USE DBS/MACHINES,
INCLINE SMITH,
DONT WASTE TIME ON DECLINE
PUSH UPS ARE A BASIC STRENGTH TEST,
BARBELL ALLOW MORE WEIGHT,
FOR POWERLIFTING,
JUST MY OPINION,
Do not do dips for the chest with parallel bars. That's why you hear about people hurting their shoulders or feeling pain in their sternum doing dips. You need angled bars to do dips for the chest. >
Use relatively slow and controlled cadence (2 seconds on the concentric, 4 seconds on the eccentric) and do not jerk during the motion. Injuries are caused by bad form, lack of control during the motion, doing a motion too fast (i.e. jerking), etc.
>Those grips will rotate the shoulders internally and put the supraspinatus in a worse position. Are you moronic?
https://i.imgur.com/Jk8mIKg.png
Do not do dips for the chest with parallel bars. That's why you hear about people hurting their shoulders or feeling pain in their sternum doing dips. You need angled bars to do dips for the chest. >
Use relatively slow and controlled cadence (2 seconds on the concentric, 4 seconds on the eccentric) and do not jerk during the motion. Injuries are caused by bad form, lack of control during the motion, doing a motion too fast (i.e. jerking), etc.
if you find this position more comfortable, your shoulder mobility is shit, what that grip does is bias internal rotation of the shoulder, which means you can't externally rotate your shoulder and load it, which is a major issue.
USE DBS/MACHINES,
INCLINE SMITH,
DONT WASTE TIME ON DECLINE
PUSH UPS ARE A BASIC STRENGTH TEST,
BARBELL ALLOW MORE WEIGHT,
FOR POWERLIFTING,
JUST MY OPINION,
https://i.imgur.com/qodoH39.jpg
THIS IS WHAT 4 YEARS OF ONLY BENCH GETS YOU,
NO DB WORK,
NO INCLINE,
A 140KG SINGLE,
NO CHEST SHAPE,
DONT BE ME
Good morning BIG DOG, my personal experience with the bench has been that it builds me good shoulders and maybe triceps (still need extensions tho) but shit chest.
For chest, I do DB floor presses with a really wide angle, pressing above the nipple line and having my head on the floor at all times.
But when I was benching, I would move my head off the bench and I would do close grip and I would touch lower on the sternum. So maybe that's why my chest was shit.
Still, the partial ROM of the DB floor press is superior for chest.
thats what I am currently after. currently doing a regular body building routine after switching from powershitting. how about 3x sets bp, 3x incline, 3x flies?
makes sense, I would recommend 6-8 reps on Bench, 8-10 on Incline and 10-12 on flies. Maybe do double progression or something on them and always keep good form and go to RPE 9 atleast.
Also feel free to replace your Bench with variations from time to time like Close Grip, Spoto or even weighted Dips when you start stalling for a bit.
I know it shouldn't happen but bench press gives me lower back pain. Dips have always been a decent alternative for me, except I don't have a good way to do them weighted.
I have kyphosis (rounded upper back) so I believe what happens is that I lack the mobility to arch the upper back and end up arching the lower back too much. I've tried stretching and posture correction, never really fixed my shit though. For some time I used to put an abmat or even a small pillow under my upper back during bench but it's not very practical.
In that case just disregard my advice, if you have a special condition my cookie cutter online advice will not help you. just stick with dips or try if other bench variations work for you such as incline.
All good, I'm sure you diagnosed it correctly though, I wasn't even sure what was happening myself but what you said makes sense. I've avoided bench for quite some time now, I think I will still at least give it a go with your advice.
most people that can't dip are accomplished bench pressers, the reason why is that the bench press destroys your shoulder mobility and then you go to dip and snap your shit.
NEITHER,
BOTH HAVE HIGH RISK OF SHOULDER INJURY
so, push ups?
USE DBS/MACHINES,
INCLINE SMITH,
DONT WASTE TIME ON DECLINE
PUSH UPS ARE A BASIC STRENGTH TEST,
BARBELL ALLOW MORE WEIGHT,
FOR POWERLIFTING,
JUST MY OPINION,
But what do you do for front delts then? Aren't those also in an akward position?
THIS IS WHAT 4 YEARS OF ONLY BENCH GETS YOU,
NO DB WORK,
NO INCLINE,
A 140KG SINGLE,
NO CHEST SHAPE,
DONT BE ME
the powershitters at it again, benching the moon, looking like a whale and getting no gains
Your chest is pretty big bro you just need to cut down see definition
Do not do dips for the chest with parallel bars. That's why you hear about people hurting their shoulders or feeling pain in their sternum doing dips. You need angled bars to do dips for the chest.
>
Use relatively slow and controlled cadence (2 seconds on the concentric, 4 seconds on the eccentric) and do not jerk during the motion. Injuries are caused by bad form, lack of control during the motion, doing a motion too fast (i.e. jerking), etc.
Those grips will rotate the shoulders internally and put the supraspinatus in a worse position. Are you moronic?
>Those grips will rotate the shoulders internally and put the supraspinatus in a worse position. Are you moronic?
The best dips are done with gymnastics rings.
if you find this position more comfortable, your shoulder mobility is shit, what that grip does is bias internal rotation of the shoulder, which means you can't externally rotate your shoulder and load it, which is a major issue.
Stop screaming you dumb Black person
why not both? is there some specific reason you want to limit your body's range of motion (and overall potential)?
ignore moronic homosexuals like this. or don't, your choice
>SUB 60KG BENCH PRESSERS
Good morning BIG DOG, my personal experience with the bench has been that it builds me good shoulders and maybe triceps (still need extensions tho) but shit chest.
For chest, I do DB floor presses with a really wide angle, pressing above the nipple line and having my head on the floor at all times.
But when I was benching, I would move my head off the bench and I would do close grip and I would touch lower on the sternum. So maybe that's why my chest was shit.
Still, the partial ROM of the DB floor press is superior for chest.
I CAN SEE THAT CHEST GET LITTLE STIMULATION,
CLOSE GRIP HIT TRICEP ALOT,
GREAT FINISHER
Yes.
Use proper form, tripgay
You aren't doing dips without doing some bench pressing.
both
why both? i don't have time
Then alternate every other chest day.
weighted dips are enough
you only need bench press if you want American style gorilla chest.
so bench press get me boobs ?
Both, but dips>bench press.
>bench press or dips
If you can do only 1 then do dips.
Today was chest and triceps for me
I did both
Till date I have never seen a woman doing bodyweight dips or pullups IRL.
what do we think of db incline press?
absolute GOAT if you are just lifting for looks
thats what I am currently after. currently doing a regular body building routine after switching from powershitting. how about 3x sets bp, 3x incline, 3x flies?
makes sense, I would recommend 6-8 reps on Bench, 8-10 on Incline and 10-12 on flies. Maybe do double progression or something on them and always keep good form and go to RPE 9 atleast.
Also feel free to replace your Bench with variations from time to time like Close Grip, Spoto or even weighted Dips when you start stalling for a bit.
I know it shouldn't happen but bench press gives me lower back pain. Dips have always been a decent alternative for me, except I don't have a good way to do them weighted.
arch your upper back not your lower back and engage your glutes anon
I have kyphosis (rounded upper back) so I believe what happens is that I lack the mobility to arch the upper back and end up arching the lower back too much. I've tried stretching and posture correction, never really fixed my shit though. For some time I used to put an abmat or even a small pillow under my upper back during bench but it's not very practical.
In that case just disregard my advice, if you have a special condition my cookie cutter online advice will not help you. just stick with dips or try if other bench variations work for you such as incline.
All good, I'm sure you diagnosed it correctly though, I wasn't even sure what was happening myself but what you said makes sense. I've avoided bench for quite some time now, I think I will still at least give it a go with your advice.
Either go on the floor or do Larsen presses. The issue you have is the leg drive if you want to fix it, otherwise I say remove it altogether.
Smith bench.
I do dips but I’d choose bench honestly. I feel like dips are a bit overrated as much as I’d like to buy into the hype
Press dips
Either me or my shoulders are moronic and any kind of benching feels wrong and impingement-y. Dips on the other hand feel like heaven for some reason.
dips are far better on your shoulders.
most people that can't dip are accomplished bench pressers, the reason why is that the bench press destroys your shoulder mobility and then you go to dip and snap your shit.