hey anons, ive currently been experimenting with an all beef and egg diet
> currently eat on average 6-12 eggs a day
> avg about .75 to 1lb of red meat every day with kefir and cheese
Anyone tried this? what am i in for long term
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Health problems
such as?
Yes
Scurvy would be a concern. Eat some fruit every once in a while unless you want bleeding gums, poor healing wounds with higher infection risk, and having your hair fall out. It's been known in survivalist circles for decades that you can survive indefinitely on a combo of eggs and a fruit of choice. If you want to stick with carnivore 100% then you should source some sheep's milk. It's one of the only animal products with a good amount of vitamin C in it
>inb4 a schizo comes in talking about how vitamin C requirements are lessened when eating a carnivore diet
They are but not by much. Same logic as when people into fasting talk about it being muscle sparing. It's not nearly as much as your favorite grifter claims it to be
Vitamin C requirements are lessened by much when you eat 0 carbs. I still eat some vegetables/fruit and take some vit C supplement, but I'm not sure it makes sense historically. Because humans used to live for long periods of time on just animals. Raw liver and meat probably has enough vitamin C, but if humans used to live on animals and cook the meat, then I'm not sure why that used to be fine and now isn't anymore.
All that is speculation. Who honestly knows what prehistoric humans ate. However as a species we have long advanced since our cavemen days and they were far from optimal. That being said we have more recent examples of people surviving without stable sources of vitamin C and the problems it causes. Supplementing is better than nothing , but ultimately moronic, when you could just eat two potatoes a day and be fine.
>All that is speculation. Who honestly knows what prehistoric humans ate
The content of the bones of prehistoric man have been examined and it showed that most humans were mesocarnivores. You can tell what an animal lived on by the content of the bones. What primarily mattered was what was available but when animals were there to eat humans ate them. Oftentimes to extinction. There's a good reason most of the world doesn't have megafauna anymore.
Cool but can you tell me with complete certainty that cavemen didnt eat tubers and greens in the winter and spring months. Bone analysis is great, but ultimately speculation on what the exact intake was of ancient men. Truth is when your hungry youll eat whatever you can. Our ancestors werent picky and would eat a proto-potato or any other vegetablein the harsh winter months when half of them probably died off due to exposure and starvation. Fact is your body has been built by that exact same thing. Humans greatest advantage is our adaptability. We can readily switch between carnivore and vegetarian diets on the fly, but ultimately require bits from both to function properly
It's speculation to a certain degree, but stable isotope analysis of bones has given us a good amount of evidence that at least some archaic humans did eat close to a carnivore diet for most of their life.
I don't doubt humans ate plant matter, but it was nowhere near the amount of fast digestable carbs most people eat nowadays.
Also taking a vit C pill is way easier than cooking pototoes every day (and a pill also doesn't prevent ketosis).
>wanting to be in ketosis
Oh so your moronic thats the issue i see
You are discussing with a keto/carnivore shill its always the same playbook
>your moronic
>he doest know
Lurk more newbie, post your one rep max so we can laugh
There are tons of benefits of ketosis, especially for decreasing risk of neurological disorders (which I probably have an increased risk of, genetically). But it's just my personal choice, I never said or recommended a ketogenic diet for anyone who doesn't have or cares about those things.
Being ideologically opposed to ketosis or low carb is as closeminded as being ideologically opposed to a car-rich diet.
Yeah but i seen first hand ketosis turns you into a gay shill who demoralizes and leads people trying to improve themselves astray.
Verification not required. Man keto/carnivore confirmed the cause of homosexuality
Vegans and globohomos are the biggest shills and they're way worse because they want to take away choice and freedom. Low carbers don't give a shit if others eat carbs and processed junk, but vegans and globohomos want to ban all high quality food sources and replace them with söyburgers, patented fake meat, sneed oils, and sugar.
Humans rarely went for long periods of time only eating animals. The only exceptions were in especially harsh environments or seasons where plants just didn't grow. Humans across the planet would regularly scavenge for berries, roots, edible grasses, and other plant matter to supplement their diet with. We evolved as apex hunters but we didn't fully evolve into obligate carnivores. We still have much of the physiology of a herbivore, notably a frugivore, with specific adaptations like intensely strong stomach acid to digest meat. We still need some plant matter in our diet to thrive
>Because humans used to live for long periods of time on just animals
You have no source for this because you made it up/heard it from a YouTube video
see
I accept your concession
Tons of carnivore people yet not a single case of scurvy, how surprising.
Some people do carnivore for autoimmune reasons so they never cheat, and they don't have scurvy.
Scurvy is a big meme. It was mostly because people on ships drank alcohol instead of water because water couldn't be kept clean for long travels. It's not really a thing anymore.
Iirc, beef is a source of vitamin C. There was a league of legends player (TheOddOne) who ate only chicken dinners and got scurvy, but I think beef has a sufficient amount of vitamin C
i regularly eat these foods and i can confirm i'm experiencing fullness
the eggs are fine dude but a pound of meat every day is gonna catch up to you eventually, depends on the person
how so?
the saturated fat is gonna build up LDL in your arteries
I went through a similar diet over the course of 6 months, with blood tests done before during and after that period. It is now very high, which should not be a shocker to anyone but the broest of the broscientist.
Just be aware of this, and see how far you can go. It does have benefits on the short term, I've seen them.
been doing it for a year now feel fine
> i go back to carbs and shit food my stomach hates me
i dont poop sometime sfor like 2-3 days then i shit this massive log thats atleast 8-13 inches long and it clogs the toilet
>been doing it for a year now feel fine
Same here, but there's a limit to how much one can frick around. Once LDL gets very high, you better take action.
LDL isn't harmful, and it's actually protective against infection and other diseases.
Remnant cholesterol is a risk factor for heart disease.
Notice how you only got shill responses and the guy you responded to who acted like he was just curious seems to have not said anything? He is one of the responderd btw
Yea, you're right. Hopefully people won't fall for this meme diet and stay critical.
For me its mixed. On one hand its natural selection on the other they should frick off back to r.eddit and stop shitting up this board with their low quality posts
LDL being high in your blood is the NOT the same as build up of LDL in your arteries. The difference is literally vitamin K. You and most doctors are clueless about vitamin K and even more clueless about what LDL does (chances are they went to school or were taught by people who never even heard of vitamin K, and base their instruction on bullshit about chloesterol from the 50s "research" the same research who think a high carb diet is fine despite it being used to make cows FATTER!)
Dietary cholesterol does not increase Blood cholesterol. Read a book, moron. Dietary cholesterol has never been proven to be linked to the cholesterol levels in your blood.
Processed carbs and sugar have though.
that anon didnt say shit about dietary cholesterol. for all you know he could have been referring to saturated fat, which IS linked to total cholesterol and LDL
Stearic acid, the main saturated fat in beef, isn't though.
Diarrhea and red skin.
all eggs and chicken is the way to go IMO
Red meat is way more nutritious than bird meat. Preferably from ruminants.
Scurvy, heart disease, stroke, vitamin k, e, a, deficiency, magnesium potassium and some other mineral deficiencies im too lazy to look up. Just add some veggies like potatoes(sweet or regular), peas, pumpkin/butternut squash, or broccoli and do chicken or fish a few times a week instead of beef youd be fine.
Except maybe scurvy, not a single of the other problems you listed will happen.
How are you so certain, check the micros on all the foods you listed. There are glaring gaps in vitamins. Deficiency doesnt necessarily mean disease, but it means an unhealthy body more prone to disease. Go get a full panel of vitamin and mineral values checked then report back before you speak
What you eat influences what you need. Micros from animals are also way more absorable and more bioavailable than from plants. Some plants are even a net negative on the micros they supposedly contain due to things like phytic acid and lectins. People eating a carnivore diet typically have normal/good blood levels, aside from vitamin D if they don't get sunlight and don't supplement.
Man if only the sailors and arctic explores who died of scurvy knew that. Truth is carnivore and keto diets are only enjoyed by homosexuals. This has been thoroughly explained by how much they enjoy taking dr baker’s dick in their stretched out bussy. Frick all you shills who shit up this board with your shitty diets. All of you are dyel homosexuals.
Verification not required
Sailors and explorers didn't have access to fresh meat, moron.
>what is fish, saltpork, saltbeef
You never have read into any explorers have you
>fresh
also they drank beer and ate carbs
You're moronic if you think sailors ate carnivore
Its almost like there have been documented occurrence of arctic explorers and sailors running out of vegetables and fruit, and being reliant on their more shelf stable salted meat or fresh fish, and them getting sick and dying from scurvy
they mostly ate hardtack which is obviously not carnivore you fricking moron
>missing the point this hard
The point is that they were getting micronutrients only from meat and not other things.
It's funny though that you can eat nothing but beef and the only thing that might or might not happen is scurvy. Meanwhile you need to eat a gazillion fruits, vegetables, and grains, amd you'll still end up deficient in some things.
If you eat exclusively beef you will get scurvy guaranteed
Not if you eat a bit of raw liver.
mouthbreathing fricking moron, vitamin C metabolism changes when you consume carbs. Your body needs less vitamin C when you eat a carnivore diet.
Alright if you homos are done swapping spit, what if I just have a handful of berries every day for key micros and C? I don’t give a shit if it's only 97% meat and eggs or whatever. I just want to primarily get food from things that make me feel full.
Pretty much any vegetable/fruit that contains vit C will work.
Yeah this will work but good luck paying for all that meat
Liver, you fricking idiot.
well missing carbs is only going to matter if you do something other than sit down all day, but you probably don't walk/run/swim/cardio at all so that wont matter
lack of vitamins and nutrients from coloured foods (veg+fruit n shit) is probably going to leave you with some form of disease or sickness.
Other than that everything should be fine and I didn't read a single post in this thread.
Throw in a few red potatoes. Youll be aiight kid
>all beef and egg diet
>kefir and cheese
How about I shit in your open mouth?
I tried a carnivore diet in 2021 for around 6 months. My diet was typically a dozen eggs, 8-16oz of cheese, and a pound of beef or pork a day. Magnesium and manganese was supplemented.
Athletic performance was unaffected (lifts slowly increased, body weight stayed the same), but I felt shitty and sleep quality was horrible. It often took 2 hours to fall asleep.
Bloodwork comparison between 2019 (190lb, 50% carb, 25% protein, 25% fat), 2021 (200lb, 5% carb, 30% protein, 65% fat), and 2023 (200lb, 45% carb, 25% protein, 30% fat) was as follows:
Total Cholesterol: 136, 180, 172
HDL: 46, 62, 53
LDL: 69, 107, 103
Triglycerides: 119, 39, 75
Workout intensity/frequency was the same during each time period, but I was pushing carts 36 hours a week (70 miles of walking) in 2021. Despite my best blood results coming from carnivore, I’d advise against eating nothing but beef and eggs simply because your sleep quality is going to make quality of life unbearable.
>poor sleep quality
You probably had an electrolyte imbalance. Adding more salt or fruit/fruit juice for electrolytes helps most carnivore dieters.
Your farts must be brutal
add vegetables you fool
>what am in for long term
Easy gains, high libido, lots of energy, low inflammation, faster recovery.
Ignore the vegan gay, he wants you to be as mentally ill and dyel as him. Add organ meat for micronutrients (ex.: liver for the b vitamins).
>advice from a. Supplement skill who changes his diet advice regularly
No thanks