is it really that bad?
should you shave it with a gilette and look like a thumb, or buzzcut and let the horseshoe appear (and looking visibly older)
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being bald in your early 30s
is it really that bad?
should you shave it with a gilette and look like a thumb, or buzzcut and let the horseshoe appear (and looking visibly older)
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are you norwood 7 already in your 30's ?
Yes. 27.
yes it's really fricking bad. I don't think any young guy with hair really understands how bad it is until it actually happens.
Early 30's bald guy here. I shave it and its seriously not that bad
I see bald guys and they are ok. I still have hair but I'd rather stay with a buzzcut, I dont like the back of my head when it is not shaven, the hair give it a stupid shape
I went bald at 24. You are like a little baby to me, crying about what happened to you.
I went totally bald at 22 and only AFTER that lost my virginity, fricked multiple women and got my current gf, as well as entered grad school, got my own place, and solo traveled. pretty much every really good thing in my life has happened AFTER I went bald - in fact I get more female attention after shaving it than before
Congrants.
It's like $10k for a transplant. Fricking everybody is getting it now. I found out yesterday that even Floyd Mayweather and Conor McGregor got it done right after they retired
yeah basically everybody is trooned up on fin and getting transplants. all the guys at my work have miraculously gained hair at some random point.
Dude, going down the rabbit hole and seeing all the famous people who stealthily got a transplant done is fricking insane. Like who the frick knew Gordon Ramsay had a transplant? Or Jürgen Klopp? Or George Clooney? It just goes on and on
george clooney getting a hair transplant was what sealed it for me. you just need hair.
Matthew McConaughey was the one that fricked with my head the most. He went from looking like a sleazy sexual predator to being considered the sexiest man on the planet
Obv he looks better on the right but come on left is getting pussy
not consensually though
This prick refuses to admit he got a hair transplant and/or is on fin. He claims this bullshit Regenix crap grew his hair back, he's such a goddamn liar.
Literally every actor except Jude Law is on fin
Idk about all of them. Some people are just gifted. Someone like Johnny Depp probably is on fin based on his forehead size but maybe guys like Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt aren't. They've never shown any signs of hair loss in their entire career and they still have Norwood 0.5 hairlines.
They start when they're young. Ashton Kutcher started when he was 18 or 19 and only came off temporarily later in life to have his kids.
I mean it's an easy conversation for their agent, "take this pill and you'll look the same and get more consistent work", especially if you're a regular on a TV show.
Ashton Kutcher had noticeable recession when he was younger though (that's why he'd tend to have his temples hidden). Cruise and Pitt had none. You could argue that they were diffuse thinners but there was no point in their careers where their hair looked thin. Not a single picture of them exists showing signs of hair loss. I'm sure plenty of Hollywood male celebs are on finasteride, basically any older ones past NW1, but Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise seemed to have gotten very fricking lucky.
Ashton Kutcher has talked about going on Dutasteride. Guy probably has zero dht left in his system. TBF tho he probably would have merked his career if he went bald.
Interview I saw he mentioned fin, not dut.
oh my bad, he said avodart which is dutasteride
i wonder if he's started it again since then
easy to accept hair loss at the early stages
then shtf lmao
I'm 33, bald and have a hot, skinny 24 yo gf. We met IRL though. It's over if you're just using apps though.
yeah the sheer difference between real life and internet is insane
I mean it's doable for sure, you're just hard filtered by a LOT of women (more so the younger you go) right out the gate
>you're just hard filtered by a LOT of women
Could be for the best tbh
How dare those women have standards when it comes to looks, amirite?
Hope she sees this
it isnt. this is a huge cope. there are a ton of the best women who would be turned off by balding. you just lose a lot of access to women and gain nothing.
>they're shallow
not any more than the way literally everyone is. bald men are uglier.
On the upside, those coping baldcels take themselves out of the dating market and make place for people who got a transplant and/or went on a 5ari.
>and/or
It's not or, just and
you shouldn’t take advice from ugly people who don’t get pussy with hair anyway
Dont worry, I wont be taking any advice from you
Fortunately for you I consider myself woke, so I feel a little bit sorry for the mentally challenged.
Baldness will objectively decrease your attractiveness.
Sure, everyone looks better with hair than bald, but it doesn't affect a person who is above average in appearance as negatively as it does an average / below man.
Rule of thumb is that severe balding shaves off 2 points on the 10-scale. If you're a 9 it's not really that bad, but if you're a 6 or below you are fricked
Bro you are over emphasizing it. Like I said, in my other comment, my best friend is incredibly good looking and has a great personality, but started balding in his 20s. He always got tons of good pussy and it didn't stop him one bit once it started happening.
The problem is ugly guys and guys with no personality lean on shit like lifting and hair too much. If you go bald and can't get women its because you are ugly and have a bad personality that can't overcome it. Most women aren't going to choose an ugly guy with hair over a good looking guy who is balding.
Now that isn't to say there isn't insane women with insane standards, but those are female incels and you are never going to have a good relationship with them in any case..
the average male suffers a massive hit to his desierability if he goes bald
your 9/10 became a 7.5/10
I agree with this if you are completely ugly and have nothing going on personalitywise.
I'm not saying they shouldn't improve themselves, but I am saying they should lean on it too hard because it alone isn't going to get you pussy. They need to work on themselves in other areas.
Also get off garbage like tinder and whatever subreddit is making you think that.
are you a thirdie? in america balding kills
In Germany it's the same yet finasteride is even more unknown here. So many bald dudes.
i live in a third world country and it's same here, looked down upon, especially if you're young.
thirdworlder here I live in France and balding also sucks here
>The problem is ugly guys and guys with no personality lean on shit like lifting and hair too much. If you go bald and can't get women its because you are ugly and have a bad personality that can't overcome it.
Not everyone can be uberchad enough to overcome hairloss. For most men it fricks them hard. Why should they not do something to objectively improve their chances (i.e. lift and take hairloss meds)?
>Now that isn't to say there isn't insane women with insane standards
Strong majority of women want someone with hair, want someone taller than them (preferably >6') ...
well, not everybody gets what they want. not enough 6 ft+ tall head full of hair Chads in this world
Yeah but that's fine, literally just playing the hand I'm dealt. But if I can find a beautiful woman I love enough to marry as a balding manlet then there's no excuse for most people on IST.
Had my chance to get on fin, didn't. Could have gotten a transplant, but not going to. For me I would rather be bald than permanently frick with my endocrine system and deal with the side effects.
Honestly if you weren't already good looking it didn't matter beforehand and it won't matter now. My best friend is really good looking and balded young and he fricking slays quality puss.
You’re describing me to a T. There are always outliers and exceptions, but nobody wants to hear it if it isn’t their reality.
>(more so the younger you go) right out the gate
Dunno, 14 years olds are hitting on me, but I'm guessing it's some kind of daddy issues. Or maybe they love their daddy very much and want a replacement.
22yo with daddy issues was hitting on me the other day
I'm 30 and met my wife on an app and I'm bald. But have good head shape so being bald looks 'normal' for me.
Going bald will unironically ruin your dating perspecitves unless you were a 9/10 beforehand and have a good head form.
I'm black so I really don't care.
yeah black people lose the least from balding. blacks have ugly hair to start with and most shave it anyways.
Yeah, you guys have like 3 haircuts and bicced is one of the of the ones that look great on most of you.
I think maybe the cultural norm of blacks shaving their heads makes the look look better on blacks, and theoretically other races could replicate the phenomenom and probably have in the past at some point.
skinheads, neo nazis, and cancer patients ruined it for white people
They really did. After world war 2 there was definitely a zeitgeist in american children of hating nazis, and that included rejecting their high maintenance haircuts and well fitted clothing leading to the hippie movement of the boomers I think.
That's why today, IST White guys are looked down upon and the bullshit "fitness gurus and gym rats are linked to being right wing". They want you unhealthy and fat.
I got topical fin 0.3% but apparently that’s too much, can I use 2 sprays a day instead of the recommended 4?
Well it depends on how bad your hairloss is or how much you want to improve your hairline/density/crown.
It’s bad, but I was more thinking about sides
Thing is, you never know if you get sides (since they are rare) nor what kind of sides. And you always gotta weigh that against the sides of being bald (if your skull looks like an egg or like Dialga you're fricked and won't even need your dick anymore).
I had medium/long Dicaprio style hair until I was 20. Then I started just buzzcutting and everyone thought I was crazy or a skinhead but it was comfortable and I didn't even need shampoo. Lived like that for nearly a decade.
Last year decided to go back to my younger self and I gotta say, people (especially females) are wayyy nicer and friendlier to me. However, they definitely find me less intimidating which is what I was originally going for I guess.
I think I'll stay with the hair
baldie here, the real type of bald, not just balding
people in real life are more intimidated, and talk to you with respect, especially men
I have no problem pulling b***hes but I agree, internet for me is over unless I know the person, I remember clearly having random bawds adding me from nowhere back during facebook days
I have money I could pay for a hair transplant but I have my whole fricking scalp without hair, I dont know if it is even possible
but definetely, the mind is the biggest gains goblin, during the balding phase I was a depressed loser I couldnt even pull a fat b***h, now that I'm clearly in peace with how I look I can frick again, but way less than in my early 20s that's for sure
>but I have my whole fricking scalp without hair, I dont know if it is even possible
The tech is advancing and they can take beard hairs from your neck now to fill in on your head. A couple of years back the Japs figured out a way to clone hair follicles, so they only need 1 sample from you and then they can clone endless hair follicles to put on your head. Your best bet is probably to try to get that once it's commercialized in Japan. It's probably going to be expensive as frick for the first few years though because there are so many rich baldies who have been waiting for this sort of thing and there will be a very limited amount of clinics who have that tech available
All the futuristic treatments will only be available when we are all over 50. Until then, fin/dut+minox(+fluridil/stemoxydine/alfatradiol) are your best bet.
People being more intimidated totally depends on the rest of your face. In my earlier 20s it was def more intimidating, but I have too much of a 'kind' resting facial expression these days as the smile lines have set in.
>being bald in your early 30s
threadly reminder that women don't have arbitrary looks scales for men and noone gives a shit except for other balding men
demoralizing shill manlets itt should quite literally have sex and touch grass
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sage grows in all fields
Top cope
you are 5'10, norwood 2 (or norwood 2.5 before showering and styling your hair a bit), also a notorious jestermaxxer who needs to entertain women because you don't have a "glowing presence" and charisma that taller, fit men with broad frames have. you also studied a STEM field, and decided to grind your way into the upper middle class as a software engineer. yet still you don't seem to have a "presence" with women or ther people, your interactions seem forced or with some ulterior motive...girls don't like you sexually, they just don't see you that way.
meanwhile, natural-chads, just cruise through life, making friends with almost everyone. women gravitate towards them as well. they're not as rich as you, or hardworking, or as intelligent (actually they are more intelligent, because they're smart enough to not let their ego get to them). they are way more intuitive and funny, they can adapt to different social demographics, they have nerd friends but also normie friends, for this reason they are attractive to women from all demographics and subcultures, because they feel empathy with everyone. they don't believe in working your ass to the ground, any of that self-improvement shit, they just accept themselves and others accept them. you will never be like them, not because there's something you're not doing, but because of something you ARE, which is - the jestermaxxed careermaxxing coper.
lol, i'm actually surprised you didn't get one thing right about me apart from rich and even that is a stretch. seems like you're projecting
The prettiest girl I ever got with was when I had a short buzz and medium beard. It really depends on a combination of factors.
I am bald in my twenties
You've got a good head shape. Do you still have eyebrows? Hard to tell here. If you don't have alopecia I'd recommend not being scared of having a tiny amount of head stubble come through, even if you're worried about it showing your hairline. It's the difference between looking like a cancer patient and not.
t. speaking from experience
I'm 22 and losing my pretty fast in the front? Got any hair style or mindset tips to deal?
My hair started thinning and receding at breakneck speed when I was like 17. Id get my haircut at least once a month to keep it looking decent. Pretty short on the top and shorter on the sides. Dont dont like I did tho and hold on to nothing. I could have started shaving my head years before I did, and it looks way better than what I have.
Honestly im lucky it kind of suites me otherwise I would have contemplated doing a hair loss protocol. Though you have to think long and hard about the cost/ benefit analysis with money and potential side effects. My advice it to buzz your hair off no guard and see if the bald look suites you before youre too far gone then make the decision.
As for mindset I cant really preach here and pretend like ive got it all figured out. Ive delt with my share of insecurity and still do, though its not as bad.
I started working on very young so luckily ive always had my body to fall back on. I advise you always stay in shape like your life and sex life depend on it, cause they do. Also ive always had fairly mascualine interests, worked trades, love the outdoors, somewhat charismatic.. pretty much you have to diversify what makes you attractive. Were lucky as men that our value is based off a lot more than our looks. Im starting to ramble though.
Thanks anon :3 I do actually have eyebrows they are just kind of light and the lighting in the photo makes them look nonexistant.
My stack costs me around 50€ a month which is pretty affordable and doesn't cause any sides.
I'd rather take 1-2 pills a day than shave every other day tbh.
Thats not a trivial amount depending how much you make, but it could be well worth it. The sides, im on the fence about but i feel like ive read so much shit here that id placebo myself into getting them. And yeah, shaving does fricking suck I wont lie.
Also to add, I had a couple role models I knew personally that were bald so also helped me not care as much.
Also, still managed to have a very fulfilling love life despite it all.
And mushrooms.
>I had a couple role models I knew personally that were bald so also helped me not care as much.
Jason Statham, The Rock and Vin Diesel?
Kek. No i dont look up to Hollywood celebs.
irl everyday heroes
Hello, Seth
Pulling it off.
hope you get your smoll petite long legged gf anon
You're the perfect candidate for an Agent 47 cosplay at formal events. I kneel.
I go to a large public university and there's a guy I sometimes see around campus. He looks like he's in his early twenties and is completely bald like you. He never wears a hat, and literally looks like One Punch Man. He looks handsome as frick no homo. He embraces it, and I'm sure he gets pussy. You're pulling it off too fren.
Being bald is like a force multiplier for your body. If you are a fat greasy bald bastard, you'll be very ugly and very undesirable, but if you're lean, well-groomed, and bald, you would be very handsome.
>Being bald is like a force multiplier for your body
Cope. Any man will look better with a full head of hair than bald. Some men don't lose all their attractiveness but there is never a case where being bald makes you more attractive.
If you have a really good skull shape, I would go fully shaved even if you don't have hair loss. Of course, if you're a fat slob, please keep the hair and look like Anthony from Linus. If this fat frick was fully bald, would he look better or worse with his current body?
>If this fat frick was fully bald, would he look better or worse with his current body?
Definitely worse but even his current hair is pretty thin. Assuming he had a perfect NW1 the guy would look a bit better.
How much hair loss are you willing to take before you shave it off? Sometimes, you just need to let go.
NW2-5 can be recovered using medication and maybe a hair transplant depending on the severity. NW6+ you should shave it off because at that point hair can't be recovered anymore unless you're a hyper responder to medication.
i don’t see why you all make it a big deal. you work with what you have. if you’re still attracting women and getting laid, there’s no sense in complaining about the what ifs
It's not ideal, but it's really not a big deal unless you're a neurotic weirdo about it.
t. early 30s boomer with many bald friends
how much is a good transplant? I'm like NW3ish and want to go to NW2
Top notch for like 3000 grafts? $30k in US/EU. $10k in Turkey.
But that's the clinics moviestars and pro athletes go to. You can get it cheaper, but the quality goes down alongside the price
i have a lot of money saved up, i definitely will pay more for less risk of it going to shit
i remember the problem was the american guys had year+ long waiting lists (and this was pre-corona like 10 years ago when i was looking into it, basically kept the same hairline since then)
are the turks really good enough?
Check out the IAHRS website. Anyone on their members list is top notch. If you find a clinic where the main surgeon isn't a member there, you are playing russian roulette with your head.
Hair transplants has become a huge cash cow so a lot of cosmetic surgeons who have no expertise have started doing it, and the results are often fricking terrible
And yes, the turks who are members of IAHRS are just as good as the US/EU surgeons
thanks anons
i think it was hairlosshelp i used to read way back then
are there any trustworthy forums these days about it?
Reddit's tressless is 30% good advice 70% absolute trash. Other than that, there's haircafe and More Plates More Dates on youtube.
Went bald at 30, started clippering it down, went more bald, then started shaving it...
It looks fine. I'd rather have hair but none of the solutions people on the internet put their faith in actually work, or they have side effects like ED.
At some point you have to stop fighting your genetics and just realize that baldness you embrace exudes more confidence than trying to pretend like you are 20 for the rest of your life.
how many grafts in total does the average person have? the only issue i thought about with transplant is you're kind of committed to it
Afaik 3-7k grafts and depending on the hair clinic quality, whether you are on finasteride or not etc. you might lose up to half that with post-transplant shock loss.
Imo NW2-4 are good candidates for hair transplants, beyond that you need to get on a serious stack and find a good quality hair clinic.
yeah i also haven't really lost any since i went on fin 10 years ago so i'm not very worried about it
didn't know about post-transplant shock though that's annoying
Post transplant shock and shedding is normal. It grows back, you don't "lose" the transplanted hair. It'll take about a year to see the full results.
do you guys let your hair for stubble or go for a clean shaved look
I prefer the clean shaven look except during winter.
>spreading disinformation because you don't want other anons to benefit from a transplant
We all know that transplants can range from JUST to perfect NW0 recovery.
See
That's the easiest way to avoid getting JUSTed. With transplants you get what you pay for
I don't know I'm a femanon but I always liked baldgays, even though my dad has a full head of hair in his 60s and I have really thick hair, like mane super volumous, almost afro-like.
I think it's bc I used to crush really hard on my maternal uncle (kek uncle-anons stay winning) who was this really successful, positive male figure in my life and he used to have the crown balding thing.
Anyways also I suspect it's because I'm a twin (with a brother) and got a lot of test in the womb so I've always been high test and now that I'm enhanced by var my tastes have only become increased for hyper-masculine men, and balding to me represents hyper-masculinity. I also like roided guys so I guess it's reinforced that most end up balding.
But I guess I could offset it with my hair genetics for offspring.
>I also like roided guys
nattykeks keep losing
Oh also...the weirdest thing is that I actually gained a lot of baby hair since I started taking var. I used to be afraid that I would lose my hairline but it's the inverse that happened, now I have even more little baby hairs, I'm talking at my temples I gained maybe 0.5cm on the sides which is kinda nice because I always had a high IQ brain dome, I do have a big head but my hair volume sort of offsets it.
But yeah I used to believe roids strictly made you lose hair but for me it's the contrary...I guess it depends if you got the growth or loss gene. I keep winning I guess.
>and balding to me represents hyper-masculinity
Balding has nothing to do with testosterone. You can be low-T and still lose your hair because you're either hyper-sensitive to DHT or have may too many 5AR enzymes floating around which cause significantly higher DHT production even on the little testosterone you have.
Thanks for the explanation anon. I just mean visually it represents masculinity because mostly men are bald. It's just a visual cue for me that sort of exacerbates masculinity in a guy. I just think of him as more manly if he is bald? It's just how my body reacts to seeing him. I don't know, again it could be exposure to my bald uncle. I just like it. Also not saying I like all bald gays, I'm saying on a guy who is my type I view it as a positive trait, not a negative.
kek how’d you manage to misunderstand that. there are certain physical traits we as a society have associated as being masculine or feminine. short hair = masculine, long hair = feminine. man with long hair = gay, woman with short hair = dyke. it is what it is
You got mind fricked by American culture and you’re proud of it, go look back at older cultures, things aren’t as black and white as that. eat your daily burger ration.
kek stay living in the past grandpa. that’s the modern world’s way of thinking. deal with it
Why is this guy so angry
you’d be angry too if you lived in a third world shit hole and balding was still a death sentence
you should only really buzz your head if you're swole or extremely lean and look otherwise young and fit. if you're a skinny fat moon face no one likes you.
34 yo bald here. It all comes down to who you really are and the combinations with some other physical features. I'm a no bullshit, straightforward kind of guy and always have been. But being bald stressed those points. Also, I'm 6 ft.
A friend of mine is really sweet, "cute" and 5' 8". No women look at him. I guess it has to make sense with the whole thing.
are you trying to turn a hairlet thread into a manlet thread?
I saw right through you anon, don't deny it
I just let it go horseshoe around 30 after years of cope shaving (36 now)
people call me sir now so that's neat
I'm balding and grow it out sorta long. I sometimes shave it too. I think the horseshoe look is the bald equivalent of a bowl cut and would rather shave or grow it out.
I tend to let my horseshoe grow out a bit longer than I probably should
I think the buzzed horseshoe can even look nice but the bowl cut length makes almost every hairstyle look bad. Bald guys just don't bother trying anymore. There used to be haircuts specifically for balding dudes in the past. I kinda like that punk skullet look tbh.
depends on your head shape, guys like costanza or steve ballmer can easily rock the horseshoe look
I'm bald and have a young gf I met online. I just target women with low self-esteem, so I can basically date any woman.
is anything a more high maintenance hairstyle than those dumb lineup haircuts people get multiple times a month?
>is it really that bad?
If you aren't currently or don't care about ever fricking hot 18-22yo girls (the only girls that matter) again then yeah it is.
Balding is a death sentence at any age but especially for getting young girls. Even 40 year old single women meme on bald men.
Stop giving a frick about what women think, they legit think that only like 1in 10 guys go bald before 40 when it's actually 4 in 10. Women have no idea what the actual numbers are for all the shit they want in a man
>Stop giving a frick about what women think
I would except that what they think influences whether I get to pass on my genes or not so unfortunately it is going to have to be a part of my considerations whether I like it or not.
The things that women say are requirements are actually just a wishlist. Women have legit no clue how few men are over 6 foot tall for example. Stop stressing out about what they think, they all change their tune when they realize that they are looking for the literal perfect demigod of man.
>they all change their tune when they realize that they are looking for the literal perfect demigod of man
lmao yeah, when they're fricking 35 maybe. Maybe. If you want an actual prime girl you need to just be that man.
lmao maybe you're the one with impossible standards
>being under 35 years of age is impossible standards
Roastoid detected.
No, if you have trouble pulling and you look halfway decent, balding or not, you have impossible standards
The frick are you even referring to anymore lol, who said anything about difficulty pulling?
>female impossible standards
>literally an imaginary male who doesn't exist
>male impossible standards
>that cute girl who actually exists he wants to talk to
Truly a fascinating species.
35 here. I started thinning pretty good at 32. In 3 years, I've had to start shaving my head. Yeah it's a kick in the balls, but I actually look good with a thick stubble and shaved head. My Marine cousin told me years ago that when a Man goes bald you just have to own it.
>My Marine cousin told me years ago that when a Man goes bald you just have to own it.
Or you get treatment for it. Why listen to some moron in the gay ass marines?
I have heard that baldness being more common with men than women lends itself to a hyper masculine look. I don’t know how women feel about that but given the popularity of Clint Eastwood who was super Norwood I think probably there’s at least a niche for it.
Another odd way to look at it is some women might be insecure and like having a guy who has a visible flaw. Fricked up but you know whatever gets the panties wet . I also read that Jason stathem was really popular with a group of women bc he has kind of a thuggish look to him. Maybe bic the dome and take it for a test drive?
>given the popularity of Clint Eastwood
>given the popularity of [rich and famous hollywood actor icon]
This is what these threads always devolve into.
>bro just be yourself women love bald guys just look at Jason Statham and the Rock
>given the popularity of an actor from the 1960s
these anons are delusional lmao
This is a IST wide problem.
They really think they can emulate behaviours of attractive, rich or successful guys and women will like them too.
And it doesn't work that way.
Women don't like videogames, they like rich, famous youtubers who make videogames almost seem cool by association.
They don't like long hair on men, they like a few superhero actors who grew it out for the role.
Anons get caught up emulating the trappings without understanding the reason for the attraction.
>women will think I'm a confident chad who just dares to be himself because I play ps vita in public and i totally own it
>I totally act like the goose in that one movie where he plays a quiet, sad boy, chicks will love it
>I grew my hair long, I get mistaken for that aquamarine roider all the time
Another thought. Have you ever seen a gal with a dude rocking a nasty skullet? Bc I have. Dude looked frickin sick or something and she was smoking. Maybe he was her drug dealer or pimp I don’t know but I guess just trust that if you take care of yourself you’re in someone’s market
I take a bic to my head about twice a week and have a buzzer that I use sometimes which basically gives the 2 day look which is ideal, but sometimes the fresh shave feels nice.
Honestly I get the same attention from women as when I had hair. You may not pull 19-20 year olds as easily. But early-mid 20s and up its basically the same shit. And if you're 30+ trying to frick 18-19 year olds anyway you should probably grow the frick up anyway.
Personally I just felt a sense of ease and comfort when I realized I looked good with a shaved head, beard or no beard. It gave me more confidence than what I had when I was worrying about my receded hairline.
my future. Question is, when/how far is it going to recede.
Guess we will find out in a decade
it just started happening so fast, I wanted to believe it was just stress or something but nope the top of my head is now gone
>36
>hair mogging this thread
online predator who lurks in teenager discord groups mode
Better to look bald than balding
>before being bald
0 female attention
>after being bald
0 female attention
not having to think about haircuts is nice i guess
Difference being, you could theoretically work on your other attributes and get girls as long as you have hair. But when you're bald, self-improvement doesn't help anymore.
honestly how bad bros?
how old are u ?
30
not bad at all for 30, you look like u still have hairs around the hairline so maybe work on it a bit
NW2.5 get on treatment asap.
How about you post your hair so we can actually judge what NW you are at?
dw i've been on fin for like 3 years. will eventually get around to getting a transplant in mexico
I fricking hate hairlets because they are whining about their hair all the time like a bunch of hormonal women
The two sexiest guys I know both shave their heads
I'm like Norwood 1 at 27 should I take finasteride?
just heard from the surgeon
$5k for transplant to fix temples and lower hairline
Please anon.
SAUCE.
It's from the film High Life. Not a great film honestly, that scene added nothing to it. Could've been an interesting sci-fi flick but the director put too much focus on the cinematography.
that doesn't look like a film though.
it's extremely hot nonetheless
sauce anyone?
is she doing dips or sopmething? impressive traps
do you think Lynch takes fin or is he just blessed
Likely in the blessed category along with Pitt and Cruise imo.
my hunch tells me he's blessed, he had normal recession as someone who only gets some recession or loss when really old. why would he take fin at that point ? i know some people like that irl
ITT: Americans
Come to the Balkans and every guy under 50 has a shaved head or buzzcut even if they aren't bald.
They still get laid/have GFs fine
are balkan people white? asking for my nephew
I assume you're Amerimutt since you don't know this so definitely whiter than you will ever be.
Albanians and Bosnians, along with any other Muslim majority country of the Balkans is definitely not white
why do you lie on the internet?
You will never be white Ahmed
However, if you live in those countries and are blue eyes with light hair and Christian, you are white. No brown eyed or brown hair coping can you save you, you Muslim rapist
You know you live in a gynocentric shithole when you literally troon yourself out to meet women's nonsensical standards when being bald + hairy was a sign of masculinity in most of history.
Enjoy your limp dick from no DHT finasteride trannies. Might as well start taking estrogens too since women like pretty feminine boys.
>when you literally troon yourself out
Finasteride only inhibits DHT, not testosterone (in fact, it slightly increases testosterone). DHT in adult men doesn't play any role because it only acts locally where it is produced, so in the skin, the prostate and in hair follicles.
>DHT in adult men doesn't play any role
imagine actually believing this
Did you know how finasteride was first developed? There was a family somewhere in Shitholistan Africa who had a complete lack of 5AR2 (i.e. the enzyme finasteride inhibits) from birth and still grew up perfectly fine once puberty hit them. Testosterone is king, DHT is trash.
Kevin pls. You failed to mention those "men" ended up with micropenises.
They didn't. Genitalia growth happens from testosterone.
Yes they did. Penis has DHT receptors in it during puberty.
Afaik in the original study back in 70s the boys didn't have abnormal penile development. But there has been another documented case in Japan where 5AR2 deficient boys did grow up with micropenises.
That said, once you're an adult male even applying topical DHT doesn't lead to changes in penis size according to the studies.
>no proof posted of anything
Did you know how fin was created?
The dark lord deep beneath the earth crust, twisted and toiled upon the once white man until he was blackened into a perfect psyop machine.
Thus the trannies were born.
Dont' ask for source
Anti-fin posters are anti-white.
>Anti-fin posters are anti-white.
>whites need to take troony drugs, if you don't condone this you are anti-white
>whites need to take troony drugs
Finasteride is not a troony drug though since it doesn't inhibit testosterone nor does it lead to feminizing effects.
>if you don't condone this you are anti-white
Being bald leads to inceldom.
>Finasteride is not a troony drug
It absolutely is a troony drug.
DHT is 20 more potent androgen than test
>Being bald leads to inceldom.
It doesn't moron. Stop pushing this shit most shills do of
>buy our product or nobody will love or accept you
this has been used countless times through out histroy to rope women and even men into buying shit.
Deodorant used to be a literal meme before this was used into making women think nobody will love them unless they use deo, and that men will never get a job unless they use deo.
Stop buying into israeli tricks, stop perpetuating israeli tricks.
u dont use deodorant anon? lol u stinky bald frick
>u dont use deodorant anon
No, I don't. It's entirely a israeli product.
There is no need for the product, the "need" is entirely made up. They literally made up a problem and are selling you a solution, that makes you more stinky and sick.
k lol
smelly ppl dunno they smell btw
u do u tho
>smelly ppl dunno they smell btw
How do you know deodorant works then?
how to know if you smell
t. no deodorant no showers and clean myself biweekly with a face cloth
>how to know if you smell
because israelites told him to, and that they just so happen to have a product that can fix it
>but I don't smell
thats just what all the smelly would say, you cannot trust your own senses, trust me instead goy
don't mix up deodorant and antiperspirant tbh
people do smell of natural phermones which is normal if we lived in rural communities where you get used to seeing familiar people with familiar smells but in populated areas it is overwhelming and unpleasant
>don't mix up deodorant and antiperspirant tbh
No I'm not, both are shit.
>people do smell of natural phermones which is normal if we lived in rural communities where you get used to seeing familiar people with familiar smells but in populated areas it is overwhelming and unpleasant
Take a shower then moron. You don't even have to use soap or shampoo, just rise yourself with water regularly.
water isn't enough for hairy guys like me. I use basic unscented charcoal soap, water also can't help if the sweat has already dried off on your skin
>It absolutely is a troony drug.
Nope
>DHT is 20 more potent androgen than test
8x as much but since it only acts locally where it is produced, it's worthless.
>It doesn't moron. Stop pushing this shit most shills do of
Baldcel cope
>his has been used countless times through out histroy to rope women and even men into buying shit.
But it's true. In the current world women have the advantage when it comes to dating.
>I know you are having sex, but you are an incel now because you are balding, don't ask question accept my israeli logic
frick off troony
I don't actually believe you are having (active) sex.
Yeah but look at [wealthy actor with perfect facial proportions] who is bald but still gets laid.
>I don't actually believe you are having (active) sex.
Of course you do, then again you believe a lot of things that have no bearing on reality, such as you being a woman.
JUST
lift weights.
its funny that u think u look good bro. are you also the stinky dude that doesn't even use soap? lmao
>its funny that u think u look good bro
What did I tell you about not consuming/pushing israeli psyops?
Just because some moron on the internet tells me his delusions doesn't change reality.
>are you also the stinky dude that doesn't even use soap?
Haven't used shampoo in over 3 years, water works just fine.
>delusions based of literally nothing
Your words can't change reality moron.
>Your words can't change reality moron.
your neck size can, post body or shut the frick up
>your neck size can
>I can estimate an entire body based on a neck size from a portrait
Uhuh, next you will tell me you can figure out my height, weight, and muscularity from it as well. You are fricking embarrassing yourself with delusions nobody is buying.
>post body or shut the frick up
And yet you don't post your own body, curious, is it not? Almost as if you are a homosexual shill here and don't actually lift or want to discuss fitness on IST
What do you think sweat is made out of? What do you think causes body odor, are you aware of the mechanics?
are not fooling anyone neckpencil homosexual
post body homosexual
hey luke is a nice guy
you literally sweat pheromones. since most clothes we wear dont let our body wick off moisture it dries on our skin and clothes which causes body odor.
>you literally sweat pheromones
Incorrect. Sweat by itself is odorless. But sweat from certain regions in the body can release not just water, but also proteins and fats in different concentrations. Which are then broken down by bacteria, which produce the smell.
Now depending on what causes the sweat, be it to cool down, stress, happiness etc. The smells are different.
It's also affected hugely by your health, diet, exercise etc etc.
End result, the smell you produce can be a marker for your health. With more sick people who are stressed smelling worse.
While people who are healthy and happy smelling better. For instnace
>According to 2015 research, you can produce a certain odor that indicates happiness. This scent is then detectable by others, stimulating a feeling of happiness in them as well.
So it's a rather complicated system and using anti antiperspirants or deo, or shitty soap, can actually create a bad micro biome there, and cause worse smell long term.
Think of it like nuking your gut biome with antibiotics.
So it's possible to smell like "nothing", smell worse, or smell good, depending on a variety of factors.
>lift weights.
dumb dyel, you should do it too, you look small as frick aswell as looking like a söycuck
iron your shirt
I'm a man, thanks for confirming that.
Man I've seen this homosexual in hair loss threads before. The definition of cope.
the savior we need to drive out all these trannies
You mean the coping baldcel who cries himself to sleep and doesn't leave his mom's basement anymore?
And how does he know of my sex life? Why from his mom of course!
>8x as much but since it only acts locally where it is produced, it's worthless.
Eh, DHT is in the blood stream as well. When they did those fin studies they measured DHT both in the scalp and the blood. If DHT was entirely worthless you wouldn't get a percentage of people getting real side effects from taking 5AR2 inhibitors. Most do indeed tolerate the drug just fine though... at least in the short-medium run. Developments on the drug ten to twenty years from now will be interesting to see.
>Eh, DHT is in the blood stream as well.
But only in small amounts where it absolutely gets dominated by testosterone.
>If DHT was entirely worthless you wouldn't get a percentage of people getting real side effects from taking 5AR2 inhibitors.
Inhibiting DHT leads to both higher testosterone and higher estrogen. The latter can explain all related side effects since taking actual estradiol leads to the same kinds of side effects but at much higher rates.
>Developments on the drug ten to twenty years from now will be interesting to see.
Fin isn't something new. It's been around since the 1990s.
>Fin isn't something new. It's been around since the 1990s.
Yeah but it hasn't had widespread adoption for hair loss until only recently. In the beginning it was for enlarged prostate which is something old people experience so longer term side effects on them would be less pronounced and they'd probably blame old age. Only now in today's ultra image obsessed society have tens of millions of men in their early twenties mass adopted finasteride, so we'll see what this yields in another ten/twenty years and beyond.
ChatGPT says DHT is needed to maintain the secondary sexual characteristics after puberty btw.
>Yeah but it hasn't had widespread adoption for hair loss until only recently.
It was released for hairloss around the same time and saw widespread adoption by the early 2000s. There's been plenty of follow up studies and so far the data looks really good.
>ChatGPT says DHT is needed to maintain the secondary sexual characteristics after puberty btw.
ChatGPT isn't an all knowing entity. It uses existing data regardless of the validity of said data. You could ask it for sources for said claim and it'll probably spew out garbage.
>8x as much but since it only acts locally where it is produced, it's worthless.
Nope
Cope harder, DHT simp. There's just not significant enough DHT levels in the blood to seriously affect you.
>There's just not significant enough DHT levels in the blood to seriously affect you
Imagine being this moronic
Imagine being a baldcel moron simping for the trash hormone turning him into an unlovable boomer-looking creature.
>the trash hormone
I can deduce what 70iq YouTubers you get your information from
Kevin: cites strong scientific human research
(you): are a baldcel loser who doesn't have any arguments other than petty insults
this is true, however alot of bitter bald dudes would disagree, buecause they also want you to be bitter and bald. so they want to scare people away from using finasteride.
>the shill selling you a product is telling you not to fall for people telling you not to buy product
horrible, I hope you miss your monthly quota.
I believe that it comes down to sunk-cost fallacy. They already lost their hair and youth, therefore it can't all just have been for nothing.
>they have hair
>you don't know what it's like to be bald, you are trying to sabotage anons, buy product
>you dont have hair
>you are just jelous that others might have hair and you don't. you are sabotaging other anons, buy product
Hmmm interesting, is there any scenario, where one shouldnt buy product
>well I guess if you want to be ALONE, and never loved, and everybody will HATE YOU and everybody will think you are UGLY AND CREEPY I mean I guess if you want all those NEGATIVE THINGS, then you shouldn't buy my product
Wow, sounds like you really have my best interests at heart, seems it really is in my, and not your best interest for me to get crippling mental illness and fix it by buying your product.
Thank you merchant, you are my greatest ally.
Is there any scenario where you aren't coping in hair loss threads? Finasteride costs me $1.50 for a two month supply lol. It's a generic drug at this point available for cheap, who tf is anyone "shilling" for here? You do you tho baldie locks.
>Finasteride costs me $1.50 for a two month supply lol
0.75$ per month, 9$ per 450$ per 50 years.
times roughly 3.5billion
thats 1575 BILLION dollars left on the table gentlemen.
Now if we could only tap into that market and sell them troony drugs, I mean fin, the profits would be good indeed.
>but how do we do that, men have lived just fine for hundred of thousands of years up until now, how are we dgoing ot convince them that something that was made couple of decades ago isn't just beneficial, but VITAL to their continued existence?
Simple, we psyop them, stir up insecurities, tell them that unless they buy, they will face horrible consequences, and then tell them that the price for keeping away these horrible things is just a modest life time subscription.
>what about the side effects
Oh please, we convinced them to vaxx themselves, they can certainly convince them to ignore the sides of this.
Losing hair is caused by a poor diet. You can grow it back by taking fenugreek thyme and black cumin seed oil
If that was the case, the share of bald men and women would be roughly equal which we know isn't the case.
I dont want to be bald anymore but i dont want to take a fin, just a trasplant, its is posible? How much money i need? Im from Spain, 35 yo Pic rel ty
with that much loss a transplant will look like shit
You really think i have much loss?
yeah dude, it will still look thin as frick, shave it all down or if you want to be a chameleon get micropigmentation and rock a ''buzzcut''
Damm I Guess ill kill myself soon anyways, thanks
homie you sound like a b***h, a full head of hair wouldnt do shit if you're that much of a homosexual
With hair i feel like a super Hero, i used to wear a wig and i was unstopable, got many women Who dont notice, i remove It because it was very tiresome, no girls
nah dad its fine, just some minor recession there
lift weights you fat bastard, stop worrying about your hair.
Im working on loss Weight atm yes
>Im working on loss Weight
That's something that actually matters.
Be fit, don't be insecure.
as soon as my hair started thinning at 30 i started oral minox, biotin supplement with zinc and selenium, biotin and rosemary oil shampoo and a conditioner and my hair has genuinely never looked bettet
Only minoxidil actually works and without a 5ARi your hairloss is eventually going to catch up to you HARD.
t. been supplementing hard for years even prior to hairloss and only fin and dut helped
im also bald, still have longhair from my Metall days but it the enierity of my back head is bald, and my forehead is growing bigger by the day. wearing a bun won't cut it any longer. And it makes me borderline depressive, to add to that I can't even grow a decent beard. My dad and grandpa all are bald but at least they have s decent beard... in my darker hours I'm seriously considering to hop on testosterone just to grow a decent beard, I will loose my hair anyway... And I'm insecure as frick about it. Can't change that. It ist literally over for me.
men are are literally losing their balls fighting wars and you're here complaining about something you can't change
kys unironically
yeah no shit. I try to tell that myself, others have it worse, but that's not how this shit works. My problems will always be mine, and the biggest problems I have are always worse to me than some frick dying in a war. So frick yourself, you altruistic moron.
He's not altruistic, he's a coping baldcel trying to bring down others with him.
Bro the metal community is one of the few ones where chromeheads are welcome, just shave it all off for a couple of months, see how you feel about it and if you seriously can't handle it then get transplant and hop on fin (if you're that far gone you're gonna have to do both). Either this or ascend and become a cap-wearing slam king, the choice is yours my friend!
Don't lose hope anon. You can always get into chess and human trafficking and become an idol for millions of beta males
NW3 here. Should I keep using minoxidil or shave it off?
Been using min for more than a month and I hardly notice any changes.
Minoxidil by itself either doesn't work or only works for 1-2 years.
You (s)need to add micro(s)needling
Microneedling only makes minoxidil more effective at regrowing hair, but without fin/dut your hair follicles will still be getting decimated in the background until at some point the follcile dies and not even minox+microneedling can bring it back.
I am a 35 year old virgin with a full head of hair
me but 31 meh
You know what's worse than going bald? Having good hair and having nobody in your family and your mom's family that goes bald until their 80s, but having a medical condition that gives u bald spots instead... making you look like a freak rather than just a bald guy.
Thanks god.
I started going bald at fricking 17, by the time I was 25 I had an incredibly receded hairline. I’ve always had no trouble attracting women, and luckily I have a strong jawline and high cheekbones. But I did notice a drop off on female attention. Having a receded hairline shows a lack of vitality and especially if you’re in an urban environment you will get ragged on for it.
Women do pay attention to your hairline. I was able to still attract women and even have women give me their phone numbers, but it wasn’t the same. So, I spent 10k on a hair transplant and a coked up physician just supervised a quarter of the time. The actual nurses implanted the hairs. Since I workout, when they injected me with the pain killer my heart rate skyrocket to some crazy number of beats per minute. My whole body was shaking. Hilariously, Elton John’s Rocket Man was playing over the radio.
Anyway, the whole processes sucked. I had to sleep on an airplane pillow for a week and had fluid and blood leaking on my covers for a good month +. Oh, and the doctor tried to give me a moronely square hairline. Luckily my father came with me and made sure I got a hairline that fit my face.
Anyways, since I’ve gotten my hair transplant I’ve gotten definitely more attention from women, but a lot of women seem more intimidated. I should probably learn to smile more, I have resting b***h face. When so oost my hair I fell down to a 6.5/10 and now I’d say I’m at a strong 8.5.
So yeah, I’d definitely say it’s worth it even though I probably decreased my lifespan by 10 years dealing with the whole ordeal.
>now I’d say I’m at a strong 8.5.
I highly doubt that, gayet. LOL
>So, I spent 10k on a hair transplant and a coked up physician just supervised a quarter of the time. The actual nurses implanted the hairs. Since I workout, when they injected me with the pain killer my heart rate skyrocket to some crazy number of beats per minute. My whole body was shaking. Hilariously, Elton John’s Rocket Man was playing over the radio.
what a fricking hilarious experience tbh. sounds surrealist.
Are you on finasteride to maintain hair post transplant?
Balding since age 18, same norwood 3 hairline since then, hasn't changed til now 28. Just bad hairline genetics is my guess? But i still use minoxidil everyday just in case, and not only did my hairline get better insanely well(Seems like I'm a hyper responder) But my beard also became way thicker and it grows insanely fast. Same with my chest and belly hair. Have to trim it every week to not become chewbacca mode. My wife loves it.
Get the TheraDome
Obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VO-wRW4UbKE
i would be ok to delay the balding until i die if im dead i could bald all i want
>just shave it off and grow an epic beard bro
yeah i love the epikkk beard bro so epikk!!
>going bald
>luckily have a great fricking jawline and great skull shape (have shaved my head before to check)
>look like handsome squidward/johnny sins mashup
>have to wear glasses
can't afford lasik right now so I'll have to walk around looking like despite my lucky genetics regarding balding... Insane how much glasses can make you look like a beta cuck if you have no hair.
Just grow a beard and hit the gym bro!
If I grew a beard I would look like a söyjak since he's also has got that great headshape. Luckily I got the jaw to stay shaved but still those glasses make me look like I listen to podcasts and drink craft beer with my wife's guy friends.
It’s over for diffuse thinner bros….
I was like you 4 years ago. This is what fin and minox 90% of all these days did to me. This is true... The meds work to keep what you have but those hairs that dont have any root never come back with meds alone.
I am 35 and the only thing I felt was my prostate hurting bad during 10 days more or less, the nothing... All normal beside a strong desire for hairy muscular man using jiu-jitsu moves on a hot summer night
Barely looks different, glad the troony pills were worth it goy
It is the same stage, different angles Einstein
I only forgive you if you are a strong and hairy man
You don’t gotta tell me bro. That was 3 years ago this is now on only fin/min
Applying minox every day seems so inconvenient. I'd rather just pop a dut pill a day.
It's really weird seeing the amount of people who give a frick about hair. Just go bald homosexual jesus christ you guys are worse than women.
Looking good makes you get ahead in life. Being ugly means you're fricked. Balding makes any man uglier, why would anyone want that? Fricking npc thinking I swear.
if you think being bald makes you look bad it's because you're already fricking ugly homie. Sorry to break it to you.
Balding/balding automatically reduces your attractiveness by at least 2 points and will make you look older.
Your npc thinking prevents you from realizing there's not just ugly and handsome, there's a spectrum.
weird cope friend, hope you feel better soon.
> NPC NPC NPC
go touch grass dude
I should just go and touch grass which I can because I'm not an ugly baldcel, unlike you.
you say that but we’ll be sure to catch you posting in the next bald thread haha!
You posted this at least 5 times in the past 24 hours. How many posts that you have in this thread? LMAO
you were always ugly, that’s why you’re coping extra hard to keep your hair to prevent being exiled to inceldom
Baldcel cope. Good hair makes you more attractive regardless of how the rest of your face/body looks like. On the other side, balding can make you go from uberchad to fricking freak depending on your head shape.
ugly cope if you were remotely attractive you wouldn’t spend all day posting in bald threads
>have 95k sitting around
>could afford hair transplant
>dont get it because i dont talk to women anyway
Your hair is only going to get worse from here on out. Eventually you may not be able to get a transplant done anymore even with all the money in the world.
I'm an administrator at a machine dealership and salespeople with hair, tall and blond, skinny with a strong jaw sell 30% more than short fat bald guys. it's a fact. it's instinct.. people trust more
Damn that’s crazy because I'm an administrator at a machine dealership and salespeople with bald, tall and tan, skinny with a strong jaw sell 30% more than short fat hair guys. it's a fact. it's instinct.. people trust more
Tall men are attractive. Short men are not.
Men with hair are attractive. Bald or balding men are not.
Men with low bf and strong muscles are attractive. Fat men are not.
Well ... Bald this, bald that. The important thing is that I have hair. Good night, egg head
Why tf does finasteride increase my libido and make my erections better when the side effects are supposed to do the opposite? I know these sides don't affect everyone and fin is generally well tolerated by vast majority of people but this still has me curious.
I'm over a 100 days now in with my treatment (0.5mg daily) and right from starting the drug my libido increased. Initially it was waaaaaaay higher but now it's settled down to a new normal, not as high as in the first month of the drug, but higher than before starting.
I also just feel better in general, more confident, more energy and shit. Maybe I was just low test before starting fin the increased test benefitted me? Idk. This is great and all but I worry about the long term... maybe I'm a candidate for post-finasteride syndrome if I was low test before starting? Frick.
*Btw it's not because I'm no longer worrying about going bald. I only first realised I was thinning four months back. Way before that my erections weren't as strong as they've become since starting fin.
I think I will delay my hair transplant to try oral minox.
hope im a big responder
frick everybody in this thread for making it so hard to decide what to do
I used oral minox twice and now I have hair on my tongue and under my eyelids,
I can't post a pic because my camera broke today