I'm struggling with this frick1ng disorder since a year and half. It literally destroyed my mind and my historical low bodyfat and good shape (still muscular but with high bf)
Have some of you managed to overcome this shit? How?
Anyone with binge eating disorder here?
>my historical low bodyfat and good shape (still muscular but with high bf)
>cope cope cope cope cope cope
You deserve to be fat if youre not honest with yourself
I'm literally saying i'm out of control and this disgust me.
(all this shit started after my zoomer sister died ina car crash. I sratred smoking and eating goyslop)
I'm starting a therapy but i wanna know if someone managed to overcame the disorder
(i'm around 20% bf btw)
eating disorders aren't real
the hunger hormone ghrelin is and any disfunction of this hormone will cause an appetite that can not be satiated and therefore is a disorder of eating. duh.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
Mental illness isn't real either. Same with addiction. All you can do is just say no.
Eat 1500calories for 18 months then report back. Also remember to include eventually the rule that if you ate over it you had to do that much calories over in minutes of cardio.
If maintaining weight loss was so easy people would do it. The 2-4 weeks after the diet was the craziest rollercoaster I ever experienced in my life, but nobody talks about it cuz who cares after the photo is taken.
started binging a few years ago after an extremely steep cut, since then I've binged once every couple months to once per week, depending on how stressed/busy I am. Also have that out of control feeling when I do it, it's like i could keep eating forever and never feel satisfied. It's probably a behavior that's now wired into my brain, only way out of it is to never give into those binge urges again, and hope that the urges go away
went from 465 to 300, stomach shrank like a mother fricker from fasting.
went from 300 to 205, and was drinking 8 gallons of water a day, and eventually broke and started binging on top of the food volume on top of the water.
like this guy it's diet induced, but it eventually just becomes routine.
I unironically bought 24 donuts one day (from the bakery) ate 20, almost vomitted and tossed them out, woke up at 3 am and grabbed them from the dumpster outside and finished them. I did that with different food on other occasions. I also dumpster dived working a trash job at night. I literally couldn't stop myself when the "urge" came on.
the only way to fix it is to lmao not do it, and remove any sort of calorie deficit (makes you hungrier and less full).remove any restrictions at all, and let yourself eat whatever you want for as much as you want, yeah you'll get fat, but it'll probably be 20 pounds max, which yeha is a lot, but whats better, fixing a disease and cutting later, or slowly going up and hating yourself more daily.
After this final cut from 225>205, I'm going to use UGL semaglutide and destroy my appetite for like 1-3 months to prevent binging, hopefully that'll fix it.
Also, if it's from emotional eating, you have to identify the emotion and replace the eating.
Bulimia IMO is worse than anorexia, because bulimia is a cycle which literally only makes it worse, and the shit feeling you get from binging is one of the most depressing things I've ever experience in my life.
Same happen for me. I feel like a complete failure for a couple of days, sometimes i feel so ashamed that i don’t go out
I have never wanted to kill myself more that i've lost this weight cause now I'm a walking ball of skin + binge eating + i'm 20 pounds from my goal.
I get the cut at 21 next march or may. if I don't like it and continue to stay a volcel I will probably end up shooting myself over it.
but it is what it is, shoulda spawned with parents who understood how to eat right so I didn't have to diet I guess.
The last part of your post might be an explanation for me. I‘ m the only easyfatgainer out or a family of ectomorphs/ endomorphs and i’m half Hispanic half italian so in my teenages our family dinners were almost all wopslop/spicslop with people “why don’t you eat this anon ?”
I struggled losing fat, i was ottermode for almost two years then shits happened and binge eating started. Que mierda
Hispanic/Italian as well
Big family dinners, of course with appeitizers, of course with lard fried beans or extra oil in the spaghetti
Howver it wasn't that, it was the goyslop they eat/let me eat. It's a weekly thing now with them. "I'm done with the junkfood" then there is a chips ahoy box right there 2 days later, they literally don't try. The funny thing is I don't even care about that goyslop shit 95% of the time. It's when I eat and something clicks and goes "hey" then it's fricked, I can not eat for literally 7 days, I enjoy being hungry, but I can't stop eating when I start, it's what I'm going to work on post-cut with the semaglutide
(yes I know it's assisted, but I will obviously binge just trying it normally)
>Bulimia IMO is worse than anorexia, because bulimia is a cycle which literally only makes it worse, and the shit feeling you get from binging is one of the most depressing things I've ever experience in my life.
as a bulimic this is real and true. its so much easier to hide than anorexia too so you can be stuck in hell for literal decades and no one will know
>its so much easier to hide than anorexia too so you can be stuck in hell for literal decades and no one will know
My relatives just called my physyque shape ''el acordeón'' (the accordion). I can literally be from ottermode to builtfat and fatty in months
hey man,
I do/did. It sucks. Only you can change yourself, but know that our brains frequently have different goals from ourselves and push us to make irrational decisions.
I started taking Ozempic when I was super overweight, and it helped me curb binge eating because I literally could not or I'd get super nauseous.
Good luck, man. it sucks. If you can, see a therapist about it.
Semaglutide? But you still have the craving, haven’t you?
You have to avoid putting yourself into a position where you can binge eat. You should be eating tons of fresh fruit and veg, and lean protein, throughout the day. If you eat nothing, go on long workout and then come back to an empty kitchen, you're more likely to GrubHub some slop.
I'd look at low-dose Naltrexone before getting into semaglutide (Ozempic/Wegovy): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36285406/
if I had to homebrew Contrave off an indian website how should I dose it
standard protocol say 8/90 Naltrexone/bupropion up to 32/360, so it's about 1:10
i can get 50mg Naltrex tabs, and 150mg buprioion tabs
I was thinking 12.5 / 150 > 25 / 225 > 32.5 / 300 > 50 / 450
I have no idea man. I take low-dose Naltrexone for joint pain and discovered it curbed my binge eating, although mine was "eating the whole pad thai when I meant to have half", not "ranch on the pizza" level.
What was your dose? I'll probably need to 4x it lmao.
Also did you use Bupropion to or no?
I resolved changing food with cigarettes / vaping. Pretty sure it’s a dopaminergic thing
it is. I just like eating, I'm not even hungry most of the day.
I'm honestly tempted to get into a different drug or something. Nicotine gum didnt really do much and I forget to take stuff though, so it kinda sucks,
how to identify whether it's an eating disorder or not? i feel so disgusted at myself. i was never in such a good shape (well, actually thin since it probably wasn't really healthy) as i was in january, i would feel full so easily, i barely felt like eating and it was great, but now whenever i get back home i feel an urge to devour everything i can. it's so disgusting and animalistic. i'm not really fat yet, people still say i'm thin, but i notice my belly becoming bigger and it frustrates me so much
might try this. my problem with cigarettes is that i'm moronic and get my clothes burn. is this a common mistake or am i just too stupid?
I overcome it temporarily when I get depressed. One of my cats recently fell from a sixth floor and broke his jaw so I've lost my appetite and cravings. I had to force myself to eat today because I felt like shit and almost passed out after not eating for three days. Ran 5k (barely) and couldn't lift today. I'll try to survive on snake juice and make the most of it since I'm cutting anyways. Something that helps is to never buy the things you binge on to avoid temptation. Make the things you don't want to do harder so fricking up will require a greater effort than not fricking up. I wish I had better advice.
bupropion 150mg extended release
it kills your appetite for about 2 months while also helping with anxiety and shyet, so it's like a double whammy
use that time to get your shit together then drop it
you can thank me later
for about 2 months as in thats as long as it works?
how long does contrave work or any of the 2 in single unison, need the super saiyan anti-binge stack to fix me for a while...
it's more or less what it takes you apettite to revert to baseline (and that's a good thing, else you'd starve to death) but the anxiolytic effects are still there to some degree
is it once daily XR?
can i up it to twice? as in 300mg daily? would that add an extra 2 months?
also also, difference betwen XR and SR?
>bupropion 150mg extended release
I heard about a combination of this guy and naltrexone.
I'm also trying to quit the cigajewttes meme so i can have a double help.
Thanks anon
any side?
Bupropion works on the dopaminergig receptors in addition to the serotonergig, which might help on the rewarding system and the anhedonia some people feel and that they alleviate with binge eating.
Most of them are the same as any ssri and are caused by the increased activity and anxiousness/tension, like head ache, gastrointestinal issues like diarrhoea, palpitations, and usually reside after a short while. Dry mouth and difficulty to sleep.
If I had to guess, there's an increased risk of getting hypomania if you're bipolar by bupropion compared to ssris, and bigger chance of getting psychotic symptoms because of the dopaminergic function, but that's probably more theoretical than practical.
I think bupropion can be of help, but finding other ways to get the rewarding system going than binge eating, like finding alternative sources of fun, growing good habits, getting out, working out, being social and doing hobbies is probably still your most important job. Remember that antidepressants are only there to help you help yourself, and can't really solve your issues by themselves, they help you help you. Your main issue should be finding other ways to handle your habits of binging.
I just call it OMAD
Falling for the "eating disorders" meme is woman tier behavior.
Struggle with binge eating too especially after a lift
Eat high volume low cal healthy foods like fresh strawberries
Please no. That's encouraging the disorder. Feeling full/bloated is not satisfying. Restricting yourself to ''healthy'' food is increasing the desire for ''unhealthy'' food.
i do this shit all the time. gay Doucette and his "high volume low calorie foods". I was eating that potein ice cream, originally I couldn't stomach half the blender, now I can eat 3 of them.
Also I put these rules up, originally they helped, "no added sugar, no vegetable oil" but now I just binge on them. What helped was just intentionally adding them into my day, but to be honest I've been gaining rapidly, however I'm not worried since I planned on cutting and counting calories again, so I can fit them in.
An eating disorder is a mental disorder defined by abnormal eating behaviors that negatively affect a person's physical or mental health
That's a pretty women tier definition. But basically imagine this. I feel my relationship with food is worse than when I was morbidly obese, I've tried every single drug aside from contrave and adhd meds to stop, I literally got shakes trying to stop counting calories, I would get so anxious not logging food, and I am 20 years old and male and never even give a frick about myself so how does it make me anxious, that word is so fricking gay anyways. I'm considering roiding just so I never have to cut again once I'm done. I'm considering getting into recreational drugs just to swap pleasure. I think about how fat I am and how everyone else looks amazing. I can't engage socially with anybody, despite not having issues with it. On top of that, when I binge it doesn't even feel real, I'm eating my "clean healthy food" and then meal 3 comes and I'm like, I really want a slice of bread. Okay! I ate 1, lets have 6 now, I'll just eat until I'm full. 2 loaves laters and I'm not full. I haven't been "full" in months, I can stop eating, and I don't get hungry much, but I can't get "full".
>On top of that, when I binge it doesn't even feel real, I'm eating my "clean healthy food" and then meal 3 comes and I'm like, I really want a slice of bread. Okay! I ate 1, lets have 6 now, I'll just eat until I'm full. 2 loaves laters and I'm not full. I haven't been "full" in months, I can stop eating, and I don't get hungry much, but I can't get "full".
That's the feeling. Like you're in a bubble and then suddently you're again in the real world and you want to have a nice day
>>On top of that, when I binge it doesn't even feel real, I'm eating my "clean healthy food" and then meal 3 comes and I'm like, I really want a slice of bread. Okay! I ate 1, lets have 6 now, I'll just eat until I'm full. 2 loaves laters and I'm not full.
That's exactly what happens to me when I follow the "don't think of food as healthy or unhealthy" or "everything in moderation" advice. I just avoid it completely but as I avoid it more and more the craving also increases, frick me
The trick is to replace one disorder for another. In you case go with either anorexia or keto.
>I lost 300lb and now I'm very hungry
No shit. In the minnesota starvation experiment re-eating phase the men were consuming 11,000 calories a day. You can't fight hormones. You are like a skinny bear after winter trying to gorge himself for the next winter. Eat. Eat. EAT.
yeah but even though I went form 465 > 205 I'm not enough, on top of being hungies. It sucks knowing why I couldn't stop it.
So I'm going nuclear when this cut ends to prevent it, I'll just make my own fricking hormones, frick you body.
I struggle with this. Im dyel 12%bf so not a fatfrick but I keep getting discouraged when I cut by how smol my muscles are, then cope by going on crazy binges, meaning I have to keep cutting and cant do proper bulks. Its a vicious cycle
12% bf is prime bulking bf?
you got anorexia, not BED, and it's because you are to lean, consider going on a small bulk (250 cal surplus) which isn't "small" but just dont eat everything.
men aren't meant to go under 8-12% bf bro. you won't get fat enough to make marginal differences if you try the other direction first man. fix this shit before it's to late and you make 0 gains and have 0 things to show for it
Yeah Im in a pretty good spot now thankfully. I should just bite the bullet and bulk but I was literally 10% a few weeks back and I feel so stupid that I messed it up by binging a few times. I wanna cut back to 10 and then bulk to 17 ideally
haha oh no i just ate a bag of chips while playing a videogame on a sunday im soooo fricked up in the head haha im mentally ill!