Maybe it's in IST but they seem to be more focused on the overall sport, but what's everyone's experience been with BJJ? What positions do you prefer, and what positions do you prefer being within?
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Maybe it's in IST but they seem to be more focused on the overall sport, but what's everyone's experience been with BJJ? What positions do you prefer, and what positions do you prefer being within?
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i like doggystyle personally
That's not a position
I tried it and it felt gay. Like closed guard is just missionary and side control is just hugging
I've been doing it for 6months now and I like it. Its pretty homosexual for sure sometimes. It feels good to fight against someone with 0 experience and then just run circles around them, but at the same time when you roll with someone experienced they'll beat the shit outta you. Good HIIT exercise I think.
I'm heavy and strong which is really nice to pressure against since being a fat frick is harder to roll against and can easily throw lighter opponents around but at the same time easier to get gassed out and get tapped out purely on endurance. Its a fun game of physical chess
Also, it's sort of reminiscent of play fighting when you were kids. I'll usually get there a bit early before the adult classes as the kids classes are finishing up and I'm super envious, I would have enjoyed those classes immensely when I was a kid.
When they take your limb in a hold(I think it's called 'armbar'), why people give up?
Because they can't get out of it, because of pain, or can you actually snap/dislocate elbow/shoulder with it?
snaping joints and even bones is dev real
I heard a story of a guy who snapped someones thigh bone in half.
Breaking elbows with armbar is really easy, if you dont tap fast you can hear and feel joints poping
Arm bar is when you basically catch their arm and hyperextend it. In BJJ every time you tap out, it's an admission of "you got me". If it were a real life fight that ended up on the ground however, that "you got me" translates to, you fricking broke my arm, dislocated my shoulder, choked me to unconsciousness, frickin killed me.
While I know a real fight ending up on the ground with no weapons is a big conditional, it's still pretty wild on the amount of damage you can do/have done to you given the right knowhow, and with BJJ, while size and strength helps, its not the biggest factor, some lighter guys fricking run circles around me just because I have no idea how to pin them down
Because
1) It is painful
2) If you don't tap, they will eventually break your elbow/shoulder/knee/whatever they are applying pressure on
you underestimate just how much force the glutes and hamstrings can produce.
I could finish a straight ankle lock by breaking the tibia if i wanted to, forget about dislocating the elbow.
I have been training for 2 years.
For me its like fitness in a pill. I get few different benefits with less time and more fun overall.
>cardio
>I got stronger and little bigger just from wrestling people ( I have more of a athletic/wrestling style of grappling), I also do some pull ups, sit ups and squads right after training because its convinent
>social benefits, I talk and laugh a lot with people who I meet, I also hit on chicks from time to time. Martial arts b***hies are hot as frick.
>Some people will get butthurt but I learn how to fight and defend myself, if you fight someone 1v1 and he doesnt know how to grapple you win everytime
>its good for mental strength, you learn how to control your ego, emotions and get thicker skin overall ( some people break and quit)
>its fun, its like playing video games but you use your whole body and fight, there are so many techniques and strategies to learn that you can really get autistic about it
>for the same reasons I could also say that its good for developing brain and strategic thinking, you really cant be good at it if youre dumb
And I get all that by training 2 - 4 times a week for like and hour or 90 minutes
It's based but if you're not a manlet you will get injured more than other sports. Even if you are a manlet you will get injured especially if you roll with non manlets, but big guy bjj is where ribs, knees, and spines go to die.
The reason you see so many injuries is because the average person doing it is a spazoid moron who does no strength training.
Strength train, wear mouthguard and kneepads, if someone has you in a near locked out sub (resisting armour by grabbing hands is the common one) just let them have it, if someone is stacking you let them have it, don't go 100% 24/7 and it will avoid the vast majority of injuries.
So much this. So many injuries can be avoided if one just SLOWS THE FRICK DOWN and flows.
I'm pretty sure BJJ has a rate of injury lower than wrestling or judo and almost an order of magnitude lower than striking arts like, say, boxing
>order of magnitude lower than striking arts like, say, boxing
Boxing has an extremely low injury rate for a martial art and the kind of injury is also not as serious.
BJJ has a relatively high rate of catastrophic injury that is almost unheard of for a recreational sport. ACL tear would be career ending for most hobby athletes in every other sport, but in BJJ it's considered "normal" and people come back for more for some reason.
>Boxing has an extremely low injury rate
If you dont count cte. But why wouldnt you? I'd rather have a fricked up knee than early onset dementia.
got a concussion so had to give it up.
I haven't trained in a few years but half guard was my jam. I was notorious at my school for having a really annoying half guard that was insanely difficult to pass. unfortunately that's about all I was good at. our school moved about an hour away and all the other local places are mcdojos so my wife and I haven't been able to train in a long while. I miss it.
>the straightest bjj position
BJJ is hot and I'm tired of pretending it's not
>t. straight guy
My man
Been training 9 years. It's awesome, but gay as frick. Deep half & back mount are my forever positions.
Belt rank? Deep half is gay. I guess you do gi?
Recently got promoted to black. Deep half is something that I kinda fell into at purple and it stayed a major part of my game. I mainly use it for sweeps and back-takes. So many back-takes. And chaining into SLX or X-guard. It's a great position.
I compete locally in gi and no-gi. I podium about half the time, so I'm decent but not great.
>its gay
>coming from the board that spams pictures of oiled up naked men daily and spends hours discussing their bodies
I've seen gay porn like OP's photo.
Used to lift pretty heavy and run a lot, wrestled in HS, discovered bjj and MT in early 20s, trained like 10 years, here is my experience;
>turns out being strong af didn’t help much to win fights
>quit lifting as much
>trained for multiple hours a day after work and loved it
>started fricking mma gym chicks (don’t do this, b***hes are crazier than a middle aged cat lady hopped up on prozac and synthetic estrogen)
>competed in mma and bjj for a while
>got married and had kids
>gym became too much in conjunction with family so quit going to gym
>started lifting again because I can do it in my garage
Basically everyone ends up getting married and stops training except the people who literally work at the gym. It’s a super fun sport, but it’s not the magical fix all pill many people tout it as.
And yeah, an mma gay could absolutely beat a lifter in a fight, and no, you’re not the same size as the mountain and would get btfo by a 6 month white belt.
I’m a former college wrestler, did bjj for a bit. Was fun pooping on brown belts as a white belt even though I wasn’t able to submit anyone
Me, personally, I like to bottom.
I tried it but puked and gagged during the warm ups
>let's make sure that the breakfast is extra filling so I have enough energy in the tank for sparring
no experience, because Blojob Jujitsu is for gays
Reminder: The only 10th dan BJJ fighter to ever live (Helio Gracie) lost a humiliating defeat to a 1st dan Judoka (Kimura)
Therefore a 1st dan black belt in Judo is equivalent to a 11th dan red belt in BJJ
least delusional judogay
And yet Jiu-Jitsu kept being developed further while Judo only went backwards since then, leading to the latter being completely irrelevant in contemporary mixed martial arts.
It's only irrelevant in MMA because Gracies rigged the sport by making padded floors mandatory
If you ever get in a street fight against a judoka you will die, I don't care if you're fricking Rickson Gracie, you will die
If you have some knowledge in wrestling it's actually quite easy to not get death-thrown by judo. Sure you might still get brought down but not in some flashy throw, you just need to keep your hips back
>you just need to keep your hips back
There are lots of throws that work in this position.
Yes I imagine foot sweeps in particular would be very effective
But IMO those are kinda hard because they require precise timing
No, more precisely, sacrifice techniques (sumi gaeshi, tomoe nage, yoko wakare...). Everything that needs your opponent slouching and you just pull down.
It is athletic commissions that stipulate what surface you're allowed to fight on, not the Gracies, and judo itself is done on padded surfaces. Judogays are in danger of becoming nearly as insufferable as BJJgays.
You get CTE from years of hard sparring and fights, not from evening boxing classes like the average hobbyist. People worrying about CTE from a couple of classes a week that they start doing in adulthood have no idea of the work that it takes to make a competitive boxer.
When Judo was invented it was practiced on tatami mats
Those aren't hard as concrete, but they're about the same as carpet on concrete
Not like the sprung mats in Gracie MMA
Current judo though is practiced on literally the exact same mats as bjj.
judo guys are great when they are fighting dudes wearing flowing silk kimonos like they are in feudal japan. anyone in a t-shirt with a tiny amount of mma training and a sloppy single leg absolutely mogs a black belt judoka who will immediately give up their back on the ground for some reason.
>anyone in a t-shirt with a tiny amount of mma training and a sloppy single leg absolutely mogs a black belt judoka who will immediately give up their back on the ground for some reason.
same thing happens to greco-roman wrestlers, they just starfish on the ground and give up
You realize that you learn both in almost every BJJ class right?
BJJ at this point is Wrestling, Judo, and of course jiu jitsu
This. My old gym literally had a judoka, college wrestling coach, and bjj professor working different nights of the week for the grappling class. Had boxers, a taekwando guy, and MT guys for the striking class on different nights too.
>bjj professor
What's wrong with them being called a professor, being a black belt takes like 10 years of consistency going 2 to 4 times a week for an hour. That's just as hard as getting a degree.
It may be a linguistic thing. No idea about Portuguese, but in French even a high school teacher is called a professor. So if professor refers to teachers in general, it could be the equivalent of sensei in Japanese (which is used in both a martial arts and academic context).
yeah it means teacher in portuguese and is used for any kind of coach
also lmaoing hard at (you) for implying college professors deserve more respect than martial arts masters
Reminder that Judo, BJJ, and Sambo are family, and should get along.
Reminder that in the family, the Gracies and their BJJ is that annoying cousin who says his dad works at nintendo and could beat up your dad
Sambo isnt real
All of the five original Gracie brothers were given honorary (fake) tenth degree black belts by their nephew's BJJ association. Helio was, iirc, 4th Dan in Judo at the time he fought Helio and at that time there were only three belts in BJJ: white (student), dark blue (teacher), and light blue (master).
I did BJJ for a few years
I was a brown belt
One day a yellow belt judoka came in and wanted to roll
I said ok and immediately flopped on the ground
He refused to come down to meet me
THAT'S CHEATING!!!!!
No it's not, get up pussy
I did and that's the last thing I remember
The other people in the dojo said he threw me on my head and then immediately transitioned to a rear naked
Things that didn't happen for $400, Alex.
(you)
Outside the US there's really no rivalry between judo and BJJ, most likely because judo is actually popular as an olympic sport outside of America (where wrestling dominates). Brazil itself has had plenty of olympic medallists. Therefore, it's so obvious all this ridiculous shit talk is pure contrarianism from burger judokas just because their sport isn't as prestigious in burgerland as BJJ.
I'm not a burger
I don't like BJJ because the Gracies are frauds with egos the size of Jupiter
>I'm not a burger
You're mind raped by americanism
Sorry, I won't engage in your useless arguments
maybe >>>IST could entertain your baitposting better?
>The Gracies paraded through the arena with a coffin symbolising the death of Judo after Kimura gets defeated by Helio
>Helio was then thrown around like a rag doll for a few minutes, then choked unconcious
>The ref was paid off so he didn't call it, so Kimura released Helio and instead broke his arms in two places
>The Gracies declared this a win because Helio lasted 2 minutes
Tell me they're not fraudulent egotistical losers
dont forget this was under BJJ rules and not judo
Wrong board
>mfw not only you don't train but you don't even lift
I'm sorry that historical facts bother you, but it's true and well documented
get a gym membership, start lifting
>take Judo, a respectable martial art
>cut it in half and remove the most useful parts
judo is already being mistreated by their own practitioners not allowing to grab legs, frick bjj and judo alike, just do grappling starting on your feet
>judo is already being mistreated by their own practitioners not allowing to grab legs
By the IOC. Double leg takedowns were removed to prevent it from looking too much like wrestling and striking was removed to prevent it from looking too much like karate (and karate was utterly hamstringed for being "too violent", including the removal of hook punches [which people now falsely think are unique to boxing]).
Japanese martial arts are literally suffering from success, becoming popular enough to become Olympic events was their undoing.
Kodokan still trains all that shit
And AFAIK it's still valid in All Japan
>the gracies were immoral people
dude they were brasillians, of course they were scumbags
>can't have a single thread about bjj in IST without that one judoschizo spamming in it
truly mindbroken, not even /judo/ likes you
I got into it two years ago after I got attacked by a meth head while in the back of the ambulance. Since then I've armbarred two patients that became violent on me. It's great exercise on top of that, and it's also how I met my current girlfriend.
>t. paramedic
>A paramedic arm barring patients
I don't know why but this made me laugh
Naughty patients get their arm broken until they learn to behave
>easy to do
>completely crushes your enemys skull
i fricking love this submission
found it boring as frick, and felt like i was trying get men into frickable positions
true, but you are also trying to prevent men from being able to frick you. When you think about it, not training BJJ is actually the gayest thing you can do because you are implicitly inviting men to frick you by not being able to resist.
Many judo throws generally land the person doing the throw in a terrible position (uchi mata is probably the best, but needs to be heavily adapted to someone not wearing a flowing bathrobe).
it's literally the most engaging martial art, how brain fried are you?
most other arts boil down to
>repeat this movement a million times alone/with partner
>"spar" for 10 minutes before
pretty much what BBJ was, practice this move, now spar and hug and kiss
BJJ*
>hug and kiss
you say it like it's a bad thing