no, still baby-faced at 32 but my chud lines are starting to show and it got me tripping.
growing a beard adds 10 years to my appearance, it's whack
https://i.imgur.com/Cjoj85W.jpg
things that are going well in my 30's >still have full head of hair >still lifting >still get mired
cons: >not as lean as i was >lower energy >too much work makes me unavailable to opportunities >feel that time is passing and youth is gone
The hair thing is huge imo because my friend group are losing their hair and going insane unironically
hair is everything. look at David Lynch.
and leaness is a double-edged sword. meth face (the stage precluding death face, so around 10-12BF%) can make you look much older if your skin care is not on point. you really need that 'glow' to pull it off.
>growing a beard adds 10 years to my appearance, it's whack
Me too bro, chopped it and went clean for the first time in years. People were telling me how young I look now.
I'm nearly 30 and women from mid teens to late 40s have expressed interest in me. Thank God I have tight, oily skin and nice hair. If I'm like the rest of my family I'm gonna look 20 until I'm in my early 60s. My wall is unironically joint pain and things like that. I feel limited because I've accumulated damage. Fixing that now so I can just look and feel young for a long time. Out of my way agecels
>middle aged >started exercising again for the first time in over a decade >50 situps >half of those were assisted, i.e feet under furniture >feel like throwing up
First time I've ever felt nauseated from exertion.
Repeat tomorrow.
And then the day after tomorrow.
And then the day after.
And then the day after.
And then the day after.
And then the day after.
And then the day after.
......till you feel good.
What the frick are you talking about? What the frick is a wall?
I'm 36, I look better than ever. People always ask if I'm 25. I've had so much pussy I don't even know what else to do. I've slept with almost 100 women. And I am not joking here.
Sleeping around doesn’t do it for men. It’s a cult to bully virgin morons. Once you have sex. It’s nothing special. It’s not exciting like being a 17 year old about to lose it. It’s boring. Being in love is different and being intimate with a lover is like being 17 about to bang your gf for the first time.
I'm 40 and well, it depends. I still have my hair, still have a six pack and now I have more money than ever. The 20 year old me mogs me though, and no comparison to the dating back then. However the thing is, maybe the dating game has changed too much anyway. I don't know if I'd get the same attention now if I was 20. It was WAY easier back then.
how old were you when you had your first kid?
I'm 26 ( soon 27) and my gf wants to have kids in 2-3 years. Basically to have kids when we're 30yo.
I don't know if I'll be ready to be a father
>already cheated
You don't want to be with her and you don't love her, bro. You will not be a good father when you've already broken an easier commitment. Work on yourself.
If you're still cheating after your kid is born, you're playing a dangerous game with their well being and health. Not a good look for a dad.
Nah dude. Not that guy but I really want to spend my life with my gf. I just absolutely dread the idea of having kids and I'd only do it to make her happy. I can't even take care of myself. Every basic daily chore is a herculian task to me. I can work 24/7 but if it's something unrelated to work I break down.
I cannot imagine taking care of even an animal, let alone a child. I don't know how people do it.
I had my first kid when I was 33. We waited till 27 and it took a while to get my wife’s body to respond after so many years on birth control but it worked out in the end. Will most likely get a 3rd later for sure.
how old was your wife when you had your first kid and now your second kid?
Just curious, I've read that nowadays, it's relatively safe for women to have kids at age of 34
3 months ago
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She is 2 years younger than me so 31 and 34. Both kids are perfectly healthy.
Just turned 30 few months ago and the cope was real as I expected. When you hit 30 you still feel like a ‘Chad’ because you think you are in a new decade and new things are coming, but my friends are turning 31 and 32 and they told me that honeymoon phase of 30 is over and now you are in your thirties for real.
Every years gets worse and no, you can unfrick the brutality of aging and your peak is over sooner than later. That’s why monk mode is so bad. People are willing to go 5 years ‘improving’ and gymcelling instead of just going try to get a gf while they are still young.
Staying lean gets twice as hard, gains are minimal and you can feel your test dropping if you frick up your sleep.
Now the girls part. Personally I think I was at my peak at 28. Right now I think my smv dropped like a mf. Girls look at me but I just know they have better options than me despite being an 6/10. In 2024 it will be worse.
I was here in 2020 posting my stories about how I used to pull my hoes. Now I turned into an incel. I’m dry since Oct 23.
Lmao get a load of this moron. I'm 33 and I've never felt or looked better in my life. I'm 6' 160 lbs ottermode without a hint of baldness. I hit the gym 5x a week. I catch girls staring at me wherever I go. I get compliments on my physique and people ask me for my routine.
Just because you're a lazy fat frick doesn't mean the rest of us have to be.
What if your gf, fiance, wife cheated on you, left you for whatever reason, died, or whatever? I'm sure you still manage to shift the blame to the man, though. "Should've picked better"
>Be minor sperg >Good at hiding it >Get engaged >She finds out and leaves me >Get close to marrying another girl a year later >She finds out and leaves me
I seem destined for this cycle forever. The worst thing is when people appear perplexed cause I'm single and very good looking st 32. I don't know what to tell people.
It's minor aspergers which is apparently a variant of autism. There are certain subjects I'm obsessed with and discussions about things I'm not interested feel laborious, engaging in them requires a lot of effort. I experience social dysfunction at times but I've mostly trained myself out of that.
The thing is I'm good at hiding it but as a girl gets to you intimately they pick up on it.
My current autistic obsession is curing autism by optimizing gut-health which according to my research and first hand experience is possible
>My current autistic obsession is curing autism by optimizing gut-health which according to my research and first hand experience is possible
Hope that works out for you.By the way a prolonged fast is the best way to reset your gut microbiome.
3 months ago
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Yeah I have been doing plenty of fasting and noticed fantastic results. I have confirmed gut dysbiosis and even saw the little worms under a microscope.
I see I'm not alone; I'm decent at hiding my sperg level in public but when I get 1 on 1 with someone it shows very quickly so I don't even try dating anymore. I'm also depressed and giga anxious and autistic about food and have blood-injection-injury phobia so it's not fun everyday kek. Maybe look into Ray Peat regarding the gut microbuome and curing autism, if you don't already know about the guy, there's whole microcosm of spergs like us relayed to this guy, especially prolific on twitter.
>autistic about food
If my understanding is correct spergs tend to only ever want to eat 2 or 3 foods and are totally disinterested in eating anything else. When autistic kids are forced to eat different foods it decreases their tism. Try forcing yourself to eat different but healthy foods, this will diversify your microbiome. Haven't heard of Ray Peat, can you recommend some content of his?
3 months ago
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I'm not so much autistic about specific foods but about optimizing nutrition through foods and I'm adamant about only eating stuff I consider fit my current nutrition knowledge "build", otherwise if I eat other things prepared by others etc it messes up food diary and introduces unknowns about the food effects.
Chadnet website has a section about Ray Peat with lots of his articles, although it's pretty advanced material so I'd recommend reading impero substack Ray Peat introduction first.
I like Weston Price a lot as well, lots of good stuff in his famous book.
I see I'm not alone; I'm decent at hiding my sperg level in public but when I get 1 on 1 with someone it shows very quickly so I don't even try dating anymore. I'm also depressed and giga anxious and autistic about food and have blood-injection-injury phobia so it's not fun everyday kek. Maybe look into Ray Peat regarding the gut microbuome and curing autism, if you don't already know about the guy, there's whole microcosm of spergs like us relayed to this guy, especially prolific on twitter.
My gf is thin and hot, but she started shit talking to me when we have an argument and she won’t shut the frick up. She will even make fun of me. She never cleans my home because she says it’s not her house despite her sleeping her 4-5 days a week and eating rice cakes on my bed and always leaving plates on the table after eating. Whenever I bring it up she told me that my house was a mess before she met me and that she helped me cleaned it twice(4 months ago was the last time) she told me that she has a house of her own to clean ( she lives with parents) and they even have a female cleaner from Phillipines or something.
If your body is falling apart at 30 you have shit genetics or fricked up your body. I am 32 feel the same as I did in my 20s. I don't get this websites weird fear of ageing and why for men and women 30 is some magic number instead of an actually reasonable age for this sort of bullshit.
Because the majority of them are still-wet-behind-the-ears zoomers. 30 is half a lifetime away for most of them. Every year they'll get older and feel like they did the year prior. Then one day they'll wake up, and simultaneously realize that 1) they are now 30, and 2) they're still young, just not as dumb (hopefully).
Oh yes. I was Chad when <25 years old (genuinely). I'm 35, 50lbs overweight and balding. On my way to pic on the right. People I haven't seen in 10+ years are shocked to see me.
I'm not sure. I look in the mirror and see a complete piece of shit, but women still react positively to me. I think I just hit that age/look that women assume I have my life together/want to settle down
Absolutely not true but I enjoy the attention
I peaked at 24. Finally could grow a decent beard, had an alright body, dressed better than in my early 20s. A year later I started balding and my looks went to shit.
I hit 1/2/3/4 at 75kg and looked very good at 24 but the last three years I hit the wall going mach 10. Norwood 5 out of nowhere. I just generally look like shit and nothing really helps. If it gets worse by 30 I’m probably just gonna an hero. 27 now, and have a girlfriend I’m not attracted to (she probably isnt attracted to me either)
>be me >still have a full head of hair >still lean because of running and lifting >still maintaining my playful, youthful demeanor >raking in money because an attorney >have started seeing a girl who i actually like being around
imagine thinking lifting weights would change anything
its whar happens when u see th3 same people day in and out who arent your family. school under 25 is different. but fulltime work or even casual aged th3 frick out of me. theres something about being in a place with others that also dont want to be there that is aging af.
25 and look like I haven't aged a day since high school. I take care of myself but I'm sure at some point I will look like I dove into the wall though. I feel like the longer you stave off aging the harder it ends up hitting you later.
Sure. Its a hard top convertible, not targa top. Love cruising it around town. People get really chatty at red lights and parking lots, so its made me more social.
Sure. Its a hard top convertible, not targa top. Love cruising it around town. People get really chatty at red lights and parking lots, so its made me more social.
So I had to look that up >Model S Plaid 60-130mph
4.71 seconds >c8 vette 60-130mph
12.2 seconds
BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAH Holy shit that thing is SLOW
>How do you feel about getting GAPPED by some EVChud?
Very happy that you get to enjoy your Model S Plaid. Im sure you have a lot of fun driving it. For me, I enjoy cruising through nice neighborhoods and chinatown while slightly baked with the top down.
I feel like my early 20's caught up with me and now i'm finally seeing the light at the end of that tunnel. I feel much better now at 30 than I did at 25. I go to the gym 4 days a week, sometimes doing doubles, and I eat much healthier, very rarely do I drink alcohol outside of work events. I finally feel more in-control of my life and my body and it's given me much more confidence and I take care of myself much better. I can see myself aging much more gracefully now. My hair on the sides and my beard is starting to go grey but my wife likes that look anyways so it works out.
I don't think it has to do with my appearance, because I have always been fit but when I got out of my last LTR and was single in my mid-thirties again I had a very easy time hooking up and dating, and it was a lot more difficult for me in my early to mid-twenties.
Not at all, I've always been slim, I'm 30 and my face and hair are almost the same when I was 20. But some of the guys I know, younger ones to add are already balding, have gray hair or did transplantation. Hell, even my own brother who's just 23 is having bald spots on top, sad.
If you have hair genes and haven't done much alcohol, cigarettes or drugs that frick up your face the wall isn't there for a long time.
I don’t feel I’ve hit a wall at 33.
I do well financially, have good social standing, masters education, have sex daily, and am in great shape.
Do I wish I wasn’t balding? Sure. But part of maturing is realizing the value systems people work on in their adult years are very different than when you’re younger.
I can wax and wane between looking like a homeless person and looking like a well put together guy whose gonna start a company. What allows me to do this is my hair, I grow it out when I get lazy and don’t shave, but when I want to look good I keep it short and shave regularly. Its actually crazy how much less attention I get from women when I dress and look like a bum.
Just turned 37. Got real fat after I got out of the military at 28. Stopped fricking around and started getting fit again at 35, looked like a human again at 36. Lowest I got down to was 182 @ 11.6% body fat (6'3"), currently around 195, probably 17ish %. Ultimately want to be 200 and still under 15%.
Decent career, own my own home. No wife or kids. I wouldn't say I'm doing amazing by any stretch of the imagination, but I'm doing ok.
No reason to compare yourself to other people; there are always people who will mog you, and always people you will mog. The only thing that matters is that you today is better than you yesterday. Once you stop caring about that and give up is when you have officially hit the wall.
No, I'm not worried. I didn't date seriously from basically my mid-20s until last year. I was satisfied on my own. I'm seeing a woman now that is 10 years younger than me. It would be preferable to me to have someone to share my life with, but if it doesn't work out it's not the end of the world for me.
As far as kids go, there are 7 billion people in the world, and while I (of course) think I am a good man and would be a good father, I don't think my genes are so amazing that I am doing anyone a disservice if I don't have kids. The family name won't die with me either; my brother is a better dude than me, his wife is amazing and they have two kids already and will probably have a third.
Yes, there are boats and planes. And how many of those poor wretches do you think will cross the Atlantic, compared to migrating within their continent, or going to Europe? Some will, of course, they do already. But far fewer than will take easier routes to closer destinations. And most of them will stay right where they are.
NGOs are giving thousands of Africans plane rides to USA to claim asylum. Who knows who's coming through Southern border.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>what is migration
There are 330 million people in the U.S. A few thousand Africans a year is a drop in the bucket. Europe has the worst problem with Sub-Saharan migrants, and they've picked up a whole one million in the last ~14 years. Y'all need to fricking relax.
Don't worry homosexuals, they aren't going to "Great Replacement" you with Africans. They'll do it with Latin Americans.
35 and while I acknowledge my "peak" physically is basically behind me that doesn't diminish the amazing feeling of a good pump and a nice deep breath of fresh air so I'm happy. Incidently I'm having way more sex in my 30s than I ever did in my 20s or teens, it helps being married to my high school sweetheart, putting three kids in her and her being bicurious.
Swinging life brutally mogs the dating game any day of the week when it comes to getting your dick wet.
I look better than i did as in my teens and early 20's because I'm not a landwhale anymore but my hair is permanently fricked from being a basketcase with trichotillomania during that time. At least no one from high school can recognize me anymore.
No I feel like I'm getting more handsome the older I get, unironically, at 18 I was a bit of an ugly duckling and now I'm getting a more rugged, refined look.
aging for th3 majority of men is a good thing. most men were never attractive under 40 and aging helps to make them more manly looking and normal at least.
I peaked at 16 >played football every Sunday >football practice 3 times a week, and gym 3 times a week
And in the summer I went swimming almost every day so I had a nice tan, long hair, abs, and I was the tallest one in my group of friends. I still remember the eyefricks I was getting. What a glorious time.
I still look young (36 but could pass for mid-20's) and I could easily get in shape again but I can't find the motivation
I turn 30 this year. No, I don't think so. If you take good care of yourself your 30s are the prime of a man's life in my opinion. Young enough to compete, old enough to not be a complete moron about it.
Some guys do age really badly though I guess. If my father is anything to go by then I'm going to look about the same until I'm 50 though. People tend to think we're brothers.
>I totally look like a teenager in my mid 30's bro!
No you don't. Teens have that high collagen and elastin that even people in their early 20's are already lacking. You acknowledge this which is why none of you ever post your fave >Muh I get carded
That's business procedure. Teens can clock you like the oldcel you are. Zoomers kek at every delusional millennial who claims to "still got it" and look "indistinguishable from a ln 18 year old". It's always failures who have nothing going for them, a mediocre career that cling on to this delusion that they still look young. You don't have any of the benefits that come with seniority like actual life experience, a high status job and respect so you have to be a the equivalent of a troony, clinging to your delusions to cope with reality. Every "you look 20!" comment you get by your 40 year old coworkers is half-hearted.
To be honest I think most men don’t hit the wall because they were never attractive enough for there to be a large change in their life/status because of degrading looks. I went from a 4 to a 3 personally, I wouldn’t really call this walling since there were never advantages to begin with. Meanwhile my money is up which I guess is what people refer to when they say male status increases. I think the vast majority of men never had the privilege of good looks to begin with, so there isn’t a wall. While a lot of pretty girls get by on looks alone and when those fade they feel like their life is over.
Not sure, I lost weight and was stressed for an entire year almost.
My face looks older, but not because of wrinkles, just looks slimmer. Which happens with aging.
Not sure if I can reverse this by gaining the weight again (around ten pounds)
I’m 26
I’ve considered a fat transfer, but not sure if I should wait until I’m 30-31
nah. but you sure have. inb4 >no i havent! >im still youthful and pretty
oh ho ho ho, you think a chick wants to frick a schizo who posts demoralization threads on IST every waking hour of every day? you probably have dirty dishes and trash next to you. maybe a piss jug or two
Nah. Everyone still thinks I'm 25 even though I just hit 32.
They always think I'm younger than my younger brother all the time who is 29. Feel bad for mogging him, but it's a moggy mog world.
No one thinks this. Post face. Unless you're a a former lookism Chad, chances are you are extremely delusional about your looks. If you don't know who Richard spencel, amnesia, arvid, the British curry cell guy is, you're a normgroid and therefore delusional
I think I'm a 5/10 but don't look old.
Not going to post face ever in your life so dream on blackpill Black person. Cry about it to your lookism ecelebs.
Ok?
Have a good day.
Nah you look your age. Every single person who gets mad for no reason at the black pill Boogeyman is delusional about their poor looks. You look your age, if not worse. The fact that you rated yourself a 5/10 means you're a 3 in actuality. Having soft and weak bone structure and little facial hair doesn't mean you're Dorian Gray, subhuman
You're a self admitted 5/10. It's beyond over for you
3 months ago
Anonymous
Whatever you say lmao.
Why are you even in this thread by the way? To whine about people that claim they look younger than their age?
Seems pathetic to me.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Just keking at delusional millenials forever stuck in purgatory of mentally being a child while having an old body and no respectability. Your entire gen is a failure
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'm just laughing at the fact you're desperately trying to get the last word in.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'm just laughing at the fact you're desperately trying to get the last word in.
You should meet up and have hot, steamy gay sex. Clear some of that sexual tension out of the air.
3 months ago
Anonymous
homosexuality is a sin tho
3 months ago
Anonymous
That's alright. Just repent later.
3 months ago
Anonymous
assuming god's mercy is also a sin tho
3 months ago
Anonymous
That's a central tenet of Christianity though. That if you sincerely repent for your sins, you will be forgiven.
Hoped on fin just in time, holy shit. I was already discussing with my barber that I might just shave it all off the next visit. Then I panicked and started with medicine, keto shampoo, dermaroll, you fricking name it.
4 months and boom, most of it is back. I might be a hyper responder, but I'll take it. Once I'm 50 or something I'll let it go, but not yet man.
Yeah.
But I gave up the idea of being with a woman back in my teens.
Now its just a personal disappointment in the fact that I can never be a beautiful man, no matter how much i wish to
Unfortunately yes. I'm stronger and physically better than ever but I lost my hair. Good news is that the norwood reaper already came so I don't have to fear him anymore and realistically speaking I can mantain my current looks for many years. The bad is that I'm an egghead at 30.
I'll be 30 soon
pros >no balding >better facial hair >maybe a bit fuller muscles that were built slowly over the years >bigger hands
cons >more wrinkles >grey hair here and there >herniated discs >less tolerance for getting myself out of the daily routine
I don't look like a trainwreck, I lost the youthful glow and look my age, but I didn't suddenly become ugly or something
Yes, unfortunately I think I hit the wall at 24 because of chronic illness and poor health, but whatever. I have a loving gf who I will stay with forever and that‘s all that matters.
On the outside it's about as shit as it's always been, on the inside it's far better. I'll take it. At least now I know how much facial fat matters and how fun fitness can be even if you're not good at it - and that you're allowed to try and not be instantly great.
I did. At 23-25, I looked fricked up, mainly from academic burnout and hating myself. I drank to excess. Now, I am destroying the wall and 60 days before my 26th birthday, I am the most muscular, pound for pound.
I started on fin in october and I already have a little regrowth. My corners have gone back a but but otherwise I have the same hair as when I was in middle school. I use sunscreen and tret daily, plus as an autist I avoid the sun, so my skin hasn't aged drastically. On top of that I finally achieved otter mode last year. So no, I haven't hit the wall, I look the best I ever have and I just turned 30
I hit the wall when I was born. I've literally been a complete loser for my entire life, currently 32.
I have absolutely nothing at all whatsoever in my life. No friends, no relationships or romantic experience ever, live with my parents but have very little relationship, no career, not even normal life skills. I'm terrified of everyone and terrified of everything. I can't relate to a single aspect of peope having a normal life, like everyone ITT is talking about.
Why I'm still alive, I have no idea. Most of my waking hours I think about how much I want to be dead and I even regularly wake up in the middle of the night and get swarmed by more thoughts about what a loser I am and how much I want to die so not even sleep gives me peace. It's over and it never even began
>I hit the wall when I was born
most males are like that. no worries. betabux is all they have. no other accomplishments, hence the whole muh wife and kids larp cause a kid they shit out and a post wall female that tolerates him is his only achievement. just be yourself.
Social avoidant personality disorder. No friends or relationships or family to give me happiness or goals to work towards, no self esteem, no self confidence. And the resultant devastating shame and humiliation of a wasted lifetime that makes me avoid people even more
I’m just curious guys: Why is everyone, literally every person, on fit always talking about how they look 10+ years younger then they are? Why are people in society always telling them how young they look? And do they actually think that people are just gonna go around saying “wow you look so much olde than you are”?
1. It's very common to ask people their age. That said, if you're in your 30s and people genuinely say you look in your mid 20s or whatever, their point of reference is a 26-y-o busted up jr accountant at Shekelstein & Sons, as opposed to the average easy-going 26-y-o (who actually looks 20).
2. No shit youth-mog threads have a bias for youthmaxcels. Same with powershart general and strong tubby boys.
I'm much more attractive at 32 than I was at 22. It comes does to a few things:
Better body
Better clothing style
Better hairstyle
More mature
More confident
More experienced
Have a career and high income
I have been going through a lookmaxxing phase for the last month also and I think that things are improving even more little by little
you're probably fine. he's referring to the particular subset of homosexuals who regular "lookism" forums and become the male equivalent of bogged, spray-tanned women
men who refer to themselves as "going to the gym" are generally fine. men who refer to themselves as "looksmaxxing" tend towards mentally ill. there's nothing wrong with trying to look better, there is something wrong with spending 3 hours a day on a lookism forum rating men's jawlines, contemplating jelqing, and measuring your wrists to determine if you should LDAR. it's very simple, if there's nothing wrong with you you have nothing to be offended by here.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>there's nothing wrong with x, x just gives me the ick
27, though I can see visable aging in my face (forehead wrinkles, eye bags), my beard is much fuller, my body is improving every day, I'm making strides in my career, and every day I see more and more women noticing me than ever before. 20-30 is the deadzone for men. Sure, you're prettier and young. If you're an 8, 9 or 10 you'll do well. If not, women don't even see you. So you focus on the gym and your career. By 30, you'll be insanely desired for your money, power, and experience. Women want a daddy, or at least a strong and firm adult in their lives. Don't worry about the wall, because men can outrun it with the things women care about far more than looks: money and power. Just take decent care of yourself and you'll do wonders.
No, I'm gonna be 46 in July and I have to say I'm in good shape. Lifting, cardio, low alcohol intake and Mediterranean diet.
BTW being on FIN for the last 5 years and hair still strong. Penor working good.
Gainz going up this winter.
Life's good.
No but it HAS to be coming soon. Nearly 34 and no knee injury despite being 50kg heavier than a coworker who blew his out at 29. It's been eating at me as much as I have been eating servo food. I don't think I'm gona make it.
The thing about youth is that you don't really need to know shit about health and fitness to be healthy and fit.
As you get older and that boost starts to fade you need to start doing things that maintain or increase your looks, health and fitness.
The right diet, the right supps, the right training program, the right habits.
If you "hit the wall" as a male at early twenties it just means you dont take training seriously, have multiple nutritional deficiencies, fap too often, don't get enough sunlight, and/or other bad habits.
34, literally best years of my life right now
Fittest I've ever been, consistent lifting is great and I built a home gym since I have a job that can afford it
Career is awesome, moved up the absolute shittyfrick ladder in my 20s but now I'm a senior software engineer/lead a team, it's awesome actually. I miss coding (I only code like 10% of my day now) but directing projects/managing a team is very rewarding (heart of hearts: It fricking feels like I'm leading a team of adventurers in a generic anime or some shit, we are sorta left to do what we want by the company because we churn out SBIRs all the time)
Bought a house. Small as frick but come with an acre.
Fiance is moving in with me next month, we've been together for long enough now that she really is my soul mate. Lover her to death.
Have a book club, video game nights, and board game night at least once a month. I DM a DnD campaign. Way too much social shit always going on, which is always fun.
Barely leaves time for hobbies. Got a ton. I will say if you do nothing else. Gardening is the most rewarding and soulful hobby you could ever dedicate your life to.
I look mid20s to 30 I guess, it's hard to really pin it down since I see myself every day. Not balding or anything, no wrinkles, skin looks fine but I've always used face lotion w/ sunscreen so I guess that works out.
fiance and I go to conventions twice a year. We do couples cosplay and an individual one and then just bring a bunch of nips and get sloshed while doing all the fun anime shit.
Dunno bros, I feel like it's only gotten better with life as long as you purposefully keep up the momentum. To be clear my life was absolute shit in my 20s; I was depressed, no friends, got obese, became an alcoholic. Around 28 I had a come-to-jesus moment and realized that this is it, and I wanted to be a different person, so I spent a year fighting against my habits before finally turning them around.
I actually looked sorta like the left pic for the first half of my 30s, was pretty fricking awesome. But then shit happened, life took a serious downturn which I think played a hand in aging me and now at 39 I'm starting to look a little rough, graying/thinning hair, wrinkles, the usual. 30+ women seem into it though, if only I was into them I could be banging old milfs all day lmao.
Anyway who gives a shit, aging is inevitable, just live your life and go hard.
No
I started using sunscreen everytime i go out, using adapalene everynight, following a skincare routine of moisturizer + face cleanser + eye cream + gotu kola cream for undereye bags + effaclar for the few acne i still get.
I dont drink alcohol, i dont drink coffee, i dont drink tea.
I drink lots of water and no junk food.
Sometimes i take days off and go with friends to garbage food places.
Am 24 and ppl i havent seen since school tell me i look the same, while they did hard partying and look 10 times older kek. Inshallah i become next chuando tan and get money
I look miles better than I did in my early 20s, only my hairline is definitely getting a bit worse. I've always had a pretty high forehead, though. In my early 20s I almost had a moon face from how much I was drinking and how bad my diet was. My jawline is incredible and my cheekbones are actually visible. I'm extremely confident about going into my 30s looking pretty good. Most alcohol disgusts me now and I hate eating food that isn't home cooked or from a good restaurant. I've been lifting regularly for 3 years now too >t. 29
I'm not sure how my attractiveness compares to 10y ago but I feel like I mog people my age more as I age and that's enough for me. Taking care of body, skin and hair has me sprinting ahead of all the fat balding guys let themselves go.
>be 30 >get unwanted attention from underage girls >get attention from 18 yr olds >get more noticed by older women
so i'm going to say no, thanks to me lifting, dressing better and my skincare
Nope.
I've aged very well despite my lifestyle
I am a bit fat though, but that can be reversed
The ultimate fat cope
>I’ve aged very well
>I’m a bit fat
Pick one and only one
lol once you lose that fat you'll see the lines and wrinkles on your face old man
what wall?
No I look the same if I shave, aging poorly is for people with shit genes and shit decision making skills
no, still baby-faced at 32 but my chud lines are starting to show and it got me tripping.
growing a beard adds 10 years to my appearance, it's whack
hair is everything. look at David Lynch.
and leaness is a double-edged sword. meth face (the stage precluding death face, so around 10-12BF%) can make you look much older if your skin care is not on point. you really need that 'glow' to pull it off.
>growing a beard adds 10 years to my appearance, it's whack
Me too bro, chopped it and went clean for the first time in years. People were telling me how young I look now.
I'm nearly 30 and women from mid teens to late 40s have expressed interest in me. Thank God I have tight, oily skin and nice hair. If I'm like the rest of my family I'm gonna look 20 until I'm in my early 60s. My wall is unironically joint pain and things like that. I feel limited because I've accumulated damage. Fixing that now so I can just look and feel young for a long time. Out of my way agecels
>and then he woke up
>and then you stopped being jealous
eat gelatin
Yeah, I pretty much look like right
This meme is cathartic because it makes me feel better about being an ugly balding loser
Nope, I'm only getting started now.
Stop mocking me
Holy shit...THAT'S ME
Doxxing is against the rules
I hate you but thats accurate. Well atleast 60% of my gen be like that so atleast im a normie now.
delete [plz
>has hair
Thankfully not about me
wheres the
>im 30 but everyone says i look 10 years younger than that
I'm 23 but that will be me in my 30s. perks of being a manlet with a babyface
MILLENNIAL BROS???
Are we not turning it all around at 34 after all? I thought we had more time to make it...
i can't wait to get those sexy hips
>middle aged
>started exercising again for the first time in over a decade
>50 situps
>half of those were assisted, i.e feet under furniture
>feel like throwing up
First time I've ever felt nauseated from exertion.
Repeat tomorrow.
And then the day after tomorrow.
And then the day after.
And then the day after.
And then the day after.
And then the day after.
And then the day after.
......till you feel good.
Should you do situps everyday?
ironically too close
Every single line of this is literally 100% me and I'm right about every single one
This is not me at all. The fact that this has so many (you)s make me believe that I should not listen to any single one of you losers.
that's literally me except I don't live with my parents
What the frick are you talking about? What the frick is a wall?
I'm 36, I look better than ever. People always ask if I'm 25. I've had so much pussy I don't even know what else to do. I've slept with almost 100 women. And I am not joking here.
Peace.
But are you in love?
Sleeping around doesn’t do it for men. It’s a cult to bully virgin morons. Once you have sex. It’s nothing special. It’s not exciting like being a 17 year old about to lose it. It’s boring. Being in love is different and being intimate with a lover is like being 17 about to bang your gf for the first time.
I can tell by your post you’re a virgin.
things that are going well in my 30's
>still have full head of hair
>still lifting
>still get mired
cons:
>not as lean as i was
>lower energy
>too much work makes me unavailable to opportunities
>feel that time is passing and youth is gone
The hair thing is huge imo because my friend group are losing their hair and going insane unironically
I started losing my hair in my teens and it unironically ruined my life
you can still be lean bro.
I'm 40 and well, it depends. I still have my hair, still have a six pack and now I have more money than ever. The 20 year old me mogs me though, and no comparison to the dating back then. However the thing is, maybe the dating game has changed too much anyway. I don't know if I'd get the same attention now if I was 20. It was WAY easier back then.
Show us 20 year old you.
no,
t.zoom z zoomer
I've hit the wall after age 7, used to be a blonde angel as a kid. Nature is cruel, at least i had enough time to digest the blackpill
Im 36 and my 2nd kid was born 2 days ago. Both kids are healthy and the newborn is sleeping all night so we’re chilling.
Mirin the family life my guy, congrats
how old were you when you had your first kid?
I'm 26 ( soon 27) and my gf wants to have kids in 2-3 years. Basically to have kids when we're 30yo.
I don't know if I'll be ready to be a father
This is because you're not sure if you want to be with your girlfriend at 30.
i really do. Even though I've cheated a few times, she's the one I want to keep.
I'm just unsure if I'll be a good father
>already cheated
You don't want to be with her and you don't love her, bro. You will not be a good father when you've already broken an easier commitment. Work on yourself.
If you're still cheating after your kid is born, you're playing a dangerous game with their well being and health. Not a good look for a dad.
>You don't want to be with her and you don't love her, bro.
are you a chick or something?
>i really do. Even though I've cheated a few times
Leave her and stay single you goose, how would you feel if she did that to you
Nah dude. Not that guy but I really want to spend my life with my gf. I just absolutely dread the idea of having kids and I'd only do it to make her happy. I can't even take care of myself. Every basic daily chore is a herculian task to me. I can work 24/7 but if it's something unrelated to work I break down.
I cannot imagine taking care of even an animal, let alone a child. I don't know how people do it.
I had my first kid when I was 33. We waited till 27 and it took a while to get my wife’s body to respond after so many years on birth control but it worked out in the end. Will most likely get a 3rd later for sure.
>6 years to have a kid
goddamn, that's 6 years of creampies
right, maybe I should just go for it. economically, we're good, and she's a good woman.
I doubt I'll ever find someone like her.
It’s around 14 years of creampies in total.
We had it pretty rough, she was in school and Covid just hit so I lost my job. But that’s old news. Go for it!
how old was your wife when you had your first kid and now your second kid?
Just curious, I've read that nowadays, it's relatively safe for women to have kids at age of 34
She is 2 years younger than me so 31 and 34. Both kids are perfectly healthy.
Also, you’ll never be ready to be a father. You can only find out by being one.
why are u shaving all ur hair
looks gay
thats nice anon. hope you didnt vax them
I got more attention as a 20 year old DYEL than as a 30 year old gymcel. But I've definitely aged better than most of my friends.
Just turned 30 few months ago and the cope was real as I expected. When you hit 30 you still feel like a ‘Chad’ because you think you are in a new decade and new things are coming, but my friends are turning 31 and 32 and they told me that honeymoon phase of 30 is over and now you are in your thirties for real.
Every years gets worse and no, you can unfrick the brutality of aging and your peak is over sooner than later. That’s why monk mode is so bad. People are willing to go 5 years ‘improving’ and gymcelling instead of just going try to get a gf while they are still young.
Staying lean gets twice as hard, gains are minimal and you can feel your test dropping if you frick up your sleep.
Now the girls part. Personally I think I was at my peak at 28. Right now I think my smv dropped like a mf. Girls look at me but I just know they have better options than me despite being an 6/10. In 2024 it will be worse.
I was here in 2020 posting my stories about how I used to pull my hoes. Now I turned into an incel. I’m dry since Oct 23.
Lmao get a load of this moron. I'm 33 and I've never felt or looked better in my life. I'm 6' 160 lbs ottermode without a hint of baldness. I hit the gym 5x a week. I catch girls staring at me wherever I go. I get compliments on my physique and people ask me for my routine.
Just because you're a lazy fat frick doesn't mean the rest of us have to be.
>160 lbs
>""""""""""6'""""""""""""
You mean 5'6"?
Bait right?….. right?
If you are still single at 30 you fricked up horrifically
What if your gf, fiance, wife cheated on you, left you for whatever reason, died, or whatever? I'm sure you still manage to shift the blame to the man, though. "Should've picked better"
Nah, I will relent that those are valid exceptions. There are always exceptions.
>Be minor sperg
>Good at hiding it
>Get engaged
>She finds out and leaves me
>Get close to marrying another girl a year later
>She finds out and leaves me
I seem destined for this cycle forever. The worst thing is when people appear perplexed cause I'm single and very good looking st 32. I don't know what to tell people.
How bad is your sperging? Do you have autism?
It's minor aspergers which is apparently a variant of autism. There are certain subjects I'm obsessed with and discussions about things I'm not interested feel laborious, engaging in them requires a lot of effort. I experience social dysfunction at times but I've mostly trained myself out of that.
The thing is I'm good at hiding it but as a girl gets to you intimately they pick up on it.
My current autistic obsession is curing autism by optimizing gut-health which according to my research and first hand experience is possible
>My current autistic obsession is curing autism by optimizing gut-health which according to my research and first hand experience is possible
Hope that works out for you.By the way a prolonged fast is the best way to reset your gut microbiome.
Yeah I have been doing plenty of fasting and noticed fantastic results. I have confirmed gut dysbiosis and even saw the little worms under a microscope.
>autistic about food
If my understanding is correct spergs tend to only ever want to eat 2 or 3 foods and are totally disinterested in eating anything else. When autistic kids are forced to eat different foods it decreases their tism. Try forcing yourself to eat different but healthy foods, this will diversify your microbiome. Haven't heard of Ray Peat, can you recommend some content of his?
I'm not so much autistic about specific foods but about optimizing nutrition through foods and I'm adamant about only eating stuff I consider fit my current nutrition knowledge "build", otherwise if I eat other things prepared by others etc it messes up food diary and introduces unknowns about the food effects.
Chadnet website has a section about Ray Peat with lots of his articles, although it's pretty advanced material so I'd recommend reading impero substack Ray Peat introduction first.
I like Weston Price a lot as well, lots of good stuff in his famous book.
I see I'm not alone; I'm decent at hiding my sperg level in public but when I get 1 on 1 with someone it shows very quickly so I don't even try dating anymore. I'm also depressed and giga anxious and autistic about food and have blood-injection-injury phobia so it's not fun everyday kek. Maybe look into Ray Peat regarding the gut microbuome and curing autism, if you don't already know about the guy, there's whole microcosm of spergs like us relayed to this guy, especially prolific on twitter.
if youre in ltr or married at 30 youre beta af lmfao.
My gf is thin and hot, but she started shit talking to me when we have an argument and she won’t shut the frick up. She will even make fun of me. She never cleans my home because she says it’s not her house despite her sleeping her 4-5 days a week and eating rice cakes on my bed and always leaving plates on the table after eating. Whenever I bring it up she told me that my house was a mess before she met me and that she helped me cleaned it twice(4 months ago was the last time) she told me that she has a house of her own to clean ( she lives with parents) and they even have a female cleaner from Phillipines or something.
We are getting married in August
>We are getting married in August
LMAO good luck with that shit
Ctrl C. Ctrl V. send her this in text to break up. mourn. so easy.
I turned 29 recently and never had a girlfriend
Since I am not shredded dating apps are impossible
time is running out
you lost befor3 it began lol. 90% men did so no worries.
>he didn’t start roiding at 30
LOL I feel better than ever at 36. Sad you fell for the demoralizer gaygortry
If your body is falling apart at 30 you have shit genetics or fricked up your body. I am 32 feel the same as I did in my 20s. I don't get this websites weird fear of ageing and why for men and women 30 is some magic number instead of an actually reasonable age for this sort of bullshit.
Because the majority of them are still-wet-behind-the-ears zoomers. 30 is half a lifetime away for most of them. Every year they'll get older and feel like they did the year prior. Then one day they'll wake up, and simultaneously realize that 1) they are now 30, and 2) they're still young, just not as dumb (hopefully).
>If your body is falling apart at 30 y
most people are falling apart by 27ish. i remember being 25 and seeing other 25 and thinking "whoa, wtf?"
its always fatties or couch potatoes whining about muh age. They just need to MOVE their lazy asses
>being natty in your 30s
get a load of this homosexual
Oh yes. I was Chad when <25 years old (genuinely). I'm 35, 50lbs overweight and balding. On my way to pic on the right. People I haven't seen in 10+ years are shocked to see me.
Lmao
You coasted on your genes for your teens and 20s, and then the aging process cucked you
Now you’re all lost, I just wrote about this phenomenon here
I'm not sure. I look in the mirror and see a complete piece of shit, but women still react positively to me. I think I just hit that age/look that women assume I have my life together/want to settle down
Absolutely not true but I enjoy the attention
I peaked at 24. Finally could grow a decent beard, had an alright body, dressed better than in my early 20s. A year later I started balding and my looks went to shit.
I hit 1/2/3/4 at 75kg and looked very good at 24 but the last three years I hit the wall going mach 10. Norwood 5 out of nowhere. I just generally look like shit and nothing really helps. If it gets worse by 30 I’m probably just gonna an hero. 27 now, and have a girlfriend I’m not attracted to (she probably isnt attracted to me either)
I hit the wall at age 16 when I stopped growing and became 5’6
Im bald now and my face is showing signs of aging, so yes i have hit the wall 🙁
but thats not the wall.
girls have a wall. lol.
>be me
>still have a full head of hair
>still lean because of running and lifting
>still maintaining my playful, youthful demeanor
>raking in money because an attorney
>have started seeing a girl who i actually like being around
imagine thinking lifting weights would change anything
>attorney
oof
I'll pray for you tonight
>attorney
I hope you get beheaded with a rusty chainsaw by a mexican cartel man
i don't believe in walls, the universe is infinite
I looked young up until I started medical school at 28. Within 3 years, I'd visibly aged by over a decade.
its whar happens when u see th3 same people day in and out who arent your family. school under 25 is different. but fulltime work or even casual aged th3 frick out of me. theres something about being in a place with others that also dont want to be there that is aging af.
Im 35 and 10+ years younger and fresher.
Gonna get some minor surgery done this spring to rejuvenate even further.
what kind of surgery?
orchiectomy uwu
FFS and facial fat transfer
What is ffs?
For fricks sake
The surgical operation, anon
I'm 30, thankfully used sunscreen all my life, kept my hair and am 10%bf.
People usually guess my age early twenties
No. I'm not at my peak, because I have some mental issues. But if I put in the work I'd be there in less than 2 months.
25 and look like I haven't aged a day since high school. I take care of myself but I'm sure at some point I will look like I dove into the wall though. I feel like the longer you stave off aging the harder it ends up hitting you later.
Happened to my dad he looked like a big baby until he was 40s then he turned 70 overnight.
Totally gray in a year got fatter and basically died.
About to turn 32 and feel like Timmy on the left whenever I drive around town. Finally got a nice car last year and visible abs a few months ago.
Post car.
Sure. Its a hard top convertible, not targa top. Love cruising it around town. People get really chatty at red lights and parking lots, so its made me more social.
Thank you for not getting a homosexual soft top, can't stand when people do that to cars.
How do you feel about getting GAPPED by some EVChud?
Also do not compare the 60-130 times on your car vs the Model S Plaid, you might have a nice day trying t cope with how bad it is...
So I had to look that up
>Model S Plaid 60-130mph
4.71 seconds
>c8 vette 60-130mph
12.2 seconds
BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAH Holy shit that thing is SLOW
>gapped
what difference does it make when we're both stuck behind karen in her 2024 SUV
Yeah but electric cars r gay
>60-130mph
Nice cope metric, post the track times homosexual
new tesla just dropped!
t.GAPPED
>How do you feel about getting GAPPED by some EVChud?
Very happy that you get to enjoy your Model S Plaid. Im sure you have a lot of fun driving it. For me, I enjoy cruising through nice neighborhoods and chinatown while slightly baked with the top down.
You're supposed to punch the wall into dust, defy logic, time, nature and thermodynamics
Its fricking pathetic how many people here get their self worth from women.
I feel like my early 20's caught up with me and now i'm finally seeing the light at the end of that tunnel. I feel much better now at 30 than I did at 25. I go to the gym 4 days a week, sometimes doing doubles, and I eat much healthier, very rarely do I drink alcohol outside of work events. I finally feel more in-control of my life and my body and it's given me much more confidence and I take care of myself much better. I can see myself aging much more gracefully now. My hair on the sides and my beard is starting to go grey but my wife likes that look anyways so it works out.
i look way better than i did my late teens/early 20's
t. 29 yo boomer
I don't think it has to do with my appearance, because I have always been fit but when I got out of my last LTR and was single in my mid-thirties again I had a very easy time hooking up and dating, and it was a lot more difficult for me in my early to mid-twenties.
Not at all, I've always been slim, I'm 30 and my face and hair are almost the same when I was 20. But some of the guys I know, younger ones to add are already balding, have gray hair or did transplantation. Hell, even my own brother who's just 23 is having bald spots on top, sad.
If you have hair genes and haven't done much alcohol, cigarettes or drugs that frick up your face the wall isn't there for a long time.
I don’t feel I’ve hit a wall at 33.
I do well financially, have good social standing, masters education, have sex daily, and am in great shape.
Do I wish I wasn’t balding? Sure. But part of maturing is realizing the value systems people work on in their adult years are very different than when you’re younger.
I can wax and wane between looking like a homeless person and looking like a well put together guy whose gonna start a company. What allows me to do this is my hair, I grow it out when I get lazy and don’t shave, but when I want to look good I keep it short and shave regularly. Its actually crazy how much less attention I get from women when I dress and look like a bum.
Just turned 37. Got real fat after I got out of the military at 28. Stopped fricking around and started getting fit again at 35, looked like a human again at 36. Lowest I got down to was 182 @ 11.6% body fat (6'3"), currently around 195, probably 17ish %. Ultimately want to be 200 and still under 15%.
Decent career, own my own home. No wife or kids. I wouldn't say I'm doing amazing by any stretch of the imagination, but I'm doing ok.
No reason to compare yourself to other people; there are always people who will mog you, and always people you will mog. The only thing that matters is that you today is better than you yesterday. Once you stop caring about that and give up is when you have officially hit the wall.
>Just turned 37
>No wife or kids.
Are you not worried??
I'm 31 and feel like I am running out of time asap.
No, I'm not worried. I didn't date seriously from basically my mid-20s until last year. I was satisfied on my own. I'm seeing a woman now that is 10 years younger than me. It would be preferable to me to have someone to share my life with, but if it doesn't work out it's not the end of the world for me.
As far as kids go, there are 7 billion people in the world, and while I (of course) think I am a good man and would be a good father, I don't think my genes are so amazing that I am doing anyone a disservice if I don't have kids. The family name won't die with me either; my brother is a better dude than me, his wife is amazing and they have two kids already and will probably have a third.
>No, I'm not worried
>there are 7 billion people in the world
>more Black folk
well it was a fun ride.
oh wait it wasnt at all
That's a problem for Sub-Saharan Africa and the regions relatively near it, less so for me.
Don't worry, that’s what boats and planes are for
Yes, there are boats and planes. And how many of those poor wretches do you think will cross the Atlantic, compared to migrating within their continent, or going to Europe? Some will, of course, they do already. But far fewer than will take easier routes to closer destinations. And most of them will stay right where they are.
NGOs are giving thousands of Africans plane rides to USA to claim asylum. Who knows who's coming through Southern border.
There are 330 million people in the U.S. A few thousand Africans a year is a drop in the bucket. Europe has the worst problem with Sub-Saharan migrants, and they've picked up a whole one million in the last ~14 years. Y'all need to fricking relax.
Don't worry homosexuals, they aren't going to "Great Replacement" you with Africans. They'll do it with Latin Americans.
>what is migration
No, i picked up lifting at 21, im 27 now and have always pussy on my side
Liberals made me MALD at 18. It’s so over
good head shape for baldness.
did you just get out of bed? why does your head have a pillow crease?
35 and while I acknowledge my "peak" physically is basically behind me that doesn't diminish the amazing feeling of a good pump and a nice deep breath of fresh air so I'm happy. Incidently I'm having way more sex in my 30s than I ever did in my 20s or teens, it helps being married to my high school sweetheart, putting three kids in her and her being bicurious.
Swinging life brutally mogs the dating game any day of the week when it comes to getting your dick wet.
>Swinging life
what the frick
I look better than i did as in my teens and early 20's because I'm not a landwhale anymore but my hair is permanently fricked from being a basketcase with trichotillomania during that time. At least no one from high school can recognize me anymore.
No I feel like I'm getting more handsome the older I get, unironically, at 18 I was a bit of an ugly duckling and now I'm getting a more rugged, refined look.
aging for th3 majority of men is a good thing. most men were never attractive under 40 and aging helps to make them more manly looking and normal at least.
I peaked at 16
>played football every Sunday
>football practice 3 times a week, and gym 3 times a week
And in the summer I went swimming almost every day so I had a nice tan, long hair, abs, and I was the tallest one in my group of friends. I still remember the eyefricks I was getting. What a glorious time.
I still look young (36 but could pass for mid-20's) and I could easily get in shape again but I can't find the motivation
I've managed to age pretty decently, have my hair, no wrinkles, skin still smooth but it means frick all cause I'm a 30year old khv
I turn 30 this year. No, I don't think so. If you take good care of yourself your 30s are the prime of a man's life in my opinion. Young enough to compete, old enough to not be a complete moron about it.
Some guys do age really badly though I guess. If my father is anything to go by then I'm going to look about the same until I'm 50 though. People tend to think we're brothers.
30 but people think I'm early 20s. Energy and sex drive are low as ever tho
>I totally look like a teenager in my mid 30's bro!
No you don't. Teens have that high collagen and elastin that even people in their early 20's are already lacking. You acknowledge this which is why none of you ever post your fave
>Muh I get carded
That's business procedure. Teens can clock you like the oldcel you are. Zoomers kek at every delusional millennial who claims to "still got it" and look "indistinguishable from a ln 18 year old". It's always failures who have nothing going for them, a mediocre career that cling on to this delusion that they still look young. You don't have any of the benefits that come with seniority like actual life experience, a high status job and respect so you have to be a the equivalent of a troony, clinging to your delusions to cope with reality. Every "you look 20!" comment you get by your 40 year old coworkers is half-hearted.
Youre right. I definitely look and feel older in my 30s, but it feels like its a good thing. I feel like a man now.
Seethe more baldie
in case you weren't aware, women aren't attracted to men who look like they're 20.
I’m only interested in teens, most of which want a guy who is early twenties
Incorrect. Women attractive young women prefer men their own age.
To be honest I think most men don’t hit the wall because they were never attractive enough for there to be a large change in their life/status because of degrading looks. I went from a 4 to a 3 personally, I wouldn’t really call this walling since there were never advantages to begin with. Meanwhile my money is up which I guess is what people refer to when they say male status increases. I think the vast majority of men never had the privilege of good looks to begin with, so there isn’t a wall. While a lot of pretty girls get by on looks alone and when those fade they feel like their life is over.
Not sure, I lost weight and was stressed for an entire year almost.
My face looks older, but not because of wrinkles, just looks slimmer. Which happens with aging.
Not sure if I can reverse this by gaining the weight again (around ten pounds)
I’m 26
I’ve considered a fat transfer, but not sure if I should wait until I’m 30-31
nah. but you sure have. inb4
>no i havent!
>im still youthful and pretty
oh ho ho ho, you think a chick wants to frick a schizo who posts demoralization threads on IST every waking hour of every day? you probably have dirty dishes and trash next to you. maybe a piss jug or two
Nah. Everyone still thinks I'm 25 even though I just hit 32.
They always think I'm younger than my younger brother all the time who is 29. Feel bad for mogging him, but it's a moggy mog world.
No one thinks this. Post face. Unless you're a a former lookism Chad, chances are you are extremely delusional about your looks. If you don't know who Richard spencel, amnesia, arvid, the British curry cell guy is, you're a normgroid and therefore delusional
I think I'm a 5/10 but don't look old.
Not going to post face ever in your life so dream on blackpill Black person. Cry about it to your lookism ecelebs.
Ok?
Have a good day.
Nah you look your age. Every single person who gets mad for no reason at the black pill Boogeyman is delusional about their poor looks. You look your age, if not worse. The fact that you rated yourself a 5/10 means you're a 3 in actuality. Having soft and weak bone structure and little facial hair doesn't mean you're Dorian Gray, subhuman
Didn't read
Seethe some more
You're a self admitted 5/10. It's beyond over for you
Whatever you say lmao.
Why are you even in this thread by the way? To whine about people that claim they look younger than their age?
Seems pathetic to me.
Just keking at delusional millenials forever stuck in purgatory of mentally being a child while having an old body and no respectability. Your entire gen is a failure
I'm just laughing at the fact you're desperately trying to get the last word in.
You should meet up and have hot, steamy gay sex. Clear some of that sexual tension out of the air.
homosexuality is a sin tho
That's alright. Just repent later.
assuming god's mercy is also a sin tho
That's a central tenet of Christianity though. That if you sincerely repent for your sins, you will be forgiven.
i believe him lol. whats wrong with u lol. 32 and 25 can look close.
Hoped on fin just in time, holy shit. I was already discussing with my barber that I might just shave it all off the next visit. Then I panicked and started with medicine, keto shampoo, dermaroll, you fricking name it.
4 months and boom, most of it is back. I might be a hyper responder, but I'll take it. Once I'm 50 or something I'll let it go, but not yet man.
Yeah.
But I gave up the idea of being with a woman back in my teens.
Now its just a personal disappointment in the fact that I can never be a beautiful man, no matter how much i wish to
I'm 40, dating a 22 year old. My clubbing friends are mostly mid 20's .. few guys my age that are owners / managers etc ..
Work friends are almost all older than me.
If you think you're hitting the wall as a man, you really need to step it up.
ITT broke bois who can't HGH / IGF-1 / NAD+
its not that expensive right? like you can get your monthly supply for a 100bucks or so.
are you on it? should i start it? im middle aged as frick now.
Yeah, I feel like it. Essentially bald, wrinkles coming in when I move my face, skins not what it used to be
Still get interest from women though
Unfortunately yes. I'm stronger and physically better than ever but I lost my hair. Good news is that the norwood reaper already came so I don't have to fear him anymore and realistically speaking I can mantain my current looks for many years. The bad is that I'm an egghead at 30.
Nope, only fat and losing weight fast. I'm handsome but not Chad status yet. Grew up poor with no father figure so thats something I'm working on too.
Right - how i looked at 23
Left - how i look at 27
(Yes i also got a hair transplant)
where did you get it ?
was it expensive?
how is the after transplant treatment?
No. I'm not a roastie.
Next question
almost hit the wall hard at 30yo
hopped on Fin and started working out, now I look better than ever before
I had to hop on it at 23 :/
27 with a full set of hair, achieved 1/2/3/4 and have a job making 90k/yr without a college diploma. Also bought a 2020 Honda civic
5 years ago I had a beer belly, horrible gyno (for which I had to have surgery for) and a labor job making $12/hr while also drinking myself to death.
>have a job making 90k/yr without a college diploma
whats that
Yes. Hit it before I even turned 18. I was a very beautiful teen, girls loved me. Ten years later I'm a disgusting, scary man.
nope, started lifting 6 months ago
Show after picture too moron
I'll be 30 soon
pros
>no balding
>better facial hair
>maybe a bit fuller muscles that were built slowly over the years
>bigger hands
cons
>more wrinkles
>grey hair here and there
>herniated discs
>less tolerance for getting myself out of the daily routine
I don't look like a trainwreck, I lost the youthful glow and look my age, but I didn't suddenly become ugly or something
Yes, unfortunately I think I hit the wall at 24 because of chronic illness and poor health, but whatever. I have a loving gf who I will stay with forever and that‘s all that matters.
On the outside it's about as shit as it's always been, on the inside it's far better. I'll take it. At least now I know how much facial fat matters and how fun fitness can be even if you're not good at it - and that you're allowed to try and not be instantly great.
I did. At 23-25, I looked fricked up, mainly from academic burnout and hating myself. I drank to excess. Now, I am destroying the wall and 60 days before my 26th birthday, I am the most muscular, pound for pound.
I'm a virgin. For life.
And by choice. I will never have sex and I turn down all women. Not gay, either.
Be honest bros... How bad am I balding
what did your hairline look like when you were 12?
Pretty much the same, but my temples are more slanted now.
dont think so, im 18
I started on fin in october and I already have a little regrowth. My corners have gone back a but but otherwise I have the same hair as when I was in middle school. I use sunscreen and tret daily, plus as an autist I avoid the sun, so my skin hasn't aged drastically. On top of that I finally achieved otter mode last year. So no, I haven't hit the wall, I look the best I ever have and I just turned 30
NEET my whole life but I've always eaten healthy and exercised in my home gym. I think i have aged pretty well.
However i am socially moronic
I hit the wall when I was born. I've literally been a complete loser for my entire life, currently 32.
I have absolutely nothing at all whatsoever in my life. No friends, no relationships or romantic experience ever, live with my parents but have very little relationship, no career, not even normal life skills. I'm terrified of everyone and terrified of everything. I can't relate to a single aspect of peope having a normal life, like everyone ITT is talking about.
Why I'm still alive, I have no idea. Most of my waking hours I think about how much I want to be dead and I even regularly wake up in the middle of the night and get swarmed by more thoughts about what a loser I am and how much I want to die so not even sleep gives me peace. It's over and it never even began
>I hit the wall when I was born
most males are like that. no worries. betabux is all they have. no other accomplishments, hence the whole muh wife and kids larp cause a kid they shit out and a post wall female that tolerates him is his only achievement. just be yourself.
What do you think is holding you back from accomplishing anything?
Social avoidant personality disorder. No friends or relationships or family to give me happiness or goals to work towards, no self esteem, no self confidence. And the resultant devastating shame and humiliation of a wasted lifetime that makes me avoid people even more
yep, that's me
Yes. And I continued to hit it until it broke. Now I'm too moronic to do anything but punch walls
I'm 35 and everybody thinks I'm 25
I look pretty much the same
I'll be 35 in a few months and starting to lift at 20 was the best decision ever.
Anyone saying that they're peaking physically in their 30s just means that they underachieved during their 20s.
The average age for a UFC Champion is 31. Stop b***hing
I turn 25 this year and people think I look 20.
Good sign avoid stress
I’m just curious guys: Why is everyone, literally every person, on fit always talking about how they look 10+ years younger then they are? Why are people in society always telling them how young they look? And do they actually think that people are just gonna go around saying “wow you look so much olde than you are”?
1. It's very common to ask people their age. That said, if you're in your 30s and people genuinely say you look in your mid 20s or whatever, their point of reference is a 26-y-o busted up jr accountant at Shekelstein & Sons, as opposed to the average easy-going 26-y-o (who actually looks 20).
2. No shit youth-mog threads have a bias for youthmaxcels. Same with powershart general and strong tubby boys.
I'm much more attractive at 32 than I was at 22. It comes does to a few things:
Better body
Better clothing style
Better hairstyle
More mature
More confident
More experienced
Have a career and high income
I have been going through a lookmaxxing phase for the last month also and I think that things are improving even more little by little
>lookmaxxing
This shit is going to frick you head. Quit it.
>quit trying to look your best
Yeah nah, gonna keep improoooving
you're probably fine. he's referring to the particular subset of homosexuals who regular "lookism" forums and become the male equivalent of bogged, spray-tanned women
I figured that's what he was getting at
Yeah, I'd never go anywhere near that far
Why default it to that? Gymbro = roidtroony. Oh look I just generalized
men who refer to themselves as "going to the gym" are generally fine. men who refer to themselves as "looksmaxxing" tend towards mentally ill. there's nothing wrong with trying to look better, there is something wrong with spending 3 hours a day on a lookism forum rating men's jawlines, contemplating jelqing, and measuring your wrists to determine if you should LDAR. it's very simple, if there's nothing wrong with you you have nothing to be offended by here.
>there's nothing wrong with x, x just gives me the ick
27, though I can see visable aging in my face (forehead wrinkles, eye bags), my beard is much fuller, my body is improving every day, I'm making strides in my career, and every day I see more and more women noticing me than ever before. 20-30 is the deadzone for men. Sure, you're prettier and young. If you're an 8, 9 or 10 you'll do well. If not, women don't even see you. So you focus on the gym and your career. By 30, you'll be insanely desired for your money, power, and experience. Women want a daddy, or at least a strong and firm adult in their lives. Don't worry about the wall, because men can outrun it with the things women care about far more than looks: money and power. Just take decent care of yourself and you'll do wonders.
No, I'm gonna be 46 in July and I have to say I'm in good shape. Lifting, cardio, low alcohol intake and Mediterranean diet.
BTW being on FIN for the last 5 years and hair still strong. Penor working good.
Gainz going up this winter.
Life's good.
Where is this obsession with men walling coming from lately?
No but it HAS to be coming soon. Nearly 34 and no knee injury despite being 50kg heavier than a coworker who blew his out at 29. It's been eating at me as much as I have been eating servo food. I don't think I'm gona make it.
I was obese on my teens and morbidly obese on my 20s. Getting fit on my 30s so this is like the reverse pic.
I hit the wall in middle school when I got acne, but I am 27 and my coworker thinks I am 19
Yeah I guess..
The thing about youth is that you don't really need to know shit about health and fitness to be healthy and fit.
As you get older and that boost starts to fade you need to start doing things that maintain or increase your looks, health and fitness.
The right diet, the right supps, the right training program, the right habits.
If you "hit the wall" as a male at early twenties it just means you dont take training seriously, have multiple nutritional deficiencies, fap too often, don't get enough sunlight, and/or other bad habits.
since i've only neeted my entire life my skin isn't so bad but i do lack muscle
34, literally best years of my life right now
Fittest I've ever been, consistent lifting is great and I built a home gym since I have a job that can afford it
Career is awesome, moved up the absolute shittyfrick ladder in my 20s but now I'm a senior software engineer/lead a team, it's awesome actually. I miss coding (I only code like 10% of my day now) but directing projects/managing a team is very rewarding (heart of hearts: It fricking feels like I'm leading a team of adventurers in a generic anime or some shit, we are sorta left to do what we want by the company because we churn out SBIRs all the time)
Bought a house. Small as frick but come with an acre.
Fiance is moving in with me next month, we've been together for long enough now that she really is my soul mate. Lover her to death.
Have a book club, video game nights, and board game night at least once a month. I DM a DnD campaign. Way too much social shit always going on, which is always fun.
Barely leaves time for hobbies. Got a ton. I will say if you do nothing else. Gardening is the most rewarding and soulful hobby you could ever dedicate your life to.
I look mid20s to 30 I guess, it's hard to really pin it down since I see myself every day. Not balding or anything, no wrinkles, skin looks fine but I've always used face lotion w/ sunscreen so I guess that works out.
fiance and I go to conventions twice a year. We do couples cosplay and an individual one and then just bring a bunch of nips and get sloshed while doing all the fun anime shit.
Dunno bros, I feel like it's only gotten better with life as long as you purposefully keep up the momentum. To be clear my life was absolute shit in my 20s; I was depressed, no friends, got obese, became an alcoholic. Around 28 I had a come-to-jesus moment and realized that this is it, and I wanted to be a different person, so I spent a year fighting against my habits before finally turning them around.
I actually looked sorta like the left pic for the first half of my 30s, was pretty fricking awesome. But then shit happened, life took a serious downturn which I think played a hand in aging me and now at 39 I'm starting to look a little rough, graying/thinning hair, wrinkles, the usual. 30+ women seem into it though, if only I was into them I could be banging old milfs all day lmao.
Anyway who gives a shit, aging is inevitable, just live your life and go hard.
No
I started using sunscreen everytime i go out, using adapalene everynight, following a skincare routine of moisturizer + face cleanser + eye cream + gotu kola cream for undereye bags + effaclar for the few acne i still get.
I dont drink alcohol, i dont drink coffee, i dont drink tea.
I drink lots of water and no junk food.
Sometimes i take days off and go with friends to garbage food places.
Am 24 and ppl i havent seen since school tell me i look the same, while they did hard partying and look 10 times older kek. Inshallah i become next chuando tan and get money
Nah, I looked like shit 19-23 because I ate like shit, didn' work out, and got drunk 3 times a week
6 years later of working out, eating better, and absolutely no drinking, I completely MOG my younger self mentally and physically.
The people who mogged me at 21 look like shit now though. So maybe some of us are just late bloomers
I look miles better than I did in my early 20s, only my hairline is definitely getting a bit worse. I've always had a pretty high forehead, though. In my early 20s I almost had a moon face from how much I was drinking and how bad my diet was. My jawline is incredible and my cheekbones are actually visible. I'm extremely confident about going into my 30s looking pretty good. Most alcohol disgusts me now and I hate eating food that isn't home cooked or from a good restaurant. I've been lifting regularly for 3 years now too
>t. 29
I was born beyond the wall
i hit the reverse wall, i looked like a 14 year old teenager until 25 now i finally look like a young adult
>The wall
That's when women start to become infertile. Men that take good care of themselves don't end up all fricked up like that
>mfw my lower 20 year old co workers thought I was one of them
the key to eternal youth is gooning
No. I have a perfect hairline at 30 and I'm slim.
I don't lift and eat like shit.
My back is killing me though.
>I don't lift and eat like shit.
How did this affect your face aging?
Nearly 40 and I'm on the left. Longer hair and better hairline though.
not yet but it's coming fast, bros.
I rubbed in bunch of rogaine in a thinning spot and now Ive had a big bald spot for 3 years. I'm 28 dont be like me. I used to be so hot
I'm not sure how my attractiveness compares to 10y ago but I feel like I mog people my age more as I age and that's enough for me. Taking care of body, skin and hair has me sprinting ahead of all the fat balding guys let themselves go.
32 and everything hurts.
Just eat raw meat
>be 30
>get unwanted attention from underage girls
>get attention from 18 yr olds
>get more noticed by older women
so i'm going to say no, thanks to me lifting, dressing better and my skincare
Yes
You'll hit the wall as soon as you're vain enough to believe it