how do i avoid the sedating effects of clonazepam/klonopin while experiencing the anti anxiety effects it gives?
i take 0.5mg of clonazepam and it makes me feel like my brain is slowly shutting down. i tried taking caffeine to counteract the sleepiness but it doesn’t seem to do much
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Look at this anon pumping his brain with a potent depressant not liking the depressant effects.
Anon stop right here and don’t even think about speedballing your daily life.
You are hooked on an a pill that severely limits your cognitive abilitys, you are fricked up high and your brain can’t diagnose itself properly during it
>severely limits your cognitive abilitys
Ironic
Black person stop taking those fricking things. Those drugs are fricking old psycho b***h candy. You are a man and tou dont need to be floating on a fricking sugae cloud. Throw em in the trash
>t. Knower
I’ve been down that road many times my man. Just stop taking those.
i don’t really take them for recreational purposes i have social anxiety
also i used them for a year and forgot about them for like 3 and recently im just back again since other treatments hasn’t helped
i’m not and have never been addicted
i’ve always stuck to low doses
also to add on, i don’t understand the fear around benzos. yes i understand the withdrawals are hellish but i myself do not have an addictive personality
plus they aren’t all that euphoric, just feels like alcohol but slightly more sober
Sure buddy that’s how it works, no addict ever planned being addicted. you take low doses of a highly potent benzo without medical supervision. You’re playing with the devil
see i don’t understand the strong reaction, because i’ve already told you i’ve had past experiences and there was absolutely 0 signs of dependency or addiction. i just stopped taking it and that was it
Lmao, have fun becoming a junky you delusional moron
>i have social anxiety
It's all in your head, pills don't fix that shit, you need to loosen up and stop giving a frick
frick u mayne i’ve tried exposure therapy hell i even work a job in hospitality where i have to talk to people everyday and my situation hasn’t improved
im fricking stressed constantly
Read my post
It's
All
In
Your
Head
You're stressed because you're making yourself stressed, what do you have to fear, why do you care, you're putting too much thought into shit that doesn't matter, just let go and get loose homie
homie u might as well go up to a depressed person and tell them it’s all in your head just be happy and you’ll be happy bro
That’s true though. Depression and suffering are a choice made by the weak
That's the answer you goddamn debbie downer, it took me 10 years of mental illness, dozens of antidepressants (which didn't do shit) and a really good mushroom trip to realize that the only one holding me back is myself and that I've wasted years hurting myself for no reason, do you want to spend the rest of your life just crying and worrying about shit and pushing yourself down or are you gonna get up, stop giving a frick and start improving yourself, it's all gonna come to an abrupt end anyway, there's nothing to worry or care about, just do shit and live in the moment, sometimes you fail, sometimes you succeed, we all walk the same path and we all have the same destination, clear your mind of the impure thoughts, wipe the slate clean, build yourself up anew, the only one who can fix yourself is you, there is no magic pill to solve your problems, you just have to suck it up and face reality like everyone else in all of history.
depression is because of outside factors 99% of the time. If someone losses their job on top of getting in a car accident on top of their dad dying all in a one week time span they're doing to be so stressed and overwhelmed that depending on their specific personality/genetics will manifest as some kind of nervous breakdown with the most common being depression. But I guess since you spent a decade on your ass you're an authority on mental health
>depression is because of outside factors 99% of the time.
No, no it is not, in fact the inverse is true, you're forcing yourself into mental anguish because you can't cope with reality, bad things happening is not an excuse to just sit down and do nothing, you're the one forcing yourself down regardless of any external factors, bad shit happens to everyone, you're not fricking special, what, you think I haven't been a moron at a job or lost a family member, of course I have, but that's not a fricking excuse to keep myself from being better and achieving more, using this shit as a crutch just sends you in an eternal loop of delusion and self pity, as if the universe only ever specifically fricks you in the ass, it's all up to you, stay a whiny piece of shit, mope around and keep lying to yourself that you're never good enough, or some other classical excuse that your deluded subconscious keeps feeding you, or tell that shit to go frick itself, get the frick up and make your dreams come true, frick you, LIGHTWEIGHT BABYYY
>dozens of antidepressants over a decade
>one mushroom trip fixes
tale as old as time
>your mental disorder is all in your head
well no shit moron
>just stop having a mental disorder
I hate normalgays so fricking much its unreal
>frick u mayne i’ve tried exposure therapy hell i even work a job in hospitality where i have to talk to people everyday and my situation hasn’t improved
meme advice like this actually makes social anxiety worse if its not done with structure.
Unless you learn how to recognize thinking errors and how to change them, "exposure therapy" is doomed to fail.
People who say this shit have never experienced it. It's like having a radio playing nothing but the static at full blast the entire time you're around people. You can't focus. You can't remember anything said. It's a complete wreck of state of mind.
You can't simply "power through it" without going full autismo. For example, closing your eyes and focusing only on words and the conversation. Drowning out all other sensory input. Which is clearly not an option when face to face with someone (like you will sometimes see severely autistic people do, which is why I said that). You can do it on the phone. Even better with text. But face to face, forget it.
Not to mention you quite literally have the same adrenaline rush that most people would only get being chased by a bear, and that snowballs itself because you’re hyper aware on everything around you and yourself (while simultaneously being unfocused) so you have the awareness to know in the moment “this is fricking absurd I look so weird right now no one understands I’m probably take thing everyone out” and it gets worse and worse. It’s super easy to just say “oh it’s in your head” that’s a midwits concealed dagger to attempt and force some machismoism to ego jerk off in this topic. Only those who have truly experienced it know. Yeah no ducking shit it’s “in your head” it’s also in every fiber of your body. Just “oh it’s in m thread! Why didn’t I consider that before? DUH!” Doesn’t get rid of it, only repeated constant never ending exposure applying progressive overload gets rid of it, and honestly that’s a dangerous game because it can make it worse if you have shitty experiences doing your exposure which is what happened to me. I went from moderate 6/10 anxiety with occasional panic attacks to full blown can’t leave my house anxiety from multiple shit experiences. That took me starting all over form the most basic levels to fix like going to my mail box/taking trash out working up to going shopping, to standing in a crowded mall and eventually getting busy jobs. And I’m STILL fricked up despite functioning again I just stopped caring how I look to others when I’m panicking. The panic still happens. Imagine having a totally normal day and out of nowhere massive adrenaline rush for no reason. Realizing “Oh it’s in your head” isn’t fixing that there’s something broken in your brain. We fricking know it’s in our head, that’s the whole damn issue.
You mentioned adrenaline and that’s why we’re recommending beta blockers and not addictive benzos. It’s still a crutch but exponentially less dangerous. Beta blockers stop that fight or flight time warp that you dread.
That’s not what I said I’m one of the anons suggesting beta blockers above. I responded to
who responded to
Who said
>pills don’t fix
That’s what I was talking about. Pills absolutely fix this shit see this gay
I’m sure spending 16 hours a day on IST and a screen is really helping your social development and mental health progress.
It sounds like you would know. I post here one maybe two times a week on lunch break for an hour and a half. Suck me down to my ass cheeks.
you just described this infinite feedback loop.
The trick is learning how to pull yourself out of it
Yes anon I never experienced it, it wasn't like I slashed my arms open constantly or anything, or got panic attacks just from sitting on the bus because I felt like I was being watched or judged, my hair was unkempt and long, I was a b***h, I was admitted to a mental ward, eveb diagnosed with minor schizophrenia (although this was a moronic diagnosis, so much for psychological "experts") because I wallowed in a delusion, I'd constantly get wasted and black out only to find out that I had destroyed myself again and again every time I came to, if only I had known back then that the solution was to just stop being a fricking pussy, there is nothing to fear, just let go of your moronic thought patterns, you're the fricking pinnacle of universal engineering, if you want to you can accomplish anything and the only thing stopping you is that homie staring back at you in the mirror, now I'm stronger than I've ever been before, I got a great job with great pay, I'm much more social, I actually take care of myself instead of just rotting away day to day wondering why I am even alive, you need to learn to appreciate life and yourself, pull your head out of your ass and stop shitting on your own head
>self harmer
>realized if he lived healthier and actually tried putting some effort in and caring for himself just maybe he would feel better
You could have stopped there yes yes you are stupid an essay wasn’t required to say that.
Most of my life I’ve had crippling lack of confidence, social anxiety and anxiety in general. Bullied and at the bottom the the ladder all throughout high school. Never once took a pill for it because I’m 39 and that wasn’t the go to “solution” at the time. I just internalized it and found my own coping mechanism of varying effectiveness.
Now I’m doing quite well and forcing myself outside of my comfort zone during my early 20s really worked wonders and had cascading effects. I’ve become a high functioning introvert who can schmooze and chat with anyone and I give talks to audiences in the hundreds. Im always nervous as frick and afterwards I’m wiped out but I’ve learned to recognize my thought processes, defense mechanisms and automatic responses. I know myself and I’ve managed to turn a lot of my deficits into strengths for example from weird quiet loner to eccentric friendly intellect. I still have weaknesses and struggle with somethings but what I don’t deal with is a drug addiction and fear of withdrawal. People had to survive in the past without this junk but unfortunately we’re getting kids hooked on the “better living through chemistry” toxic boomer worldview. So they’re fricked even before they had a chance. OP is asking how to deal with being a tranquilizer zombie: what drugs can he take to counteract the side effects of the drug he takes. Sad.
>loosen up and stop giving a frick
this doesnt cure social anxiety, cognitive behavioral therapy does.
so stop spouting bullshit you know nothing about
You’re a drug user anon. Downers, uppers. You are already in that little rollercoaster of wanting an upper because the downer makes you sleepy. What you’re looking for isn’t far from a speedball or something. Just because your drug is in pill form and idiot doctors give them to you doesn’t mean it’s any sort of medicinal help to you. It’s a band-aide the same as beer. If I were chugging a beer every time I had social anxiety, even at work, would you think I have a problem? Beer doesn’t even get me buzzed it just relieves the anxiety. Same as what you’re doing. What if your pill was powder and you snorted it every time? What if you had to smoke it? Why can you take your drug while driving 75mph down the freeway but someone else can’t enjoy a beer on the road?
No, a speedball typically refers to a combination of a stimulant (like cocaine or amphetamines) and a depressant (like heroin or other opioids). Benzodiazepines and caffeine don't fit this classification as a speedball because benzodiazepines are depressants like alcohol or sleeping pills, and caffeine is a stimulant found in coffee and other beverages.
>a speedball typically refers to a combination of a stimulant and a depressant
>Benzodiazepines and caffeine don't fit this classification as a speedball because benzodiazepines are depressants and caffeine is a stimulant
the intensity is not comparable you get what i mean
it’s nowhere the same
???
Man you people are autistic. OP takes a med that brings him down, takes caffeine (upper) to keep him up. Sounded like he wants a stronger upper. I was hinting that his next level from caffeine, to keep him awake, will probably be adderall or modafinil. Amphetamines are usually the next thing docs throw at people. Or the opposite, they take amphetamines and can’t relax or sleep so they are prescribed benzos. I’ve seen it dozens of times and people go along with it thinking they are nicely medicated. It would be funny if it weren’t so sad.
REEEEEEEE HOW DO I TAKE BENZOS AND NOT FEEL SLEEPY WITHOUT TAKING MORE DRUGS
Yes that was OP’s question thank you for clarifying. If you’re OP, then take the fricking benzos every day and build up a nice tolerance and you won’t get sleepy anymore. Then you can take even more and feel even less anxiety and you will be able to numb yourself and go through the rest of your life not really experiencing any human emotions and finally die and leave this earth you were so scared of for 70 years.
then how the frick do i cure my anxiety when exposure didn’t do shit
Cognitive behavioral therapy. You have anxiety because you’re afraid of something you can’t control. Rewire your brain with mental exercises designed to help you react differently to stressors
but i dont even trust any therapists out there because they’re human meaning they can and will mostly chat shit about me to their colleagues
what should i use benzos for then
most likely chat*
If this is what's keeping you from a therapist you have an intellectual disability as well.
They see dozens of head cases a week. They're not running out their office after you leave and saying "kek you should hear what this anon said! He's such a loser lol" to their coworkers in the break room.
If you have actual physical debilitating anxiety then you should take propranolol as needed, maybe 10-20mg. It’s non addictive and has no effect on cognition, it only stops the adrenaline from making you unable to breathe or speak. You’ll feel panic emotions but it won’t topple you like a wave, you’ll be able to take a breath and just move on through the moment. Amazing for public speaking. If the physical anxiety issues aren’t your main issue then I think you just hate your job and don’t like other people. Which is normal in this society and many unhappy people take drugs to get through the day. Weed gummies, opiates, gaba drugs, etc. I don’t care if you want to take benzos the rest of your life, just don’t be one of those people that aren’t ashamed of the drugs. Keep that secret and work on becoming stronger. I take substances to make myself social and charming for meetings at work. I am nothing without it and I am a weak person.
i don’t have anxiety to the extent i get panic attacks
i just simply don’t want to feel it
Nta I’m the guy who posted near the bottom about considering beta blockers.
If what I try now doesn’t change my anxiety much and I get the script for them, I worry about side effects. Apparently they lead to weight gain and can cause BP issues when stopping them.
But I wonder, can’t I just take it sparingly? Couldn’t I take it as needed? Maybe at most daily for the first few months at a new job, gain comfort and competence and footing and then use it less often such as only at a meeting? My anxiety wanes a lot after I’ve been “in” whatever the thing is. But it’s crippling when first starting like any new job or on a first date or just whatever. It takes me weeks, months, to be functional.
I take propranolol like 1 time per week and have bottles of it stashed away because I use it so rarely. It is my crutch when I really need it for work. I haven’t noticed any side effects, I think it could be an issue if you are taking it every day. You won’t notice anything at all when taking it unless your body was doing “fight or flight” responses. You will still feel anxious in your mind but your breath and pulse will remain stable with propranolol. Like 70% of orchestra performers take it, and many professional public speakers. It’s banned in sports that require stability like Olympic archery.
You can get a dui on benzos moron the bottle says do not operate machinery or drive vehicles
You know what I meant you moron. You think OP takes a taxi home from work when he took his benzo during a stressful meeting?
>i don’t really take them for recreational purposes i have social anxiety
Using drugs to counter social anxiety is called a "safety behavior" is counterproductive in the long run.
Read this workbook pdf so you have an idea of what you need to do then go a therapist.
https://www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself/Social-Anxiety
Unless you are on a constant state of fight of flight, and you feel a constant primal fear that leaves you dreading everything from the very moment you wake up, you do not need benzos.
Why not take SSRI instead?
i don’t wanna mess with antidepressants, i mean i have in the past before i was prescribed benzos but i don’t like the idea of my head being messed with, also side effects like ed sucked
my pp no work or ill cum without any pleasure
>dont like the idea of meds fricking with my head
>let me take these highly potent mind-altering drugs instead
You are already far too deep down the road to delululand, dude. Have fun becoming a completely different person on benzos and forgetting years of your life.
Try out an Ayurvedic herb called 'Mucuna'. It has no side effects and will help with anxiety and overall mood. I'm schizophrenic and it helps me be more social better than the go to drugs by big pharma. A month's supply costs like $10, so at worst you waste peanuts, but at best you find an effective treatment for your issues.
Take beta blockers instead?
beta blockers would be suicide pills for op
Yeah, if he mixed them with the benzos it'd be suicide for sure. b blockers worked well for me for stage fright tho.
Me and OP went over that somewhere in this awful thread.
I take 400mg magnesium and drink body armor for other electrolytes
Sleep better, feel way calmer, no addictive israelite downer pill side effects except occasional diarrhea
First month taking it was so good
Now a couple months in just cruising on it and life has improved
This guy is the equivalent of chad unironically saying “just be yourself, bro” to an ugly virgin. No matter how much you believe in your le epic stoicism, anxiety is a REAL thing. It’s not some made up bullshit for people who are “soft”; it’s genetic. And for the future, please don’t give this spiel about mental illnesses in front of actual professionals (any, not just related to psychiatry) or real people. 90% of them are going to think you are unironically an 85 IQ ape, but they won’t tell you
Not him but who is to say what is the correct amount of anxiety for a person? Does low anxiety give greater or lower standards of living? Which is preferred? Life is suffering and successful people succeed because they do what they have to despite the suffering.
One of the most powerful and addictive substances. Don’t take it anons. Plus it gets confiscated and you get a love letter if you try to order it online these days. Prega is awful to try and ween off, you will never feel as depressed as that in your life. If you insist then take phenibut, it’s weaker but still addictive and not worth it though.
Oops my Pregabalin comment was for
I was in the same boat you fricking moron, I was a complete loser, I just got shitfaced all the time and sliced my arms open and wasted my life, I will never get those years back and yet all it took to fix me was a little shift of perspective, because like I said, in the end it's all in your head, it's your choice whether you fight like a man or perish like a dog
being a loser like you were is the not same thing as having a mental illness.
Assuming you're not just larping
So my anxiety attacks don't count? Self harming? Suicide attempts? Absolute anhedonia and lack of drive to do absolutely anything and the desire to die every single day for years? Nothing mattered, there was no meaning in anything, I was nothing but a husk wasting away. What counts as mental illness then? Unless you are literally braindamaged and have uncontrollable delusions and/or hallucinations or you're straight up mentally moronic you can overcome whatever troubles your mind without having to take pills that artificially elevate your brain chemistry and ruin your normal brain functions, the first step is always the hardest, but little by little as you make things better for yourself you realize that things were never that bad after all, life is just a big joke, so why not sit down and just have a laugh, if you just stop giving a shit and worrying about everything you can achieve anything you want, within the realm of physical possibility at least.
didnt read all that unhinged rambling.
You're pretty fricked in the head so no reason to take advice from you
The difference is in your several posts here you basically said
>not taking care of myself
>depressed and anxious, making even worse choices to cope with how shitty I feel
>start taking care of myself
>wow I feel better now
That’s not what you’re saying it is dipshit. Congrats on taking care of yourself to crawl out of that hole, but for the rest of us we’ve done all that and are still hit with massive panic and anxiety for no reason. Your story is a common one, not to downplay how much it sucked when it sucked or your efforts, but what we are saying is it’s not the same. No fricking shit you’ll be anxious and depressed if you’re just rotting away not even trying and then feel better once you apply yourself and see results.
You’re writing out these long winded responses but it’s literally just coping I’m literally
>look at meeeeeee please validate meeeee
Come back and post when you make 6 figs, are in amazing health, have women putting in all the work to frick you, are otherwise in a position most men derma of being in but for some reason your brain dumps massive amounts of adrenaline out of no where and your vision begins to blur while you’re sweating bullets with a heart going almost 200 bpm when minutes ago you were just chilling.
if youre gonna ruin your life you might aswell take the superior antianxyiolytic. pregabalin
I’m looking into beta blockers. I’m quitting nicotine and caffeine and I’m gonna stop beating off 10x a day first, give it a few months.
If no changes in anxiety I’m just getting on beta blockers until I hopefully no longer need them. My doctor said he’ll give me a script for whatever I want and he doesn’t really give a shit.
Pretty sure my anxiety issues are caused by the overconsumption of nicotine caffeine and excessive beating off though because I started abusing these 3 things around the time I developed this anxiety.
Beta blockers are great if your anxiety has physical symptoms that prevent you from public speaking or performing. When I have to present at work time warps, and I lose my breath and can’t talk for some reason, so propranolol solves this. I still feel scared, but at least I don’t have to deal with physical issues. I can take a moment to collect myself.
I'll never understand this. Like how people abuse Xanax. I take a little bit of that shit and I'm out for 8 hours. There's no getting me up. How do people take it recreationally?
dude. i took those for about 2 weeks during a phase of heavy anxiety.
i still remember the extremly vivid nightmares
>heavily mutilated female corpses trying to get in my pants
>rooms where for some strange reason the devil himself was that i need to decontaminate with some soap?
>strange red lights in the corner of the room while beeing FRICKING AWAKE
those things make you seriously crazy in the long run. god damn i get the bad kind of Goosebumps remembering this.
>mood/thought altering pills
Not even once.
>propranolol
It’s a beta blocker. It blocks adrenaline/ the physical response to anxiety. This allows you to function normally and explore the emotional response while getting exposure and ultimately rewrite your brain to have normal appropriate anxiety responses to things.
As the anon way up above said, most people are using things to get ahead. Everyone does shit, they usually hide it. Sales people are on all kinds of shit like adderall and coke and benzos. The most successful ones are always, and I mean always, using something to get ahead. Most normal people drink or use weed purely to unwind and cope with life so they can get up and do it all again tomorrow.
Let’s not forget, abusing gear to reach fitness goals. Even top level athletes, 99% of them, are there because of drug use.
I don’t think it’s crazy to use this tool temporarily (or forever if you must) to get ahead and beat anxiety so it no longer holds you back. And if you have genuine panic and anxiety issues, it being unresolved absolutely holds you back in life.
I have used many drugs to get ahead over the years but I’m not always sure it was a net gain over the past 20 years of my career. The ups and downs of relying on amphetamines, opiates, gaba drugs, etc had a lot of negatives. Amphetamines made me an amazing guitarist. I had spent 10 years being mediocre but then with amphetamines I progressed in a couple years very quickly. BUT it zapped that creative part of my brain. I can’t write anymore. My band mates had to write the parts and I’d add on top. That’s just one example.
That’s the part about drugs you need to consider, and why I’m a big advocate for temporary usage. They can bring other issues. It’s why research, and careful consideration needs to happen before you take one.
>amphetamines
Assuming you meant adderal but the proper way to use it, and I mean real adderall not that generic amphetamine salts crap (they’re different), is best used in 10mg dosages 1-2x a week. You force yourself to do something you hate doing or can’t focus too well on. This, after some time, trains your brain to associate that thing with the dopamine release so you can then work that hard on it without adderall. I think huberman talks on this in the context of reading books.
I personally would do 1 month on 1 month off and only for about 6 months total with adderall if I used it.
The other part, if knowing yourself. Do you have the self control to use the drug right or will you easily become dependent on it? Will you wind up abusing it? Etc.
I was never able to control adderall. It triggered my alcoholism and gambling addiction. I don’t know a single person that doesn’t run out of their prescription early, but for those that can manage it, good for them. Just don’t pretend that you’re not taking speed, it’s not medicinal, it’s speed. I have found that modafinil has about 25% of the dopamine rush of amphetamines but a good 90% of the hyper focus ability. I rarely get the urge to take modafinil unless I need it for work or to play vidya all day. Very interesting drug. ADHD is an imaginary condition to sell pharma.
You’re spot on about that. No one “needs” medicinal speed. The people I’ve known with diagnosed adhd were just insufferable c**ts who were never disciplined as a child. It usually goes like this
>child, usually male, doesn’t want to sit around inside a class room under fluorescent lights all day doing paper work and forcing themself to maintain an attention span 10x longer than a child actually even fricking has, would prefer to be running around playing outside, you know doing anything entertaining that we all liked to do at that age
>OY VEY YOUR CHILD IS SO ABNORMAL HE HAS A BROKEN BRAIN! HIS DOPAMINE RECEPTORS ARE ALL FRICKED UP! VAT??? A CHILD WHO DOESNT SIT STILL AND EAGERLY LEARN ABOUT MATH AT AN AGE WHERE A MAMMAL IS SUPPOSED TO BE RUNNING AROUND LEARNING TO USE ITS BODY AND EXPLORING THE WORLD? HE NEEDS METH!
>child’s parents never discipline him, they call his progressively worst outbursts normal, make excuses for the shit to be an insufferable c**t
>ironically now that he’s on speed he acts 100x worse but they also have an excuse as to why that is
They actually have a lot of similarities with crack babies, a crack baby adult and an adult who grew up on speed end up as very similarly behaved adults. If you’ve ever been around an actual meth head/ speed addict, and then hung around someone with adhd while they’re on their meds you’d realize they act no different. There’s no “slowing down” like they claim lmfao. It’s speeding them up, shit isn’t slowing down. They just genuinely need it to function and focus after a childhood of being on it. That’s why they swear it works and slows them down. Because the drug damaged them and actually has caused adhd via brain damage.
Spot on. Also I can also spot the amphetamine medicated child with the soulless stare of a burned out middle aged man in a child’s body. Just dead inside, zero worldly youthful inspiration in their eyes. I think it strips their innocence early and they will be addicted for the rest of their life. It’s such an intense dopamine high that turns robotic it’s so sad to see. Yet these people would freak out if their kid were drinking a monster energy drink. Parents so clueless, I get really upset thinking about it sometimes.
> This allows you to function normally
Lol
>no 180 bpm profuse sweating 100 racing thoughts nausea stuttering like a child who pissed themself = Abnormal
Yes.
Enjoy your diabetes
Imagine needing pharmaceuticals to interact with your fellow species kek
Wow anon you’re so cool and you bless with a picture of what a real man looks like? With the timestamp of course
(You won’t)
Yes if you’re a suitable candidate check with doctor
Beta blockers were originally created from chemicals derived from a psilocybin mushroom.
nice, will probably try
>propranolol
so is this the best thing for anxiety
I'm trying prop now.
It calms the anxiety but doesnt give me the euphoric effect I get from xanax or the sleepiness OP refers too.
>takes sedatives
>doesnt want to be sedated
ok then. good luck I guess
you can avoid it by flushing this toxic shit down the toilet. now
Its called being a fricking man and taking all the fricking shit the world slings at you
Stop taking fricking benzos
I legit took. 2 mg of Clonazepam and didn’t feel shit
Split the .5 into halves
Or try lorazepam instead