ANYONE WHO DOES KETO IS A DYEL
ANYONE WHO DOESN'T DO KETO IS A WELL DISCIPLINED DYEL
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ANYONE WHO DOES KETO IS A DYEL. ANYONE WHO DOESN'T DO KETO IS A WELL DISCIPLINED DYEL
ANYONE WHO DOES KETO IS A DYEL
ANYONE WHO DOESN'T DO KETO IS A WELL DISCIPLINED DYEL
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ANYONE THAT THINKS THERE IS ONE DIET THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE NO MATTER THE CONTEXT AND CIRCUMSTANCES WILL FOREVER NGMI
>pulling the muh ancestor card
SPOTTED ONE LIGHT EM UP
ANYONE WHO REJECTS THE FUNDAMENTAL TENANTS OF BIOLOGY IS NGMI
Sure CICO always applies but if your health is all fricked it will only make you skinny instead of helping you actually get your health back to simply lower calorie intake and increase calorie output without also taking into account what foods you get those calories from. Being a healthy weight is a symptom of health, just forcing your body to be skinny by depriving it of food is mere symptom control. If being skinny is what you are after and being healthy is unimportant to you then by all means, you do you. I am more interested in healthmaxxing though. And since everyone is at a different place with their personal health, one person might need different foods than another for peak performance. For example, i have insanely elevated iron levels. My body will thrive more on a diet that takes that into account and avoids high iron foods for now until this is resolved compared to someone that has a severe iron deficiency. So for someone, eating lots of iron rich food is exactly what they will need to perform their best but for others that same diet would frick them over completely. Now, if i would go around telling people that iron rich foods are poison because when i eat them i feel worse and that they are idiot for not listening then that would just show that i do not understand that different problems require different solutions and would out me as an absolute cretin.
Not reading your blogpost. I said nothing about CICO. Didn't read further
>zero attention span
>zero mental stamina
>zero interest in furthering one‘s knowledge
>zero interest in nuance
>zero interest in understanding more
Ah yes, how predictable.
Okay bud.
Your writing is fricking awful. I regret reading that. I was so distracted by the writing itself that I could barely get the meaning of what you said.
>ONE DIET THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE NO MATTER
you may now have a nice day
Keto is mostly appealing to fat people though.
Because that is who will benefit from it the most. If you are fat, you have insulin resistance. If you have insulin resistance, cutting out crabs is your only hope. If you are not fat, you will thrive on healthy carbs for peak energy and as long as you never over do it to the point of getting fat, you will be fine. However, once you have gotten fat, carbs will frick you up. Ofc you can lose weight just going extremely low cal, but it won‘t fix the underlying insulin issue and thus you will just gain that shit back if you ever dare eating more than 1000kcals again or if you stop working out like a maniac. None of those things apply to people that had an ideal weight all their life. Saying keto is stupid because healthy people can exercise more intensely when eating carbs is just ignorant.
>people that had an ideal weight all their life
Somewhat of a stretch, but yes. Consitently not fat people will be ok with carbs.
Now why in the frick KETO + intermittent fasting is still done by skinny people remains a mystery of marketing.
>mystery
Being skinny doesn‘t necessarily mean you are healthy. You could be on the verge of insulin resistance and thus already feel the onset effects of that like low energy, sleep issues, low tolerance for frustration/annoyance/stress, cravings, loss of mental clarity, skin issues, digestive issues etc. In which case cutting the snacks and the sugar might be all that is needed to stop this development in it‘s tracks before you start getting fat and have more serious health problems. However, no carbs and OMAD if you have none of those issues does seem rather unnecessary and potentially detrimental, yes.
Are you trying to soften it for the morons, or something? Frick em, tbh
One meal a day based on animal fat and protein is the way humans are supposed to eat. The notion that no one diet is good for everyone is like saying no one diet is good for all lions, elephants, gorillas, rabbits, etc. Obvious nonsense. We are humans, we evolved to fill a specific niche, just like all animals did. In our case, that niche was twofold, a scavenger to hunter. We only started eating any appreciable amounts of plants 10k years ago, dairy was similar. One clear adaptation to it was some degree of lactose tolerance in some Europeans. However, even that is very spotty, even the people who are "tolerant" to lactose still often get the shits due to milk, etc. Our adaptations to eating grains are even more hit and miss, personally I don't risk it and just eat meat, eggs, fish, etc, some vegetables with my meat sometimes, because why the frick not. Asparagus is a great addition to steak.
>One meal a day based on animal fat and protein is the way humans are supposed to eat
Explain hypoglycemia then.
Explain people literally blacking out in the middle of the day due to being on KETO and fasting for a while ?
I have friends who experienced this while being in their company. Imagine a man falling over in the middle of the street, because he is strict with his diet.
How the frick is this, the way our ancestors did it ?
>Explain hypoglycemia then.
A state brought on by long term starvation or exogenous insulin use. Also possible in the case of severe genetic metabolic derangement, but those unfortunate children die shortly after birth.
>Explain people literally blacking out in the middle of the day due to being on KETO and fasting for a while ?
That literally does not happen. It never happens, you lying sack of shit. Literally never. There is no mechanistic reason why it would, due to gluconeogenesis, that our liver ALWAYS DOES ANYWAY, regardless if you eat carbs or not. You would literally die in your sleep if it didn't, because in a healthy person the blood glucose from the carbs you eat is disposed of from the bloodstream within two hours of eating, turning them into triglicerydes, what wasn't pushed into muscles outright. So if your liver was not constantly producing glucose, you'd have to eat every 2 hours on the dot, or you would die.
If I thought for a SECOND that you weren't lying, I'd tell your friends to up their electrolyte intake while their body adjusts. If you ate carbs for decades and then suddenly just stopped, your insulin would drop and your electrolytes would get flushed. Stops being a problem after a month or two after your body finds a new equilibrium, but can be annoying in the meantime.
But I know you are fricking lying. You sack of excrement. Hypoglycemia on keto or carnivore does not happen, ever, not even with type 2 diabetics. Type 1, its possible, IF they're taking insulin. Even so, both type 1 and type 2 diabetics use keto and carnivore to successfully control their condition. In the case of type 2, often to cure it. Not in America, of course, yours is a 3rd world country.
Also this. Just fast for a few days and wear a CGM and you will see with thine own eyes how easily your body can generate glucose to ramp up blood sugar if need be without any food whatsoever. If you pass out from hypoglycemia then you are literally days away from dying anyways or might be stupid enough to fast and inject insulin or some moronation of the sorts.
>That literally does not happen. It never happens
Yeah sure homosexual. You discredited your own post right there. It does happen and it happens to a lot of people doing this fad shit. Especially given how you need a fricking laboratory with you to get it done properly, while people are doing it on a whim with no electrolytes and no nothing.
People do diets on a whim and KETO + fasting holds the same risks moron diets do.
My friend was on KETO-OMAD. Forget doing physical work he was barely holding himself form hitting the pavement mid-walk.
People with questionable health do diets on a whim, not measuring everything daily. KETO-OMAD holds genuine risks.
Sure he took measures later on, but barely handling basic activities does not make KETO-OMAD appealing at all.
The more complex, the less people will succeed.
>It does happen and it happens to a lot of people doing this fad shit
Sigh. You lying, malicious sack of gorilla cum.
I've met hundreds of people who went keto or carnivore. Not one of them passed out from hypo, not even the diabetics. There's NO data to support what you're saying, anecdotal or otherwise. Seeing as keto is constantly under attack from vegetards like you, if there was actual data to support this it would be shouted from the rooftops and written of in articles. You don't need a laboratory. You just need to eat a teaspoon more of salt a day for a month or two. You lying, evil, despicable worm.
Oh really ?
What is Keto Flu then ? Why is it such a common occurrence ? Why are there studies on the topic and afflicted people ?
You can argue it isn't full blown hypoglycemia, but you can at least acknowledge the genuine risks it holds. Not that you would, since keto cultists never admit risks with their fad diet.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7278276/
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/crie/2019/9674245/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7299499/
>keto flu
That only happens to people that had severe shit diet before. I never had any of these symptoms but i ate whole foods exclusively before for a long time already.
Also, you expect yourself to feel your absolute best when your body is adapting it‘s whole metabolism? That‘s effort, ofc you will feel a bit less energetic until you have adapted. Not to mention that running on sugar feels nice, if it wasn‘t for all the problems that come with it, because it is easy. If you switch away from that, you take away the sugar rush and then you realize how shitty you have felt underneath that all along. Kind of like taking pain killers 24/7 then coming off of them and then freaking out if you start feeling in what shit condition you have actually been in. But guess what? That is what it takes to actually get your health back again. Just glossing over it by keeping yourself high energy with constant sugar dopamine rushes might feel alright for twenty years but then it will catch up to you. Also, people are absolutely fricking weak pussies. Omg i feel a bit tired and dizzy, this is unbearable. Get a grip.
I agree people are weak, but that is the norm, rather than the exception.
The diet holds genuine risks, simple as. In fact it is outright incompatible with highly-physically intense jobs.
>risks
Damn true it does. But so does every other diet that is not what the person doing it actually needs. In fact, not matching your diet to your circumstances will absolutely kill you. Nobody said doing keto right if it is what your body needs is easy, but then again, nothing worth much is simple, eh?
>risks
risk is a conjugate of cause, there are no studies informing on risk as pertaining to diet in humans anywhere in the world.
Being alive is the biggest risk anon. It has a 100% mortality rate.
Sigh. It's electrolyte imbalance, you buffoon, caused by a sudden drop in insulin after eating DECADES of shit food. Which I already explained. A teaspoon or two more of salt a day for a month or two, boom, problem solved. But you morons are deathly afraid of sodium, so I bet a lot of those people cut sodium even more, don't salt their food enough because they're afraid of muh blood pressure. My bp is 110 over 70, and I eat like 20 grams of salt a fricking day, salt has frick all to do with blood pressure, and the vast majority of people don't eat enough.
As to your studies, HOLY FRICK!
>a guy with CANCER
>an ACTIVE ALCOHOLIC
>MICE
You are EVIL, you know that, right? You are the worst kind of scum, the worst sort of villain! You rape truth with a baseball bat with nails driven through. You piece of subhuman trash!
>you are evil
Gee, it must be me who is strongly vouching for a diet that makes you less functional as a human being.
Shifting away from plant foods to a diet comprised almost entirely of animals is what made us human.
Just because fixing complicated health issues is not easy and requires knowledge and precision does not mean the method is bad. It just means the person needs to dig further and educate themselves.
NTA but if your body is used to deploying huge amounts of insulin as a response to you eating and because your cells have built up a resistance to it then yes, absolutely you WILL experience hypoglycemia when you stop shoveling in the carbs your body is accustomed to because it takes a while to down regulate the insulin response to the new nutritional situation and for your cells to recover their sensitivity. Give it a year at least if you have been a fat frick for a while. You can‘t expect your body to just function again after three days of keto anon. If you actually pass out (you won‘t, my blood glucose regularly tanked down to 2.7 in the beginning and i felt fine) then maybe you need to esse your body into it by not going OMAD right away but cut it down to only three then two squares meals and lots of vegetables. Giving up on low carb because your system did not adapt to it in two months is just showing that you do not understand what was happening and how it actually to be expected and a sign that your body is trying to restore it‘s health.
I posted the rant above your post, and I've never seen symptomatic hypoglycemia with keto, even in massive fatasses who jumped into it way too quickly. Lowest I've seen myself was around 4. Nowadays its anything between 4.5-6, pretty much never goes above that no matter how much steak I eat.
That said, its a much better idea to ease into it over like 6 weeks if you're not metabolically flexible, but not because of blood sugar. The reason is electrolyte balance, that CAN get thrown out of whack if your insulin level suddenly tanks because you're no longer shoving carbs down your neck
True. I wore a CGM for two weeks recently and my glucose is very stable between 4.5 and 6.1 (highest ever after huge meal and lack of sleep).
I also fully agree on the electrolytes. Absolutely crucial. It made fasting a breeze once i started taking them because my body wanted to eat not for fuel but for nutrition. If i give it the nutrition it needs it can continue to use the fuel already available aka any excess fat. I never tried it myself but i can see how going from drinking regular soda, eating fast food and sweets all day to OMAD keto from one day to the other could potentially frick you over to the point of symptomatic hypoglycemia. It would probably resolve itself in a week but eh, better go gradually and then up the intensity.
>showing a guy who sells supps and refuses to be watched to make sure he eats as he preaches as the contrast to a vegan
Lol nope
omad you lose size tho maybe it works for lardasses but i want 18 inch biceps at under 12% bf so frick your dyel omad shit i' gonna eat carbs and meat and antinootrients and i'll always be bigger and more aesthetic than you kek
>LET ME SEE YOUR LAST REP FACE!
I'm doing it to avoid worsening any cavities. One of my molars already cleanly split along a weak spot and I'm pretty sure the one underneath it has the same issue but it hasn't broken yet. Don't want to risk my teeth becoming worse so I don't eat more than maybe 5 carbs a day most days (including plant sugar)
Imagine developing an eating disorder when you could literally just brush your teeth what the hell
>Eating disorder
I count my macros like any other anon and I enjoy the food it's not a disorder
Brushing wouldn't help that dummy I have to floss/waterpik to get the meat residue completely out which I do everyday anyways
Eating 60%+ fat diet and excluding 90% of foods in normal amounts is an eating disorder
90% of the things at the grocery could not be considered "food". Avoiding them is reasonable.
Terrible strawman.
>Terrible strawman
You don't know what a strawman is.
>moving the goalposts
That was the only post I've made in the thread. I haven't moved any goalposts. I made no mention of teeth, either, so I'm certain you think I'm the other guy.
>You don't know what a strawman is.
Sure bud. Show me where I mentioned grocery stores? I didn't? Well you based your argument on it so thats a strawman.
Holy shit lol. You said "90% of foods". Where do you buy food if not a grocery store? You're getting spun up over nothing.
There is food in a grocery store but not everything in a grocery store is food. Nobody mentioned cinnamon toast crunch or white bread. Food is food and everyone knows what food is. I did not say food product or processed food. I said food.
Oh, okay. So instead of sperging out about strawmans or whatever other logical fallacies that don't exist, why don't you define what you mean by "food"?
Lol you said "excluding 90% of foods in normal amounts is an eating disorder." failed to define what you mean by "food", then got upset when someone mentions a grocery store. lmao
>he needs definition for food
Wow
I bet you're fat and you eat garbage. Post grocery list.
>ad hom
Sad
>moving the goalposts.
You re eating mostly meat and oil so you can be lax in the care of your teeth. Thats extremely disordered.
Brush your teeth, moron. Meat getting stuck in your teeth with rot them from gums.
It's gonna work, as long as you don't eat too much plants. That shit will frick up your teeth, to a lesser degree than refined carbs, but still.
You can't be serious
Yeah I've been doing it for a few years now. No more teeth problems since I started
Fricking hell these threads are moronic.