Are there any negatives of artificial sweeteners like sucralose etc?

I’ve heard artificial sweeteners like sucralose make you crave sugar significantly more, not sure whether this is true or not. I only use them in protein powders etc so was wondering about any negatives. Thanks

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://archive.is/0wwTw
    >In a clinical trial, non-nutritive sweeteners — which are supposedly inert — were shown to disrupt the gut microbiome of healthy people and impair glucose tolerance.

    They're not so harmless that's for sure.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What does this mean exactly? No idea on the effects of this

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It mimics some of the diabetic effects of sugar due to effect via gut microbes. Your body might not be able to digest it, but they can.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're asking a really loaded question, anon. In a nutshell, and per the article, it does have some effect on insulin, but even beyond that, the gut biome is also very much responsible for a lot of your emotional well being, people with psychiatric disorders usually have a lot of use gastro intestinal issues, and sugar (and cabrs, really) have a tendency to worsen them. Yeah, you shouldn't be consuming any kind of sucralose, aspartame or whatever. If you're working out proper, whatever dessert you eat should add to your macros, though you defintely drop sugary drinks and candy in general.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      like this anon said, the only bad thing I have ever heard about them is that they can fuck your gut microbiome, specifically as it relates to sugar.
      I would take this with a grain of salt (or sugar), as I am willing to bet that this only becomes a real issue if you overconsume on sucralose or other artificial sweeteners, which most people do. But if you are generally avoiding junk foods and their diet counterparts to begin with (i.e diet sodas, etc) then likely you arent going to experience anything close to prediabetes due to sugar alternatives.
      Essentially I treat them the same as high sugar junk foods to begin with. A soda every once in a while is fine, diet or not. Only when you start overconsuming does it become an issue

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is completely anecdotal and shilling for artificial foods is the last thing I want to do but I've been drinking protein chocolate milk for around 2 years now that has sucralose. It's significally less sweet than the non protein counterpart. If anything it made me crave sweet foods even less, the only sweet foods I eat are fruits and honey in my yogurt. But I'm sure there are negatives to sucralose

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No. They're one of the most studied food items and they come up clean basically every time.

    Agricultural lobby groups ("big sugar") run marketing campaigns exactly so that retards like you get scared for no reason and keep buying sugar. Sweeteners are zero fucking calories in an OBESITY CRISIS. Sugar should be fucking outlawed except for in items that actually jeed sugar for its physical properties rather than just sweetness (can't make caramel out of aspartame for example).

    Fucking 70% of the country or something is overweight. Why is soda made with sugar not banned when we have artificial sweeteners? It's the obvious and easiest first step. Hence the scaremongering marketing campaigns by agricultural peak bodies.

    Always remember that they will kill you for a dollar. Sometimes just for fun.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh and by "marketing" I also mean fake science and paid articles in "health" magazines etc, tobacco company style.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The question isn’t whether they’re better than sugar it’s whether they’re bad or not.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If you don't realise people are trying to manipulate you you're in a poor position to answer either question.

        Artificial sweeteners are entirely harmless except for the very well known laxative effect that some of the very old and nowadays uncommon ones have.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I agree they’re useful but not zero calories. Most are around 3.7 calories per gram. It doesn’t matter much except for those restricting. Though 1g is really sweet to me so I use around 0.25g when I want something sweet without wasting calories

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can feel that it's bad for me especially in the gut. The bad thing is that the anti-sugar lobby will block any negative research for it.

      >most studied
      By what measure? Also artificial sweeteners are in everything and it has not stopped obesity even a little. Same with your keto diet, which is used to induce diabetes in rats.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes the danger is you might get too lean and attractive so women won't stop raping you

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If anything actually bad about sweeteners actually existed you can bet your ass big sugar would have lobbied the fuck out it for it to be banned any time in the last 20 years.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just avoid both refined sugars and their supposedly "inert" counterparts. A soda once a month is fine.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Drink splenda in my coffee and milk everyday
    >On the other hand, hate excessively sweet food and drinks
    Your move, Big Sugar.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Drink splenda in my coffee and milk everyday
      Just learn to like the taste of black coffee. No sugar or substitutes is better than consuming a sugar substitute.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I honestly dont know. But, sugar is one of the most reasearched molecules. With sugar I am almost 100% certain of risk etc.

    When it comes to artificial sweeterners my understanding is that there is not enough extensive and long term studies to be certain.

    So I prefer sugar because I know almost exakt risk and non excessive consumtion.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Solid take, artificial sweeteners you don’t know the risk and there is enough evidence that they could be bad for you. Sugar in low doses is fine, and when taken in moderation. I’ll go with sugar, but just not that much of it.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i always get nasty diarrheas after consuming whey protein powder, it can't be the whey because i can consume 2 liters of milk just fine without any issues, so it's either the sweeteners or whatever thickener they use

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Drink water and add a dash of psyllium husk fiber

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You should quit using sugar before using artificial sweeteners because your taste buds are used to artificially high levels of sweetness, which means that you’ll be better off in the long run if you allow your taste buds to adapt to lower levels of sweetness in your food.

    For example, some people can’t eat fruit because fruit “doesn’t taste good” to them. If you’re one of these people, your tongue is fucked up, and you need to quit eating sugar or sweeteners until fruit tastes good.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They induce glucose intolerance and insulin resistance so when you consume actual sugar/carbohydrates your body can't process it properly.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Artificial sweeteners increase the chances of commotio cordis

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/artificial-sweeteners/art-20046936

    >tl;dr safe in small amounts, problems arise in daily, long term use
    use it to wean yourself off of sweets

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My aunt works in a chemical plant and she says aspartame causes brain damage and ADHD. I'm not bothered to look up any research papers but I'm inclined to trust her.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They generally ruin your digestion, encourage you to eat more because to compensate for the calories that your body expects but doesn't get, and still trigger the same insulin responses that cause diabetes so they're a joke.

    I recently learned about monkfruit being a natural sugar substitute but I don't know anything about them.

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