Nope, it's the sugar industry spreading false rumors and investing in bad research to keep people addicted to sugar.
The sugar and coffeine industries are one of the strongest in the world.
I don't understand how being "addicted to sugar" is a bad thing and then still being addicted to it but getting your fix by using ersatz chemicals created in a lab is somehow okay. You're still addicted, aren't you?
we feel slightly better / energized / full / satiated / high - juiced up on whatever substance
youll always have that feeling in the back of your mind, reminidng you it was more fun and felt good
lack of selfcontrol will turn it into a systematic consumption, nobodys denying they want to do it again
the only difference is that peole arent supposed to do it all the time but if you remove the word selfcontrol
and capitalize israelily, addiction will bring in loads of money in form of substitute products and luckypills
thatll always be the crutch for a weakness everyone has in the back of their subconscious minds
They trigger insulin release and raise its level in the blood, making your cells more resistant to it, because there is nothing for the insulin to insert into the cells, since the sweetener is indigestable.
>All participants underwent a 3-h oral glucose tolerance test (OGTT) preceded by consuming sucralose or placebo 15 min before glucose load, at two time points: week zero (Wk0) and week ten (Wk10). Serum insulin and glucose were measured every 15 min during both OGTTs.
I think general IST reception to artificial sweeteners are typically positive. At least I imagine most people would agree its better for you than eating just plain sugar, unless youre that one anon that takes a bag of white sugar to the gym as his preworkout.
Define "bad". But in the way you are probably thinking (cause a negative impact to overall health) no, they are not bad. But neither is sugar unless you are overconsuming.
This is where it gets a lot more divisive but I want to say that stevia and sucralose are more well received on here than others like aspartame.
The problem isn't artificial sweeteners but all refined sugars.
‘Bad’ would refer to things like making you crave sugar more by increasing insulin sensitivity which I believe there’s a study for regarding sucralose. Or things like diarrhea.
I had some sugar free gum today for the first time in a long time & I’ve been on the toilet all day - it contains maltitol & xylitol.
Also, I’d like to incorporate things like flavoured casein into my yogurt & oats etc
I eat artificial sweeteners daily. The only thing that is confirmed that is does is make you crave sugar since you are basically cucking your body on sugar. I just keep this in mind and react accordingly. I drink coffee with stevia, bake with brown sugar stevia and put it in my oats, I drink Coke Zero, etc, etc, etc. I consume a lot of fake sugar.
ive been using a pure stevia sweetener for my coffee/tea. i think its the only one that isnt fricked up cause its extracted from a plant. make sure to check labels alot of em say its stevia but its like 40% stevia and the rest is sewage waste. >picrel
No, they are fine. Nobody got sick from it even though it's consumed by billions. It's basically safe like the vaccine which has been also taken by billions of people around the world.
ive been using a pure stevia sweetener for my coffee/tea. i think its the only one that isnt fricked up cause its extracted from a plant. make sure to check labels alot of em say its stevia but its like 40% stevia and the rest is sewage waste. >picrel
So you guys wouldn’t recommend sucralose + xylitol gum?
Most of my diet, 95%, comes from clean food that has nameable ingredients that is not made in a bullshit factory being heavily processed. The 5% is bread that I buy when I’m being too lazy to use my flour mill to grind wheat berries into flour
Almost everything I eat, since I cook for myself every day. Sometimes I eat some fast food, but not that often.
Still have a coke zero addiction that I can't shake off so theres that.
They certainly arn't good for you, but I think a lot of the fear mongering is definetly overblown.
any difference between taking them vs not taking them is so miniscule that it's probably not even going to be noticable. in fact probably the most and only real measurable difference is that not taking them will save you money. for me the added pleasure to my meals is worth it. Love having a diet Iced tea to go with my meat and veggies. the self induced autism one gets from "oh no muh aspartame" would probably do more damage than the ingredient itself.
And if you are that anal/scared about them, just don't consume them. Or go through periods of taking vs not taking and experiment to see if you actually feel any different. i almost guarantee you that you won't.
artificial sweetner isnt healthy, but it's more healthy than sugar consumption. if you're currently drinking soda every day, and you cant quit, go for the sugar free option
how do you actually know if its healthier or not ?
we still have the same insuline/blood sugar repsonse
we're basically tricking ourselves into thinking that we get something sweet
but we dont get the energy that correlates with common sweet foods
if anything, im worried that it might lead to insuline resistance and make us fatter/unhealthier than ever,
i havent read up on it because i dont have much of a sweet tooth but i wouldnt trust it blindly
just dont go overboard regardless of artificial or not
it's bad and the soda industry has the audacity of putting it into regular sodas as well. look this shit up, I checked the cans of eg regular/original coke, fanta, sprite and they all have sucralose and other bullshit.
if want to go for a good ol regular soda (because you'd think it's least not some poorly researched chemical like sucralose and it should contain natural sugar), you end up consuming BOTH sugar AND the artificial sweetener chemicals. WTF is this.
The good news here is that I stopped getting even an occasional regular soda and any zero calorie bullshit as well. I just drink water now, teas, and sometimes carbonated water with a tiny cap of apple or coconut vinegar sprinkle for the taste. (makes it tase a bit like kombucha).
i think xylitol is okay
They make my piss smell weird and my tummy feel bad so probably
Nope, it's the sugar industry spreading false rumors and investing in bad research to keep people addicted to sugar.
The sugar and coffeine industries are one of the strongest in the world.
I don't understand how being "addicted to sugar" is a bad thing and then still being addicted to it but getting your fix by using ersatz chemicals created in a lab is somehow okay. You're still addicted, aren't you?
there is no such thing as "sugar addiction", you might as well tell me oxygen is an addiction moron
addiction is a israelite word
we feel slightly better / energized / full / satiated / high - juiced up on whatever substance
youll always have that feeling in the back of your mind, reminidng you it was more fun and felt good
lack of selfcontrol will turn it into a systematic consumption, nobodys denying they want to do it again
the only difference is that peole arent supposed to do it all the time but if you remove the word selfcontrol
and capitalize israelily, addiction will bring in loads of money in form of substitute products and luckypills
thatll always be the crutch for a weakness everyone has in the back of their subconscious minds
Does the word "artificial" sounds healthy to you?
Use glycine instead
They trigger insulin release and raise its level in the blood, making your cells more resistant to it, because there is nothing for the insulin to insert into the cells, since the sweetener is indigestable.
Ok but is that good or bad?
Bad, it's the getting diabetes mechanism
No they dont, they use the polyol pathway like alcohol.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32284053/
>however, the effects are not consistent with dose; further research is required.
Its something else causing the spike.
>All participants underwent a 3-h oral glucose tolerance test (OGTT) preceded by consuming sucralose or placebo 15 min before glucose load, at two time points: week zero (Wk0) and week ten (Wk10). Serum insulin and glucose were measured every 15 min during both OGTTs.
The studies trash
As in each one drank a sugar drink for the oral glucose tolerance test...so obviously doing that test will spike insulin
Also the 96mg would be the same or higher than the 46mg...the results arent matching up.
They had 75g of glucose lmao huurrrr my insulin spiked!!!!!!! Oh really?
newbie OP you're supposed to start the thread with a lust-provoking image.
My bad I’m new here. So you guys don’t consume any chewing gum, diet soda or whey protein etc? I love chewing gum idk if I could quit it forever lol
I think general IST reception to artificial sweeteners are typically positive. At least I imagine most people would agree its better for you than eating just plain sugar, unless youre that one anon that takes a bag of white sugar to the gym as his preworkout.
Are all sweeteners good? E.g sucralose etc or are some preferable to others?
This is where it gets a lot more divisive but I want to say that stevia and sucralose are more well received on here than others like aspartame.
why did she do it anon?
must be evil
The problem isn't artificial sweeteners but all refined sugars.
Define "bad". But in the way you are probably thinking (cause a negative impact to overall health) no, they are not bad. But neither is sugar unless you are overconsuming.
‘Bad’ would refer to things like making you crave sugar more by increasing insulin sensitivity which I believe there’s a study for regarding sucralose. Or things like diarrhea.
I had some sugar free gum today for the first time in a long time & I’ve been on the toilet all day - it contains maltitol & xylitol.
Also, I’d like to incorporate things like flavoured casein into my yogurt & oats etc
>maltitol & xylitol
Would bet its the maltitol. Stuff has given me liquid shits. Xylitol has never given me any problems other than a bit of gas
I eat artificial sweeteners daily. The only thing that is confirmed that is does is make you crave sugar since you are basically cucking your body on sugar. I just keep this in mind and react accordingly. I drink coffee with stevia, bake with brown sugar stevia and put it in my oats, I drink Coke Zero, etc, etc, etc. I consume a lot of fake sugar.
Aspartame is the worst. Stevie may be alright. I tend to avoid the chemical ones as should any rational human.
Surely sweeteners can’t be that bad for you right?
ive been using a pure stevia sweetener for my coffee/tea. i think its the only one that isnt fricked up cause its extracted from a plant. make sure to check labels alot of em say its stevia but its like 40% stevia and the rest is sewage waste.
>picrel
No, they are fine. Nobody got sick from it even though it's consumed by billions. It's basically safe like the vaccine which has been also taken by billions of people around the world.
So you guys wouldn’t recommend sucralose + xylitol gum?
i would not avoid processed shit/chemically made shit as much as you can.
It fricks up your gut microbiome.
What does this even mean?
liquid shit
Look up gut flora. Bacteria in your gut affects your cravings.
>is (some chemical made by israelites created in factories through industrial processes akin to concrete) bad for you bros?
So you guys don’t consume ANY factory made foods? You just go your whole life eating single ingredient foods?
Most of my diet, 95%, comes from clean food that has nameable ingredients that is not made in a bullshit factory being heavily processed. The 5% is bread that I buy when I’m being too lazy to use my flour mill to grind wheat berries into flour
I LITERALLY only eats eggs, tomatos, onions, and pork and my self made spice mix.
Almost everything I eat, since I cook for myself every day. Sometimes I eat some fast food, but not that often.
Still have a coke zero addiction that I can't shake off so theres that.
They certainly arn't good for you, but I think a lot of the fear mongering is definetly overblown.
any difference between taking them vs not taking them is so miniscule that it's probably not even going to be noticable. in fact probably the most and only real measurable difference is that not taking them will save you money. for me the added pleasure to my meals is worth it. Love having a diet Iced tea to go with my meat and veggies. the self induced autism one gets from "oh no muh aspartame" would probably do more damage than the ingredient itself.
And if you are that anal/scared about them, just don't consume them. Or go through periods of taking vs not taking and experiment to see if you actually feel any different. i almost guarantee you that you won't.
Mostly reasonable but maltitol is the exception. Stuff will put you only on the toilet with liquid shits almost garunteed
Yes, so go and live off of oranges you steal from your neighbors trees.
So daily use of something like a xylitol only gum or an occasional Diet Coke is fine?
I don't like sucralose. It makes me feel weird. Sometimes it is hard to avoid in whey and hot chocolate.
artificial sweeteners are bad for you, refined sugar is bad for you
avoid both
artificial sweetner isnt healthy, but it's more healthy than sugar consumption. if you're currently drinking soda every day, and you cant quit, go for the sugar free option
how do you actually know if its healthier or not ?
we still have the same insuline/blood sugar repsonse
we're basically tricking ourselves into thinking that we get something sweet
but we dont get the energy that correlates with common sweet foods
if anything, im worried that it might lead to insuline resistance and make us fatter/unhealthier than ever,
i havent read up on it because i dont have much of a sweet tooth but i wouldnt trust it blindly
just dont go overboard regardless of artificial or not
it's bad and the soda industry has the audacity of putting it into regular sodas as well. look this shit up, I checked the cans of eg regular/original coke, fanta, sprite and they all have sucralose and other bullshit.
if want to go for a good ol regular soda (because you'd think it's least not some poorly researched chemical like sucralose and it should contain natural sugar), you end up consuming BOTH sugar AND the artificial sweetener chemicals. WTF is this.
The good news here is that I stopped getting even an occasional regular soda and any zero calorie bullshit as well. I just drink water now, teas, and sometimes carbonated water with a tiny cap of apple or coconut vinegar sprinkle for the taste. (makes it tase a bit like kombucha).
I bought some artificially sweetened skyr today because it was on sale. Already regret it but cant waste 5 tubs of skyr as a poorgay