I bought a micellum brick and just today started fruiting it. I hope something comes out because this is my first time and I don't know what am I doing.
I plan on taking a 5mg dose (half of a normal trip) to see how it affects me. I'll have my brother sit me sober too.
>5mg dose
Do you mean 0.5g? Even then, a regular dose is 2g (assuming Golden Teacher or similar). 1g your first time is a fine place to start to get an idea what you're dealing with. Can always go ago two weeks later (tolerance builds up quickly and takes at most two weeks to return to normal).
Shrooms saved my life no joke. I used to be skinny with a gf that does not respect me and could not sit and read a book for more than 15 minutes, was addicted to porn and weed and enjoyed instant gratification. It was a very dark times in my life, I was suicidal and depressed and taking Addereal daily . Since then I have gained 20kg of muscle, started university and able to study 4 continuous hours without pills. Moved to a different country and learned a new language and left my parents hause and broke up with my girl. Now Im very confident ,jacked and working on myself daily to keep improving myself. What happens is that they let you tap into your subconscious mind. Once you control this you can win. It basically lets you program your brain easier, but you need to have a purpose before each trip.
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No but a lot of the shroom bros like to pretend it’s not just recreation use and tell themselves (and others ad nauseum) that it’s some higher reason.
Looking back the vast majority of these types that I knew fell through the cracks. Some like myself broke away and made something of themselves. And a very very small minority still occasionally use and are relatively successful but it’s such a small number that they represent the exceptions that prove the rule.
If you have treatment-resistant depression, severe PTSD or a terminal illness then I can see trying shrooms as a last ditch effort. But I don’t think young otherwise health white men should be doing mushrooms with the idea that it’ll be a fix form their issues. But who knows maybe some will find a moderate lasting sense of motivation that will get them to start living life and trying. I just think that the whole “better living through chemistry” thing is a boomer holdover and not a good mentality. Yes I know various cultures used psychedelics but so what.
Shrooms wont fix your life. (You) will fix your life. But shrooms will help you understand your subconscious mind and will let you be honest with yourself and actually try to fix it.
Take a pen and paper while tripping. Or even typing or talking to a friend, and be honest with yourself. If you can’t write then record yourself. Let go of your ego and stop being arrogant and look at your life from another point of view. Only you can fix your life. The question is what are you willing to go through to get what you want in life?
The thing is, almost everybody knows what they need to do to be on a better path. It’s simple. The difficulty is in making the first step and maintaining momentum and discipline even when you’re not feeling the same ambition and optimism.
Maybe mushrooms can help you take that first step but the reality is you need to be fully committed to the grind not think that a eureka moment will magically place you on the right track and propel you forward.
I agree with this. I've taken shrooms several times, and I've never had any insights that I didn't already have while sober. I'm a very introspective person in general, and I journal a lot, so I don't think shrooms help me very much. I already know what I need to do, I just haven't yet plucked up the strength to do it. Still a fun way to spend a day, though.
your ego prevented you from learning that day. the fact that you said you know what you need to do, just dont have the strength proves it. you have the strength to do anything you set your mind to, the psilocybin helps you cut through the excuses
Shrooms made me see myself in 60 years where I sit on a bench old and crusty. It was pretty emotionally brutal. It pushed me to get my shit together, travel the world, talk to girls etc
How many grams did you do? I'm too much of a pussy to do more than like 3, but my dad had a gooood little stint of mental illness so it seems kind of sketchy.
Just do a mega dose and lock yourself into your room. You can play soft ghibli music or something like that in the background so that it probably won't turn into a bad trip.
>lock yourself into your room
i've always read that you're supposed to go out or some shit, but wouldn't this be the best choice if you want the trip to be therapeutic?
bro if you do a mega dose outside you won't even know where the frick you are. You're not gonna be able to get back home and roll around in the forest for 5 hours
least paranoia potential. you can turn off light and close eyes for best visuals. lower doses are nice euphoriant. good for taking a walk, socializing or reading.
Highest I ever done was 7-8 grams. Shit was strong. Once with a friend and once alone in the forest. It wasn’t pleasant but but at the same time it was one of the best days in my life. Life is this way, its scary and hard but its fun to be alive. You have to put into your mind that you wont die. (You cant overdose on shrooms). Just stop being a pussy. Maybe being a pussy is what is holding you back in life. Take 4-5 grams and have a friend trip sit you. You have nothing to lose.
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Shrooms made me see myself in 60 years where I sit on a bench old and crusty. It was pretty emotionally brutal. It pushed me to get my shit together, travel the world, talk to girls etc
You can be 60 and still be fit and rich. But not the same as when you are in your 20s
Every psychoactive substance, including nicotine, alcohol and weed, can trigger dormant mental illnesses like schizophrenia. Anyone who has serious mental illness in their family should not be messing around with any drugs at all, and not just exclusively stay away from psychedelics
Im this anon
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Shrooms wont fix your life. (You) will fix your life. But shrooms will help you understand your subconscious mind and will let you be honest with yourself and actually try to fix it.
Take a pen and paper while tripping. Or even typing or talking to a friend, and be honest with yourself. If you can’t write then record yourself. Let go of your ego and stop being arrogant and look at your life from another point of view. Only you can fix your life. The question is what are you willing to go through to get what you want in life?
Amazing anon. I've had trips like that, hoping to have another one like that soon. I need some help, a new point of view, a new perspective. I'm stuck in a rut in life.
The thing is, almost everybody knows what they need to do to be on a better path. It’s simple. The difficulty is in making the first step and maintaining momentum and discipline even when you’re not feeling the same ambition and optimism.
Maybe mushrooms can help you take that first step but the reality is you need to be fully committed to the grind not think that a eureka moment will magically place you on the right track and propel you forward.
What you're saying is true but what you're failing to take into account is that when most people give in to their bad (read: self destructive) habits all of that sober conscious deliberation goes out the window. On shrooms or other psychedelics like LSD it gives you an extremely powerful and compelling vision of why you shouldn't engage in self destructive behaviour and why you should engage in productive behaviour, at least if you're lucky. At least that's what happened to me. I knew I had bad habits before trying psychedelics but it never dawned on me just how bad things can be, or on the opposite just how good things can get if you put your mind to it.
You need a destination before starting a journey and psychedelics will give you a hell of a view. If your life is already mostly sorted out then it won't do that for you.
I had the most intense spiritual experience I could ever even dream of with those fungus
That experience made me stop smoking and start doing things... i know it made no sense, but "they" told me to
they told me I could and bowed to me... to me, man.... damn.....
I am at 95kg with 188 now, 36 yo, around 18-20 bf
do a massive dose in a remote place close to nature where is safe to be out for a couple hours
and CLOSE YOUR EYES
dont forget to close your eyes
dont fear the things.. if something appears, look at it as ask "can you tell me where I am?"
ask and they will tell you
helped me with non-obstructive sleep apnea tbh, I can't tell you how much it has changed my life for the better. To be able to get sleep like a human being again is everything.
For the average person? I don’t think so. Yeah you’ll trip and have some profound realization but the next day it’ll be back to normal and those profundities will be forgotten or just seem cringey or uninspiring.
And people who do shrooms regularly are usually losers. If it’s such big medicine then why do you have to repeatedly take it? The mystic swims in the stuff that the drug user drowns in. Don’t look for quick chemical fixes, it’s the same mentality that leads to SSRIs and benzos and other crutches.
I had the most intense spiritual experience I could ever even dream of with those fungus
That experience made me stop smoking and start doing things... i know it made no sense, but "they" told me to
they told me I could and bowed to me... to me, man.... damn.....
I am at 95kg with 188 now, 36 yo, around 18-20 bf
do a massive dose in a remote place close to nature where is safe to be out for a couple hours
and CLOSE YOUR EYES
dont forget to close your eyes
dont fear the things.. if something appears, look at it as ask "can you tell me where I am?"
ask and they will tell you
dont run away
very squizo comment, I know
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Shrooms saved my life no joke. I used to be skinny with a gf that does not respect me and could not sit and read a book for more than 15 minutes, was addicted to porn and weed and enjoyed instant gratification. It was a very dark times in my life, I was suicidal and depressed and taking Addereal daily . Since then I have gained 20kg of muscle, started university and able to study 4 continuous hours without pills. Moved to a different country and learned a new language and left my parents hause and broke up with my girl. Now Im very confident ,jacked and working on myself daily to keep improving myself. What happens is that they let you tap into your subconscious mind. Once you control this you can win. It basically lets you program your brain easier, but you need to have a purpose before each trip.
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shroom enthusiasts sound like they have a firm grip on reality
I’m a professional mycologist and I did shrooms many times when I was younger. I think a lot of people use psychedelics recreationally but under the guise of self exploration.
No but a lot of the shroom bros like to pretend it’s not just recreation use and tell themselves (and others ad nauseum) that it’s some higher reason.
Looking back the vast majority of these types that I knew fell through the cracks. Some like myself broke away and made something of themselves. And a very very small minority still occasionally use and are relatively successful but it’s such a small number that they represent the exceptions that prove the rule.
If you have treatment-resistant depression, severe PTSD or a terminal illness then I can see trying shrooms as a last ditch effort. But I don’t think young otherwise health white men should be doing mushrooms with the idea that it’ll be a fix form their issues. But who knows maybe some will find a moderate lasting sense of motivation that will get them to start living life and trying. I just think that the whole “better living through chemistry” thing is a boomer holdover and not a good mentality. Yes I know various cultures used psychedelics but so what.
We have grown up with traditions taken away from us. Parents absent and no religion to grab on to for guidance. If shrooms is what take us to recover that human aspect that we lack so be it.
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But there is a world of difference between doing Psilocybe in a cultural context vs just doing them and expecting similar results. And that its untrained use is even a marginally adequate substitute for tradition, religion and parenting.
You can’t fill the void with chemicals. Better to take that time, effort and risk and put it towards something with more meaningful and with potential for long lasting benefits.
6 months ago
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>Better to take that time, effort and risk and put it towards something with more meaningful and with potential for long lasting benefits.
Why do you think depressed people don't just "get up and fix their lives"? They are not mentally prepared for that because many reasons. Shrooms can let you unravel your mind and confront those issues. And there are plenty of people who have improved immensely with them and it's not an addictive substance whcih is why you won't see dealers on every corner like with coke or weed. >Better to take that time, effort and risk and put it towards something with more meaningful and with potential for long lasting benefits.
You paint it like doing shrooms is a colossal investment and not just $50 and a sunday of your time. For losers every day is sunday so there is nothing to lose on trying to fix a fricked up mind with chemicals that let you kill your pride and examine yourself in a new light. This pride of not taking drugs is just absurd. It reminds me when I was a teenager and thought I was cool for not drinking alcohol like my friends.
6 months ago
Anonymous
In modern society you should be proud of not taking drugs, illicit and pharmaceutical included. It’s a sign of independence and self sufficiency. As I stated above I did mushrooms quite a bit when I was younger. I’m talking about this as a 30-something-year-old with the benefits of experience, hindsight and critical thinking.
Psilocybe mushrooms do come with a risk especially for people already diagnosed or showing symptoms of mental disorders like depression and anxiety. It’s not just a matter of $20 and a day of tripping, there is a small but real risk for psilocybin and other hallucinogens and people who try to minimize it are just the “dude weed is a panacea” idiots.
Advocating people with depression and other mental illnesses to haphazardly dose themselves is just moronic.
6 months ago
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>In modern society you should be proud of not taking drugs, illicit and pharmaceutical included. It’s a sign of independence and self sufficiency >feeling proud over not doing something
This is, frankly, pretty pathetic, like a vegan that feels proud for not eating meat.
>Psilocybe mushrooms do come with a risk especially for people already diagnosed or showing symptoms of mental disorders like depression and anxiety. It’s not just a matter of $20 and a day of tripping, there is a small but real risk for psilocybin and other hallucinogens and people who try to minimize it are just the “dude weed is a panacea” idiots.
You are talking out of your ass.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9353971/
Here in the results you can see that only 0,2% of users went to the emergency room and they were there only for a bad trip and were fine 24h later. You are just sensationalizing to feel superior to other losers on the internet.
6 months ago
Anonymous
I once knew a guy who jumped out a window on LSD
6 months ago
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happens frequently. nick cave's son jumped to his death on lsd. a friend of mine thought he was lugia on a heavy dose of shrooms and tried to fly off the balcony. you can imagine how that went
I always lol when people say you achieve some wonderous and transcendent insight on psychedelics. I just saw some pretty colors and patterns and thought god's hands were in my brain
6 months ago
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>my subjective experience was shit, therefore it doesn't work
Meanwhile the best hospitals and universities in the world have trials and are seeing very similar results to the positive side, see:
Many recent studies conducted by some of the best hospitals in the world found that about 80% of patients with severe depression were cured of it after only 2 psilocybin trips. Same thing with alcoholism. About 80% of the patients cut their alcohol consumption drastically while 50% quit drinking alcohol alltogether, after only 2 psilocybin trips.
Turns out a drug that makes you think about your life from 50 new perspectives can actually have positive effects
It's one of those things that becomes what you make of it. My first time was wasted watching comedy films with a friend and I gained absolutely nothing from it, because I was an idiot and didn't focus my thoughts on things that actually mattered. That was my fault, not the psilocybin
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I'm not saying it doesn't work, I'm saying that you can't assume that everyone will achieve some kind of transcendence or catharsis. personally I've never gained much from it, even on the more introspective trips. it just reaffirmed what I already knew
6 months ago
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Around 80% of patients in numerous trials are seeing some kind of transcendence and manage to escape severe depression and severe alcoholism. Although these patients are also guided by therapists to make sure their focus doesn't avert. Among regular people who are sitting in their rooms and let their thoughts wander, the percentage is likely much lower than 80.
If you actually are able to focus on things that matter and still gain nothing from it, then you might be one of the 20% of people in trials who remain unaffected for some strange and unknown reason
6 months ago
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>for some strange and unknown reason
It's called low IQ
6 months ago
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could be that. or a genius who has everything figured out. or perhaps their body metabolizes the substance differently, like how some people can't get high from THC edibles. who knows
6 months ago
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Other way around moron. High IQ already know what their issues are and don't gain anything from tripping balls.
6 months ago
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There is more to psychedelics than "sorting out your issues", imagine not wanting to explore the boundaries of reality out of sheer curiosity of what may be, sounds very low IQ to me
6 months ago
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>my subjective experience was shit, therefore it doesn't work
Meanwhile the best hospitals and universities in the world have trials and are seeing very similar results to the positive side, see: [...]
It's one of those things that becomes what you make of it. My first time was wasted watching comedy films with a friend and I gained absolutely nothing from it, because I was an idiot and didn't focus my thoughts on things that actually mattered. That was my fault, not the psilocybin
Many recent studies conducted by some of the best hospitals in the world found that about 80% of patients with severe depression were cured of it after only 2 psilocybin trips. Same thing with alcoholism. About 80% of the patients cut their alcohol consumption drastically while 50% quit drinking alcohol alltogether, after only 2 psilocybin trips.
Turns out a drug that makes you think about your life from 50 new perspectives can actually have positive effects
Holy shit you people are cringe.
Are you tripping in a controlled environment with a therapist present? No?
Then these studies are irrelevant.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Nice all or nothing thought process you have there. I wonder if this thought process is a recurring pattern in your life perhaps.
6 months ago
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>I know somebody who jumped off on LSD
There are cases like this but it's not near common enough to be a concern. Anomalies shouldn't drive your actions, nobody would drive cars.
I'm not saying it doesn't work, I'm saying that you can't assume that everyone will achieve some kind of transcendence or catharsis. personally I've never gained much from it, even on the more introspective trips. it just reaffirmed what I already knew
>I'm saying that you can't assume that everyone will achieve some kind of transcendence or catharsis.
I am speculating here because we need to study psylocibin much more but my theory is that shrooms help people whose egos, for whatever reason, impair them from making good decisions. The ego could also be the cause of mental roadblocks which frick up people with traumas. Shrooms reduce your ego and lets you explore yourself and achieve peace. This is what I think people mean by "trascendental experiences", their ego just melts and lets them see what's behind the curtain.
If you are a person with no traumas or a non-problematic ego then you are not going to feel changed after the trip.
Even if shrooms don't work all the time the risk is non-existant so it can work as a great medicine for mental health.
6 months ago
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>If you are a person with no traumas or a non-problematic ego then you are not going to feel changed after the trip.
Can confirm. Ate it a few times, dealt with the trauma I had been carrying around for many years and after I had dealt with that I didn't really gain anything so I just never saw a reason to use it again. It's a medicine and not everybody needs to be healed
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>whcih is why you won't see dealers on every corner like with coke or weed
How do you find shroom dealers? Recently moved from a place where they're legal (Netherlands) to one where they're illegal (Australia).
shrooms more or less rid me of social anxiety. a bag of shrooms and some psychedlic tracks, and i sat and had a think about my life, and why i do the things that i do, and reason i like/dislike things. why i behave in certain ways to certain people. you realise you cope a lot in your head, unironically. you tell yourself you are doing something for one reason, when deep down you know its something else.
i dont know if it works for everyone, but I am far happier now. i hope that it effects you in a similar way. its like a mental massage. sometimes youre tight in areas you dont even realise.
they cause heart valves fibrosis and might give you hppd or make you nuts or worse turn you into one of these "enhightened" buttholes with huge egos who pollute foras with their idiocy. serotonin psychedelics are overrated and have rather ugly garish, twisted visuals. dissociatives give you brain rot and low key schizo but at least they have extremely nice visions and that feeling of unveiling great secret not that oneness crap. to see effects of widespread serious psychedelic drug use look at mesoamerican cultures. ugly garish styles, insane beliefs and erratic often cruel behavior. stick to weed, old type of it with balanced thc/cbd ratio.
>Moreover, psilocybin intoxication induced systolic dysfunction and takotsubo cardiomyopathy, possibly due to its toxic effect on the cardiomyocytes or strong sympathomimetic effect and interaction with not only serotonergic but also adrenergic and dopaminergic receptors
Mushrooms appeal exclusively to the mediocre. You crave a profound religious experience because you know that without this animating principle you are an idiot. You have no talents or special qualities. Could you even list a single worthwhile thing about yourself that others would describe as noteworthy or positive? You're a black hole of an entity which is why you like this shithole so much. Every reply can be countered with a ready-made meme that is the perfect balance of disaffection and snark. You never need to truly engage in a real dialogue or connection and thus you remain safe. Your like is safe that there is nothing behind your character. You are worthless. You deride normies for being NPCs because they act boisterous and are willing to make a fool of themselves. You don't even have the courage or life experience to do that. Pathetic.
very often is the case. not all psychvusers are bad... better ines are just using it for fun and are not enlightened purists with heads stuck deep into their asses. you know types that will shit in others for mixing shrooms or otger psych with type of drug they dislike almost like it was sacreliegious thing to do. bo ho some people might like to eat 20shrooms and mix it with some codeine or dxm or just play video games while high. i am like get of your high horse bozo... it is them whi need to do soul searching and to grow up
Yes,
Does anyone find the advice >don’t take shrooms when you are in a bad headspace
A BS advice? I personally benefitted from them the most when I was in my dark times. Yeah the trip wasn’t exactly pleasant and euphoric but really gives you a good reset for the brain? It gives me a really good perspective of how fricking pointless it is to be depressed, anxious about things going on in this temporary life and able to face life with a more open, carefree mindset.
God I need a good trip again, trying to procure some from my zoomer neighbor hope he doesn’t frick it up
they've helped me make massive mental gains over the past couple of years. But if you're any bit schizo they're NOT FOR YOU.
I would also advise against doing them if you're under 25.
Set and setting, start with a low dose and feel your way around.
Most importantly, let go and let the mushrooms take you where you need to go.
I did magic truffles in late summer and it was nice, watched some UFC, did some dancing/stretching/shadowboxing to some music and walked my dog. Felt constantly euphoric when I barely experience joy otherwise but no visuals, might have something to do with me cooming to porn in the morning
My first time ever doing shrooms was 3.5 grams and it was great at first. However it went bad and I was sucking on my thumb for about 1-2 hours (Felt like days) saying "We are all we are one" non-stop and in my mind all I could see were various Gods and Prophets throughout history. It was life changing not going to lie.
We were telepathic beings and we were robbed of that characteristic, when Satan established the parasitic hivemind per alcohol and bread/wheat and meat (consumption).
Why did Satan do that?
Because robbing us of telepathy is what made the art of lying possible.
For every 1 person who is like "broo shrooms totally changed my life I stopped being a lazy fat slob and found a job" there are 10 million people who did the same without needing a drug to achieve this.
For every 1 person who is like "broo shrooms totally changed my life I stopped being a lazy fat slob and found a job" there are thousands of psychedelic users who still work part time for minimum wage and have no intention of bettering their life.
Dont ascribe changes in your life to the consumption a specific substance.
good for them, i'm sure they wasted a great deal more time wallowing in their emotional and mental health stagnation than someone who changed their life overnight with psychedelics
You understand when these trials are talking about depression we're talking a life time of shut in repressed emotion that a person has spent their entire life building a brick box around to protect themselves from it
when they say depression they don't mean that one time a girl told you you're ugly or any other form of transient grief. this medicine is undoing life-times worth of habitual self-hate and inability to make positive change. this is a physical neurological disease that has been self-reinforcing for years and years, not bouts of being sad about stuff or feeling sorry for yourself for the first time in your 20s. you're expecting everyone to be able to suddenly break all their habits and start running to the gym or being overall nicer to everyone overnight while in this extremely deteriorated mental condition
psychedelic therapy can light a serious fire under your ass and I can't imagine any of these substances responsibly used and integrated therapeutically could ever allow someone to maintain any kind of patheric depressed mindset for the weeks following the experience. your brain is literally forced in a mode of learning and change and acceptance, and the experience itself forces humility and submission to something wildly out of your control rather than the constant narcissistic defiance of the true state of things and the true state of yourself if you're truly, deeply depressed or traumatized.
it just takes what is already there and exposes it. if you feel that way it's likely that deep down you always felt that way and your current opposing views are some sort of cope that sprung up somewhere along the line. You could live that way your whole life or you could find peace with yourself. If you really well and truly are not a liberal it won't make you any more of one at all. I believe we see what we see and then make the narrative to rationalise it. You can't convince yourself of something you truly believe to be false
I quit drinking and smoking weed and started running more after 3 or 4 heavy trips. My last heavy trip (5+ grams) was over a year ago and I have no plans to take any more shrooms in the foreseeable future
Way less "realistic" and reality bending for me, 5g of shrooms just made me really sleepy and the effects slightly stronger than, say, 3g, but on 300ųg of acid I completely forgot what time is and eventually the trip got so strong that it looked as if it was no longer in my head, but it was reality itself that was being manipulated, completely sober in the head, yet my world was blown away like dust right in front of my eyes, shit was wild.
I don't really think there is a point. It just is. It's human nature that makes us find a narrative and conclusion
And that is the point, to just be, you're alive, experience, good or bad doesn't matter, life can't exist without both, paranoia or vomiting who cares, it's all part of being human, let out what inside and do not fear, because fear is the mind killer.
weirder, groovier, more organic, animal, insectoid, or humanoid visuals. breathing slow pulsating fractal living organic machinery making up all things, a brightly shining message shared among most users that all DNA is interlinked and that we're just part of a greater existence-simulating, infinitely self-replicating cloud computer network that is DNA, and that all experience of all life, ever is contained in that miraculous chain of amino acids, only 1% of which defines the human genome.
intensely intimate awareness of all biological functions in your body at all times. everything is simultaneously incredibly uncomfortable, incredibly sexual, and warm like a truly loving hug. intense diagnostic hard-drive cleanup mode for your brain. total spiritual emotional and physical refreshment and renewal for weeks after. I cannot imagine a more powerful catalyst for positive change in someone's life or a less self-destructive way to have a fire lit under your ass if you're stagnating in some kind of self-hating depression. losing all your money and jobs and freinds and alienating yourself from real life to cope might eventually allow you to have so little to lose that you begin taking risks and making change, otherwise an evening with some of the free-est medicine on earth could achieve the same thing harmlessly while making it impossible to feel sorry for yourself for the following week.
not super experienced but LSD imo is only good for microdosing, i've never felt like i gained any profound insights to my mind or that i was left with any kind of life changing solutions to my problems. it's fun, it goes hard, but I wouldnt sit in a dark room trying to "get" something out of it. go get laid and party on it, but ruminating on your mind or the nature of reality on LSD is how you lose your fricking mind forever, I would urge intensely against large doses taken alone with some kind of "intent" as is normal and safe with mushrooms.
weirder, groovier, more organic, animal, insectoid, or humanoid visuals. breathing slow pulsating fractal living organic machinery making up all things, a brightly shining message shared among most users that all DNA is interlinked and that we're just part of a greater existence-simulating, infinitely self-replicating cloud computer network that is DNA, and that all experience of all life, ever is contained in that miraculous chain of amino acids, only 1% of which defines the human genome.
intensely intimate awareness of all biological functions in your body at all times. everything is simultaneously incredibly uncomfortable, incredibly sexual, and warm like a truly loving hug. intense diagnostic hard-drive cleanup mode for your brain. total spiritual emotional and physical refreshment and renewal for weeks after. I cannot imagine a more powerful catalyst for positive change in someone's life or a less self-destructive way to have a fire lit under your ass if you're stagnating in some kind of self-hating depression. losing all your money and jobs and freinds and alienating yourself from real life to cope might eventually allow you to have so little to lose that you begin taking risks and making change, otherwise an evening with some of the free-est medicine on earth could achieve the same thing harmlessly while making it impossible to feel sorry for yourself for the following week.
not super experienced but LSD imo is only good for microdosing, i've never felt like i gained any profound insights to my mind or that i was left with any kind of life changing solutions to my problems. it's fun, it goes hard, but I wouldnt sit in a dark room trying to "get" something out of it. go get laid and party on it, but ruminating on your mind or the nature of reality on LSD is how you lose your fricking mind forever, I would urge intensely against large doses taken alone with some kind of "intent" as is normal and safe with mushrooms.
I had these experiences on both. The oneness and sense of universal unity was especially strong when I mixed in MDMA. Other than that, the visuals are definitely more organic on shrooms. Like "natural" patterns. Acid visuals are robotic or something. I definitely felt like my body and mind accepted the shrooms much easier than the acid. Acid always gave me an intense and slightly uncomfortable body load, like one minute you'll feel slightly electric/buzzed/tweaking, the next you'll feel like you're floating, the next you'll feel really heavy and slow. It constantly interrupts what could otherwise be a very smooth introspective train of thought, because the mental clarity on acid is next level. It's a slight stimulant so you get those revelations a mile a minute.
Shrooms are way more relaxed and comfortable, and the thoughts you get on it are way more realistic and grounded and applicable in my experience. I also had a lot more empathy and entactogen effect on shrooms.
Good and bad are subjective human terms, there is no good or bad when tripping, it's just tripping, an exploration of the unconcious mind and the fundamental laws of reality, looking at it through a black&white lens means you missed the point
I really want to try mushrooms but I have no idea where to get them or make them. I would like to buy a mycelium brick but I'm worries the package could get me in trouble with the police.
Does anyone have something kind of DIY on how to grow shrooms?
It's so frickin easy bro but you will get drowned in a sea of pointless information trying to learn. It depends how much effort you're willing to put in though. You will have to learn the basic concepts of a mushrooms life cycle, what it needs and how to not contaminate it before you get there. I grew more complicated exotics on my first try, no regrets but its considerably more effort for a noob. It can honestly be as easy as injecting spores into a bag of rice. There's reasons not to do it that way as far as efficiency but it definitely works fine if you're just looking to try it.
just made me abnormally introspective and made me see vivid colors. and made me unable to properly control the muscles in my face
i was hoping for hallucinations but no dice
>are hallucinogens that actively mess with how your mind perceives reality good for you?
idk man you tell me, careful not to frick something up while tripping balls, junkie
Many recent studies conducted by some of the best hospitals in the world found that about 80% of patients with severe depression were cured of it after only 2 psilocybin trips. Same thing with alcoholism. About 80% of the patients cut their alcohol consumption drastically while 50% quit drinking alcohol alltogether, after only 2 psilocybin trips.
Turns out a drug that makes you think about your life from 50 new perspectives can actually have positive effects
The whole schizophrenic shit is not a sure thing even with it in your family
It’s probability but not certainty
Even the stupid docs don’t get this because they’re just told to tell people not to do it
They won’t show you stats
Look them up yourself
There’s a probability anyway if the family history is there so you’re just making another dice roll on the first one
People take the shroomies usually once in a blue moon it doesn’t have the same proclivity for abuse like LSD
I bet the only studies they’ve done are in countries that have made them quasi legal and there’s all kind of other shit in there that makes no sense to someone who takes drugs
Like they’re sample population is so group of total shitbags that do heroin and other crap
Needs more data and less slanted studies guaranteed
opiates like heroin are pretty based. they're like the anti-psychedelic. they don't give you any insight, they don't put you through the wringer. they just let you make peace with everything. it's a fake and fleeting armistice of course
Do you remember what the percentages were? Doing mushrooms helped me tremendously, but honestly if I had schizos in my family and even if there was only a 5% chance of developing schizphrenia I would not have done it, even knowing how much it helped. It sucks that some people are disqualified from using what is essentially a super mental health medication, but there are other ways to fight depression and anxiety without running the risk of ending up in schizo hell
Asking questions doesn't imply trust, you dork. If he gives me percentages, of course I'll look it up myself to verify. If he doesn't, I don't really give enough of a shit to start digging
It's the only class of drug that has a net positive effect on the user. Every other drug is used as a form of escapism. Psychedelics does the exact opposite and forces you to confront whatever problems you have. The abuse potential is almost the smallest of any class of drug but still there are idiots out there who manage to abuse it. Usually these people are already mentally ill and their existing delusions are amplified by the drug
Different types of mushroom and different ways of ingesting and provide different results for instance I noticed caramels and chocolates which are legal ish provide a body high without actually creating any type of visuals or really getting you more High than say a joint or something but if you're doing straight drive dark blue mushrooms you could be essentially a statue for for Plus hours and for that I would recommend a highly scenic view during the day the hardcore mushroom trip really really plays on light and you notice Natural Forces very differently you notice animals and things very differently the animals for instance will treat you differently the mushroom trip for me doesn't really begin until you encounter some weird little animal and it just kind of starts messing with you
I will say many people who do mushrooms avoid LSD because they feel less in control but for me it is completely the opposite any type of anxiety any type of pressure is much worse on mushrooms and you kind of have to sit still and go through it otherwise you'll either not really get high kind of just feel heavy and a little bit disoriented or in my case you can't even walk into a store for how crazy you know that you look and feel but on LSD it's a perfect City Drug I mean the lights are more Lighty at night the feelings of a crisp Breeze or I've done it in a sauna at night they relaxation of warmth and steam and all this it is all taken up to 11 so mushrooms on top of a mountain LSD in the city
If you have a loose grasp on logic, psychodelics aren't for you. Some people have trouble dealing with the fact that their perception is being completely changed within an hour. Obviously it isn't as extreme as acid, but it can be beneficial due to the fact that the serotonin dump will eventually make you sad enough to reflect on why you aren't doing what you need to. I just think they are fun with few downsides if you don't do them often. They are clearly poison and your body is rejecting them
OP here, yes they are. Nice post btw
They can be but you have to check for mental disease history in your family, and take set and setting really seriously.
Do it with a sober and trustworthy trip sitter at home, you can have an intention but no fixed expectation.
Yeah love em, start small and work your way up.
>have an intention but no fixed expectation
This is probably more important than the trip sitter imo
I bought a micellum brick and just today started fruiting it. I hope something comes out because this is my first time and I don't know what am I doing.
I plan on taking a 5mg dose (half of a normal trip) to see how it affects me. I'll have my brother sit me sober too.
>5mg dose
Do you mean 0.5g? Even then, a regular dose is 2g (assuming Golden Teacher or similar). 1g your first time is a fine place to start to get an idea what you're dealing with. Can always go ago two weeks later (tolerance builds up quickly and takes at most two weeks to return to normal).
Yeah, was able to get off SSRIs for like 6 months after taking less than 1g. Haven't been nearly as anxious since then and that was over a year ago
Like said, do NOT take them if your family has a history of schizophrenia. Make sure youre calm before you take them
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I WOULD ARGUE IT IS TO SOME
Shrooms saved my life no joke. I used to be skinny with a gf that does not respect me and could not sit and read a book for more than 15 minutes, was addicted to porn and weed and enjoyed instant gratification. It was a very dark times in my life, I was suicidal and depressed and taking Addereal daily . Since then I have gained 20kg of muscle, started university and able to study 4 continuous hours without pills. Moved to a different country and learned a new language and left my parents hause and broke up with my girl. Now Im very confident ,jacked and working on myself daily to keep improving myself. What happens is that they let you tap into your subconscious mind. Once you control this you can win. It basically lets you program your brain easier, but you need to have a purpose before each trip.
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Excellent. Shrooms can be an incredible gift in the right hands.
You still have to die someday, though.
What a moron outlook.
Im this anon
Shrooms wont fix your life. (You) will fix your life. But shrooms will help you understand your subconscious mind and will let you be honest with yourself and actually try to fix it.
Take a pen and paper while tripping. Or even typing or talking to a friend, and be honest with yourself. If you can’t write then record yourself. Let go of your ego and stop being arrogant and look at your life from another point of view. Only you can fix your life. The question is what are you willing to go through to get what you want in life?
The thing is, almost everybody knows what they need to do to be on a better path. It’s simple. The difficulty is in making the first step and maintaining momentum and discipline even when you’re not feeling the same ambition and optimism.
Maybe mushrooms can help you take that first step but the reality is you need to be fully committed to the grind not think that a eureka moment will magically place you on the right track and propel you forward.
I agree with this. I've taken shrooms several times, and I've never had any insights that I didn't already have while sober. I'm a very introspective person in general, and I journal a lot, so I don't think shrooms help me very much. I already know what I need to do, I just haven't yet plucked up the strength to do it. Still a fun way to spend a day, though.
your ego prevented you from learning that day. the fact that you said you know what you need to do, just dont have the strength proves it. you have the strength to do anything you set your mind to, the psilocybin helps you cut through the excuses
Shrooms made me see myself in 60 years where I sit on a bench old and crusty. It was pretty emotionally brutal. It pushed me to get my shit together, travel the world, talk to girls etc
How many grams did you do? I'm too much of a pussy to do more than like 3, but my dad had a gooood little stint of mental illness so it seems kind of sketchy.
Just do a mega dose and lock yourself into your room. You can play soft ghibli music or something like that in the background so that it probably won't turn into a bad trip.
Either way you will learn something new that day
>lock yourself into your room
i've always read that you're supposed to go out or some shit, but wouldn't this be the best choice if you want the trip to be therapeutic?
bro if you do a mega dose outside you won't even know where the frick you are. You're not gonna be able to get back home and roll around in the forest for 5 hours
least paranoia potential. you can turn off light and close eyes for best visuals. lower doses are nice euphoriant. good for taking a walk, socializing or reading.
Highest I ever done was 7-8 grams. Shit was strong. Once with a friend and once alone in the forest. It wasn’t pleasant but but at the same time it was one of the best days in my life. Life is this way, its scary and hard but its fun to be alive. You have to put into your mind that you wont die. (You cant overdose on shrooms). Just stop being a pussy. Maybe being a pussy is what is holding you back in life. Take 4-5 grams and have a friend trip sit you. You have nothing to lose.
You can be 60 and still be fit and rich. But not the same as when you are in your 20s
>Take 4-5 grams and have a friend trip sit you. You have nothing to lose
you do lol. some people go insane (connor murphy) from doing psychedelics.
Connor fried himself on DMT, you can't fry yourself on shrooms unless you're taking 10g+ every session or your family has a history of schizophrenia
Every psychoactive substance, including nicotine, alcohol and weed, can trigger dormant mental illnesses like schizophrenia. Anyone who has serious mental illness in their family should not be messing around with any drugs at all, and not just exclusively stay away from psychedelics
Amazing anon. I've had trips like that, hoping to have another one like that soon. I need some help, a new point of view, a new perspective. I'm stuck in a rut in life.
What you're saying is true but what you're failing to take into account is that when most people give in to their bad (read: self destructive) habits all of that sober conscious deliberation goes out the window. On shrooms or other psychedelics like LSD it gives you an extremely powerful and compelling vision of why you shouldn't engage in self destructive behaviour and why you should engage in productive behaviour, at least if you're lucky. At least that's what happened to me. I knew I had bad habits before trying psychedelics but it never dawned on me just how bad things can be, or on the opposite just how good things can get if you put your mind to it.
You need a destination before starting a journey and psychedelics will give you a hell of a view. If your life is already mostly sorted out then it won't do that for you.
I'm more of an lad guy never felt ready for these when I was in the scene
yes
I had the most intense spiritual experience I could ever even dream of with those fungus
That experience made me stop smoking and start doing things... i know it made no sense, but "they" told me to
they told me I could and bowed to me... to me, man.... damn.....
I am at 95kg with 188 now, 36 yo, around 18-20 bf
do a massive dose in a remote place close to nature where is safe to be out for a couple hours
and CLOSE YOUR EYES
dont forget to close your eyes
dont fear the things.. if something appears, look at it as ask "can you tell me where I am?"
ask and they will tell you
dont run away
very squizo comment, I know
Yes microdosing does more for my depression then anything else.
helped me with non-obstructive sleep apnea tbh, I can't tell you how much it has changed my life for the better. To be able to get sleep like a human being again is everything.
Happy for you bro sleep is one of the most important things in life
For the average person? I don’t think so. Yeah you’ll trip and have some profound realization but the next day it’ll be back to normal and those profundities will be forgotten or just seem cringey or uninspiring.
And people who do shrooms regularly are usually losers. If it’s such big medicine then why do you have to repeatedly take it? The mystic swims in the stuff that the drug user drowns in. Don’t look for quick chemical fixes, it’s the same mentality that leads to SSRIs and benzos and other crutches.
shroom deniers sound mentally ill
shroom enthusiasts sound like they have a firm grip on reality
I'm in
I’m a professional mycologist and I did shrooms many times when I was younger. I think a lot of people use psychedelics recreationally but under the guise of self exploration.
Not mutually exclusive intentions
No but a lot of the shroom bros like to pretend it’s not just recreation use and tell themselves (and others ad nauseum) that it’s some higher reason.
Looking back the vast majority of these types that I knew fell through the cracks. Some like myself broke away and made something of themselves. And a very very small minority still occasionally use and are relatively successful but it’s such a small number that they represent the exceptions that prove the rule.
If you have treatment-resistant depression, severe PTSD or a terminal illness then I can see trying shrooms as a last ditch effort. But I don’t think young otherwise health white men should be doing mushrooms with the idea that it’ll be a fix form their issues. But who knows maybe some will find a moderate lasting sense of motivation that will get them to start living life and trying. I just think that the whole “better living through chemistry” thing is a boomer holdover and not a good mentality. Yes I know various cultures used psychedelics but so what.
>as a hwhite man
We have grown up with traditions taken away from us. Parents absent and no religion to grab on to for guidance. If shrooms is what take us to recover that human aspect that we lack so be it.
But there is a world of difference between doing Psilocybe in a cultural context vs just doing them and expecting similar results. And that its untrained use is even a marginally adequate substitute for tradition, religion and parenting.
You can’t fill the void with chemicals. Better to take that time, effort and risk and put it towards something with more meaningful and with potential for long lasting benefits.
>Better to take that time, effort and risk and put it towards something with more meaningful and with potential for long lasting benefits.
Why do you think depressed people don't just "get up and fix their lives"? They are not mentally prepared for that because many reasons. Shrooms can let you unravel your mind and confront those issues. And there are plenty of people who have improved immensely with them and it's not an addictive substance whcih is why you won't see dealers on every corner like with coke or weed.
>Better to take that time, effort and risk and put it towards something with more meaningful and with potential for long lasting benefits.
You paint it like doing shrooms is a colossal investment and not just $50 and a sunday of your time. For losers every day is sunday so there is nothing to lose on trying to fix a fricked up mind with chemicals that let you kill your pride and examine yourself in a new light. This pride of not taking drugs is just absurd. It reminds me when I was a teenager and thought I was cool for not drinking alcohol like my friends.
In modern society you should be proud of not taking drugs, illicit and pharmaceutical included. It’s a sign of independence and self sufficiency. As I stated above I did mushrooms quite a bit when I was younger. I’m talking about this as a 30-something-year-old with the benefits of experience, hindsight and critical thinking.
Psilocybe mushrooms do come with a risk especially for people already diagnosed or showing symptoms of mental disorders like depression and anxiety. It’s not just a matter of $20 and a day of tripping, there is a small but real risk for psilocybin and other hallucinogens and people who try to minimize it are just the “dude weed is a panacea” idiots.
Advocating people with depression and other mental illnesses to haphazardly dose themselves is just moronic.
>In modern society you should be proud of not taking drugs, illicit and pharmaceutical included. It’s a sign of independence and self sufficiency
>feeling proud over not doing something
This is, frankly, pretty pathetic, like a vegan that feels proud for not eating meat.
>Psilocybe mushrooms do come with a risk especially for people already diagnosed or showing symptoms of mental disorders like depression and anxiety. It’s not just a matter of $20 and a day of tripping, there is a small but real risk for psilocybin and other hallucinogens and people who try to minimize it are just the “dude weed is a panacea” idiots.
You are talking out of your ass.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9353971/
Here in the results you can see that only 0,2% of users went to the emergency room and they were there only for a bad trip and were fine 24h later. You are just sensationalizing to feel superior to other losers on the internet.
I once knew a guy who jumped out a window on LSD
happens frequently. nick cave's son jumped to his death on lsd. a friend of mine thought he was lugia on a heavy dose of shrooms and tried to fly off the balcony. you can imagine how that went
I always lol when people say you achieve some wonderous and transcendent insight on psychedelics. I just saw some pretty colors and patterns and thought god's hands were in my brain
>my subjective experience was shit, therefore it doesn't work
Meanwhile the best hospitals and universities in the world have trials and are seeing very similar results to the positive side, see:
It's one of those things that becomes what you make of it. My first time was wasted watching comedy films with a friend and I gained absolutely nothing from it, because I was an idiot and didn't focus my thoughts on things that actually mattered. That was my fault, not the psilocybin
I'm not saying it doesn't work, I'm saying that you can't assume that everyone will achieve some kind of transcendence or catharsis. personally I've never gained much from it, even on the more introspective trips. it just reaffirmed what I already knew
Around 80% of patients in numerous trials are seeing some kind of transcendence and manage to escape severe depression and severe alcoholism. Although these patients are also guided by therapists to make sure their focus doesn't avert. Among regular people who are sitting in their rooms and let their thoughts wander, the percentage is likely much lower than 80.
If you actually are able to focus on things that matter and still gain nothing from it, then you might be one of the 20% of people in trials who remain unaffected for some strange and unknown reason
>for some strange and unknown reason
It's called low IQ
could be that. or a genius who has everything figured out. or perhaps their body metabolizes the substance differently, like how some people can't get high from THC edibles. who knows
Other way around moron. High IQ already know what their issues are and don't gain anything from tripping balls.
There is more to psychedelics than "sorting out your issues", imagine not wanting to explore the boundaries of reality out of sheer curiosity of what may be, sounds very low IQ to me
Holy shit you people are cringe.
Are you tripping in a controlled environment with a therapist present? No?
Then these studies are irrelevant.
Nice all or nothing thought process you have there. I wonder if this thought process is a recurring pattern in your life perhaps.
>I know somebody who jumped off on LSD
There are cases like this but it's not near common enough to be a concern. Anomalies shouldn't drive your actions, nobody would drive cars.
>I'm saying that you can't assume that everyone will achieve some kind of transcendence or catharsis.
I am speculating here because we need to study psylocibin much more but my theory is that shrooms help people whose egos, for whatever reason, impair them from making good decisions. The ego could also be the cause of mental roadblocks which frick up people with traumas. Shrooms reduce your ego and lets you explore yourself and achieve peace. This is what I think people mean by "trascendental experiences", their ego just melts and lets them see what's behind the curtain.
If you are a person with no traumas or a non-problematic ego then you are not going to feel changed after the trip.
Even if shrooms don't work all the time the risk is non-existant so it can work as a great medicine for mental health.
>If you are a person with no traumas or a non-problematic ego then you are not going to feel changed after the trip.
Can confirm. Ate it a few times, dealt with the trauma I had been carrying around for many years and after I had dealt with that I didn't really gain anything so I just never saw a reason to use it again. It's a medicine and not everybody needs to be healed
>whcih is why you won't see dealers on every corner like with coke or weed
How do you find shroom dealers? Recently moved from a place where they're legal (Netherlands) to one where they're illegal (Australia).
shrooms more or less rid me of social anxiety. a bag of shrooms and some psychedlic tracks, and i sat and had a think about my life, and why i do the things that i do, and reason i like/dislike things. why i behave in certain ways to certain people. you realise you cope a lot in your head, unironically. you tell yourself you are doing something for one reason, when deep down you know its something else.
i dont know if it works for everyone, but I am far happier now. i hope that it effects you in a similar way. its like a mental massage. sometimes youre tight in areas you dont even realise.
they cause heart valves fibrosis and might give you hppd or make you nuts or worse turn you into one of these "enhightened" buttholes with huge egos who pollute foras with their idiocy. serotonin psychedelics are overrated and have rather ugly garish, twisted visuals. dissociatives give you brain rot and low key schizo but at least they have extremely nice visions and that feeling of unveiling great secret not that oneness crap. to see effects of widespread serious psychedelic drug use look at mesoamerican cultures. ugly garish styles, insane beliefs and erratic often cruel behavior. stick to weed, old type of it with balanced thc/cbd ratio.
Source: my ass
Read this paper it’s pretty interesting:
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s43440-023-00539-4
>Moreover, psilocybin intoxication induced systolic dysfunction and takotsubo cardiomyopathy, possibly due to its toxic effect on the cardiomyocytes or strong sympathomimetic effect and interaction with not only serotonergic but also adrenergic and dopaminergic receptors
>they cause heart valves fibrosis
Says who
No.
they definitely didn't change my life but i like listening to music while tripping
Mushrooms appeal exclusively to the mediocre. You crave a profound religious experience because you know that without this animating principle you are an idiot. You have no talents or special qualities. Could you even list a single worthwhile thing about yourself that others would describe as noteworthy or positive? You're a black hole of an entity which is why you like this shithole so much. Every reply can be countered with a ready-made meme that is the perfect balance of disaffection and snark. You never need to truly engage in a real dialogue or connection and thus you remain safe. Your like is safe that there is nothing behind your character. You are worthless. You deride normies for being NPCs because they act boisterous and are willing to make a fool of themselves. You don't even have the courage or life experience to do that. Pathetic.
This guy gets it.
If that guy says it's bad if you disagree with him and that makes you a loser then I agree with him because I'm not a loser
very often is the case. not all psychvusers are bad... better ines are just using it for fun and are not enlightened purists with heads stuck deep into their asses. you know types that will shit in others for mixing shrooms or otger psych with type of drug they dislike almost like it was sacreliegious thing to do. bo ho some people might like to eat 20shrooms and mix it with some codeine or dxm or just play video games while high. i am like get of your high horse bozo... it is them whi need to do soul searching and to grow up
I didn't read any of it Black person
So butthurt when people have to comment that they didn’t read a post that would most likely offend them kek
Maybe, but I will never find out
For every time you don’t read it, I’ll read it twice.
i just like getting high off off shrooms very religious i know
I'm gonna turn this into a spicy pasta simply by changing the word "mushrooms"
what are you gonna change it to
You've been punished too much.
>here, take this thing that has a 50% chance to completely alter your personality
no
You will eat the shrooms and you will be happy.
Yes,
Does anyone find the advice
>don’t take shrooms when you are in a bad headspace
A BS advice? I personally benefitted from them the most when I was in my dark times. Yeah the trip wasn’t exactly pleasant and euphoric but really gives you a good reset for the brain? It gives me a really good perspective of how fricking pointless it is to be depressed, anxious about things going on in this temporary life and able to face life with a more open, carefree mindset.
God I need a good trip again, trying to procure some from my zoomer neighbor hope he doesn’t frick it up
they've helped me make massive mental gains over the past couple of years. But if you're any bit schizo they're NOT FOR YOU.
I would also advise against doing them if you're under 25.
Set and setting, start with a low dose and feel your way around.
Most importantly, let go and let the mushrooms take you where you need to go.
Define schizo
I did magic truffles in late summer and it was nice, watched some UFC, did some dancing/stretching/shadowboxing to some music and walked my dog. Felt constantly euphoric when I barely experience joy otherwise but no visuals, might have something to do with me cooming to porn in the morning
yes, but only if you do megadoses alone in a dark quiet space. otherwise the aliens won't come
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My first time ever doing shrooms was 3.5 grams and it was great at first. However it went bad and I was sucking on my thumb for about 1-2 hours (Felt like days) saying "We are all we are one" non-stop and in my mind all I could see were various Gods and Prophets throughout history. It was life changing not going to lie.
sounds zased
Shroom sensei force-feeds you the truth, which resides within always.
Shroom sensei wants us to overcome the parasitic hivemind, which is Satan, consisting of Candida Albicans mostly.
Shroom sensei wants us to fully utilize our pineal gland/third eye, receiver of truthful thought.
Shroom sensei is Satans biggest nightmare.
Shroom sensei makes you realize that it was lie versus truth since the beginning of time.
Shroom sensei teaches you that truth is the only unifying tool of existence.
Shroom sensei teached me, that all of the Monads children are obligated to clean the temple, which is our body.
We were telepathic beings and we were robbed of that characteristic, when Satan established the parasitic hivemind per alcohol and bread/wheat and meat (consumption).
Why did Satan do that?
Because robbing us of telepathy is what made the art of lying possible.
Lying is the root of all suffering.
For every 1 person who is like "broo shrooms totally changed my life I stopped being a lazy fat slob and found a job" there are 10 million people who did the same without needing a drug to achieve this.
For every 1 person who is like "broo shrooms totally changed my life I stopped being a lazy fat slob and found a job" there are thousands of psychedelic users who still work part time for minimum wage and have no intention of bettering their life.
Dont ascribe changes in your life to the consumption a specific substance.
is working part time for minimum wage that bad?
no it's based. Frick the matrix
hell yeah brother
Hell motherfricking yeah brother
It is when you're in your 30s
good for them, i'm sure they wasted a great deal more time wallowing in their emotional and mental health stagnation than someone who changed their life overnight with psychedelics
You understand when these trials are talking about depression we're talking a life time of shut in repressed emotion that a person has spent their entire life building a brick box around to protect themselves from it
when they say depression they don't mean that one time a girl told you you're ugly or any other form of transient grief. this medicine is undoing life-times worth of habitual self-hate and inability to make positive change. this is a physical neurological disease that has been self-reinforcing for years and years, not bouts of being sad about stuff or feeling sorry for yourself for the first time in your 20s. you're expecting everyone to be able to suddenly break all their habits and start running to the gym or being overall nicer to everyone overnight while in this extremely deteriorated mental condition
psychedelic therapy can light a serious fire under your ass and I can't imagine any of these substances responsibly used and integrated therapeutically could ever allow someone to maintain any kind of patheric depressed mindset for the weeks following the experience. your brain is literally forced in a mode of learning and change and acceptance, and the experience itself forces humility and submission to something wildly out of your control rather than the constant narcissistic defiance of the true state of things and the true state of yourself if you're truly, deeply depressed or traumatized.
Ive had fun, good time
yeah if you want liberal views on life. it rearranges your thoughts on a lot of things you feel concrete about.
it just takes what is already there and exposes it. if you feel that way it's likely that deep down you always felt that way and your current opposing views are some sort of cope that sprung up somewhere along the line. You could live that way your whole life or you could find peace with yourself. If you really well and truly are not a liberal it won't make you any more of one at all. I believe we see what we see and then make the narrative to rationalise it. You can't convince yourself of something you truly believe to be false
I quit drinking and smoking weed and started running more after 3 or 4 heavy trips. My last heavy trip (5+ grams) was over a year ago and I have no plans to take any more shrooms in the foreseeable future
LSD and shroom takers are so annoying. I just take it for the cool colours.
How do they compare to LSD?
Way less "realistic" and reality bending for me, 5g of shrooms just made me really sleepy and the effects slightly stronger than, say, 3g, but on 300ųg of acid I completely forgot what time is and eventually the trip got so strong that it looked as if it was no longer in my head, but it was reality itself that was being manipulated, completely sober in the head, yet my world was blown away like dust right in front of my eyes, shit was wild.
And that is the point, to just be, you're alive, experience, good or bad doesn't matter, life can't exist without both, paranoia or vomiting who cares, it's all part of being human, let out what inside and do not fear, because fear is the mind killer.
weirder, groovier, more organic, animal, insectoid, or humanoid visuals. breathing slow pulsating fractal living organic machinery making up all things, a brightly shining message shared among most users that all DNA is interlinked and that we're just part of a greater existence-simulating, infinitely self-replicating cloud computer network that is DNA, and that all experience of all life, ever is contained in that miraculous chain of amino acids, only 1% of which defines the human genome.
intensely intimate awareness of all biological functions in your body at all times. everything is simultaneously incredibly uncomfortable, incredibly sexual, and warm like a truly loving hug. intense diagnostic hard-drive cleanup mode for your brain. total spiritual emotional and physical refreshment and renewal for weeks after. I cannot imagine a more powerful catalyst for positive change in someone's life or a less self-destructive way to have a fire lit under your ass if you're stagnating in some kind of self-hating depression. losing all your money and jobs and freinds and alienating yourself from real life to cope might eventually allow you to have so little to lose that you begin taking risks and making change, otherwise an evening with some of the free-est medicine on earth could achieve the same thing harmlessly while making it impossible to feel sorry for yourself for the following week.
not super experienced but LSD imo is only good for microdosing, i've never felt like i gained any profound insights to my mind or that i was left with any kind of life changing solutions to my problems. it's fun, it goes hard, but I wouldnt sit in a dark room trying to "get" something out of it. go get laid and party on it, but ruminating on your mind or the nature of reality on LSD is how you lose your fricking mind forever, I would urge intensely against large doses taken alone with some kind of "intent" as is normal and safe with mushrooms.
I had these experiences on both. The oneness and sense of universal unity was especially strong when I mixed in MDMA. Other than that, the visuals are definitely more organic on shrooms. Like "natural" patterns. Acid visuals are robotic or something. I definitely felt like my body and mind accepted the shrooms much easier than the acid. Acid always gave me an intense and slightly uncomfortable body load, like one minute you'll feel slightly electric/buzzed/tweaking, the next you'll feel like you're floating, the next you'll feel really heavy and slow. It constantly interrupts what could otherwise be a very smooth introspective train of thought, because the mental clarity on acid is next level. It's a slight stimulant so you get those revelations a mile a minute.
Shrooms are way more relaxed and comfortable, and the thoughts you get on it are way more realistic and grounded and applicable in my experience. I also had a lot more empathy and entactogen effect on shrooms.
Good and bad are subjective human terms, there is no good or bad when tripping, it's just tripping, an exploration of the unconcious mind and the fundamental laws of reality, looking at it through a black&white lens means you missed the point
I don't really think there is a point. It just is. It's human nature that makes us find a narrative and conclusion
I really want to try mushrooms but I have no idea where to get them or make them. I would like to buy a mycelium brick but I'm worries the package could get me in trouble with the police.
Does anyone have something kind of DIY on how to grow shrooms?
It's so frickin easy bro but you will get drowned in a sea of pointless information trying to learn. It depends how much effort you're willing to put in though. You will have to learn the basic concepts of a mushrooms life cycle, what it needs and how to not contaminate it before you get there. I grew more complicated exotics on my first try, no regrets but its considerably more effort for a noob. It can honestly be as easy as injecting spores into a bag of rice. There's reasons not to do it that way as far as efficiency but it definitely works fine if you're just looking to try it.
i tried them and it kinda sucked
just made me abnormally introspective and made me see vivid colors. and made me unable to properly control the muscles in my face
i was hoping for hallucinations but no dice
>are hallucinogens that actively mess with how your mind perceives reality good for you?
idk man you tell me, careful not to frick something up while tripping balls, junkie
Many recent studies conducted by some of the best hospitals in the world found that about 80% of patients with severe depression were cured of it after only 2 psilocybin trips. Same thing with alcoholism. About 80% of the patients cut their alcohol consumption drastically while 50% quit drinking alcohol alltogether, after only 2 psilocybin trips.
Turns out a drug that makes you think about your life from 50 new perspectives can actually have positive effects
The whole schizophrenic shit is not a sure thing even with it in your family
It’s probability but not certainty
Even the stupid docs don’t get this because they’re just told to tell people not to do it
They won’t show you stats
Look them up yourself
There’s a probability anyway if the family history is there so you’re just making another dice roll on the first one
People take the shroomies usually once in a blue moon it doesn’t have the same proclivity for abuse like LSD
I bet the only studies they’ve done are in countries that have made them quasi legal and there’s all kind of other shit in there that makes no sense to someone who takes drugs
Like they’re sample population is so group of total shitbags that do heroin and other crap
Needs more data and less slanted studies guaranteed
opiates like heroin are pretty based. they're like the anti-psychedelic. they don't give you any insight, they don't put you through the wringer. they just let you make peace with everything. it's a fake and fleeting armistice of course
Do you remember what the percentages were? Doing mushrooms helped me tremendously, but honestly if I had schizos in my family and even if there was only a 5% chance of developing schizphrenia I would not have done it, even knowing how much it helped. It sucks that some people are disqualified from using what is essentially a super mental health medication, but there are other ways to fight depression and anxiety without running the risk of ending up in schizo hell
do your own research
trusting some rando anon on the subject already sort of tells me you need to rethink things in general
This means reading published studies and not going to another forum
I feel like I have to specifically say this and you know why lol
Asking questions doesn't imply trust, you dork. If he gives me percentages, of course I'll look it up myself to verify. If he doesn't, I don't really give enough of a shit to start digging
Ok well enjoy losing your mental health I guess
Jump off the bridge meathead I’m sure the water is deep enough
You sound like a very happy and mentally stable person. Have a great night man
I had 2 aunts commit suicide and I was suicidally depressed for an entire decade, shrooms blasted away all my insecurities and made me a better man
It's the only class of drug that has a net positive effect on the user. Every other drug is used as a form of escapism. Psychedelics does the exact opposite and forces you to confront whatever problems you have. The abuse potential is almost the smallest of any class of drug but still there are idiots out there who manage to abuse it. Usually these people are already mentally ill and their existing delusions are amplified by the drug
>eat two shrooms
>put on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wy-W-pYlds&ab_channel=Heilung
>some pre workout
>go gym
>dude i fricking love shrooms
Different types of mushroom and different ways of ingesting and provide different results for instance I noticed caramels and chocolates which are legal ish provide a body high without actually creating any type of visuals or really getting you more High than say a joint or something but if you're doing straight drive dark blue mushrooms you could be essentially a statue for for Plus hours and for that I would recommend a highly scenic view during the day the hardcore mushroom trip really really plays on light and you notice Natural Forces very differently you notice animals and things very differently the animals for instance will treat you differently the mushroom trip for me doesn't really begin until you encounter some weird little animal and it just kind of starts messing with you
I will say many people who do mushrooms avoid LSD because they feel less in control but for me it is completely the opposite any type of anxiety any type of pressure is much worse on mushrooms and you kind of have to sit still and go through it otherwise you'll either not really get high kind of just feel heavy and a little bit disoriented or in my case you can't even walk into a store for how crazy you know that you look and feel but on LSD it's a perfect City Drug I mean the lights are more Lighty at night the feelings of a crisp Breeze or I've done it in a sauna at night they relaxation of warmth and steam and all this it is all taken up to 11 so mushrooms on top of a mountain LSD in the city
Set and setting and intention
If you have a loose grasp on logic, psychodelics aren't for you. Some people have trouble dealing with the fact that their perception is being completely changed within an hour. Obviously it isn't as extreme as acid, but it can be beneficial due to the fact that the serotonin dump will eventually make you sad enough to reflect on why you aren't doing what you need to. I just think they are fun with few downsides if you don't do them often. They are clearly poison and your body is rejecting them