I am a 6'0 227 lb male in his early 20s. I have been this heavy since 18. I've noticed that it is much harder to form friendships, even make simple conversations. At my college campus, while males are easy to chatter with, I have a harder time speaking to women, even non-sexually. Girls avoid making eye contact with me and mostly give one word responses so I just leave them alone. I can't tell if it's cause I'm big, introverted, or both.
Recently I got a job at a retail where I handle returns, and work with other women. After an interaction with a female customer where I had to repeatedly refuse a return because of rules, one colleague told me "We know you are friendly but other people won't know." Apparently I sounded rude. From my perspective I was only performing my job. I am at a Homer Simpson level of fat, but America is pretty fat to this day. Usually I brush negative experiences off but the insecurity is slowly creeping on me. Former fat anons, is it normal to be treated as shit just cause you're fat, and were people friendlier when you lost weight?
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Former skinny fat here. When I started putting on muscle women definitely started treating me better but men started treating me worse.
Are you clean shaven or facial hair?
Men are becoming more catty as testosterone drops
the delusion is so funny to me. you guys are all black pilled incels and say you cant get big natty you cant make gains this and that but regardless of that you are literal beginner dyels lifting for 3 months and suddenly people around you start treating you differently and women just jump on you to have sex with you. this is LITERALLY all in your head. absolutely NOBODY started clearly treating you different in public just by random unless you look like Jeff Seid at minimum.
meds
Youre a fricking moron. 3 months of noobie gains is enough to have broad shoulders and noticable biceps which is what matters in terms of women treating you like a human, other than not being fat. Its dyel and small to gymcels but nobody cares what gymcels think.
Also you seem to believe IST is one person, im not a blackpilled incel.
This is a weird post. Are you perhaps an extra black pilled incel who doesn’t like the slight white pulling if the others?
Unironically same. Men have not treated me worse though, likely because I am a manlet.
Same, but not all men, overall I would say I’m respected more. But there are some guys who have low self esteem and are jealous from being fat or having no muscle. Those types get more testy and try to put you down around others to feel better about themselves.
I notice it more working in an office than in the trades. In the trades strength is respected more. In my office job men act more catty about it, or try to make me look like a “meathead”. People in the trades were surprised I wasn’t a meathead lol.
In the uk a lot of roided mofos work in the trades
In the united states not as much I think, unless you live in LA or NYC
Everywhere else definitely yes
same
this is bullshit, both women and men started treating me better after I started working out and became better looking . You guys just hang around really weird dudes
>is it normal to be treated as shit just cause you're fat, and were people friendlier when you lost weight?
Yeah, Fat people look angry. They are tired from carrying around all of the extra weight.
Facial features start to get distorted at BF% > 12%. You probably look angry or tired or something with all the fat on your face. This only gets worse over time as gravity pulls the fat on your face downward.
yes
people used to literally make fun of me to my face and I had to laugh it off because as an adult you cant just beat people up for making a joke about you and even in a less dramatic response, what, am I gonna be fat AND a sensitive lil b***h that cant take a joke? I got 0 respect. Now I have all the respect, admiration and attention of everyone.
i've been all 3, fat, skinny and now muscular
when you're fat, people don't respect you (yourself included). fats are not people
when you're skinny, nobody cares about you
if you have some muscle, people do treat you differently, with more respect. you will notice 100%
also i was never a fan of fat people, even when i was fat, but after i started lifting, i'm now fatphobic, i have to actually try to not make a disgusted face when i see some very fat individual
AITA?
>AITA
You are a plebbitgay
nah just memeing
but everytime someone here says NTA i think of that shit and makes me laugh
Go back
No one thinks you're superior because you don't go on reddit.com
agreed fat people disgust me. Its beyond their physicality though, the mindset of someone who gets fat as frick permeates through their entire being. Its a sense of entitlement, lack of respect for their surroundings, lack of respect for their hygiene and for themselves in general. Everything happens to them, not because of them. Their life should be nothing but comfort and ease in their opinion. They are passive travelers through life that believe they have no control over the outcome of anything and aren't worth investing effort into. Why the frick WOULD anyone respect a fatass. If you don't believe in yourself nobody else will. Shit I dont believe in like 2/3rds of people that DO believe in themselves.
>that believe they have no control over the outcome of anything
yes, exactly. that's the part that gets me, it's like they're saying "but that's nothing i can do!" even though they didn't try a single thing
that was exactly me when I was fat bro
nothing was my fault, I just get dealt bad hands, no sense of agency or discipline or accountability. Fat people just make for the worst humans that you have to encounter regularly. Youll notice all these things I listed with fat people you have to work with now forever and I promise it will be hard not to rage the frick out on them. At minimum you will find it impossible to treat them with the same level of respect as someone that takes reasonable care about themselves or even just has a modicum of self actualization or core virtues and principles
>males
>women
Frick off
Fatties are usually seen as "the funny, cuddly, trustworthy care bear FRIEND". There are exceptions like if you are a manly scary fat bear and women maybe will get involved into romantic interest with you. Fatties who lose the weight and get slightly more attractive from it notice the change of attitude from others toward them. Stop the cope and lose the weight.
I’m not fat, but yes the fat kids were treated worse growing up. Women especially hate fat men.
Being fat is literally a death sentence for you socially, unless you are strongfat. I dieter down to skelemode and the difference in the way people treat me is night and day. Random people talk to me way more, girls compliment me way more (not my physique lol) and men treat me about the same except I don't get teased for being fat
Former fatty here - used to weigh 350 plus fat, dialed back to 215 lean, then added 50-60 pounds of muscle (fraudin) while staying lean.
I'm 6'4" and an old gay.
Forst off, nobody used to care about the 6 foot thing. Thats a modern thing. Wehn I was young and dating, it appears to have done me no favors. Im assuming it didnt hurt me, but it was not fetishised the way it seems to be now.
Also, when I was fat - ZERO interest from women. The leaner I got, the more my talking and friendliness paid off. As a lean man I did/do okay with women. Women HATE fat men. Like fricking HATE them.
Finally, fat people are disgusting to look at. Esp fat men. Fat women can still be sexy if they ahave a pretty face, big breasts, a fat ass, something. But men are just gross. Frick you fat guys. Its true.
Not OP but no way in hell you're 285 lbs lean
Correct. I'm about 265-270 lean. I have 36 or 38 inch waist with all six abs visible in good light. In normal light you can see 2-4 abs. My lifts are 230 OHP; PL competition squat of 485; powerlifting bench of 375; powerlifting deadlift of 540. I weighed 271 this morning bloated as frick from Christmas party I went to.
I am tall - 6'4 or 5 so I have a good football tight end looking physique. Not a powelifter or bodybuilder looking physique. Muscular but not bodybuilder. Skinny arms for my size, too.
You again? Frick off
I hope your lifts are in kilograms. They're embarrassing for your weight class if that's in pounds.
yes they absolutely are
t. went from fat to fit. ask anyone who has, they will tell you
>Are fat people seen as inferior in public?
No, fat people aren't "seen" as inferior, they factually ARE inferior and people merely observe the reality.
I was 140lbs from high school to the end of college
I'm 300lbs now.... people treat me about the same except I can smell the fear in them. I can do a bunch of shit that I would never get away with when I was a twink.
yes.
went from 300 + down to 190. the difference in interactions was insane and made me sick how shallow and shitty people are. i make a point not to act like them. all it did was make me kind of hate people for being so awful.
just get fit, stay in your lane and be cool