Are there really health benefits from cold plunges/showers or is it all just pseudoscience?
Are there really health benefits from cold plunges/showers or is it all just pseudoscience?
Are there really health benefits from cold plunges/showers or is it all just pseudoscience?
No.
only if you do them when you don't want to
its pseudscience influencer garbage
protip: anyone who tells you there is a bodily hack that is contrary to what your body tells you, is a fricking moron
>contrary to what your body tells you
My body tells me to not work out and eat donuts and lay down all day, must be good for me
>My body tells me to not work out and eat donuts and lay down all day
Humans in nature are sedentary.
You wouldn't find donuts in nature (highly processed carbs with sugars acting like drugs), so you'll have to find ways to distance yourself from that.
Sounds logical, to me. Humans are not much different from lions.
Lions spend 20 hours a day just lazing around and only hunt once every 2-3 days.
And the actual hunt is more like a stroll with a sprint at the end.
Exercise in general is extremely unnatural, because you are burning calories (which is necessary for survival and scarce in nature) for no fricking reason.
>humans are not much different from lions.
correct
We evolved to run marathons in Africa
the guy who made marathons popular died in his 50s
Based Goatis enjoyer. Let these idiots ruin their bodies and reduce their lifespans. Ignore when they try to shame you for not participating in their idiocy.
Humans weren't made to live long moron
Humans aren't "made".
We are evolutionary products, and it's clear that humans can live up to 120 under super-optimal conditions.
We’ve come full circle guys. Being healthy is shit now. Thrash yourselves!
Living to be 90+ years is the opposite of healthy
Animals don't exercise in nature. Neither did prehistoric humans. Donuts are unnatural and don't exist in nature. You should in fact trust your body you low IQ pleb.
What the frick do you know about animals you moron?
Secondly what the frick is nature even supposed to mean? Is grain not nature? Is sugar not nature? Is oil not nature?
>Is grain not nature? Is sugar not nature? Is oil not nature?
grain sludge with tablespoons of extracted sugars and seed oil is as far from nature as you can go
Where is the line? Are we not natural?
The line is whatever evolution prepared us to do
Evolution can't prepare us against a very recent food that we invented to gain an unprecedented amount of calories all at once.
>Evolution can't prepare us against a very recent food that we invented
Actually it can, moron. That's what evolution does. Clothes weren't always "natural". At one point humans started wearing pelts to stay warm and we slowly evolved to have less body hair because we no longer needed it. There are foods, like dairy, that humans have evolved the ability to digest.
The point is that it's too recent.
Besides that, technology is hampering natural selection, letting undesirable genes in the genepool thrive.
Cold plunges don't feel great.
In fact, the biggest benefit that is always cited is that you need a lot of discipline.
The reason you are fooled into thinking it's great is because your body releases endorphine *after* you've cold plunged, meaning when you escape a dangerous situation.
It's no different than the high you get from going through a very painful oral surgery. Oral surgeries themselves are extremely stressful, but on the flip side you'll be riding on a high when you're done, or when you have "escaped" that "dangerous" situation.
You realize your contradicting yourself right?
>it doesn't benefit you by making you feel good after
>you feel good after but not like that.
You're not feeling good about it, during. It's a masochistic high you can only get because it's a painful & uncomfortaable experience.
If cold plunges were painless and comfortable, you wouldn't be feeling that high.
Yep exactly.
Thankyou.
Maybe realize life is suffering and that you are rewarded for certain types.
Break a bone, no endorphins. Lift heavy or run hard to be in better shape and improve to further survive, endorphins.
You're a weak pussy homosexual, just OD on fent or drink if you wanna feel good without improving. Oh jeez that just causes serious depression afterwards.....hmmm?
This is bullshit. We evolved to have less body hair because our ancestors lived in hot-as-frick African savannahs and did long-distance endurance exercise that made it necessary to efficiently dissipate heat. Imagine running for hours in Tanzania to chase a wounded gazelle while wearing a fur coat that grows out of your entire body. We started wearing pelts after we'd lost most of our hair and started migrating to colder climates.
none of this real. I DID NOT evolve from a monkey, ape or black person.
Finally someone said it
>you came from... le niggur
You expect me to believe this shit? Couldn't be me.
>and did long-distance endurance exercise that made it necessary to efficiently dissipate heat
There is no archeological evidence that people did "long-distance endurance", or what you're probably referring to, "endurance hunting".
Contemporary isolated tribes don't endurance hunt. They stalk, track, ambush and trap, but they don't "endurance hunt".
The few African tribes that get mentioned over and over again that supposedly do endurance hunting just take a leisurely stroll to follow an injured animal until it becomes immobile.
https://www.popsci.com/persistence-hunting-myth/
>You seem like your advocating for everyone to just live off of welfare are shoot up heroin all day because no discomfort would be necessary.
I never said that. Discomfort is absolutely necessary, but that's because we live unnatural lives.
I work as a software engineer, but the way I got there was tough and filled with hurdles. But now I can work from home and no longer have to live from paycheck to paycheck.
If you are a bouncer or a sports player, then going to the gym and working out is absolutely necessary for you, but for most people who go to the gym this doesn't apply.
They think that large muscles or being able to run long distances is somehow critical to their health, which is just not true.
You should become a preacher, because that sentence belongs in a temple.
>They think that large muscles or being able to run long distances is somehow critical to their health, which is just not true.
Not true anymore but for all of history? yes.
And they are healthier (the natty ones anyway)
Is it absolutely necessary now? No, but it certainly makes you more attractive and you feel better in overall.
Once again you just sound like a pussy. get in shape enough to run under 23 min in a 5k and tell me you don't feel better as a person and have even a better overall mood. Is it critical? No but the bennifits are appealing and obvious to anyone who's tried.
haha imagine being this moronic yet so confident. i envy you
He's right and you're wrong and moronic.
"moronic" is how i'd describe someone who blindly follows and worships trends instead of listening to his own body for something as simple and prehistoric as physical activity
post body samegay
>no argument
too moronic to argue your stance lmao
have a nice day samegay. you aren’t fooling anyone
I mean you would certainly store up far more energy and be more capable of handling famine than people who do the opposite.
that just means you're hypothyroidic
It is good for you as far as your body understands. we've basically spent so much time as a species needing to conserve energy and store it as fat that you can't undo that biological necessity just because of a couple hundred years of modern history.
For weightlifters and general hormone nonsense no not in the slightest.
For people who play contact or endurance sports somewhat but doesn't really do much below 60f.
Psüdo
I don’t have any actual sources, but anecdotally I did cold showers for a year and I didn’t feel any better mentally or physically. Maybe my shower isn’t cold enough?
Pseudoscience influencer grifter garbage.
The mood improvement when getting out is real, but it only lasts a few hours.
200-500% increase to testosterone, dopamine, and blood circulation.
11 minutes a week. Broken up in 1-3 minutes sessions at temperatures 50 -33 degrees F.
It sucks balls while you're in there but you feel like a million bucks when you get out and the feeling lasts all day.
There is a reason they say to throw suicidal people in cold water. They choose life!
All the people saying there is no benefit are literally just coping because their inner b***h has conquered them.
Andrew huberman has cited his sources with multiple studies verifying the innumerable benefits to cold plunges.
Quit being a little b***h, and get in the water. It's just 3 minutes. If there was a pill that gave you all these benefits and made you feel this good you would all be taking it.
>200-500% increase to testosterone,
Yeah uh huh and I'm the fricking queen of France. Of course, if your test is in the single digits I'm sure a natural fluctuation could be 5x.
>If there was a pill that gave you all these benefits and made you feel this good you would all be taking it.
You make fun of people wanting a magic pill, then you offer cold showers, which only requires running water and some discipline, as some sort of magic pill that raises your testosterone by 500%.
Humans are naturally averted by the cold. If the cold made us "stronger", we'd be evolutionarily wired to feel great by exposing our bodies to the cold for short periods of time.
>we'd be evolutionarily wired to feel great by exposing our bodies to the cold for short periods of time.
Yeah so... exactly eat cold plunges do?
Not sure what your point is?
if you do it it long enough, your skin starts getting whiter
It's momscience. Like acupuncture and chiropractic and cupping and keto and gluten-free and speed training
Keto is good because it reduces hunger. Enjoy your sugar crash.
Gluten free can be mom-science but isn't always
It feels good, makes your mind more sharp in a meditation kind of way but I think it's shit if you want to build muscle takes all your inflimaion away which means no gains but the up side is your joints will feel good and won't have gym acts or pains doing it every day
>makes your mind more sharp in a meditation kind of way
Yeah, it's called adrenaline & noradrenaline.
Your body feels like it's about to die, like a mouse being chased by a big cat, so it releases a bunch of hormones as a last resort to keep you from dying.
People who take cold plunges are intentionally getting their bodies into a life-or-death situation, which the body responds with accordingly, and they treat this like a good thing.
>life is suffering
You are following a slave mentality. Christianity and other religions have deeply ingrained this "suffering is a virtue" type of thinking. Even atheists believe this, because it is a natural part of our culture.
A successful man prevails in spite of suffering, not because of it. People at the upper echelons of society get there very comfortably and barely suffer, at all.
Most people who suffer don't get very far.
If the type of suffering you choose is lifting, running or taking cold showers, then you're going to be one of those people.
So what is a satisfying life for you?
Never putting any effort into anything and only accomplishing things that you don't have to try at and hope you inherited wealth from your ancestors so you never have to overcome any adversity?
You seem like your advocating for everyone to just live off of welfare are shoot up heroin all day because no discomfort would be necessary.
Mankind has grown strong in eternal struggles and it will only perish through eternal peace.
i blast gear and tell everyone i do cold plunges every morning, i have them all convinced haha
All the benefits go away when you get used to it.
But alterating hot and cold like freezing cold shower after hot sauna is good as it trains your cardiovascular system and strengthens immune system.
Finiahing showers with cold water will close the pores and prevent acne.