Alright IST, I need to start doing cardio and want to learn some kind of self defense while doing it.
What should I learn?
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Best Martial Arts to Complement Lifting
Alright IST, I need to start doing cardio and want to learn some kind of self defense while doing it.
What should I learn?
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Aikido
Gun
carrying a gun with no grappling training for making distance and weapon retention is an idiot move.
Boxing or kickboxing are probably the best for cardio. I was in a boxing class in college where our "final" was heavy bag work for the duration of a regular boxing match (12x3 minutes, with a 1 minute rest between). It was a significant workout.
Did they teach me to fight? No not really but aside from the cardio I got good upper body endurance gains (mostly shoulders and back from holding my guard up and punching/retracting).
I'm thinking of joining a kickboxing gym here in the Netherlands but the moronic Dutch hard sparring is really irking me, I kinda don't want to get brain damage
You have to take a punch, or don't bother.
You do, but you don't have to do it every practice.
There's no hard sparring unless you train with competition groups. With the casuals they do body boxing at most so you really don't have to worry about your pretty little head, princess. It also heavily depends on which gym you go to, only places like Mike's gym and similar ones to that one can be actually moronic with sparring. Vos gym has great training and sane sparring, including hard for competition groups, but not moronic levels. Avoid gyms run by Muzzies if possible.
>Mike's Gym
Yeah I heard about then, I prefer smaller gym so probably joining something with both crowd, just in case I like it so much and wanna go pro or some shit
If you're that worried about concussions before even starting, you're not likely going pro, because that's an obvious massive risk. Also it's not like the competition group is just for pros. First you're going to train with the casuals, then move to competition group, then maybe do some amateur fights, going pro would be way further down the line. First you'd even have to find sponsors etc.
how is muay thai? there's a gym near me that seems to have decent reviews, but as a fat frick idk if i can keep up
Muay Thai is my personal fav and great for losing weight but if you're REALLY fat you might destroy your knees.
General mma, then teansition towards whatever part you enjoy the most.
Boxing + any of wrestling, judo or sambo.
I used to have wrestling matches with my Uncle when I was a kid. I didn't always want to play but he told me it was a character building exercise. We didn't have those fancy uniforms so we just did it in our speedos. Hadn't thought about this in a long time actually.
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muay thai >>> boxing
I think boxing and kickboxing are more cardio.
Wrestling requires more strength imo. It's like crossfit where you're doing lots of sub-maximal explosive work.
The last 4 on the bottom should do, just imo.
Any of these are good, look for the best gym nearby you.
Sambo classes are hard as frick to find in europe sadly, also Tae Kwon Do has many styles, there is a style for sport and style for combat and a bunch of traditional styles like Karate, it depends on anon's preference
Meant for
Jiu-jitsu will work most of your muscles. I took some classes at university and I used to stagger to lectures the next day due to the burn.
Lol what. If anything it's mostly cardio, how out of shape were you? If you're flow grappling you hardly use muscle.
he was probably relying way more on strength than technique
He probably fits wrestling more I think, those motherfrickers are strong
boxing and/or wrestling
>good cardio
>good conditioning (wrestling)
>fun
>learn how to defend yourself
I'll put a vote in for bjj because it's the only one from your picrel I've trained. It's extremely fun and it's amazing cardio
I second BJJ. I recently picked it up because there is a place close to my house and it's reminding me of everything I loved about wrestling in college.
Grappling cardio is just a different level of cardio
I'm a fat ass, how bad would it be?
if you don't do any cardio, it's gonna fricking suck for quite a while. just accept that you're going to get gassed out pretty quickly all the time and show up consistently. you'll get it eventually
I might contact a local place and see what they have in terms of programs
i really wanna learn how to beat people up
I found bjj much less cardio intensive than muay thai. Even doing shark tank style rolling where you stay vs 5 fresh dudes
Running
Boxing is a solid choice, circuits + sparring is a good combo and improves your cardio really quick
boxing is singlehandedly the most practical martial art
>self defense
Krav Maga, Ving Tsun, Kali. Sadly, all three are full of scammers.
>cardio
BJJ, Wrestling
But your intentions are moronic. Normally you would do it the other way around, since MA classes are normally not as intense as a good HIT workout. I would recommend a mixture of Crossfit and Strongmen.
t. bouncer that trained BJJ, Crossfit, Kung Fu, Krav Maga, Boxing, Kickboxing, Muay Thai, Strongman, OLY, autistic japanesw sword fighting,...
krav maga went out the window when Eli Avikzar took over and added a shit ton of aikido nonsense
if you want to do the same krav maga Lichtenfeld created, then just learn the basics of boxing and wrestling which is what he was teaching in 1930s Bratislava
if your wrestling with a buff sweaty dude on the floor you've already lost at life.
Judo
Where did people get the 1909 for bjj?
One of kanos students taught (at the time) kano jujutsu to the graces and some other family while touring the world doing challenge matches. The timelines work out as kano was operating late 1800s