I find myself always pushing with my hips to complete sets. Basically doing a fricked up deadlift.
by replacing it with the superior Pendlay
>Pendlay
I'll check it out.
The goal is to touch the bar with your gut. There's no cheating as long as it touched.
But if I use my hips too much aren't I taking away from my upper body strength?
Don't confuse them with Deadlifts. Shoulders should be "slouched" / internally rotated at the bottom. This does not lead to a rounded back.
I keep my back fairly straight. I'm really trying to figure out how to stop pushing with my hips.
"cheating" just means utilizing more muscles and momentum to generate power. Why are you so worried about efficient hypertrophy? Power generation is a skill in itself.
The target area is like to hit with rows is more upper body than lower and right now I feel as though the balance is off.
For instance, I find myself much more able to row the same weight that I struggle with bench pressing.
>But if I use my hips too much aren't I taking away from my upper body strength?
You're also lifting more weight. There's gains for everyone it's the beauty of compound lifts.
mild cheating is fine.
I really like yates rows after doing a lat movement like pullovers or pulldowns.
Absolute frys my shit and the contraction is better.
"cheating" just means utilizing more muscles and momentum to generate power. Why are you so worried about efficient hypertrophy? Power generation is a skill in itself.
If you rest your head on a bench you can do them full ROM with minimum "cheating" and get some neck gains and hamstring/hip mobility gains while you're at it. Or I just thought you could rest your chest on the headrest, though that would negate the neck gains.
I've done it, it works, but you still can't go super heavy or you'll still have to cheat. But it does work.
Though, instead, just do some prone DB rows on a low incline bench and get the same effect without any lower back taxation coming into play.
Row is supposed to be a 1:1 ratio with your bench, correct?
If so then you should be able to deduce what your max row is WITH proper form.
Mine is out of whack right now.
Do them with a trap bar
Makes them feel 100x better
Not even close to correct
Pull-ups are for lats
Rows are for upper back (traps, rear delts, rhomboids, rotator cuffs muscles, thoracic extensors and probably something else I'm forgetting)
On pull days I do one/two rowing variations and one vertical pull (pull-up or chin-up. difference is mostly in loading and rep ranges honestly, since rings make them basically equal)
Try to hold at the top for a split second, and lower your weight with your back. Also use straps. If you're still having trouble feeling them, do them after some lat exercises, you should really feel them then.
Another thing you can try is doing a dropset, you'll be a lot stricter on the drop and have a chance to perfect your technique, pick weights where you can do 12 reps and then another 8-12
You don’t
People who do “clean” or “strict” reps on rows with light weight are preventing gains
Figure out what your limiting factor is and work on that. Whats giving first, your forearms upper back or lower back?
Arms I think
I can hardly feel my back engaging with rows
I find myself always pushing with my hips to complete sets. Basically doing a fricked up deadlift.
>Pendlay
I'll check it out.
But if I use my hips too much aren't I taking away from my upper body strength?
I keep my back fairly straight. I'm really trying to figure out how to stop pushing with my hips.
The target area is like to hit with rows is more upper body than lower and right now I feel as though the balance is off.
For instance, I find myself much more able to row the same weight that I struggle with bench pressing.
I'll check these out too.
>But if I use my hips too much aren't I taking away from my upper body strength?
You're also lifting more weight. There's gains for everyone it's the beauty of compound lifts.
by replacing it with the superior Pendlay
this. start on the floor, wide grip, pull it into your belly button.
>wide grip
I know you think its funny but please dont spread false information here
word homie
based
narrow grip
tpbp
mild cheating is fine.
I really like yates rows after doing a lat movement like pullovers or pulldowns.
Absolute frys my shit and the contraction is better.
The goal is to touch the bar with your gut. There's no cheating as long as it touched.
By replacing it with cable rows. The superior row
Don't confuse them with Deadlifts. Shoulders should be "slouched" / internally rotated at the bottom. This does not lead to a rounded back.
"cheating" just means utilizing more muscles and momentum to generate power. Why are you so worried about efficient hypertrophy? Power generation is a skill in itself.
Do seal rows instead
Use a bench then use dumb bells. Or just do spider rows if the bench has space for a barbell.
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Can you get the bit of meat between my last two upper molars (right side)? I forgot to buy floss today.
I got you senpai. This is literally, unironically, unabashedly why I lift.
If you rest your head on a bench you can do them full ROM with minimum "cheating" and get some neck gains and hamstring/hip mobility gains while you're at it. Or I just thought you could rest your chest on the headrest, though that would negate the neck gains.
is this unironically a good idea?
Pictured is Eddy Coan doing the same exercise on a machine built specifically for it.
I've done it, it works, but you still can't go super heavy or you'll still have to cheat. But it does work.
Though, instead, just do some prone DB rows on a low incline bench and get the same effect without any lower back taxation coming into play.
>that drawing
Why did you draw a picture of OP sucking dick?
If you have to cheat, you’re using too much weight.
I'm done trying to force the barbell/dumbell row meme into my life. Cable Rows are fine.
By not going too heavy, OP. Pretty simple.
Row is supposed to be a 1:1 ratio with your bench, correct?
If so then you should be able to deduce what your max row is WITH proper form.
Mine is out of whack right now.
like this. you can go heavy as you want
Nah. Just do pullups. If they're too easy add weights.
Do them with a trap bar
Makes them feel 100x better
Not even close to correct
Pull-ups are for lats
Rows are for upper back (traps, rear delts, rhomboids, rotator cuffs muscles, thoracic extensors and probably something else I'm forgetting)
On pull days I do one/two rowing variations and one vertical pull (pull-up or chin-up. difference is mostly in loading and rep ranges honestly, since rings make them basically equal)
Try to hold at the top for a split second, and lower your weight with your back. Also use straps. If you're still having trouble feeling them, do them after some lat exercises, you should really feel them then.
Another thing you can try is doing a dropset, you'll be a lot stricter on the drop and have a chance to perfect your technique, pick weights where you can do 12 reps and then another 8-12
Youre not supposed to do them at all if you can row more than 1pl8. Just use DB rows