 weeks? lets say you gain 3kg in a year natty which would be fricking tons, that would be about 500g of lean muscle in 8 weeks.
how much more gains are you gonna make on gear? well its really impossible to say but your not even running test + this and that, literally just var so its more or less the same 500g, so best case scenario is you keep all of the 0,5kg but in reality like i said you will tank your test and your lifting will go to shit so you will retain literally nothing more than your natural physique.
go for it if you want frick do i care but havent read anything more moronic than this in a while. you dont even lift 1/2/3/4 which i achieved in 6 months natty at 70kg bw, just fricking give it up moron you are already looking for a shortcut and you look for a shortcut shortcut since you are too much of a gay to actually bnc
this is more in line with the feedback I was expecting, thank you both for coming to my rescue
You're welcome. Stop being a pussy and pin test homosexual.
Wow dude! You're going to blast a whole 20mg of Anavar a day? Can't wait to see your jacked fibraz after your super duper hardcore blast. Leaving humanity behind!
>1/1.8/2.5/3
you're well below what I'd consider an acceptable level of training that would justify hopping on roids
>What can I expect by way of results?
severe acne, emotional problems, night sweats, and maybe some mild fat loss and strength gain
>Is no PCT a mistake even on this mild a dose and drug?
yes
I'll be frank with you, you're risking nearly permanently fricking yourself up for very little in return
if you want to do steroids, do a lot more reading and learning, and genuinely get yourself into a position where your training is on point enough that you won't be either wasting money or snapping your shit up
test levels don't matter for shit, because there's no way to measure your androgen receptor activity or the KsubD of your test to your androgen receptors.
>severe acne, emotional problems, night sweats
>you're risking nearly permanently fricking yourself up for very little in return
stop acting like a hysterical woman, 20mg is literally a clinical dose with little to no sides
I did it and am doing it again. You can put on about 10-15lbs lean on a 1-2 month anavar cycle with proper sleep and diet, no test base, no pct, no side effects (except libido increase). I am doing 25mg a day.
>https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/84/8/2705/2864236
15mg/day oxandrolone on healthy men stimulated growth hormones and net muscle protein synthesis.
>https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/japplphysiol.00808.2003
In healthy older men only 20mg/day for 12 weeks was necessary to gain 6kg of lean body mass, whereas natties gained almost nothing.
>anavar works
no shit sherlock, I don't need scientific evidence that anavar builds muscle
It doesn't just work, it works alone without a test base and produces probably the least side effects of any anabolic that is well-studied. Do it if you want to, and don't care about being judged by both anonymous roiders who think you're a pussy and anonymous natties who as jealous of your quick gains.
this. rare intelligent poster who doesn't just parrot muh test base from r/steroid wiki
anavar only is moronic, halotestin is where it is at
Anavar + test + enclomiphene as pct as first cycle is totally ok.
Keep cardarine for cholesterol
morons on this board can't bench 2 plates/bw and actually jump on PEDs, kek. Have fun being mogged by natties (me)
Don't care, I am happy to progress towards you at 2x the pace I would have natty.
I thought it was lmafo