Are these bench standards true?

Are these bench standards true?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you are a member of a serious gym or have a social circle of hardcore lifters, then yes. If you go to a commercial gym then dial each tier back and your done.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    225 is unironically like a top 90th percentile bench, if you can bench 225 you're already beyond where most people in the gym will ever get

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Which is sad because a 225 bench isn't really hard to get at all. Most people just train like retards and don't actually push themselves when they workout

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah so less competition for girls who like a decent chest. Only a homosexual would call that "sad".

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Only a homosexual would call that "sad".
          Only an insecure closeted homo would say this

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >tfw get tendonitis all the time which hurts my bench progress
        e1rm of lmao ~120kg at 86kg but still

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That doesn't make it good

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      See that's the difference between you and me. I don't compare myself to everybody else. I compare myself to the people who are doing it the best.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You will be never as good as the genetical elite

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this is such a midwit take
      its really easy to belong to top 90th percentile even without ever stepping inside the gym, just do push ups, go on a hike, eat healthy and so on.

      yes 225lbs bench IS unironically top 90th percentile. UNIRONICALLY it's really shit and low standard. my dad reached 225lbs bench when he was a teen in 6 months. for me it took like 9 months dont really remeber exacts, ive been lifting 10 years now so it's been a while.

      i have friends who benched 80kg for reps first time in the gym, played only sports like tennis before that and never lifted weights. that statement is true but it's nothing to be proud of. im smarter than most people but its nothing to write home about, it's really easy to be smarter than others.

      I never believe this shit honestly, it's just like penis size, combination of people lying for egos and people with higher stats more likely to openly report. Nobody I know admits to 2pl8 bench and everyone I know would be impressed by it. This goes for people saying that everyone should be able to bench 1pl8 first time they get under a barbell at age 14 or whatever - I believe you if you tell me people can do it, sure, but it's far from average in my anecdotal experience. In circles where the baseline is higher, i.e. seriously committed lifters or even competitors, maybe, but not the general population.
      >inb4 "you are surrounded by dyels"
      T. 1pl8 bench for 8 and yes I consider myself a dyel so do your worst

      you are seriously fucking retarded dyel and work in a down syndrome environment if you know NO ONE that can admit benching 2pl8 and they would all be impressed by it. simple as.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the person who typed that post was definitely about 280 lbs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      here comes the benchlet cope. C'mon little buddy you can hit that 155lb pr soon!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        2 plate is not dyel tier for someone below 200 lbs, especially well below. the weight of the person in question drastically changes the strength standard. a person who is fat pushing a 1x bodyweight bench is hardly impressive, at all. look at strengthstandards .com, look at the standards for indermediate or advanced lifter based on the lifters weight. if there is no mention of the lifters weight in the post, the person is deliberately hiding information because they themselves are fat as fuck and want to feel like they are 'pretty serious about lifting'. just like you big fella! make a post using % of bodyweight for each lift maybe? youre probably op arent you buddy, just trying to feel like you are a god benching 315 at a weight of 315?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A lot of the strength standards you see online are gonna be inflated because the people who can bench 2pl8 are gonna be a lot more vocal than those who can't.
          Obviously a 6'0" 90kg guy will be stronger than a 5'8" 70kg guy. It's no wonder the strongest powerlifters are also some of the biggest people on the planet.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          bw% isn't great either since lighter lifters will always lift higher relative loads, while heavier lifters will hit higher absolute loads, but lower relative ones

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          is 185 good at 135 bodyweight?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            1.3x bodyweight, pretty good. Would be like a 200lb person benching 260

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's not good

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I would like to see how heavy you can bench at 135

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I’m 135lb and I can bench 245lbs for two
                >tfw 5’4”

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                what's you're current weight and current max. If you can bench more than 50lbs your weight that's impressive.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                190 291.5/132.5kg and I wouldn't say my bench is impressive at all. BW ratios also don't scale linearly.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's not good

              If you're a male and 150lbs it's still not impressive because you need to eat more.

              what's you're current weight and current max. If you can bench more than 50lbs your weight that's impressive.

              I'll even continue. Lamar Gant (dyels on IST don't know who he is) was a lightweight powerlifter who made world records. His deadlift? 623lb. His bench? 320lb.

              Pretending that your leverages don't matter is peak stupidity. That "180lb" guy listing his bench is probably 5'5". I've been watching youtube fitness for too long and literally every single person giving bench tips to natties is a turbo manlet, actual midget like Nippard or Alphadestiny. People that are normal height like Jeff Cavalier or Alan Thrall have poverty benches. Coincidence? I don't think so.

              Of course, the majority of people on the internet are severely overweight but they pretend they're ripped Chads. IST is no exception plus most of the people here also don't even lift so they don't know these basic facts of reality.

              275lb bench is my PR at 180lb by the way, I'm not saying 225lb is roider tier, though most people roid for that like Brad from the Delray Misfits. I'm just commenting because I've noticed within 3-4 years we have shifted from repping 2pl8 as making it to being "still a noob" and that 315lb is the target. I'm surei n a couple years it will be 350lbs.

              You fags this is exactly what the Wilks coefficient is for

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          1/2/3/4 needs an update either based around bf% or calisthenics
          Chances are most guys with a 3pl8 bench can’t do 10 pullups

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            and weight, 1/2/3/4 is way more impressive for someone weighing 150 than 200

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              If you're a male and 150lbs it's still not impressive because you need to eat more.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Chances are most guys with a 3pl8 bench can’t do 10 pullups
            True

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Dude Brian Shaw can't do 10 pullups. It would be great if pullups would filter the powershart ogres from the healthy strong guys but it doesn't work as they favour way too much towards the skinny side. I bet the world record holder for pullups is like 110 pounds and can barely do 1/2/3/4 despite having such elite strength - could be wrong but that's what I'd wager.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            1/2/3/4 doesn't need to be updated because it's a completely arbitrary standard and doesn't actually matter

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think 10 pull-ups would do a great job at filtering the fatties who claim 1/2/3/4 is “beginner” tier. If you’re actually in shape, 10 pull-ups should be no harder than a 2 plate bench.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >2 plate is not dyel tier
          Stopped reading there.
          I don't train bench and did 130kg last time I tested my 1rm, I just do weighted calisthenics and several different sports.
          There's no excuse for a grown man not to be able to bench lmao2pl8.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I know it's probably dyel cope, but unless you're competing lifting milestones should be based on bodyweight. Being able to 1RM your bodyweight is the benchmark for being an intermediate lifter, 1.5x bodyweight for advanced.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    3pl8 at 175lb bw this past week

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nice one
      3.5 @ 190 here

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I used to bench 225lbs for reps, full range of motion. Stopped lifting for 5 years because I dated a gains goblin. Just started again 2 months ago and I can only do 180lbs for reps.
    So when does that muscle memory kick in?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hitting 180 right away is the muscle memory.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    am cross country DYEL that got extra skinnyfat during covid quarantine. became liftcuck and could only bench the bar back in january, now at 175lbs. I rarely see anyone bench over 185, and when they do they aren't dyel surprisingly. i'm surprised at how many guys i see that are bigger than me but cant do more than 1pl8 for reps

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >dyel retard doesn't understand training with lower weight for hypertrophy

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not him but if you are benching 135lbs as a working weight you are either stupid or not very strong only weight that you can do for up to 30 reps elicits hypertrophy if 135lbs isn’t less than 50% of 1rm which is your 30 rep max then you are weak.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >dyel retard doesn't understand pre-fatiguing the muscle with different exercises or training for a pump
          Holy shit shut up. How fucking dumb are you? Imagine smugly typing that shit and not even understanding basic body building concepts and imagining situations where using light weight would be applicable. have a nice day you complete fucking retard.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > >dyel retard doesn't understand pre-fatiguing the muscle
            Post body, and I’ll reiterate my point aside from the fact that training like that is retarded, if you can’t lift at least 175lbs for reps of 10-12 you aren’t particularly strong
            > training for a pump
            t. Retard

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don’t really see a point to going past 3 plates
    I can’t imagine still running miles and being that strong

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only people that benched over 225lb for training in the silver era were all fatass strongmen and a couple, only a couple, exceptions like Dave Draper and the horse meat guy who Arnold said was one of the strongest guys he's ever seen. You look at any of their pics and they were all doing what you would call "dyel" weight. This is the weight they chose to show off to the camera with too, they probably lifted less than this.

    Now a couple things to consider about the bench
    >most people are fat as fuck. Morbidly obese
    >most people in the gym only care about benching and curls
    >1/4 people in the gym are roiding, probably more in America due to easy access to drugs and roiding hollywood icons breeding insecurity
    >benching becomes easier the bigger your fat gut is and the shorter, trex arms you have
    And there's the recipe for bloating strength "standards" online.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cope

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Never post on this topic again
      Arnold has video benching 3pl incline and 4pl+ Regular And
      700lb plus deadlift in competition
      Curls are around 225lb for rep
      All this can be seen in his movie fucking retard

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He said silver era. 40s and 50s. That guy in his pic is Steeve Reeves, Mr America, Mr World and Mr universe.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you are correct and knowledgeable and the other gay anons are seething

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      top tier b8

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'll even continue. Lamar Gant (dyels on IST don't know who he is) was a lightweight powerlifter who made world records. His deadlift? 623lb. His bench? 320lb.

      Pretending that your leverages don't matter is peak stupidity. That "180lb" guy listing his bench is probably 5'5". I've been watching youtube fitness for too long and literally every single person giving bench tips to natties is a turbo manlet, actual midget like Nippard or Alphadestiny. People that are normal height like Jeff Cavalier or Alan Thrall have poverty benches. Coincidence? I don't think so.

      Of course, the majority of people on the internet are severely overweight but they pretend they're ripped Chads. IST is no exception plus most of the people here also don't even lift so they don't know these basic facts of reality.

      275lb bench is my PR at 180lb by the way, I'm not saying 225lb is roider tier, though most people roid for that like Brad from the Delray Misfits. I'm just commenting because I've noticed within 3-4 years we have shifted from repping 2pl8 as making it to being "still a noob" and that 315lb is the target. I'm surei n a couple years it will be 350lbs.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are one of the only reasonable people on this board. This board is fucking terrible. It's just /LULZ/ tiers of schizoid and catty at this point. I unironically think half of the posters here should kill themselves.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > Pretending that your leverages don't matter is peak stupidity. That "180lb" guy listing his bench is probably 5'5". I've been watching youtube fitness for too long and literally every single person giving bench tips to natties is a turbo manlet, actual midget like Nippard or Alphadestiny. People that are normal height like Jeff Cavalier or Alan Thrall have poverty benches. Coincidence? I don't think so.

        Cope, bald omniman is 5’11, had long arms and is 177lbs yet here he is Larsen pressing 305x5 paused. Now is he genetically elite maybe but one example was all I needed to disprove your broad statement. Cavaliers is a bad example cuz the only two reasons why he has to fake lifts and can probably not bench above 225x5 is because he is a obsessed with staying at 6% bodyfat and won’t bulk to gain muscle which he doesn’t have a that much of(not saying he is dyel but he only has arms and shoulders, the bro muscles). As for thrall I know no world where a 360lb bench is a “poverty bench” https://youtu.be/naXe81PfLiQ
        All in all stop coping bulk up to build muscle and strength then cut so you can become actually strong

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >look he's only benching a low weight in this picture that means he's just as weak as me and couldn't do 2 pl8!
      Actual retard.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    are those numbers one rep max or working sets?

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Height is one of the most important factors in bench. Manlets always have good bench numbers.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lol please look up the bench press world record holder

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes if you are a serious lifter but if you have commercial gym mindset it is:
    135lb-have a bit of training but dyel
    225lb-you lift
    315lb-you are strong
    315lb+-you are on gear

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can bench about 75kg for 5 reps with a lot of effort, my bw is 80kg.

    I'm not from the US, but let me tell you that I'm one of the guys that benches the heavier on my gym even benching under 2pl8. I'm not saying 2pl8 isn't a realistic goal, but (at least where I live) it's nowhere near the average. The single most popular weight I see guys benching is 10kg/side. That's literally half a pl8.

    Also keep in mind all powerlifters, just like all athletes, are on heavy roids. 600lb bench isn't achievable for natty lifters at all. I'd say 2pl8 is good, impressive even, and 3pl8 is probably a little beyond some people's genetic limit for strength. I workout six days per week and I'm yet to see someone benching 2pl8.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You should go to a better gym if you're at the gym six days a week and don't see anyone benching 225. Are you at a gym filled with women and novices?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's a popular gym, has plenty of equipment and widest variety of machines I've ever seen in a gym. I don't see how lifting around dyels can be bad for me

        I think normies don't really care much for weight at all, let alone care for their diet/protein intake. I'm also the only person that does barbell ohp on the gym I think, never saw anyone else doing it. Maybe it's a culture thing and in the US people generally take lifting a little more seriously, idk

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I don't see how lifting around dyels can be bad for me
          You start to think mediocrity is okay as evidenced my your post. Who cares what normies do? Don't you want to be big and strong not normal?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Mate I just wanna improve, I've been lifting since february and all my lifts are consistently going up. I'm just pointing out that either 2pl8 isn't average at all and IST standards are distorted because of powerlifting autists, possibly on gear, or that's there's a massive cultural difference between where I'm from and the US. Wherever you workout, is it actually normal and 'average' to see guys benching 2pl8?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I go to a serious gym with a lot of powerlifters and just in general stronger recreational lifters so yeah 225 is nothing special there. But even at the community centres I used to work out at there were a people who could put up 2pl8 for a single. If anything IST standards set periods expectations too low since they use retarded websites like strengthlevel

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I always assumed it was because a lot of Americans are obese and despite their fat, they have more strength than people who have average weight in other healthier countries, hence they favor barbell strength training more.
          I'm also the only guy who does strict barbell OHP, weighted chin ups and does sets of 5 in my gym (commercial). There's only like 1 other guy than me deadlifting too.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there are 3582 people on openpowerlifting with a 495+ pound bench press

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I never believe this shit honestly, it's just like penis size, combination of people lying for egos and people with higher stats more likely to openly report. Nobody I know admits to 2pl8 bench and everyone I know would be impressed by it. This goes for people saying that everyone should be able to bench 1pl8 first time they get under a barbell at age 14 or whatever - I believe you if you tell me people can do it, sure, but it's far from average in my anecdotal experience. In circles where the baseline is higher, i.e. seriously committed lifters or even competitors, maybe, but not the general population.
    >inb4 "you are surrounded by dyels"
    T. 1pl8 bench for 8 and yes I consider myself a dyel so do your worst

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're a dyel surrounded by dyels and ops standards are based on what you can do if you try

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not disputing whether or not I could achieve them in the future, I'm disputing that they're accurate bench press standards for the general population

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          they're not for the gen population, they're for what people who take it seriously do. Why are you comparing yourself to people who don't even lift?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Fair point

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This site is such a toilet of worthless opinions. Hopefully, while I, bloatmaxed, am benching 3pl8 for easy reps, the skinny dyel 150 pound scraggily haired poster analogs in this thread are across from me struggling with their 185 max, and get pinned. I'm just going to watch them stop breathing. But before hand I'm going to whisper in their ear "it's more impressive than me bro 1.3x bodyweight bro, good stuff" and sip my blueberry pomegranate vitamin water.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Benchlet here, unsure of ORM but I can bench 50kg for 4 reps.
    >67kg bodyweight
    >5'11 manlet height :^(
    Typically I do 3x10 bench press twice a week where I can do 45kg. How do I stop being a skrunkoid???

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For heavy roiders, yes.
    If you hop on Tren and don't go past 300lbs bench easily, you're doing it wrong.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How do i get better at bench bros? I can do 185lbs for 3 and 155lbs for 10 but its the lift i struggle with the most, really hard to make consistent progress with it. I do incline with dumbbells and put close grip back into my routine and going to focus on barbell bench in the 6-10 rep range now for hypertrophy, so ill be working chest twice on my 2 upper days.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I''ve been lifting for 3 years but for some reason I can't progress my bench over 60kg. I've tried eating more, changing techniques, posture, the speed at which I've lifted, changing to other chest exercises before returning to the bench press and damn near anything I can think of. It's driving me crazy that I'm stuck. God damnit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Full range of motion. Don't ego lift if you do.
      Bench twice per week with 3-4 days between.
      Dips will help alot. Weighted dips if you can do that is even better.
      Incline dumbbel benchpress once a week.
      OHP once a week. Arnold press once a week.
      This assuming your natty. If your on the juice you can probably up everything.
      Pyramid weighting for your BP. Always warmup with 1-2 sets of lightweights.
      Try to aim for 5 reps, if you can only do 3 thats fine just increase volume a little.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you can't press a modern day 4 seater car then how do you expect to ever be useful when your child is trapped under one?

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lifting for others is the most cringe idea ever.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on what you want to achieve with lifting.

    For literally anything other than being a beast: Anything past 225 lbs is god tier if you are relatively lean and doing it for reps.

    If you have body dysmorphia (which you will have at that point) then yes

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