When did you realize balding is inevitable? You go bald or you take literal tránny hormones that may not even work on you
So why try to prevent something natural? All men go bald at some point
Balding
When did you realize balding is inevitable? You go bald or you take literal tránny hormones that may not even work on you
So why try to prevent something natural? All men go bald at some point
I can look like a 3/10 or 7/10 just based on how my hair is parted and compliments my face. If I go bald then it’s over.
Same for me, except it's more like 2/10 and 9/10
Yes, unless you have a model tier face, going bald is the equivalent of turning into a manlet. You can get pussy, but you are playing on hard mode.
You guys always say face is the most important thing in physical attractiveness, correct? Well hair makes up 50% of your face area. It's not a separate thing. If you have a great haircut you get bonus points. If you have a shit haircut or bald, you get malus points.
>Yes, unless you have a model tier face, going bald is the equivalent of turning into a manlet.
It's neither a problem for baldies nor manlets, the simple fact of the matter is that being bullied in your formative years and spending all this time online has stunted you, everyone around you can pick up on this, you've got the charisma of shit stains on a wall. I know ugly men of all kinds who never had your issues, but they played sports, were invited to parties, were invited to go on holidays. Looksmaxing is where autism and bottom barrel males go to cope, average jock never had to worry about looksmaxing despite being an ugly ogre
Kekw this is the final lookism truthnuke
ALL lookismgays got bullied while growing up and blame their genetics and parents as a cope. Even ugly bastard drunkards can get a wife, bald short and no jaw chavs can get with a solid 7-8, Holy shit, bullying literally is the reason for incels lack of pussy
Yeah everything in this post is true
t. Guy it describes.
>or you take literal tránny hormones
men have been taking fin for 30 years. troonys barely existed 5 years ago. it's a hairloss drug for men.
Of all the ailments a man could have, balding is perhaps the least significant.
>Eventually I JUST gave up
I don't get it. Is your point that balding men shouldn't try min/fin because it might not work?
Why not just try them to see if they work.
I feel like you're trying to psyop your competition into becoming ugly.
>Of all the ailments a man could have, balding is perhaps the least significant.
mad scientist vibes
Fricking brutal man
I'm going to start posting my norwood collection starting with my most recent acquisition
I call this one "the norwood maxipad"
No one cares about baldos on reddit, stop dumping shit here you Black person
Let me have my fun
What a TRVE CHAD, being a masculine balding man. The lizard israelite men from the moon are trying to make white men subservient and feminine by keeping their hair
>the pain in his eyes
honestly feel bad tbh
Agreed. It's especially brutal because he's handsome and could have had a very nice lumberjack aesthetic.
The problem in this photo is this guy isn't taking care of himself. Even with full hair he would still look like shit.
Puffy, bloodshot eyes
Untreated Acne
Wrinkled t shirt
Defeated look
Pale
Zero hair styling
If I had to play as this character I would put my first upgrade points into a haircut and therapy.
He'd look much better with a full head of hair, stop coping you dipshit.
No because he doesn't groom it either way. Had he just shaven his wizardlocks he'd look much better already
Why is this moron letting his hair grow?
My brother has a similar cut. It's pure denial cope.
This could be an okay looking guy if he took better care of himself. His hair's done with but other than that fixing his diet and exercising a little would make him fine
This.
The guy has a good chin. He should get a haircut, lift weights, and dress better. That alone is 100% in his control and would make a big difference.
unironic chad potential
just shave your head, put on proper amount of muscle, lean out to 12% bf, done
but feeling sorry for yourself is much easier, Black person looks like hes about to burst into tears too
a skincare routine and some neck muscles and you have discount Johnny Sins right there.
if this dude just wore some leather and punked out he'd be completely normal looking and confident
>le bad skin
>le bad haircut
Look at me I le smart
Top KEK I'm gonna post my full head of hair there and then ask what can I do to stop it
>balding and acne
Same level as being a virgin with HIV
>potion seller…. I would have needed your potions…. Now tis too late, I am defea-ACK
I'd go for the Navegante look.
Bro this is salvageable. Clear your skin, shave your head (srsly what do you have to lose), treat your beard and brows with minoxidil, get a short well kept beard or goatee. Going the extra mile would be a bit of masseter training, neck training and cutting to 12%bf
This moron needs to fix his diet first and foremost. No excuse to have acne like that at his age.
>When did you realize balding is inevitable?
When I was about 23 and started going bald on the top of my head.
>You go bald or you take literal tránny hormones that may not even work on you
So why try to prevent something natural?
My girlfriend shaved my head with a 3 mm machine, after that I continued to shave the same way and eventually switched to a razor.
>When did you realize balding is inevitable?
>All men go bald at some point
This is my 80 something year old fathers hair.
Yes. His top is fricking bald. It's a combover.
It's not a combover, he combs it sideways. There is hair growing out all over the top, every square inch. I mean there is hair literally growing out of the temple on the right side of the photo, every bald guy lose their hair first on their temples when they starting in their 20s.
His hairline has been the same since forever. His hair is dense af.
I think the cropping might be giving some optical illusion that you are misinterpreting, im not seeing it as ive seen the original and IRL.
>think the cropping might be giving some optical illusion
I think it might be because my dad has a short forehead just like this guy, and you cant see that in a crop.
It's not a combover you jealous coper, here the hair is cut very short. Goddamn baldies get so mad and insecure.
He's seen significant balding. It looks normal on an old guy so we don't notice it. But on a 21 year old this would look crazy.
Your father has balded much less than average but still objectively a large amount
At what age is a man reasonably safe from the Norwood Reaper if he hasn't had any recession or thinning? I'm 35 and have dodged it thus far. Am I in the clear?
Technically never.
Saying "all men bald eventually" is bs. I work with 45 year olds who have thick lush hair with no recession. The owner of the company I work for is 70 with thick hair that has maintained his hairline from his youth. Actually, now that I think of it, I have met very few bald/balding men in my profession. Maybe something about it helps you keep your hair. Or maybe hairlets just avoid hard and dangerous jobs.
I wouldn't make a sweeping generalization and say "all men" but the majority of men will see some level of recession or thinning even if it's barely noticeable. All I'm trying to say is that the norwood reaper can rear it's head at any time.
anon, it can't go on like this, monday you HAVE to pull his hair to check if it's a wig
It isn't he gets regular haircuts. Also about to go on a 4-day fishing trip with him and a few other coworkers so I will see him for 4 days straight in a cabin with no chance for him to maintenance a toupee
Always with the anecdotes, cherrypicking from a minority of cases
Only 1% of men get this hairline at 80.
The guy is 100% wearing a toupee.
Cope. He gets regular haircuts and even b***hes that he has to get haircuts too often and that his hair "won't stop growing".
My boyfriend is starting to lose hair. He is insecure about it and asks me if I’ll still love him if he goes bald.
I would, but I don’t want him too. How do I convince him to get on fin?
Tell him as honestly as you just told us. Just remember at the end of the day it's up to him if he wants to use treatment.
>So why try to prevent something natural? All men go bald at some point
because somebody wants to make billions in profit.
>Pic
It works better on women but it's still embarrassingly effective on men.
>It works better on women
of course, its worked perfectly on women with shit like deodorant for example, literally a documented case.
But they also want to tap into the male market, literally billions of profit left off the table, so they are trying their absolute best to psyop men into freaking out about a natural part of being male and sell them a life time subscritption to fix a problem they invented.
At this point wearing a receeding hairline is like a status symbol that you didn't fall for the israeli psyop or are generally manly enough to not give a shit about such happenings and are just living life.
>At this point wearing a receeding hairline is like a status symbol that you didn't fall for the israeli psyop
Shill spotted. Reminder that baldcels are psyopped into shaving on a frequent basis if not every day
>razors
>shaving cream
>aftershave
>specialized skull shavers
>hats
and thats not to mention that women are simultaneously psyopped into hating bald men. You are PAYING to be less attractive to women. The israelites got YOU
>Shill spotted. Reminder that baldcels are psyopped into shaving on a frequent basis if not every day
What am I selling? Hmm? israelite.... What product am I selling?
>shave
never said to shave
> You are PAYING to be less attractive to women. The israelites got YOU
I'm not paying jack shit homosexual, you get the rope.
I just use some clippers on zero every few days, besides buying ok clippers one time it really doesn't have to be expensive
moronic hands wrote this.
Who the frick shaves their head with razors?
21st century, you God-damned moron, we use devices for that.
Also, are we not supposed to shave our faces, because we're shilling as well then?
Crawl back into your basement you neckbeard incel.
Balding affects like 75% of men and is basically the most normal part of aging. It's like having a vain panic about your eyesight deteriorating. Might as well get botox injections and shit
Is this true, can you stop and reverse hair loss with just daily massages?
Balding is caused by a lack of vitamin D >But what about those people who spend all day in the sun and end up going bald? their receptors are bad.
Spain is sunny and also the 2nd most bald country in the world
>Balding is caused by a lack of vitamin D
balding is caused by DHT, you fricking moron
Hair loss is caused by an inability to metabolism vitamin D.
> Male organism evolves an organ to help alkalize and expel semen, the prostate
> Male sex hormones can influence unwanted growth and tumors in prostate
> This uniquely male pathology would result in shorter lifespan and increased mortality for younger males with higher free androgen
> Organism develops a mutation in the X-chromosome that creates a higher sensitivity to androgen in scalp hair follicles
> This sensitivity causes organism to lose scalp hair
> This increases vitamin D status, offering greater protection from prostate cancer
> Organism is more survivable, hence the trait is favored
> Over time, more mutations of this gene occur making follicles in the region even more spatially programmed to respond to DHT
> Full pattern of baldness develops over time and is probably tracked closely by free androgen levels at puberty and by markers of prostate pathology as they develop during the male life cycle
This take (and ones like it) only appear on IST and never in any community that researches and understands hair loss.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9983358/
>Overall, the inverse correlation between serum 25D and intraprostatic DHT supports the hypothesis that serum vitamin D deficiency may promote higher prostatic DHT levels.
>types a whole column of moronic drivel "on inability to metabolism vitamin D" based on a fricking hypothesis that serum vitamin D deficiency may promote higher prostatic DHT levels
>as if a mere hypothetical increase is what tips the scales between balding and not balding
>the higher levels were not even in the scalp
you're literally sub 80IQ
>correlation
>supports
>hypothesis
>may
In the trash it goes
have a nice day. If you're gonna to spread propaganda, at least make sure it's based on some sort of factual reality. No, baldness is not caused by lack of vitamin D. No, baldness does not "skip" a generation. No, baldness does not single-handedly come from some homosexual on your mother's side.
Yes, baldness is determined by the genes of both your parents. Yes, you're more likely to go bald if your father/brother is bald. Yes, the genes for balding are essentially a dice-roll.
I'm short, already ugly, have a gross headshape and am balding HARD at 23. fin hasn't worked on me and I've been on it about 8 months. I fricking WISH I couldn't care and just shave it, but I've been in enough situations where women have spoken freely (usually drinking) to know that they fricking HATE bald men, going through dating apps with them and if a baldie comes up it's an automatic no, usually paired with a laugh, and if talking about men that they know in real life if it's not an automatic no it's a "yea, but he's yknow, bald :/". there's NO winning if you don't have some freakishly uncommon feature like height or being handsome, if you're just a regular guy relationships end at your hairline
Who cares about women LMAO
>I've never had sex, a girlfriend, or will ever have a family
>I'm so stoic
>I NEED hair to have sex, get a girlfriend, get married and have kids
>but you weren't having sex, had a girlfriend or had kids when you had hair either....
>NO you JUST don't understand!
A confident baldie is unstoppable, a balding troony is just pathetic
>I NEED hair to have sex, get a girlfriend, get married and have kids
glad you understand, anon. maybe you'll think twice about letting yourself go bald in the next life 🙂
It depends, I'm on fin and the balding on top of my head has stopped completely, but it's still receding on the sides up front. I figure I'm just slow rolling the inevitable
>inevitable
I have a friend whose dad had a full head of thick hair in his mid 60s. He and his brother are both bald, so I figured the dad was wearing a rug. He got cancer and shaved his head for chemo, and when it started growing back in, the mother fricked had a full head of hair, thicker than mine, much thicker than both his bald sons. It may be rare but it does happen
bald genes come from the mother
They can come from either.
my maternal grandfather had a full head of hair until the day he died, and I'm balding hard at 22, explain this one scientists
On dutasteride for 1 month again.
Last time I used it with oral minoxidil it killed my hair-loss, from 30 hairs per day to zero by month 4
What are the sides like with dutasteride?
A bit milder than compared to finasteride.
The only significant side-effect I get is stomach bloating, which is unbearable with fin but less bad with dutasteride
Hmm. Did you go on a lower dose than fin?
Tried to get around wiith lower dosage and topical with no luck
So dutasteride and oral minoxidil gave you the best results... Did you use a dermapen or dermaroller at all?
I was not using that just those two.
Funnily enough this time I am doing dutasteride with dermastamp just because I don't want to use minoxidil because of face aging
Is the face aging thing real anon? I'm thinking about adding minox and this is the first I've heard.
the facial aging is by people using it to grow beards because its usually in an alcohol solution, however it gives you real racoon eyes regardless of application method
Shit. Any way to avoid the eye frickery?
So long as it doesn't make me look actually older by fricking my skin I don't mind.
nah because its a vasodilator, it's not a side effect so much as just an affect, just what it does. having said that I can't TRULY confirm as a 1st hand source (because I've got cats so can't take min despite REALLY needing it lol), but it's a noted effect and every guy you see that talks about taking it has the exact same eyes
no, some fearmongers just spam in vitro studies but "it doesn't seem to be the case in vivo". oral sometimes causes water retention and can give you puffy eyelids or dark circles. I'm taking 5mg capsules and haven't noticed it yet
>A bit milder than compared to finasteride.
literally the opposite but ok
Even studies show that the side-effect profile is similar between the 2.
Its not uncommon to have people with side-effect on fin and be side-effect free on dut
dutasteride without a topical antiandrogen is moronic. you get double the amount of testosterone in the scalp, which also ravages hair
I've used dut with topical min for almost a year and my hairline is proceeding.
Could happen, that's not always the case though.
Most people still losing hair on dut is due to the activation of different pathways that rend the drug useless, not the increased scap test when the drug functions accordingly
>When did you realize balding is inevitable?
dont really care, im married in my 30s now with a nw2 which i reached in my teenage years and hasn't changed a bit since then
Norwoods are based, just embrace it.
This is proof that a receeding hairline can work provided you grow your hair out enough. That level of recession with hair too short would look very bad.
Embrace the widows peak anons.
OP is a demoralization shill like always.
>62 replies, only 1 mentions "diet"
Yes, inevitable--for (You), goyfeeders.
if women lose hair it's due to shit diet/ lifestyle and can be and should be fixed, it's not normal.
If a man loses hair, it's normal male patern baldness and you can be extremely healthy and still lose hair, there is nothing to be fixed.
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nah you are coping about objective reality
male balding is a trillion dollar industry and people have been trying to solve it for centuries
everyone already tried everything
every home remedy
every moronic advice
none of them works
none
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>none of them works
>none
>0
topical and oral 5ar inhibitors work. they completely halt hairloss. the patent has expired and generics are extremaly cheap. topical antiandrogens work. they also halt hairloss. they haven't even bothered to get them approved and no "trillion dollar industry" profits from them, just some shady sites. you are fricking moronic and are coping with losing your hair for no reason
If a woman grows a mustache, something is terribly wrong.
If a man grows a mustache, is expected male development.
But gigajews are trying to psyop men into being insecure about a normal male development to milk them for BILLIONS of shekkels.
You see this psyop on every fricking board, no doubt fueled by bots.
no one has to psyop me, just by looking at women and their reactions is enough.
No woman wil look at you bald unless you are jeremy meeks
Bro is so priviliged losing his hair is traumatising. b***h what
So how humans have 100k hair follicles if a bald man like pic related get 3k transplanted and his head is full of hair again?
They used the hair from the back of his head.
Its 100k on the whole head and it varies depending on race.
A fully bald top sets you back by 30k follicles, this guy is not fully bald but a NW5 so he needs less, and then the surgeons are trained to spread the follicles to maximize look
3k grafts is like 30k follicles. each graft has SEVERAL hairs coming out of it. that's why.
I wish I could see the world from a demotivator's perspective. Do you get pleasure from being a dick? I got pleasure from being annoying and getting attention as a kid, is it the same effect?
My grandpa had a full head of hair until his dying day at 100. It started thinning slightly in his mid 90s. My dad is 73 and has not even begun to thin yet. I'm 36 and also, still full head of hair. Some people just have shit genetics. Sucks to suck.
Anyone up to date on the research on follicle splitting transplant? I will laugh eternally at who spends countless hours money and meds on mediocre gains when I can get a full transplant after a few years of using a clipper.
You do know that trannies take those pills because, unsurprisingly, men who want to be women don’t want to be bald women…?
finasteride has different effects on different people
some unfortunate guys like the one in the op image don't benefit
i on the other hand was able to stop and reverse my MPB on just 2mg weekly with (as of yet) zero side effects
You have 2 options:
1. Have good genetics and never go bald
2. Pay $15 per year for Finasteride and never go bald
Look basically, I'm not going to take it
the troony drugs
AHHHHHHHHHH
I know, I know.... I'M SORRY!!!
I'm just not going to take the troony drugs is all
AHAHGAHAHAHAHAHAH
so from your balding gigachad pic I'm guessing you have shit genetics AND are too scared to take fin?
so from your shitpost I'm guessing you are a troony and are too scared to rope?
>2. Pay $15 per year for Finasteride and never go bald
Where do i get it that cheap?
costco. not a meme
Does this board just exist to make men insecure about physical traits?
If it's not hair loss, it's height, if it's not height, it's dick size, or shoulder width, or muscle insertions, etc. etc. yesterday there was a thread about wrist size ffs. None of this shit matters. None of it is healthy. You don't need to be or look like 'chad' to get women, and you don't need to get women to be worthy. It's such a strange interpretation of fitness. Looking strong etc. is a byproduct of being fit, it's not its emphasis
People here are just miserable pricks, theres no advice given out here.
Am I being paranoid?
An awful picture but from what I can see you are OK.
Having a thick widows peak or a slight V hairline is not bad, bad would be if you are thinning
If you're 18, the no. My hairline was similar through 20, then started going downhill fast. Got on fin within a year and it's stabilized ever since. You'll still see some temple recession, but all things considered that's ok.
>If you're 18, the no. My hairline was similar through 20, then started going downhill fast. Got on fin within a year and it's stabilized ever since. You'll still see some temple recession, but all things considered that's ok.
I'm 20
For now, yes, that's literally nothing, looks completely normal.
Don't listen to morons saying "if you have a tiny widow's peak now it'll be massive in 5 years", there is no rule. That might happen or it might stay exactly the same for 15 years.
24, NW2, maybe even 3.
i cut my hair very short. 3mm on the sides, 15mm at the top so it already looks a lot thinner but letting the hair grow out a little in the future could already remedy that.
but other than that should i start doing treatment? ive watched a couple videos and it seems a little high effort. especially the topical appliances.
Shaving it and making sure you have a hat all times is even more maintenance... and then you're still bald.
>Shaving it and making sure you have a hat all times
who said im doing any of that?
This is getting depressing fast man. I was a NW1.5 at 6 months ago, closer to a 1. I started Fin about 5 months ago and now im damn near a NW 2 and thinning. At this fricking rate im going to be NW4 this time next year.
Yall lied to me about this shit it doesnt work.
>He actually fell for the "take the troony drug and keep your hair forever" meme
The maintenence is just a slowing down of your baldness, it is also greatly exaggerated by baldies and trannies who need to lie to themselves about going bald. The side effects however are severely under reported by the same group of men
You need to stop being insecure
skill issue
works for me
when i looked at my dad and grandpa. you guys are like those women on tiktok desperately trying to avoid wrinkles, it's a futile endeavour. most men will go bald, and there's nothing you can do about it.
it's not going bald it's going bald before your time. dudes in their 30s freaking out that they're losing it deserve it because they had time to do all the shit they needed to to settle down, some of us started losing it in our teens and early 20s and never had a chance
>literal tránny hormone
Obsessed.
Jay Cutler blasted steroids for years and still has a full head of hair. Balding is only inevitable if you have the gene for it. For men without the MPB genes, androgens don't make them go bald.
>For men without the MPB genes, androgens don't make them go bald
Steroid balding is guaranteed if you have the MPB gene [DHT sensitivity] but it's still a coinflip even if you have good hair genes
Jay had hair implants
>Jay Cutler blasted steroids for years and still has a full head of hair.
He had implants.
Ronnie shaved his head for years even though he could grow a full thick head of hair all along.
What do you reluctant norwoodcels think about that?
>You go bald or you take literal tránny hormones
What do you mean "literal troony hormons"? Why do people randomly use the word "literally" nowadays?
Yes obviously trannies take them because women are supposed to have hair. That does not mean its for trannies. Its purpose is to let you have hair. Trannies take estrogen and other shit to feminize themselves, not fricking finasteride.
I swear its ridiculous how people everywhere are desperate for a solution against balding, yet when the solution arrives they keep spouting insane fearmongering because you have a 2% chance of erectyle disfunction. Just try it and stop if you cant get it up anymore.
i've been swiping on tinder for 2 days now, 0 matches. I think it's for the best some of the balds volunteer and embrace it. there's already so much competition in this world
>When did you realize balding is inevitable?
it's literally 100% preventiable if you act fast
> literal tránny hormones
what do you mean by troony hormones? finasteride? it has absolutely nothing to do with troony hormones and actually increases testosterone. topical fin is not even necessary or even particularly effective compared with other options. you're a fricking moronic mouthbreather
*preventable
>balding is inevitable
Not really, you just start taking a pill and now you're fine.
>literal troony hormones
Fin literally gives you MORE free testosterone, because it inhibits testosterone's conversion into DHT.
>fin is low key anabolics albeit I no longer get morning wood and wake up brainfoggy and shoot watery sperm
I've been taking it for years, still have morning wood, never brainfoggy, my sperm is fine lol
it's just you. for someone so lowtest that he has to depend on dht to maintain an errection, finasteride can indeed cause those sides
checked, it's been proven time again that these threads are an ecochamber for fintrannies to cope with their side effects and convince themselves they're cured of their innevitable hairloss.
> You go bald or you take literal tránny hormones
>All men go bald at some point
Shut the frick up chrome dome, stop spreading lies you dysgenic piece of shit. Not even half of the male population goes bald https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/percentage-of-bald-males-by-country
>He fell for the troony hormones prevent balding meme
>eventually all white men go bald at some point
FTFY
>When did you realize balding is inevitable?
Counterpoint, even at the latest age brackets, male pattern baldness affects 53% of the population. Meaning 47% of men will never be significantly balding or bald.
Nah bro, you're supposed to believe the outrageous percentage that swears 80% of all Men ever will go bald/be balding by age 80. Trust the science
become clinically insane and you can pull it off
Why would you post this guy? Now you made me sad. He completely fell off and is now a CTE-riddled shell of his former self. 🙁
Dutasteride
Shaved my head and kept it moving the moment I noticed I was balding and I still get more pussy than 99% of posters here. If you have a full head of hair and aren't getting laid, I would like to hear your excuse
>muh pussi
Nice dude, but I can just pay for sexo and not be bothered with it for a while (was never too impressed by sex). I don't want to go bald because I'd hate to see it, not because I'm worried about ever getting laid again.
Why do baldies try to cope with if doesnt work,
It frickig does
What do I do if Finasteride isn't working for me after 1 year? Dutasteride?
is troony censored now?
Am I moronic for getting off creatine because im scared of hair loss
Just fricking shave your head you fricking morons. If you have a shit face you look shit with or without hair.