>be 5'6" male, starting weight 200lbs, goal weight 154lbs
>the only way I can lose weight is to eat 1200 calories or less
>"experts" constantly telling me 1200 calories isnt enough
>try eating 1500 calories and stay at 171lbs for 6 weeks
>drop to 900-1200 and start losing weight again
what the actual frick IST, i'm so hungry
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You can eat like this and be miserable and probably fail or you can try carnivore and effortlessly lose fat while enjoying life. I'm never hungry. Slowly but surely making it to a place where I'm more confident every day.
It doesn't have to be painful, anon.
how is it physically possible to eat more calories than your body needs and still lose weight. the laws of physics dont work that way anon.
your body isn't a closed system
its as simple as that
actually I fart maybe once every 2-3 days and it smells like nothing. its the opposite. fiber and plants make you have big smelly farts. and I have 1 shit every other day usually and its totally normal, not large or hard to pass or anything.
This is a particularly large meal I ate once, usually I eat less or just 1 steak or 1-2 lbs of fatty meat. I could give a frick about muh protein absorption. I'm eating meat until I'm satisfied and losing fat.
All that stuff you just said is just not my reality and not the reality of anyone else I've ever talked to doing carnivore
You fart once, every 2 or 3 days. You are certifiably constipated. Because you eat too much protein and not enough fiber. Just include some fiber moron.
NVM, don't include fiber. Forget I suggested that. Keep doing what you're doing champ.
Okay I will keep doing what I'm doing thanks for the reassurance!
>certifiably constipated
then explain why I poop every 1-2 days and don't feel bloated or feel constipated whatsoever
Did you know that fiber isn't actually absorbed for nutrients and your body can barely use it for nutrients? The gut bacteria that like fiber are eating it with no benefit to you whatsoever. There is no proof that having these bacteria in your gut or eating fiber for them is beneficial for you, the human doing the eating.
There's a reason humans don't have a rumen ya know
shan't be chatting with someone who farts every 2-3 days
I don't really understand what you're trying to say
Farting is literally caused because you couldnt digest your food. Why are you talking about farting as if it is good?
Nothing says terrible diet more than constant farts and bloating
Gas is generated because you digest food, moron. If you didn't digest food, you wouldn't create gass. You don't just absorb that energy into your being you absolute brainlet.
LMFAO absolute braindead moron
If you fart more that means you're eating food that is harder to digest like beans
Farting less = your food was easier to digest = healthier for your gut
Imagine defending farting MORE as some health marker or some shit LMAO
Fiber does nothing for you except feed your gut bacteria that have been cultivated inside you because you eat it. They are literally living in your shitpipe rent-free giving you rancid, room-clearing farts. Enjoy that.
Post source moron. You're literally making up bullshit. You fart all of the fricking time, you are supposed to.
https://www.houstonmethodist.org/blog/articles/2020/oct/flatulence-everything-you-wanted-to-know-about-farting/#:~:text=Humans%20pass%20gas%20between%2013,approximately%206.8%20miles%20per%20hour.
between 13 to 21 times a day
Humans pass gas between 13 to 21 times a day. Farts can be flammable, if they contain hydrogen and methane. (Warning: Do not try to test under any circumstances.) According to an NBC News report, upon release, farts can travel about 10 feet per second, or approximately 6.8 miles per hour.Oct 13, 2020
>follows carnivore diet
>explosive shits and farts, literally sharting in public and can't even hold them back
What gives anon? I thought fibre was the culprit.
I'm not a carnivore diet-autist. I'm saying fiber will help with your explosive or compact shits.
I responded to the wrong anon. Sorry brother.
>your body isn't a closed system
i guarantee you dont understand what the frick that means in relation to your bodys use of energy.
How exactly can I eat 2-3 pounds of meat some days and be dropping weight then?
Explain that smart guy
There's a maximum amount of calories your body can absorb at once from a piece of dense meat before it's pushed through your intestines.
No muscle glycogen or glycogen depletion
>starts doing carnivore diet
>literally thinks his shit don't stank
many such cases
Funny post
how much do you fart?
how much do you shit?
When you eat keto your body is adapted to burning fat it will keep burning fat for all your energy needs. Do you think it keeps fat around for no reason? Meat is also much more filling than carbs.
isn't the guy who invented keto fat?
>cherry picking
This guy made the keto diet as part of treatment for epileptics, doesn't look fat to me. Did he eat it himself? No fricking idea
"keto" is not even relatively new. people have been eating primarily meat and fat for hundreds of thousands of years
Agriculture is at most 14,000 years old.
forgot pic
No I feel way better eating just meat. Have you actually tried carnivore for any length of time?
Ketosis and food were both invented by God, so I'm not sure what you're getting at.
>3MAD
probably best to OMAD and a post workout recovery. And 1200 is kore than enough for women, as 1800 is the average TDEE.
ketotards will shit out water and think that they lost weight. Keto plus calories deficit is an easy way to lose weight, especially since fatty food is delicious
>how is it physically possible to eat more calories than your body needs and still lose weight.
It's not. But try overeating on steak. Even more difficult on lean meat like turkey.
Diets like carnivore and so on sort of accidentally work by drastically increasing the amount of protein ingested, which is much more satiating than carbs and also recalibrating your pallet. Modern meals are basically drugs that try to hook you with extremely fine tuned and unnatural combinations of flavours.
This 100%. If you are eating pure animal protein and fat then you will just eat the right amount. It really is uncanny, but it just fricking works like that. Your body knows when you've had enough because it is well adapted to using it for fuel.
Its another reason why you feel good on carnivore, you just give your body what it needs with very little waste and it knows exactly what to do with it.
Calories mean absolutely nothing in the human body. It's a false premise. It's all about the hormonal response to the food in the body.
exactly high caloric foods making you fat is a coincidence
>fat
>moron
pick 2.
That's just too much man, put some green on it or you're going to have stinky farts and hyper-packed shits because you aren't going to absorb even half of that protein unless you are roiding.
Looks fricking disgusting, anon.
It does look like a greasy mess but it tasted pretty good
How about some pork belly instead?
Still too fatty and greasy. Post chicken breast and cheese omelets if you actually want to influence people, although keto is just superior because you actually eat greens and shit.
>influence
No I just want to tell OP that he doesn't have to starve himself
I'm literally doing it while feeling barely any hunger ever and it is working for me. Why do you think I should be posting chicken breast and cheese omelets?
Why are
>greens and shit
superior?
You don't feel better when eating vegetables? They feel much cleaner than meat. I can eat bowls full of roasted veggies and salad while eating that first pic I'd be sick. Unfortunately the best vegetable (potato) and fruit is too high in carbs.
>Antinutrients are good for you!
Shalom.
Why would you even want greens? You cannot break down cellulose, so you get nothing useful from them.
that looks real good. do you eat it like that or some type of sauce?
Post body
I am in the process of losing weight. I'm still fat and I'm not going to try to hide that. But it is working for me and I've lost 90 lbs. You can now go ahead and say whatever you want about muh fatty keto or whatever. You aren't changing my mind about my results so far.
I lost 75 lbs with keto as well. Dunno why people that have never actually tried it have such an extreme opinion on it here.
Those 75 lbs are like "see you real soon, pal".
it's been 2 years
Mainly because a lot of people here aren't fatasses or never were fatasses and don't need it. I tried it as someone who was never fat and it was stupid for weight lifting for me.
barf
Steak is Burnt as a Black person, and there's no seasoning on the eggs, frickin Ew. At least add riped bananas or mixed berries for vitamin C and carbs for lifting
idian tier faeces.
>It doesn't have to be painful, anon.
Carny is so much more painful than any other method of weight loss. I've stayed on a sub-1000kcal CICO diet fairly effortlessly for almost 6 months. I've tried carnivore 3-4 times and each time I break after a week. I desperately want to try carnivore for a significant length of time but it's so difficult to stay on. I totally buy the health benefits but why do people say it's "easier" than other dieting, it's the most mindnumbingly repetitive diet ever and it forces you to confront every food addiction you may have rather than just cutting back on foods you like as in CICO. How is breaking a bunch of addictions easier than eating less?
Have you tried to maintain the diet for a month at least?
For me, I had a lot of issues with food addiction. Sugar devil on my back, using food as comfort, etc. Once I got used to it (took about a month) then I had zero cravings, and I found that all I wanted was to eat meat.
I felt really good and really confident about the diet. Something about it just made me feel right.
I've done a lot of nutrition "research" in my spare time and I came to the conclusion that plants aren't necessary or even healthy.
And it is plain as day for me if I eat some sugar or something sweet "in moderation" that it quickly turns into my addiction again.
That's just me. Its much easier to quit all of it than to "have self control". Self control is for morons. Make a decision to change your life instead of torture yourself with "oh this food is bad but I can have a little bit!"
As for repetitive, there is tons of variety
>steak
>burgers
>pork belly
>bacon
>ribs
>beef ribs
>lamb
>fish
>chicken legs
>rotisserie chicken
>pork chop
>pork ribeye
>breakfast sausage
>bbq sausage
>jerky
>pork rinds
>brisket
>roast beef
>bone broth
>eggs any fricking way you please
depending on your tolerance to dairy
>butter
>cream
>yogurt
>frick even some people still drink milk
>kefir
>cheese
All these foods are delicious and fulfilling and if you cook them really well then you are truly having a treat every meal. It is not boring by any means.
picrel a rib roast I made for christmas
God damn it anon that looks delicious
cheers
Baser. It's true
How fat are you?
>Meme diet
Unbalanced diets are for morons.
I thought carnivore was pure meat, eggs are allowed?
its pure animal products, eggs and butter are fine
I know if someone has too much protein in there diet it can potentially lead to a thing where your body uses protein as it's fuel source instead of carbs and your muscles will be taken. How is this avoided? Or in order for this to happen would I have to have practically only protein for a long-ass time?
It can't be avoided, that's what your body does when you eat only protein, it converts some of the protein you eat directly to glucose/glycogen. If you're talking about losing muscle mass that's something different. Your body will only eat muscle mass if you're in a steep calorie deficit and can't get protein from your diet.
If you want to avoid losing lean muscle on a diet then eat 0.7g of protein per pound of your body weight and lift weights
I do 1200/day or somewhere close. My goal weight is 155 and I'm currently hovering 160.
I have eggs in the morning, protein shakes, and usually reheat left overs for lunch. Today I had a turkey burger and rice.
Get used to rice.
>Get used to rice.
Why? It doesn't fill you up for the calories it has. I'd rather have pasta or oats
What the hell is 1200 cals you homosexuals. Im 173 and 1800 on a super autistic cut. Keep losing 1kg/week.
>173
>1800
>cut
do you weigh 200kg?
Suck it up and follow the diet pussy. Yeah you feel hungry. So what. You get used to it.
Just stick with it. As you lose weight, your body needs less food and you'll be less hungry. Today is the always the hungriest you'll ever be.
im 6 months in and feel just as ravenous as I did on day 1
I was trying to be encouraging. You want the horrible truth? The hunger never goes away. I was 250lbs (I'm 6'1"). Six years ago I put in the effort and lost weight. I've been 180 for four years now and I am hungry all the time. It's terrible. I don't give in, though, because I know how much worse I'll feel if I'm fat again.
>been hungry as frick for four fricking years
Anon try something else for frick's sake
Its pretty hard to gain weight on carnivore from my own experience. Just try something different than starving yourself you dumb homosexual or you're eventually going to frick up. You will.
Give yourself 1 month to try carnivore. Just gauge how you feel after that. If you hate it and it does you dirty, just go back to how you were.
chew more, specifically tougher foods on one side of the mouth, it releases sating signal chems in the brain and encourages jaw bone growth.
there's a reason most fast food and snack food either breaks down easy after the initial bite or is already soft, you get less full and eat more. it's the main principal food scientists follow in the design process.
also it has to be one side at a time, otherwise you just get stress hormones released.
I am also 5'6" and I maintain at 145 with 2500 cal. You are deluded.
How the actual frick? please share with me what you eat in a day and how big your muscles / workouts are?
OK, I was mistaken I maintain with about 2300. I do PPLx, takes about an hour and a half.
Nta but I'm 5'6" 68kg and it's actually pretty simple. I'm "cutting" on 2500 calories but usually aim for 2000.
Right now I more or less do 5/3/1 BBB 4 days a week and walk about an hour every day, 5k once a week.
102.5/155/72.5/170 1RMs approx.
Basically just up your energy exertion where you can. Don't do like 3 sets of squats and then go to bed or something like that.
Unless you're extremely out of shape (no muscle mass) and sedentary you shouldn't need to eat less than 1500 calories to lose weight.
It is more likely you are counting 1500 wrong than not losing weight at 1500.
If you want to eat more, try moving more.
ive done weeks of eating literally prepackaged meats with weights and calories already figured out.
Similar for me. I'm cutting 1400-1600 at 6'. Everyone says I'm eating way too low, even the apps tell me I should be eating like 500 calories more for a regular deficit, but I stay the same and sometimes gain if I go any higher than what I'm at.
From what I've heard about CICO is that you can get yourself into a state of decreased metabolism where you have to keep eating a tiny amount or your body will hold onto that weight for dear life. Your body essentially thinks you're in famine.
I honestly think people need to feed their body the right stuff. Hint: the right stuff is meat
Don't knock it til you try it
I eat chicken, lean ham and tuna every day, and once or twice a week I'll have steak/groundbeef so I definitely don't have an issue eating meat
It's more like your body has an operating range. Anything from 1500 to 2500 and you'll stay the same. Anything less than that and you lose weight. Anything more, you gain. As for the range itself, your body might only need 2100-2200 caloies in a day, but it burns the full 2500 and radiates the rest away as heat if they're not spent. Meanwhile down at 1600 you won't lose weight, you'll just feel cold and tired because your body will "underclock" your organs to save calories and it's not until you go really low it will break into fat reserves.
Literally the same.
6ft tall 190 pounds with a lot of muscle. All the apps say my maintenance is 2500 cals lmao. I eat around 1200-1400. Sometimes I gain weight at 1400.
What sort of scam is this? Im insecure even telling people how little I eat cause theyd think im starving myself.
you are starving yourself
have some grub
CICO is a scam which might work for some but not everybody. Your body is in starvation mode.
>basic physics are a scam
Yes
Humans are not robots. CICO fails. Some people have the gene which makes them enter starvation mode like hibernation. They will just be chronically fatigued if they do not eat enough but they will not lose weight. They need to eat healthily again and restart their diet to reset and calm their body down or eat healthily and just exercise. Caloric restriction is unhealthy eating under 2000 calories a day is always bad you should cardio instead.
Starvation mode isn’t real you ding dong
>t. Can’t lose weight
CICO doesn't fail, what fails is when people crash diet, their body in turn downregulates as needed to expend far fewer calories per day, then those morons get trapped in the endless cycle of "I have to keep cutting calories or I can't lose fat!" and they always rebound like a motherfricker.
If people stuck to a sensible approach of a max of 1 lb. per week (unless you're over 300 lbs., then you can do up to 2 lbs. or so per week without a hard crash), everyone would get where they want. But they're impatient, so they do stupid shit and plummet their metabolism temporarily and are too dumb to know how to get back out.
I used to do that shit 20+ years ago, told myself IF I DON'T EAT UNDER 2K CALORIES, I CAN'T LOSE FAT when it was just that I was making excuses for still drinking too much on weekends which always set me back.
If people weren't moronic and could stop lying to themselves and be honest, they'd succeed far more often.
but thats what all these anon's are saying. They are only losing 1lb a week with the extreme deficits
Wrong, there are no fat famine survivors. They are all emaciated skeletons. You are not, in fact, special and if you reduce caloric intake below maintenance your body will start using itself for fuel (working as intended) and that mass will be lost via metabolic and respiratory functions.
Do you know what a calorie really is? A measure of heat. Your body does not literally burn the food you eat to create heat for energy (what a calorie measurement really is). Your body utilizes food through lots of chemical processes that are very complicated and it can vary based on you and what you eat specifically.
CICO is a scam. Its actually just impossible to know exactly how much of the "calories" you're putting into your mouth are used for energy and what is stored. You'll only know by looking in the mirror.
The scale isn't even an appropriate measurement because body weight can fluctuate a lot based on how much water you're holding onto.
I pretty much eat like this but it's like 1500 kcal since I'm a male.
That one post low carb cereal with skim milk
Around lunch 8ish ounces of salmon or tuna with a dill greek yogurt sauce on those Swedish cracker breads.
More greek yogurt
A soup made with porkloin with the fat trimmed off with one carrot, half an onion and a medium small potato.
Maybe some lean burger or turkey meatballs if I'm under on protein
It usually comes in at about 1500 kcal, 150-160g of protein, 80ish carbs and 40ish grams of fat. Been leaning me out fast.
>"experts" constantly telling me 1200 calories isnt enough
Those "experts" are assuming your TDEE is 2500 calories or some shit. I'm a manlet like you and my TDEE is only 1800 calories, so a standard diet defecit of 500 calories brings me to 1300 calories a day, not far off 1200. It sucks that our TDEE isn't that high to begin with, 1200 calories is such a small amount of food. But I've found that OMAD works better for curbing my hunger than trying to split 1200calories over three meals and feeling full., but your experiences may vary.
>5'6
>male
choose one and only one
>making fun of a man for something he can't control
you're gonna have to seethe louder I can't hear from up here
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Beat me to it.
Kek'd hard.
>breakfast
>dinner
I only eat lunch and a protein shake after a workout. just stop eating so much fatty.
Gonna ask here since its calorie adjacent, If I budget to be able to eat 1lb of beef a day, what else if any would I need to be at a calorie surplus at 5'5"/120lb
homie don't eat 1lb of beef a day you fricking moron how fricking poor are you? get your shit together
eat chicken, olive oil, some good carb (dark bread and oats are my choice), mixed fruits, and as much veg as you can stomach/afford if you're poor and add fish to this as you get rich
you can eat some beef and pork but not a pound a day you moron
this is basic life if you can't do this go get a fricking job because nothing else is as important
seriously we are talking about the materials which constitute you there is literally nothing more important in your life than this besides possibly sleep
it impacts everything you do and you're like
>duhurrr u-uhmm can i eat 1lb of beef a daye???
look after yourself ffs i'm sick of this website being full of sickly malnourished teenagers giving themselves brain damage from bad diets
idk i have mad autism and my budget lets me get about that much steak per day which i like a lot, if that provided all my nutrient needs I'd just do that, but given that im not a small tiger I figured I'd need somthing else, hence the question. Chicken is yucky muslim food.
enjoy all sorts of nutritional issues because you're clearly headed for them
Steak does provide all you need. Don't listen to that tranime posting gainz goblin
Don’t listen to this guy. I eat a pound of 93% beef with my Rotini every day. It’s easy and taste fine. I’ll let you know how my heart is in 30 years.
cronometer
myfitnesspal
israelite datamining spyware
ok, Marlene.
This is the way. Lesser deficits are just too slow, they don't work with human nature. One evening with drinks or allowing yourself to touch the food others are cramming down at any social event or holiday, you've wiped out 2 weeks of progress on a slow program. 3 months in, slip into a habit for a week, a month of progress gone. 6 months in, you've maybe held the deficit for 2 actual months.
Genetics are either fricked or you’re counting wrong. I’m even smaller manlet at 5’4” and lose 5-10lbs a month at 1500 calories depending on cardio. When I cut for the first time I accidentally got death face and my friends thought I was anorexic.
I've lost 5kg from simply not snacking and doing strictly 3 meals a day. Cereal, dinner, supper. 🙂
I started at 5’9” 181 and am down to 168 after two month I just had to cut out sugar. Crazy how bad sugar is for you
why are ketolards so adamant about shilling their carbs are bad theory which has no scientific basis and every healthy person and athlete in the world and all your ancestors and your family all eat carbs and experience good health? why does your body never stop using glucose and goes through such lengths to get it that it will eat your muscle tissue instead?
Ignore this seething vegan OP, he spends all day here
>all your ancestors
Actually all our ancestors before agriculture for millions of years ate primarily meat and fat from animals.
You moronicly cut calories too far too fast and fricked your metabolism up, because you were acting like an impatient female and thought I GOTTA LOSE LIKE 15 LBS A MONTH TO GET WHERE I WANNA GO, instead of actually just doing a reasonable cut of about 500-600 cal./day and getting there the correct way.
You homosexuals who have no patience will frick yourselves up every time. Stop being moronic, if it took you 5 years to get to be a fatass, you aren't going to undo it in 3 months, period.
Feels good to be a guy who can lose 1 lb. a week eating 2600 cal. and not having to diet like a moron. Sucks to be OP.
You're a fricking moron. You CANNOT "frick your metabolism up" for any extended period of time...you're just as mind-numbingly moronic as the people you criticize.
This is facts. Your metabolism doesn't care. Starvation studies show it reducing significantly only when life-threateningly critical.
This meal plan doesn't have enough protein. Unless that steak is like 300g you're going to be eating like 35g of protein.
That meal plan is most certainly targeted towards untrained normies who simply want to lose weight. Probably women.
Nowhere near enough protein for a hard working man.
I am 5 ft 6in and 41 years old and lose weight on 2200 calories a day. started at 200 and am now 160
In all seriousness I had thought the obvious moron mistake was a 5D Chess Troll move to get me to reply, but now you're just moronic.
>turkey sandwich and apple
No real man eats like this.
>eating 1200 calories or less
Your metabolism is shot from cutting calories too steeply for too long and/or you can't count properly.
if I eat more I start gaining though
how fix?
You need to retabilize your body to break starvation mode. Some bodies are just more sensitive to this sort of thing. Once you normalize you can diet again. Dieting is not a straight line down think of it like waves going down with plateaus, bumps, and troughs.
I'm pretty sure I'm surviving on about 1000 calories OMAD. Not to cut but just cause I'm depressed. Not sure how I'm still functioning, tbqh. I never feel hungry and have to pretty much force myself to eat a meal when I'm at home so my dad doesn't worry.
Do burgers think potato and sweet potato are the same thing?
Maybe try actually expending energy during the day? I burn twice that daily at 5'11 165lbs, go outside you lazy frick.
1200 cals a day isn’t enough. You’re gonna crash. Especially if you work. This is starvation.
I'm 170cm 73kg and with 2500 I'm losing weight. I have to eat 3k to maintain, you are just moronic and don't walk nor lift. Frick you moron frick wanting to lose weight just by dieting. KYS now
5ft 6" Male 35yo White, Sedentary
30/7/23 1361 kcals 231.8 lbs
31/7/23 1420 kcals 230.7 lbs
01/8/23 1398 kcals 230.0 lbs
02/8/23 1350 kcals 229.6 lbs
03/8/23 1394 kcals 229.4 lbs
04/8/23 1401 kcals 228.8 lbs
05/8/23 1398 kcals 228.8 lbs
06/8/23 1347 kcals 229.3 lbs
07/8/23 1335 kcals 228.2 lbs
08/8/23 1370 kcals 227.4 lbs
09/8/23 ???? kcals 227.0 lbs
Copy me bro
>A REAL man weighs at least 200lbs
How long until it's "a real woman weighs 200 lbs"?
Just fast it’s twice as fast
I'm just nearly the end of a 4 week suicide cut and I've lost 20lbs and maintained my strength almost 100%.
>7am pwo whey/collagen shake
>10am fat free greek yogurt with whey protein powder
>1pm chicken breast, mushrooms, broccoli
>6pm beef (steak or patties), feta or mozzarella, big pile of salad (lettuce, spinach, sundried tomatoes, olives, peppers, etc - I vary it daily)
If you're 5'6 and want to be 155lbs you have to eat like a woman if you're not very active during the day.
Lmao this is for women, men cant do the 1200 calories diet
>salmon everyday
??
You're better off eating 1200 calories of milk and eggs.
>200lbs
>1200 BMR
You may need to increase protein in your diet, add some activity, and eat mostly nutrient dense foods with little to no filler.
The main thing is activity. A person of your height should maintain around 2000 calories, so you should probably be eating protein and hitting the gym to get swole. A resting metabolic rate of 1700 calories a day indicates either low activity, or an underdeveloped physique.
>>"experts" constantly telling me 1200 calories isnt enough
It isn't. That's the point.
To lose weight, you can't eat enough. If you ate enough, you wouldn't lose weight because it's enough. You just have to ensure you are still getting all your essential nutrients (vitamins, minerals, enough protein, essential fatty acids).
>1 medium potato
>picture of a yam