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Are you IST enough for Empress Elisabeth of Austria?

> The empress developed extremely rigorous and disciplined exercise habits. Every castle she lived in was equipped with a gymnasium, the Knights' Hall of the Hofburg was converted into one, mats and balance beams were installed in her bedchamber so that she could practise on them each morning, and the imperial villa at Ischl was fitted with gigantic mirrors so that she could correct every movement and position. She took up fencing in her 50s with equal discipline. A fervent horsewoman, she rode every day for hours on end, becoming probably the world's best, as well as best-known, female equestrian at the time. When, due to sciatica, she could no longer endure long hours in the saddle, she substituted walking, subjecting her attendants to interminable marches and hiking tours in all weather.

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I kneel before the Empress of IST

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
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      Anonymous
  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >At 172 cm (5 feet 8 inches), Elisabeth was unusually tall. Even after three pregnancies she maintained her weight at approximately 50 kg (110 pounds, 7 st 12 lbs) for the rest of her life. She achieved this through fasting and exercise, such as gymnastics and riding.

    >She developed a horror of fat women and transmitted this attitude to her youngest daughter, who was terrified when, as a little girl, she first met Queen Victoria.

    >Elisabeth slept without a pillow on a metal bedstead, which she believed was better for retaining and maintaining her upright posture

    >To further preserve her skin tone, she took both a cold shower every morning

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/2s0ZM1K.jpg

      Are you IST enough for Empress Elisabeth of Austria?

      > The empress developed extremely rigorous and disciplined exercise habits. Every castle she lived in was equipped with a gymnasium, the Knights' Hall of the Hofburg was converted into one, mats and balance beams were installed in her bedchamber so that she could practise on them each morning, and the imperial villa at Ischl was fitted with gigantic mirrors so that she could correct every movement and position. She took up fencing in her 50s with equal discipline. A fervent horsewoman, she rode every day for hours on end, becoming probably the world's best, as well as best-known, female equestrian at the time. When, due to sciatica, she could no longer endure long hours in the saddle, she substituted walking, subjecting her attendants to interminable marches and hiking tours in all weather.

      A fasting and walkchad….. I kneel

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      true queen of IST

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I kneel

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally unmoggable. Rides, hikes, fasts, bathes in cold water. She was a looksmaxxer before it even was a thing.

      Still, my heart belongs to someone else..

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Name?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that's Maria Romanov.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/c3OxTdg.png

            Literally unmoggable. Rides, hikes, fasts, bathes in cold water. She was a looksmaxxer before it even was a thing.

            Still, my heart belongs to someone else..

            Incredible beauty.

            Only a satanic ideology would compel a man to murder such a beautiful maiden who was inoccent and never did anyone harm.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Please do not remind me of her grim fate. She (along with her sisters) should be canonized by the Roman Catholic Church (they have been but by the Russian one iirc).
              I think about her often bros.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >who was inoccent and never did anyone harm.
              Her existence alone and her lifestyle have been at the expense of hundreds if not thousands of peasants you simp roach.

              No one is innocent. Me included.
              Especially not Royalty. If she were an innocent maiden she would have retired from the worldly things, give up her title and gave up her wealth to the less fortunate and live like a monk.

              You simp goblin.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >reeeeee
                >doesnt understand the function of society
                die Bolshevik

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >0
                What else are peasants good for?

                Imperialist bootlickers posting from the squalor. You are literally slaves to bolsheviks(garden gnomes) and you happy with that lil they let you have.

                You are worse than morons.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >0
                What else are peasants good for?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ever notice how marxists rejoice in torturing and murdering children?
                Anyone else ever notice that?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                okay hasan go drive your 200k dollar car

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >nobody is innocent
                >this justifies the massacre of children

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                look IST a communist is here

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                gay ass commie

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                look IST a communist is here

                https://i.imgur.com/JisOYxk.jpg

                >nobody is innocent
                >this justifies the massacre of children

                Edgy gay teens. I born into communism you don't know shit about it. I know how bad it is, I experienced it first hand.
                That being said if you don't hate the rich elite and garden gnomes. You deserve a bullet too

                You sound bitter about someone living a life they enjoyed with some passion and commitment.
                She was born into an extremely structured and controlled way of life, in a time period where women weren't given any serious voice and was basically a fuck thing for her Husband. Luckily he was nice enough to let her go and do her own thing.

                You sound lik a disgusting cunt.
                Women are not good for anything but dump a load into them and birth kids but most of them even suck at these basic biologic functions as they die while giving birth or thier cunts smell worse than a 1 week old corpse.
                Vaginoids took down many empires before and they do it again.

                She should have known her place. The rich autist cunt.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Edgy retard. She birthed 3 healthy children and still remained dedicated to her health and passions, setting an excellent example for her children.
                Your misanthropy masquerading as bigoted masculinity isn't fooling anyone.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >rich hoe spit out a couple kids and continued to be an autist at the expense of the less fortunate
                Wow so inspiring. It must have been so hard for her to continue to be dedicated to her 'passions' not like she had anything to do or worry about.

                Not like she could have affect the world and better the lives of others, no she bravely continued to ride and jump around in a padded gymnasium like a fucking retard. So brave, so empowering.
                Whorecunts never achieved anything and never will because women are not suited to innovate, create, came up with ideas.

                They accomplished nothing trough our written history except taking down great empires from within but you not allowed to learn about that anymore. It's sexist. garden gnomes push vaginoids because thier stupid ass can't stop spending money on bs and eat up media propaganda.

                Not a single thing trough history. Not one. Even when I go out and see the cities and roads and infrastructure, its all made by men. Yet somehow we are equal and I deserve less. With garden gnomes and women you can only lose.

                Truly the morons of the genders.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >calls people edgy gay teens
                >goes on to make the most edgy fag teen post on IST

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You read it you lost fah

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                he is not wrong tho

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Patty mogged into oblivion

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >She developed a horror of fat women and transmitted this attitude to her youngest daughter, who was terrified when, as a little girl, she first met Queen Victoria.
      unfathomably based

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >She developed a horror of fat women
      How can a woman be so based?
      I think she would die of horror if she was magically teleported to the 21st century

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        she would be a massive slut and probably be an IG whore

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I kneel my queen

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I would go to war to protect her. My queen.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I wouldn't. Yeah, nice gal, but then you'd be in the austrian army and the austrian army existed to give someone something to beat.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          We already knew you were low T anon, no need to reaffirm it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My love.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >slept very little
        >smoking
        Into the trash it goes.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        onassis poster revealed to be a time traveling austrian empress

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >She developed a horror of fat women and transmitted this attitude to her youngest daughter, who was terrified when, as a little girl, she first met Queen Victoria
      Bongs btfo

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >she took both a cold shower in the morning ... and what? AND WHAT?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >To further preserve her skin tone, she took both a cold shower every morning (which in later years aggravated her arthritis) and an olive oil bath in the evening.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >ywn cook your meals with used IST Austrian Empress bath oil.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Whenever her weight threatened to exceed fifty kilos, a "fasting cure" or "hunger cure" would follow, which involved almost complete fasting. Meat itself often filled her with disgust, so she either had the juice of half-raw beefsteaks squeezed into a thin soup, or else adhered to a diet of milk and eggs

      holy shit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Whenever her weight threatened to exceed fifty kilos, a "fasting cure" or "hunger cure" would follow, which involved almost complete fasting. Meat itself often filled her with disgust, so she either had the juice of half-raw beefsteaks squeezed into a thin soup, or else adhered to a diet of milk and eggs

      >open IST
      >ready for the usual absolute cesspit of bullshit
      >discover an unreachable life affirming historical waifu
      I'm having a picture of her printed and framed
      Fuck hanging up flags in the homegym

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I kneel.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's nice, but it's funny when you remember there are ISTcels and insta thots neurotic than her about fitness

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Youre foregtting about the time period. The standards hace risen drastically. The most basic level of ISTness today, would get you put in the madhouse back then. Especially as a woman.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sissi a best! A best!!!
      I kneel, indeed.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hail to queen of IST

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If I do enough deadlifts can I resurrect her?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My queen

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>She developed a horror of fat women and transmitted this attitude to her youngest daughter, who was terrified when, as a little girl, she first met Queen Victoria.
      Incredibly based, fuck bonglards

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      my queen, I KNEEL

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      she will never be your queen

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I shall participate in this blessed kneelthread. I swear fealty for our queen

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      B-bros, how do you travel back in time?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i pledge myself

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/2s0ZM1K.jpg

      Are you IST enough for Empress Elisabeth of Austria?

      > The empress developed extremely rigorous and disciplined exercise habits. Every castle she lived in was equipped with a gymnasium, the Knights' Hall of the Hofburg was converted into one, mats and balance beams were installed in her bedchamber so that she could practise on them each morning, and the imperial villa at Ischl was fitted with gigantic mirrors so that she could correct every movement and position. She took up fencing in her 50s with equal discipline. A fervent horsewoman, she rode every day for hours on end, becoming probably the world's best, as well as best-known, female equestrian at the time. When, due to sciatica, she could no longer endure long hours in the saddle, she substituted walking, subjecting her attendants to interminable marches and hiking tours in all weather.

      https://i.imgur.com/4sc2M2k.jpg

      >5'8
      >hates fatties
      >obsessed with fitness
      >pale
      >likes going on walks
      >smokes like a chimney
      >obsessed with a german thinker
      bros... shes literally me

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She's a dyke you morons

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >3 kids

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >lesbians are unable to have children
          moron what the fuck

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I will travel back in time and bring her here to fix this world

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Some Italian incel assassinated her. We need to resurrect her.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      As a 5'5 male, I kneel.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Whenever her weight threatened to exceed fifty kilos, a "fasting cure" or "hunger cure" would follow, which involved almost complete fasting. Meat itself often filled her with disgust, so she either had the juice of half-raw beefsteaks squeezed into a thin soup, or else adhered to a diet of milk and eggs

      Metal as fuck. I wish I could be her gay friend.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >nopillow and cold shower

      lmao based and looksmaxxed pilled

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > She never wore petticoats or any other "underlinen", as they added bulk, and was often literally sewn into her clothes, to bypass waistbands, creases, and wrinkles and to further emphasize the "wasp waist" that became her hallmark
      No undergarments you say? Tight clothing?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >She developed a horror of fat women and transmitted this attitude to her youngest daughter, who was terrified when, as a little girl, she first met Queen Victoria.
      based

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/Bo9vlU0.jpg

      holy FUCK

      https://i.imgur.com/CPeoTLY.jpg

      [...]
      Incredible beauty.

      Only a satanic ideology would compel a man to murder such a beautiful maiden who was inoccent and never did anyone harm.

      A pic of the Empress

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Her body was probably much better than her face. One meter and 72 in height and 50 kg of weight are model tier numbers.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah she was cute, she isn't ugly.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No I am not saying she was ugly, but she didn't have a model tier face, while her body was probably model tier.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I lift 4 her

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      THE ONLY GIRL I'VE EVER LOVED
      WAS BORN WITH ROSES IN HER EYES

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I kneel for the Austrian Empress

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >She developed a horror of fat women
      very based. My Empress I will never dishonor you.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i kneel

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The eternal Empress of IST

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine the smell

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "Simp for your Empress all you want, chudcels. In the end, all that bodywork did her no good"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He looks happy and kind, good for him

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >assassinate woman that wasn't even one of your targets
      >go to prison
      >all the guards and inmates hate the fuck outta you
      >bullied/raped/abused so bad you "have a nice day"
      >Austrians decapitate you and preserve your head for display in an asylum
      Stupid little Italian fuck

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Trips of truth

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/tOiQUX3.jpg

        Trips of truth

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/tOiQUX3.jpg

        Trips of truth

        Dub trips fuck italians

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Austrians should have nuked Italy.

        Italians really are the morons of europe

        He was born to french parents

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No he was the bastard son of an italian mother that abandoned him in an orphanage and moved to the USA.

          >Captcha: WWWDD

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You could say the same about any highly successful person who was assassinated.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Austrians should have nuked Italy.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Italians really are the morons of europe

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the sex though

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Whenever her weight threatened to exceed fifty kilos, a "fasting cure" or "hunger cure" would follow, which involved almost complete fasting. Meat itself often filled her with disgust, so she either had the juice of half-raw beefsteaks squeezed into a thin soup, or else adhered to a diet of milk and eggs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >juice of half-raw beefsteaks
      >diet of milk and eggs
      can such a woman still be found?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Rippletits btfo

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    holy FUCK

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      oh god she did all that riding sidesaddle?

  8. 3 weeks ago
    /shg/ - Sexual Health General

    I kneel.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If she existed today, what boards would she frequent? IST obviously, but what else?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      IST and IST (people back then were more prone to being schizos)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      IST and IST (people back then were more prone to being schizos)

      See, I think she'd browse IST and 4chan, and be active in every fph thread on IST. Maybe IST as well.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >and be active in every fph thread on IST.
        nah
        she is actually disgusted by fat people so she wouldn't go to a thread where they just post pictures of fat people
        also she didn't actually care for politics so she probably wouldn't even care to browse 4chan. No point when you already have to suffer through enough of that discussion by nature of your job
        she'd maybe browse /int/ though

        i'd go with IST, IST, IST and /cgl/
        and yeah probably IST because she seemed a bit schizo

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          IST and IST (people back then were more prone to being schizos)

          >live a healthy life
          >caniballisting humanoid underground dwellers keep calling you schizo
          what has this world come to

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Tbf back then the only people who could become fat had to actively engorge themselves to truly vile degrees since almost everyone was at least somewhat active

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I kneel.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love long hair

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same, it's the single most attractive feature on a woman.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If everyone lived like her, we would be in an interstellar paradise.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, but she doesn't look fit enough for me, rather flaby and weak.
    >> The empress developed extremely rigorous and disciplined exercise habits
    pfffttt HAHAH lol? That image sure as hell doesn't show it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >flaby and weak
      that's her dress bro

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Neck, face, back and shoulders are not "a dress"
        That image looks like somebody who has never done physical activity but didn't eat so much that they got obviously fat.
        So there is no muscle mass, only flab, but its not in such quantiies that it makes her look big.
        But again this is ops picture if you got a better one post it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          OPs picture is a painting. The artist could have easily painted her to be less muscular to give her a more traditional feminine and demure appearance. It was actually a pretty typical practice to alter the subject’s appearance like that. The original instagram filter.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          checked. but bruh dont compare a 19th century monarch to some varbie on instagram. pefectly fine bf for a woman

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not comparing her to a varbie, only physically active women I'v seen in real life that aren't on some juice. Runners, yogas, lifters etc.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              essentially the same thing though: people creating images of themselves highlighting what they perceive as there strengths, lookswise, but trying to conform to other standards now than back then. today female fitness influencers try to be big and hard and lean, basically men but inferior - She just did her own thing, and she obviously was portrayed in exactly the fashion that made her look good for the standards of her time. I mean we're talking about a time where austria was among the top ten most powerfull countries in the world. the painting OP showed wasnt just an artist trying to please his client - it was literally world politics. deducing "she wasnt sub 10 % bf" or "she wasnt 1/2/3/4" out of a fucking contemporary painting just is not fair

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                then.
                post.
                an.
                image that actually illustrates the subject accurately.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >what is a painting?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what is using image that represents your point, I didn't force OP to use it.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Queen varbie

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >A fervent horsewoman, she rode every day for hours on end, becoming probably the world's best, as well as best-known, female equestrian at the time.
    You just KNOW

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      hehe

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shut up Chang

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    She cute

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      im in love

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      looks and sounds ESTP

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >sciatica ended her equestrian career
    I could have saved her bros.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    She fucked every member of her all Hungarian bodyguard.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine how big her ass is

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Franz Joseph was passionately in love with his wife, but she did not reciprocate his feelings fully and felt increasingly stifled by the rigidness of court life. He was an unimaginative and sober man, a political reactionary who was still guided by his mother and her adherence to the strict Spanish Court Ceremonial regarding both his public and domestic life, whereas Elisabeth inhabited a different world altogether. Restless to the point of hyperactivity, naturally introverted, and emotionally distant from her husband, she fled him as well as her duties of life at court, avoiding them both as much as she could. He indulged her wanderings, but constantly and unsuccessfully tried to tempt her into a more domestic life with him
    This would kill me inside.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ???

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >tfw wife doesn't love you
        >tfw wife takes extended trips just so she can be alone

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          no woman loves her man.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            One day you'll find a woman who loves you anon, and you will understand

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Anon I'm more likely to win the lottery than that. I'v spent my entire life looking for her and they don't exist.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I couldn't tell you where to find her but they're out there and they're not unique. I found one and I'm looking for my second.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'v been with many women, even married. None of the women loved me.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                As in been with a married woman, or married a woman who doesn't love you?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'v been multiple relationships with women for over two decades total and married one for many years.
                I can't say any of them loved me.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why did you marry her?
                And on that note, in retrospect, how many of them did you genuinely love?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Why did you marry her?
                They fooled me, or perhaps i'm optimistic and hopeful for
                >THIS one isn't fake like all the rest
                women always lie starting off to appeal to you, then later they drop the act and you see what they really think of you
                >And on that note, in retrospect, how many of them did you genuinely love?
                Hmm
                1, 2, 3, 4, 5, five.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You've been dating for nearly all of the time I've been alive so I don't have any sage wisdom to offer you. Maybe it's just the laws of probability slapping you around, who knows. Then again why drop the act? Are they eager to sleep with you and then get bored? Or do you feel used?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Maybe it's just the laws of probability slapping you around, who knows.
                Do you really want me to give you the long answer?
                >Then again why drop the act? Are they eager to sleep with you and then get bored? Or do you feel used?
                Again long answer but I feel I can give it to you in a short manner.
                Women are insecure and deceitful. When they want to get something they want, they will, entirely pretend to be somebody they are not.
                Good relationships are built on having selfawareness of what you are, what you want from life and from other people and then being open about it. The result is that a lot of people will not like you, but some, will find you align with them and because of that you will be very valuable to them.
                Now I'v been doing this for a long time.
                Trouble is, that women never do that. I'v sat down with girls, talked to them for hours about things and they would agree on them. Only to completely go back on that and break promises years later because "they feel different now"
                but you should read that as
                >I had no awareness of what I am, what I want, what you told me, so I just agreed because I wanted the validation of being with somebody
                Reality is anybody else would do just fine for them. What I was offering, my special brand of what I am, that had no appeal to them and so it's easily discarded later on.

                >Are they eager to sleep with you and then get bored? Or do you feel used?
                They dont' get bore, they don't feel used, they just want something else.

                Reality is that people like me, women like me, men like me, are not likely to exist. So finding one similar to me that values me is so exceedingly rare that the crushing realization that nobody will value your existence pushes on you everyday, beckoning you to end it all.
                I feel alone, I feel like I'm an alien with nothing in common with anybody. I feel like I'm born in the wrong century. I feel like my entire life I'm holding out for that somebody who like me is holding out. Only to grow old, die

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                gif related is kino btw
                >What I was offering, my special brand of what I am, that had no appeal to them and so it's easily discarded later on.
                So they were just settling for you?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >So they were just settling for you?
                No, they actively think they want me and will use decite and selfdelusion to get their goals.
                Once they get it, they realize, oh wait actually this isn't what I want, que the shit phase of the relationship until it ends.
                For them to be settling for me, they have to be actively aware of what I am and making a conscious decision on it.
                Instead is an unconscious,
                >I will play up who I am and will agree to more shit than I actually am willing to agree to.
                And this is with me being as open and honest as possible to not give people the wrong idea of what I am. Which usually filters 99.9% of people out in the first 5min.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >And this is with me being as open and honest as possible to not give people the wrong idea of what I am
                What are you?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Do you really want a fucking essay of all the values and principles that I hold that make up me?
                Do you even care or just throwing out responses?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm asking in good faith, you can answer however you please. I was curious what it is about you that your partners layer decide is a problem.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > I was curious what it is about you that your partners layer decide is a problem.
                Okay that cuts it down considerably form the list of everything that I am.
                The problem for most women is they are creature of sloth and decadence. They desire comfort of luxuries, comfort of "things" comfort of spending money freely, comfort of letting themselves go and so on.
                In essence women by their nature are humanities greatest consuuumers.
                Trash and meaningless things? They must have em, spend money on them.
                Hobbies? Oh you means spending money on going traveling? XD

                They do not want to have a crative hobby. Too much effort and requires one to have a soul.
                They do not want to explore nature that is readily available near by, they need to go to globalist approved toursit spot and take pictures there.
                They do not care about keeping their own health fit, be it with nurtious food or regular physical activity, they want to let themselves go and be "loved" for getting fat, sick, dysfunctional.
                Few, very deep and close relationships are not as valuable as having social media, having thousands of "contacts", etc.

                In essence, in one word if I could describe women, it's "decadence".

                Me? I'm striving into the very opposite direction.
                I want to be fit and healthy all my life.
                All my hobbies and interests, I don't "consuume" I create instead, be it art, tools physical stuff, furniture, buildings, whatever. Create.
                I don't indulge in alcohol, smokes, drugs, sweets, food its to nourish me.
                Rather than desire fame, social media and all that other cancer, I just want a wholesome family unit that prospers.
                I do not require luxuries. I require the necessities for life.
                I like honesty and truth, over "getting results"
                I like patience and calm, over "Hispanicey passion"

                I could go on, really I could, but I think you get a hint of the direction.
                To women all of this translates to
                >You can't be decadent, but you and our family will flourish in good health, sharp mind.
                This is AWFUL.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ok so some asceticism-lite. I'm the same, I pretty much only spend money on necessities and make my own entertainment (or get it for free from libraries/piracy). This has always been an issue with dating since women are hardwired to see men as success objects just as we are hardwired to see them as sex objects. We're all more than that, but that's the foundation of the value we provide and denying it is to deny nature in my opinion.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So women want to be loved for letting go and not putting in effort. That's the peak of their imagination of what a good life is, zero effort, enjoying luxuries and comfort.
                I want to shape myself, my surroundings around me. I want to create as much as possible myself for myself. I want my "consuume" function to make up a tiny portion.
                I want to be loved for the convictions I hold, the sacrifices I make to uphold them and the will to make.
                If I make a cup for myself I will feel far more enjoy than going to the store and buying it.
                If I grow my own food, and have control over quality it fills me with joy.
                If I build my own house, it's a testament.
                If I make a gift, I want it to be absolutely worthless in terms of money but rich in sentimental value.

                Frankly most of society is good goy consuumers so it's very hard to find people who are like minded to me. I can at least find men who I have something similar, some overlap.
                With women? Nothing, they all want to go in the complete opposite way, to decadence.

                I know if I look very hard I can find a male friend who I will get along.
                But all my experience in life leads me to believe I will never find a woman to have a wonderful family with.

                Ok so some asceticism-lite. I'm the same, I pretty much only spend money on necessities and make my own entertainment (or get it for free from libraries/piracy). This has always been an issue with dating since women are hardwired to see men as success objects just as we are hardwired to see them as sex objects. We're all more than that, but that's the foundation of the value we provide and denying it is to deny nature in my opinion.

                >This has always been an issue with dating since women are hardwired to see men as success objects just as we are hardwired to see them as sex objects.
                I don't see them as sex objects, MATE if that was the case, I wouldn't fucking have a problem with them because I would just rub my dick in them and their function would be fufilled.
                The whole reason for my suffering is because I want a P-E-R-S-O-N-A-L-I-T-Y in a woman.
                Getting a woman for sex is EASY, but I'v been trying all my life to get one with a personality to make a life with and I'v failed to find her all this time.
                I swear I want to , I want to so badly find a woman I fall in love with for their personality. When people ask me what do I like about her, my first response would be "her character".

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ok so some asceticism-lite. I'm the same, I pretty much only spend money on necessities and make my own entertainment (or get it for free from libraries/piracy). This has always been an issue with dating since women are hardwired to see men as success objects just as we are hardwired to see them as sex objects. We're all more than that, but that's the foundation of the value we provide and denying it is to deny nature in my opinion.

                So women want to be loved for letting go and not putting in effort. That's the peak of their imagination of what a good life is, zero effort, enjoying luxuries and comfort.
                I want to shape myself, my surroundings around me. I want to create as much as possible myself for myself. I want my "consuume" function to make up a tiny portion.
                I want to be loved for the convictions I hold, the sacrifices I make to uphold them and the will to make.
                If I make a cup for myself I will feel far more enjoy than going to the store and buying it.
                If I grow my own food, and have control over quality it fills me with joy.
                If I build my own house, it's a testament.
                If I make a gift, I want it to be absolutely worthless in terms of money but rich in sentimental value.

                Frankly most of society is good goy consuumers so it's very hard to find people who are like minded to me. I can at least find men who I have something similar, some overlap.
                With women? Nothing, they all want to go in the complete opposite way, to decadence.

                I know if I look very hard I can find a male friend who I will get along.
                But all my experience in life leads me to believe I will never find a woman to have a wonderful family with.

                [...]
                >This has always been an issue with dating since women are hardwired to see men as success objects just as we are hardwired to see them as sex objects.
                I don't see them as sex objects, MATE if that was the case, I wouldn't fucking have a problem with them because I would just rub my dick in them and their function would be fufilled.
                The whole reason for my suffering is because I want a P-E-R-S-O-N-A-L-I-T-Y in a woman.
                Getting a woman for sex is EASY, but I'v been trying all my life to get one with a personality to make a life with and I'v failed to find her all this time.
                I swear I want to , I want to so badly find a woman I fall in love with for their personality. When people ask me what do I like about her, my first response would be "her character".

                Again, you've got 20 years of experience on me - but I think even at my age I can discern between someone who has that drive and lack of complacency and someone who doesn't. And you might say a woman can pretend to have it, but most of the women I know couldn't pretend to have it for say six months. Or a year.

                https://i.imgur.com/e9eZ9hk.jpg

                for me, its Tsar Nicholas II
                >Had a pull up bar in his palace bathroom and in every one of his train carriages
                >The Emperor was a good swimmer and he devoted every moment of his free time to that sport
                >Due to young Alexander's health issues, the entire family would often exercise together, building snow houses, chopping wood and shoveling snow entertained the family during the winter months
                >A strong walker and an indefatigable rower and tennis player... He romped with his children as if he belonged to their age group

                His dad was a mogger
                >Alexander was 190.5 cm (six foot three inches) tall.
                >Alexander was extremely strong. He tore packs of cards in half with his bare hands to entertain his children. When the Austrian ambassador in St. Petersburg said that Austria would mobilize two or three army corps against Russia, he twisted a silver fork into a knot and threw it onto the plate of the ambassador. He said, "That is what I am going to do to your two or three army corps."
                >Unlike his extroverted wife, Alexander disliked social functions and avoided St. Petersburg. At palace balls, he was impatient for the events to end. He would order each musician of the orchestra to leave and turn off the lights until the guests left.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Again, you've got 20 years of experience on me - but I think even at my age I can discern between someone who has that drive and lack of complacency and someone who doesn't. And you might say a woman can pretend to have it, but most of the women I know couldn't pretend to have it for say six months. Or a year.
                They don't have it, and frankly I don't know if they can have it.
                In theory it should be possible but in practice I'v never seen it.
                So most of the time, they attempt to play along, either outright agreeing with the things I say, or promising to try and so on.
                Now you have to understand, if I had an option to pick somebody who already is like...me. I would. But because I'v never seen a woman like that, I imagine, coping, that maybe I have to guide a woman, that the best I can find is a woman who "agrees" with the principles but hasn't progressed far yet due to them being a woman.
                But every time it turns out just fluff and wishful thinking.
                My options are grim
                >settle with somebody I know the family will be weak and dysfunctional due to them having no backbone in themselves
                >die alone
                >keep going through women and hoping that, no no no this time It will be different

                If I follow my rational mind and the judgement it gives on women, then my fate is grim and sealed.
                So I have to resort to being foolishly optimistic to even give people a chance and keep looking.
                Being hurt is bad enough but it's not the worst thing , the worst is the waste of time.
                Time is passing, I can't keep cycling through women forever. By this point I already needed to settle down and built up my buisness.
                Unfortunately I will have to start doing it now and if it's up and running and worse still successful, then I become a walking wallet and provider. All hope of finding a woman who is with me for my personality is out the window.
                Money cannot be part of "I love you for your personality"
                So the advice to just become a wallet does not work.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It be like telling a woman that is looking for a man that wants her for her personality and not just as a fuck hole
                >just give them sex, unlimited sex, all the degenerate sex, have you tried giving more blowjobs and rimjobs?
                >uhhh honey, you can't have a man love you for your personality unless you sex sex sex SEX
                >well have you tried giving sex and maybe he will like your personality then?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Money cannot be part of "I love you for your personality"
                Of course it can, the money is the downstream result of a personality that is ambitious, intelligent, and hard working. But if you're truly looking for a woman who has no worldly desires I don't know what to tell you, they tend to become celibate and join religious orders.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Of course it can, the money is the downstream result of a personality that is ambitious, intelligent, and hard working.
                If you think those three things can only be expressed in getting lots of money, worse still, getting lots of money for the express reason for your female to waste on decadent CRAP then you have the consuuumer mindset.
                >But if you're truly looking for a woman who has no worldly desires I don't know what to tell you,
                I want a woman that values the relationship between us more, yes MORE than baubles and trinkets.

                Also, I have an extremely high sex drive, if I had my way I would have 1-2 hour sex, 6 times a day. But naturally that is quite the time commitment so I refrain from doing so often.
                Now knowing this, realize the fact that I don't do hook ups, I don't just meet women just for sex.
                I don't even jerk off that often.
                I want intimacy, feelings mixed in with all of the sexo.
                If I, a SEX FIEND can restrain and control myself and honestly at this point in my heart want intimacy and romantic relationship before sexo.
                Then there must be a woman out there that can control her lust for spending her husbands money.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Have you considered the possibility that there are plenty of women who fit that bill out there but that something about you or your mating strategy leads them to reject you or never encounter you in the first place?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Have you considered the possibility that there are plenty of women who fit that bill
                did you read just that post or have you been following the discussion?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I read your posts and I didn't see it addressed, although perhaps I missed one.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's not addressed directly but indirectly.

                >They do not want to have a crative hobby. Too much effort and requires one to have a soul.
                Should have stopped reading earlier but this is where the bullshit got to be too much. Creative hobbies are gay btw it's harder to find a woman that doesn't care about writing or artistry or some gay shit. You're not a fucking pro and never will be so just stop.
                Anyway of you think girls don't have hobbies you literally just don't leave your room. Just go to any kind of club and prepare to have your mind BLOWN. Or walk into college campus

                >Should have stopped reading earlier but this is where the bullshit got to be too much
                >Creative hobbies are gay btw
                >it's harder to find a woman that doesn't care about writing or artistry or some gay shit.
                How many of them make something, how many of them make quality art, or writting, or craft something, or make high quality clothes, etc?
                OR are you, please don't tell me, talking about women enjoying to consuuume those things that are made by others.
                > You're not a fucking pro and never will be so just stop.
                I have no idea what this fortnite speak is supposed to mean.
                >Anyway of you think girls don't have hobbies you literally just don't leave your room.
                ah yes, the guy who interacts with women all his life and was married, certainly doesn't leave his room
                >Just go to any kind of club and prepare to have your mind BLOWN.
                The only thing that gets blown is my dick

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >How many of them make something, how many of them make quality art, or writing
                My ex just had her novel published, the one she wrote while doing her masters degree. I think you or your dating strategy need work.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >My ex just had her novel published
                Don't know on what grounds to address this first on.
                The fact that you can be a consumer and produce a novel.
                The fact there isn't even any proof of the claim.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ok, final response, I'm out for the night. You said women don't have hobbies and just consoom, I told you my ex is a writer and just had a great novel she wrote published as counter-evidence to your claim. She's a very creative, driven person who never bothered me about money issues for the years we were together and flat out refused money from her father when he offered to help her pay for grad school. As for proof, absolutely not. I would never doxx myself on this God forsaken site, and I certainly wouldn't do it to her. I guess I'll end with this- if you think something is wrong with every woman and can't find what you're looking for, consider the possibility, however remote, that the fault is on your end. If you find it to be true maybe it isn't too late to turn things around. Peace breh.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                One can write anything on IST.
                But over 2 decades of experience and hundreds of women tell me otherwise to your claim.
                >if you think something is wrong with every woman and can't find what you're looking for, consider the possibility, however remote, that the fault is on your end
                >If you find it to be true maybe it isn't too late to turn things around.
                is this a roastie larping as a dude?
                >my g.f is very creative wink wonk, and she doesnt' care about money and is totally not a consumer and she care about health, there is lots of women like this hahaha, seething incel why dont you leave you room

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Idk I have an ex-gf who's like that anon's ex-wife (I'm the first one who started asking you questions) so I'm more inclined to agree with him than you. It's an anonymous internet forum m8, if you go down this rabbithole of asking for proof then you'll end up disappointed

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah just like everybody on fit has an 8incher
                >It's an anonymous internet forum m8, if you go down this rabbithole of asking for proof then you'll end up disappointed
                I'm not asking for proof, I'm pointing out that anybody can type out any kind of shit on the internet. Since it goes heavily against my life long experience, with hundreds of women in 3 different countries I'm not going to take his word for it and just believe.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Since it goes heavily against my life long experience, with hundreds of women in 3 different countries
                Well the common denominator in all of those relationships was you

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Absolutely pointless statement, it doesn't address anything.
                Common denominator can be also that they were all women, that it was on plant earth, that they all drink water, etc etc.
                Just because you found a common denominator doesn't mean much of anything.
                The core of the issue was already addressed in the opening posts.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                stop having sex before marriage. Traditional girls will respect you for wanting to wait. By having sex before marriage, you out yourself as someone consumed by lust. Despite your words about wanting a personality, your actions suggest that you want a body. No more playing around

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Traditional girls will respect you for wanting to wait.
                One I don't believe in having a trait or acting a certain way to "get somebody" is right.
                You either agree on an action philosophically or through inner motivation of what you think is right, or you don't.
                That said, again I'm currently looking for personality not sex. I can easily spend years not having sex with a potential wife, if her personality keeps me happy and engaged. But that is a tall order for women, as most rely on having a hole and not much else.
                >By having sex before marriage, you out yourself as someone consumed by lust.
                Well what I can say about that is that I'v never done hookups just for sex.
                Almost all of my relationships were intended to be longterm and hopefully for life, but things don't workout always as you wish.
                I did however in one relationship push for sex because I was lustful and wanted it. After having regular sex with a partner, all other relationships were intended to be for life.
                So yes I was lustful once, but not other times. Regardless of how horny I can be or can't be.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They do not want to have a crative hobby. Too much effort and requires one to have a soul.
                Should have stopped reading earlier but this is where the bullshit got to be too much. Creative hobbies are gay btw it's harder to find a woman that doesn't care about writing or artistry or some gay shit. You're not a fucking pro and never will be so just stop.
                Anyway of you think girls don't have hobbies you literally just don't leave your room. Just go to any kind of club and prepare to have your mind BLOWN. Or walk into college campus

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Or actually you don't even need to leave your room. The internet has enough proof enough. In fact, you don't even need to leave IST. Just go on over to /cgl/ or something.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You sound incredibly stuck up and self absorbed. I understand rejecting the values of the modern world, yet it sounds like you reject any form of pleasure, denouncing it all as "decadence". Perhaps you would get along with Puritans.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You sound incredibly stuck up and self absorbed.
                and here it comes "w-what you think you're better than me, wow you are arrogant" etc.
                Tell people who eat candy you think eating candy is shit for health and they will take it as a direct attack on them.
                >yet it sounds like you reject any form of pleasure
                But I don't, you just made this up on the spot, there is plenty of pleasure to enjoy, the only difference is that I sacrifice some, key word "some" pleasure for long term happiness and this freaks you people out.

                Maybe they left you because you're a melodramatic fag.

                >maybe random guess
                very insightful

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Have you tried killing yourself? I don't really know what that means but I haven't heard anyone complain after doing it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                nah sorry this is another one of those "decadence" things that I shun, but you can ask your progressive friends, tanny, trammy or something on how that goes, I'm sure they have statistics on that

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                go to Church, bro. It is the only way.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That would seem to be the way but I have a few issues with it.
                One, I don't believe in god, I do agree with the values christianity pushes for the most part though.
                I'm honest and I do not want to lie, so "pretending" just to get good christian wife is immoral in my eyes.
                So while a lot of my values overlap with theirs, I do so purely out of my own will and sense, let to my own judgement thats what I decided.
                I am not sure somebody who believes they will be punished for not doing something and that being their motivation to stay moral is the right fit for me.
                Again I do these things not because I know something after death awaits me, but precicely because I know this life is all there is. And I'm moral not because I believe the world is a wonderful place that will reward me for putting on airs of being a goody good person, but precicely because the world doesn't innately posses morality, it's a human construct, and it is the people, who create and maintain morality, ethics, discipline while they are alive, you enjoy what you create for yourself.
                If one cannot be the good they wish to see in the world, the prove to themselves such good cannot exist in the world for even they could not manifest it in themselves, regardless of how much they desire it.
                So yeah, I don't think I can accept being religious and believing in god, and I don't want to be deceitful. So I am really not sure how christians would feel about that and how a religous wife would work in combination with me.
                I imagine better than decadent coomer, substance abusing tatooed women though.

                stop having sex before marriage. Traditional girls will respect you for wanting to wait. By having sex before marriage, you out yourself as someone consumed by lust. Despite your words about wanting a personality, your actions suggest that you want a body. No more playing around

                >stop having sex before marriage.
                I'm at the point where I don't care about sex before marrige at all.
                I want personality, psirit, a woman who I can love for who she is, not because she rides my dick.
                I would consider it a blessing if I could say I'm with a woman for her personality and not her body.
                continued in next post

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you will never believe in the Word of God until you understand that you are a sinner and need to be saved from the sin in your heart. No more moaning about the evils of the world, see the evil in yourself and understand your need for a Savior.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you will never believe in the Word of God until you understand that you are a sinner and need to be saved from the sin in your heart.
                I do acknowledge the potential for evil, and the fuck ups one has done or can do.
                I do not believe in submiting to a higher power I don't believe exists.
                Instead I believe in changing myself and striving for something better, the good I wish to see in the world, or the good I wish to be.
                >No more moaning about the evils of the world, see the evil in yourself and understand your need for a Savior.
                Oh I understand the evil in myself, I have no delusions and don't think of myself pure or incapable of sin.
                It's precisely because I don't don't pretend that it doesn't exist, that I hope to avoid the typical pitfalls of delusional people who like to act virtuous but use holier than thou to abuse others under the cover of righteousness.
                Anyway, I don't believe there is a Savior looking out for me, I don't believe any good will come into the world that I wont take effort to put there. and of course the effort of other people in the world that choose to do so.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yOU DELUDE YOURSELF. tHERE'S NO OBJECTIVE GOODNESS WITHOUT GOD.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I believe the good that exists in the world, can only come into existence by the effort of people. And it is maintained exactly as long as people exude it through their actions.
                Taking on that responsibility, people have to grapple with the complex question of what is good, they have to actively judge themselves and their actions, what they might consider good, might be selfish and not good for others, or what they might consider pointless or neglect, might be good for others.
                By having to constantly interact with that question, they are more likely to be awake of their actions and how it affects others.

                Rather than finding comfort in having the responsibility pushed off to something else such as god. It's also harder to manipulate each person for your own ill gain when they are told to think actively, rather than obey your word, which you will call the word of god.

                God is a comforting though, but nothing in life for me points towards it being a real thing. And so in the absence of a universal good looking over us and giving us meaning and judgement.
                We are to accept that life is devoid of inherit meaning, devoid of inherit objective good, and it falls on each person to create meaning for their own life, to create good they wish to see in the world.
                Life thus becomes as meaningful or meaningless as you make it, the world becomes as devoid of good, or as filled with good as you make it.

                Which is why it's so important to push back against entropy of the universe and impose order and structure while the flame of your life flickers for a moment in the grand scale of things.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It is pointless to search for meaning in a world without God. Any meaning you might find in a temporary life is ultimately relative, you have to actively ignore your finite existence.

                You seem to understand that we can't exist without meaning, but you fail to provide the source of that meaning.
                >Life thus becomes as meaningful or meaningless as you make it
                This is a cop-out, a nothing answer. It's like telling a depressed person to just stop being sad. Something does not come from nothing anon.

                >people decide what is and isn't good
                Moral relativism falls apart when two people with competing ideas of what constitutes goodness meet. If my idea of good is to genocide the garden gnomes and yours is to do the opposite, whose good is the right one? I find that people like you tend to gravitate towards universal harm reduction or utilitarianism as moral precepts. These ideas have led to the greatest atrocities ever committed by humankind.

                If we can't agree that something like the holocaust was objectively evil. Objectively. Not because we decided it was evil but because it just is. Then we will never reach an agreement and your heart has hardened to a degree that you may never see the light.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It is pointless to search for meaning in a world without God. Any meaning you mi
                I didn't tell you to search for it. I told you to create it.
                >in a temporary life is ultimately relative
                Yes, such is life, one animal eats another, for one animal it's a joyous moment, for the other their end. Actions can be complex, and as much as we wish for simplicity and absolution of responsibility, it is never the less the duty of each human to be active in the process if they wish to be as moral as possible
                >you have to actively ignore your finite existence.
                This finite existance is all we have left, you should make the best of it because what you do here, now matters, it affects others, and it will pass on to future generations and so on. Your life might end, but your actions do affect others than will live on beyond your lifespan. Rather than place emphasis on something you never experienced, can't prove, don't know if it exists, I can for myself tell everything I do now, matters because it affects real things and just because I wont be here forever, doesn't mean that it's rendered pointless.
                One can plant a tree for fruits you will never enjoy, does that mean that the action itself was meaningless? Even if you know future generations will enjoy it?

                >You seem to understand that we can't exist without meaning, but you fail to provide the source of that meaning.
                I told you the source
                >and it falls on each person to create meaning for their own life, to create good they wish to see in the world.
                I practically can't be more explicit than that. Each person creates it, or doesn't.
                >This is a cop-out, a nothing answer. It's like telling a depressed person to just stop being sad. Something does not come from nothing anon.
                You seem to think that anything that comes from yourself is not big enough, not important enough.
                I think the actions of a person through out their life carries far more weight than the notions of some higher being looking over us.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I told you to create it.
                The reasoning you give for meaning beyond death does not apply universally:
                >Your life might end, but your actions do affect others than will live on beyond your lifespan.
                If this is the source of meaning. What about those who have had no affect on others beyond their lifespan? Those whose names have been forgotten? Those who never had offspring? Were their lives meaningless?
                >One can plant a tree for fruits you will never enjoy, does that mean that the action itself was meaningless? Even if you know future generations will enjoy it?
                What if the tree failed to acquire nutrients and died before producing fruit? What if a mother loses every one of her children? You cannot know what affect you will have after your death, if any at all. This is no basis to build meaning from.

                >duty of each human to be active in the process if they wish to be as moral as possible
                What is moral?

                >I think the actions of a person through out their life carries far more weight than the notions of some higher being looking over us.
                That higher being is transcendent anon. By definition the actions of the infinite are infinitely more meaningful than those of the finite. God is the source of all goodness, all purpose, all meaning. The actions of those moral people you speak of can only be good in the context of God's will.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What about those who have had no affect on others beyond their lifespan?
                Almost everybody has some effect on others during their lifespan. Those people can affect others and so on. Which can affect future generations and so on.
                I don't see the need for grandiosity here, why do you need to have an eternal life or else everything is meaningless. Why do you need to have a direct view on how your actions affect the future generation be it through something you invent or your kids, etc.
                Why can't you accept to do good and justice , right now in the moment, and let that echo through people and time in a steady stream?
                Must a higher entity descend from the sky and congratulate you for being nice to your neighbor? Isn't all of this some kind of vanity?
                >What if the tree failed to acquire nutrients and died before producing fruit? What if a mother loses every one of her children?
                Look on the other side, what if one of those small actions, actually ends up being big?
                Or if we apply your logic, what if god isn't real?
                Or how about the fact we never do a single action through out our life? It's always a multitude over the course of life.
                Just a couple of things to address.
                >This is no basis to build meaning from.
                Because you need some form of authority to tell you what is and what isn't? Wouldn't know if stabbing your friendly neighbor or giving them some food are different on the moral scale?
                >What is moral?
                Already answerd, each person has to pay attention and constantly re-access the answer to that question if they are to be that.

                >That higher being is transcendent anon.
                That we don't know even exists.
                >By definition the actions of the infinite are infinitely more meaningful than those of the finite.
                Do you also consider killing lesser lifeforms to be a whatever kind of deal?
                >God is the source of all goodness, all purpose, all meaning.
                These things don't really mean anything to me, it's like saying "god is real because bible says so"

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The actions of those moral people you speak of can only be good in the context of God's will.
                They can be moral in the context of their own judgement, or in the context of other people.
                And unlike god, you can constantly re-asses and question how good you are actually are. Unlike god, you can ask other people how good you are from their perspective.
                Self reflection one will take effort, as will interacting with others.
                You know what wont take effort...?

                >If everyone on Earth right now suddenly decided that rape was perfectly okay, moral, and good. Would that make it good?
                Think logically. If everybody agreed that "rape" is good, then everybody agrees to the fucking, so its consensual, so it's not "rape".

                Also I didn't say "what is right will be voted by the majority"
                What is right and what is wrong, doesn't get decided by how many people are for or against it.
                When I said they will talk it over and possibly reach a higher understanding, I mean that the exchange of ideas can foster new perspectives.
                >If the Nazis had won the war, the majority of people on Earth would likely have come to the conclusion that the Holocaust was perfectly okay, moral, and good.
                You mean like the victor of any war is always the hero and the loser always the big bad?
                What about those christian crusades? Or witch burning?
                Almost as if, history is filled with too many people using "us vs them" mentality to always play themselves as the heroes and others as bad and you are supposed to just accept whatever the narrative tells you. Don't question it, don't think, just accept.

                I'm quite opposed to that and think nothing should be off limits to discussion.

                >What if we decide to talk things out about our morality, but the side opposing you are far better orators and debaters than you are
                Again, "us vs them" mentality and "I have to win, I have to prove IM RIGHT"
                This is the wrong mentality, the correct one is, "we need to find out what is right" and either side can be right, or wrong, but the clash of information and discussion can bring people closer to the truth of the matter.
                > They defeat your arguments with wit and intelligence, and you are forced to concede. Does that make your morals wrong, and theirs right?
                If one side makes a compelling, logical argument, what is wrong with considering it?
                What wold be the alternative? Regardless of how logical or sound an an idea is, to ignore it and instead believe something else?

                Anon if this thread is still up tomorrow I'll keep talking with you.

                If not, my advice:
                Brush up on your philosophy. Start with Socrates.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Brush up on your philosophy. Start with Socrates.
                I'v never read philosophy, but I do like to think. Especially when there is another person to discuss those things with.

                https://i.imgur.com/DCUC2DB.jpg

                >IST
                >for God's sake
                Yes.

                he really stepped into that one lol!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The actions of those moral people you speak of can only be good in the context of God's will.
                They can be moral in the context of their own judgement, or in the context of other people.
                And unlike god, you can constantly re-asses and question how good you are actually are. Unlike god, you can ask other people how good you are from their perspective.
                Self reflection one will take effort, as will interacting with others.
                You know what wont take effort...?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Moral relativism falls apart when two people with competing ideas of what constitutes goodness meet.
                Yes almost as if you have to put in effort in figuring things out and can't just rest easy knowing you are free of sin and can do no wrong.
                By accepting that what we are doing might not be right, we have to more often, re access if what we are doing is actually good or not.
                Again, I understand why people want absolution of responsibility and effort. I don't agree that such things will bring good though. And again it makes people more open for manipulation and exploration by those that want their own gain above all.
                >If my idea of good is to genocide the garden gnomes and yours is to do the opposite, whose good is the right one?
                To talk it over and see why either side believes what they believe, seeing what the problems are, exploring solutions, etc. A simplistic, me right, u wrong, is lazy. US vs THEM mentality.
                > I find that people like you tend to gravitate towards universal harm reduction or utilitarianism as moral precepts. These ideas have led to the greatest atrocities ever committed by humankind.
                You are going to have to elaborate on that.
                >If we can't agree that something like the holocaust was objectively evil.
                What about if the holocaust happened at all? In your race to appear virtuous did you ever care if you were actually virtuous, or only come off as such?
                >Then we will never reach an agreement and your heart has hardened to a degree that you may never see the light.
                Pushing things like "either you agree or else" isn't very nice anon. Discussion of things is important, especially things that one might consider good or evil. By desiring simplicity and obidience, you once again, open up the door for domination, abuse, closed mindedness and so on.
                I can, explain why I think any one thing is good or evil. Another person could give their opinion on the same things and his might be different, assuming there is some logical reason, new opinions are created

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Yes almost as if you have to put in effort in figuring things out
                >To talk it over and see why either side believes what they believe, seeing what the problems are, exploring solutions, etc
                If everyone on Earth right now suddenly decided that rape was perfectly okay, moral, and good. Would that make it good? If the Nazis had won the war, the majority of people on Earth would likely have come to the conclusion that the Holocaust was perfectly okay, moral, and good. Would that make it good? What if we decide to talk things out about our morality, but the side opposing you are far better orators and debaters than you are. They defeat your arguments with wit and intelligence, and you are forced to concede. Does that make your morals wrong, and theirs right?

                >You are going to have to elaborate on that.
                It's just the simplest way to quantify good and evil without God. Pain = Bad and Happiness = Good. This opens the door to unimaginable evil.

                >Pushing things like "either you agree or else" isn't very nice anon.
                Are you really going to tell me that there aren't certain things you would consider evil regardless of argument? Child abuse? Rape? Slavery?

                >each person has to pay attention and constantly re-access the answer to that question if they are to be that
                What do you do with someone who commits evil, let's say they kill somebody else, but they simply hadn't self-reflected enough to figure out what is a isn't moral. Do you punish them? Do you send them to jail? They were in the process of self-reflection, they just didn't figure it out yet. How can you blame them when they had no basis to build from besides themself?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >If everyone on Earth right now suddenly decided that rape was perfectly okay, moral, and good. Would that make it good?
                Think logically. If everybody agreed that "rape" is good, then everybody agrees to the fucking, so its consensual, so it's not "rape".

                Also I didn't say "what is right will be voted by the majority"
                What is right and what is wrong, doesn't get decided by how many people are for or against it.
                When I said they will talk it over and possibly reach a higher understanding, I mean that the exchange of ideas can foster new perspectives.
                >If the Nazis had won the war, the majority of people on Earth would likely have come to the conclusion that the Holocaust was perfectly okay, moral, and good.
                You mean like the victor of any war is always the hero and the loser always the big bad?
                What about those christian crusades? Or witch burning?
                Almost as if, history is filled with too many people using "us vs them" mentality to always play themselves as the heroes and others as bad and you are supposed to just accept whatever the narrative tells you. Don't question it, don't think, just accept.

                I'm quite opposed to that and think nothing should be off limits to discussion.

                >What if we decide to talk things out about our morality, but the side opposing you are far better orators and debaters than you are
                Again, "us vs them" mentality and "I have to win, I have to prove IM RIGHT"
                This is the wrong mentality, the correct one is, "we need to find out what is right" and either side can be right, or wrong, but the clash of information and discussion can bring people closer to the truth of the matter.
                > They defeat your arguments with wit and intelligence, and you are forced to concede. Does that make your morals wrong, and theirs right?
                If one side makes a compelling, logical argument, what is wrong with considering it?
                What wold be the alternative? Regardless of how logical or sound an an idea is, to ignore it and instead believe something else?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It's just the simplest way to quantify good and evil without God. Pain = Bad and Happiness = Good. This opens the door to unimaginable evil.
                >the simplest
                I though I made it clear that I'm for people actively putting in effort to think to specifically reach a better and more responsive answer. And that "simple, comforting" is something I said about god.
                If you want to move away from the idea of relinquishing your responsibility to a concept of a god and to carry it yourself, you have to accept that it isn't easy.
                >This opens the door to unimaginable evil.
                A lot of things do, blind obedience and faith that you can do no wrong as long as you are doing what the tribe, cult, religion tells you to is also a common one.
                >Are you really going to tell me that there aren't certain things you would consider evil regardless of argument? Child abuse? Rape? Slavery?
                I would not demand people just accept them as bad, I would instead give long list of reasons and explanation as to why they are bad, hear what the other side has to say for them and continue exchange of ideas. It should be relatively simple to explain why those things are bad.
                Key point here is that bad things are easy to explain as to why they are bad, that is precisely why we consider them to be bad, because of the ample and easy ways to pick it apart.
                I mean it's like a person telling you to just accept that that putting your hand on hot things is bad and no he wont explain it and will be very outraged if you ask him to explain. You'd think explaining that would be dead simple.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What do you do with someone who commits evil, let's say they kill somebody else, but they simply hadn't self-reflected enough to figure out what is a isn't moral.
                A good question that all societies have to answer.
                I suppose there is many possible answers to this and societies are free to choose which one they consider right.
                This is certainly a big topic and I could go across the board about the many different ways the situation can be handled before the fact, during, and after the fact. Bringing merits and cons to each approach.
                But yeah this is a reallly long topic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A second anon asked you that question, but I was interested as well

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe they left you because you're a melodramatic fag.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                real shit same here. Life greatly rewards and then takes away from the delusional optimist.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Trouble is, that women never do that. I'v sat down with girls, talked to them for hours about things and they would agree on them. Only to completely go back on that and break promises years later because "they feel different now"
                No offense, but it seems that you are to blame here, for playing with open cards.
                Instead you should have judged them by their actions, not their words, and shit-tested them to see if they are a good fit

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >No offense, but it seems that you are to blame here, for playing with open cards.
                I already said I belive in being honest and people self filtering themselves based on what they see and hear from me.
                >Instead you should have judged them by their actions,
                Their actions eventually thats what they are judged by, yes.
                >and shit-tested them to see if they are a good fit
                I don't believe shit-tests are moral. Sure you can get an answer as to what a person would do by faking situations and so on. Additionally it's much more easy for deceitful people to fake the results of one short term test. Both women and men.
                But nobody can keep up the facade for years and years and years. And that's where they all slip up.
                Shit-tests don't protect your from deceitful people and it shows a certain level of inauthenticity where you need to feel in control by doing disingenuous things to get some kind of answers.
                So simply put
                >doesn't guarantee you filter out deceitful people
                >ruins your chances with honest, good, genuine people
                So I wont do them.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I already said I belive in being honest and people self filtering themselves based on what they see and hear from me.
                Your life experience disproves your believes.

                Also, if you don't like shit tests, you should be looking in environments where people naturally align with your values. Another anon has already mentioned church

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Your life experience disproves your believes.
                Because I didn't get the ultimate happy end?
                You have to understand I filter out a lot of women, and the ones that make it through, are enjoyable and very promising for a couple of years.
                If I didn't do that, based on what I have observed on other people and their relationships, people pretend to be something they are not and exhaust themselves during the relationship for the crumb of not being alone, then the facade crumbles eventually and things fall apart.

                I stay consistent to what I set out from day one, it's the best I can do and I just need to find somebody else like me.
                I'm looking for life long relationship and happiness, while more deceitful options that you suggest are good for getting short term pleasure and sex.

                >Also, if you don't like shit tests, you should be looking in environments where people naturally align with your values
                This is reasonable advice and in part I have been attempting that. Trouble is, it's hard to find such places, or there is nobody in such places, or their age group is completely different than mine, by a huge age gap.
                >Another anon has already mentioned church
                And as I said, while some values align and I certainly think I would prefer them over normie degenerates.
                I have some, doubts about it because of
                >don't believe in god
                >don't consider it right to lie about it just to "fit in" to get a lovely wife
                etc.
                I mean I should check it out, but I'm not sure how I as a non believer can fit in there and be accepted. Even if my sense of morality and values is relatively close to theirs.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If that was true. Why are you looking for another anon?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Much as she loved me, she wanted to spend her life abroad and I'm a patriot - I came to this country and I want to live and die here. We broke up on very good terms. God willing we find our way back to one another but if we don't, oh well.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                holy cringe amerishart

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                women gaslight themselves into "love" when they find a man of higher value they need to lock down ASAP

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So Ferraris don’t exist, because you couldn’t buy one yet?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'v seen a ferrari, I'v been in a ferrari.
                I'v never in my life seen a woman with a personality that strives towards frugal lifestyle with lots of creative outputs, rather than a decadent lifestyle with lors of luxuries and baubles.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That sounds like your problem, not a problem of them not existing. I’ve never been in a Ferrari, and if I’ve seen one I can’t remember it. But I’ll take your word for them existing and being a nice car before I assume based on my own bad luck that they don’t, and everybody else is just lying or stupid or something.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                terrible bait post, go troll somewhere else.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            this. I'd like to believe true love exists, but I'd also like to believe in Santa Claus

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This

            One day you'll find a woman who loves you anon, and you will understand

            lol incel

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She did give him a mistress

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw you'll never find a woman like her

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Austrian

    Why did Germans separate themselves in two different countries?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >all German states in are in the >H>R>E which is halfway between being a country and just an EU-style confederation of states
      >Napoleon puts it out of its misery and then it really does become a confederation
      >A little later a lot of Germans point out it would be a really good idea to unify into one big country so that France and Russia could stop marching into German lands and raping everything
      >Obvious candidate is Austria (ruled the HRE for a long time, also the largest state)
      >But Austria also rules a bunch of non-Germans ethnicities, Austria has a population of 36 million in 1855 but only 8 million of them are actual German
      >Next biggest state is Prussia which swallowed a bunch of Poles but is mostly German
      >And is headed by a guy who really wants to make sure Prussia is the big guy in the German house
      >Two camps form, those who support Big Germany (Austria rules everyone) and those who support Small Germany (Prussia rules everyone except Austria)
      >A few diplomatic crises and wars later, Germany is formed, and since they just beat France they do it in Paris
      This is basically how it's remained ever since, although Austria lost all of that non-German mass after WW1 and a certain painter tried to unify the two before WW2.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >a certain painter tried to unify the two before WW2.
        Oh shit.

        Man, I wonder how the world would look like today had he succeeded.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Austrians are germanized slavs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's more that they were never unified to begin with.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder if the guy I stole this thread from is still around to see it get 100 replies. I didn't think it would get much

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    for me, its Tsar Nicholas II
    >Had a pull up bar in his palace bathroom and in every one of his train carriages
    >The Emperor was a good swimmer and he devoted every moment of his free time to that sport
    >Due to young Alexander's health issues, the entire family would often exercise together, building snow houses, chopping wood and shoveling snow entertained the family during the winter months
    >A strong walker and an indefatigable rower and tennis player... He romped with his children as if he belonged to their age group

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      do you have the image of him with a bicyle that reads
      >let me guess you *need* more?

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's an incredibly beautiful painting

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Okay never mind, you're retarded.
    Not an argument.
    >You're really retarded.
    Ah, you are at the stage where you think being emotionally outraged make you right and the more outraged you are, the more right you are.
    >holy shit lmao now im just dying how can anyone be this dumb. I'm now conviced youre just some dumb
    As expected.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You think she had aspergers?

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >mats and balance beams
    >fervent horsewoman, she rode every day for hours on end, becoming probably the world's best
    >forcing her shit on others
    >ugly butterface like every purebred asstrian
    I live in Austria. These people are disgusting looking. Thier women look like farm animals. She was a typical asstrian autist forcing her bullshit on others.

    The best decision of my life is to scam these disgusting garden gnomes and thier governments.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hey Ahmed, how are you doing?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Shoo shoo, subhuman sand person.

        I'm white with light eyes and education but the asstrians are still a pain in the ass. They butthurt because thier country is flooded with balkan gypsies and sand morons.

        These people are just disgusting and voted as the most unpleasant people in europe multiple times. Live among them if you don't believe. No wonder Hitler left this shithole and dropped his asstrian citizenship.

        I love taking thier money. I will apply for mental illness benefits soon hahaha.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I'm white
          posts hands lol

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous
            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              moron the palm doesn't count

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                *sigh*
                There you go

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nice try. Bit obvious, lol.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lmao you really think that palm belongs to a brown person? Just because my name is Usman Ismail Abdulhamanap doesn't mean I'm not Caucasian. Bigot.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes I have seen the screen cap too buddy

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sure Mohammed, just stay away from children ok?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            OK mgumbu just post me any info on asstrian retirement I wanna do it ASAP and move somewhere close to the sea.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shoo shoo, subhuman sand person.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      I'm white with light eyes and education but the asstrians are still a pain in the ass. They butthurt because thier country is flooded with balkan gypsies and sand morons.

      These people are just disgusting and voted as the most unpleasant people in europe multiple times. Live among them if you don't believe. No wonder Hitler left this shithole and dropped his asstrian citizenship.

      I love taking thier money. I will apply for mental illness benefits soon hahaha.

      If you crawl the path of the mentally ill reject of society, that you have chosen, you will end like a maggot, the illnesses that you fake becoming a reality and consuming you.
      Stand up and walk the hard path like a man. Make something out of yourself.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Or I will live my life as I want to, sleep until 11 and not waking myself up at 6am and force feed and shit myself.

        I could only endure the wageslave life with cigs, weed and alcohol.
        I'm much happier just training, eating healthy, which you can't in most jobs and owning my own fucking time.

        Just because I'm neeting on a garden gnome gynocentric disgusting society that doesn't mean I'm not trying to do something with myself. Last years I made more money speculating on bullshit than I did in my whole life. Yeah I lost 90%of it but I'm still net positive. Hard work only pays off when you born rich and have many options open.
        Thx my dude but I'm feeling just fine and I will sooner get shredded as fuck and sell my ass on onlyfans or draw furry porn than waste my life away say by day and age like milk due to stress and unhappiness.
        I'm 30 and all the people I knew growing up ended up miserable or mediocre. Only the rich bastards are doing fine and they all larp as self made. Also many of my uneducated female peers are getting manager jobs just because they got a moist hole between their legs. I'm done with being the productive wage force behind companies while useless whores are getting paid as much or more than me.

        That being said I also work on acquiring skills and knowledge that will be useful later to start my own gigs and business. Fuck wageslaving I'm not hungry anymore. Neither should any of you.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      I'm white with light eyes and education but the asstrians are still a pain in the ass. They butthurt because thier country is flooded with balkan gypsies and sand morons.

      These people are just disgusting and voted as the most unpleasant people in europe multiple times. Live among them if you don't believe. No wonder Hitler left this shithole and dropped his asstrian citizenship.

      I love taking thier money. I will apply for mental illness benefits soon hahaha.

      https://i.imgur.com/E9Ls8Oc.jpg

      https://i.imgur.com/gF8izDH.jpg

      *sigh*
      There you go

      Good god the mutt cope. Ywnbw and ywn have someone at or above Austrian beauty, being a halfbreed and all.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Post your hand then Sergey.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >be Emperor
    >love a woman
    >she doesn't love you back and actively avoids you until the day she dies

    I relate to him even though I'm not a royal.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Elisabeth used cosmetics and perfume sparingly, as she wished to showcase her natural beauty.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kek smelly Austrian inbred mountains have eyes whore. She wasnt just an autist but an unwashed Dweller too.

      What money does to a mfer.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      based, I HATE women theat use perfume, soaps and so on that make them reek like a chemical factory.
      I wish for my women to be water clean and smell nice because they are healthy and fit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >he doesn't know
        One day you might learn that pussy reeks, gentlesir

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I know how pussy smells.
          For me in fact, I preffer if it's water washed regularly rather than with soap and less often.
          P.S I also enjoy the slight smell of urine because when I was 14, I stuffed my face is prime 13 year old dicky and the smell was distinct but not strong, so it was a stimulating experience.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well sorry then mr dicky connoisseur.
            I prefer my nose as far as possible from cunthole and do only missionary with the sole goal of cumming as fast as I can.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              dicky you want to sniff, is by definition best dicky. dicky that reaks and makes you want to avoid it is bad.
              Their health, diet, fitness, what they washed with all make a difference.
              For me it's just water is enough if they are healthy.
              I also like to have her mouth on my gentials and mine on hers, then proceed to SEXO and be kissing while we hold hands, leading to maximum fluid exchange.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anons please how is it possible hair that long

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She had a team of servants that helped her take care or her hair

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >hire painter
      >tell him he either paints you as an attractive maiden or his family gets tortured
      These paintings are all 'filters enabled' bro.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      [...]

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There is hope

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bros her spirit is listening to this thread, make her proud by being strong

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Damn based empress, some royals truly were a cut above

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >got infinite wealth and privileges.
      >does nothing but go full autism about gymnastics and horse riding
      Perfect example of a shitstain. I bet she was megadepressed after 30 when her looks faded. Good.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You sound bitter about someone living a life they enjoyed with some passion and commitment.
        She was born into an extremely structured and controlled way of life, in a time period where women weren't given any serious voice and was basically a fuck thing for her Husband. Luckily he was nice enough to let her go and do her own thing.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    She's going up on the IST homegym wall along with Jesus, the boxer at rest, and Joan of arc

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just want to talk about IST historical figures for God's sake.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >IST
      >for God's sake
      Yes.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        basado my fellow shitposter

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    gay ass autist blogger shit up and derailed this thread. Fuck you you narcissist moron.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fuck the morons that took the bait, here a reconstruction of based Empress Elizabeth from Madame Tussauds in Austria.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah this is totally reflects the reality lol you ugly goblin simp.
      Austrians are famously ugly.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just compare it to a photo of the time my angry muslim baiter friend. Praise the empress of IST.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Looks like my retarded half sister. She is one quarter retarded while my other half sis is full retard
          Angle games doesn't fool me. Abdulhamanap insallah.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So being retarded runs in the family? Are your parents cousins?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Father's new wife is semi Degen. They brought this to themselves by committing cardinal sin.

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bumo

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