distance running is extremely diverse. people have theorized that east africans have better genetics than anyone else but as an ex-D1 mid-distance runner myself I don't think that's true
>distance running is extremely diverse. people have theorized that east africans have better genetics than anyone else but as an ex-D1 mid-distance runner myself I don't think that's true
That one high altitude Kenyan tribe clearly dominates marathon distances. I don't follow rooning but it seems diverse when you eliminate that one tribe.
But mid-distances -- this is the world championship 5 km -- are mainly white.
Makes sense that blacks are great at sprinting just as they're dominating by impulsive short-term thinking. Whereas whites are more about long-term planning, 'slow and steady wins the race', etc.
would you rather:
- be able to quickly run away from an opp and successfully get away / run towards your opp and catch him and beat the shit out of him OR
- run really far but slowly
The later is literally the reason for the early success of the human species and its unique strength. Meanwhile literally any shit tier mamal can outsprint a human.
this is cope. Time's have changed
8 months ago
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There's long distance walking (not shown)
8 months ago
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Not true at all. The idea that humans used to run for hours and hours and hours in the hot sun to catch a single prey, then drag it back to camp, again, for hours and hours, is absurd. Humans hunted more like other animals (shocking, I know) and would have used pack tactics to isolate and attack a weak or young animal. Otherwise they would steal carrion. Persistence hunting might be theoretically possible if your tribe is only fit men and you're willing to spend all your time running off into the wilderness who knows where and don't care if you can find your way home or not.
The later is literally the reason for the early success of the human species and its unique strength. Meanwhile literally any shit tier mamal can outsprint a human.
8 months ago
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>The later is literally the reason for the early success of the human species
No, it's the reason for some of the successes of some of the human species. In densely wooded forests, Europe etc, ambush and pack hunting was the norm. Runners were out on the plains or in lightly forested areas. Not everyone ran animals until they died.
A trained distance runner can out sprint 99% of randos out there. A trained sprinter can also out distance most people. Training specificity isn't as prevalent in running as you think.
8 months ago
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There are geriatrics who can run marathons.
8 months ago
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Why the frick do people think finishing a marathon is impressive? Almost anyone can do it given a long enough time allowance.
By your logic a 100m sprint is lame because some fat guy could get it done in about 20 seconds.
8 months ago
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A fat guy is not going to be able to do it at an impressive speed. That's why speed is more impressive than distance.
youre moronic if you think sprinting and distance running is mutually exclusive. you can train for both, they even compliment each other very well. sprinters do slow runs and marathoners do speed work all the time, you are just naive and not knowledgeable about running at all. take a break from the IST drivel
8 months ago
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>youre moronic if you think sprinting and distance running is mutually exclusive
youre moronic if you think I said anything to that effect
8 months ago
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you did homie.
8 months ago
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“would you rather”
8 months ago
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>coke or pepsi
HURRR THEY'RE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE ACTUALLY I DRINK BOTH
>Makes sense that blacks are great at sprinting just as they're dominating by impulsive short-term thinking. Whereas whites are more about long-term planning, 'slow and steady wins the race', etc.
Jesse what the frick are you talking about???
Although you're probably American so we can't expect much
That’s true, but there are other places on earth without harsh winters. India and south China have a drier and rainier season, same as some African locations, and they’re “winters” aren’t cold at all. You can grow/forage crops at all times of the year.
But I’ve never heard of Indians the Chinese being described as bad at planning because of it
The capacity to plan is both cultural and biological. Why would European hunter gatherers be planners when they lacked food preservation technology? Sure they are capable of gaining and losing weight more efficiently but that's just their metabolism (whites get fatter before winter and are the slimmest in the summer, kinda like bears), but it's debatable how much that affects psychology. Planning is more a feature of peoples who developed agriculture and architecture. + China and India have always been overpopulated so just the quantity of required food would make them better at planning, tho Asians gain and lose weight more slowly. Personally as a central European I reckon I'll put on 8-10 more kilograms by December and I would have lost them by April. Kinda happens every year, since I eat more or less in accordance to the season (tho I probably eat more vegetables during the winter than my ancestors, but not too that much more, certainly more fresh ones)
the environment africans lived in for thousands of years isn't very different to the one europeans or indians have lived in. we've all had the same main pressures: run to catch animals and cut down trees to make homes and fire. however, africans and indians have had more pressure to develop melanated skin, since their environment is very sunny. try living a hunter gatherer lifestyle in africa. you'll see how "easy" it is. it's just as hard as living that lifestyle in europe. chasing animals down, chopping wood, building huts and fireplaces is a universal human experience.
>cut down trees to make homes and fire
Yeah, no. Otherwise Africans would have actually built metal tools for cutting wood instead of hitting them with sharp rocks. You can sleep outside all year round around the tropics, like you can during European summers, but you'll die within hours if you are outside and naked during winter in Europe. Africans only needed wood for cooking and for primitive not cold adjusted buildings. Europeans sweat differently (I.e. more in the summer), to keep themselves cold because their bodies are adapted to the colder climate (and to having drinkable water relatively in abundance), they have thicker torsos, they have more body hair, they are more adaptable to changing their sleep cycles due to changing light hours, their minds and cultures are dominated by the idea of planning ahead, not just for the next hunting session, but months and even years at the time, since they rely on agriculture, their digestive systems are different, they can dink milk, fat distribution is different.
>it's just as hard as living that lifestyle in europe
You're comparing apples with pears. Sure surviving is challenging, but different threats lead to different adaptations.
>he thinks race biology is real science
moron. No POC is different from whites biologically its all about socioeconomic status and culture.
You sound like an American Black who thinks that america is the entire world (nobody in Europe uses POC unironically). Let me remind you that whites are not native to America but to Europe and that New York, a city you consider to be colder than average is at the same latitude as Rome a scorching hot city by most European standards. And we are currently living through global warming Europe used to be much colder during the winters. With the exception of the west European coast where winters are milder due to hot water currents continental Europe is just slightly warmer than the south of Canada and northern Europe is comparably cold to Canada. There are literally cases of rapefugees that get to northern Europe then they leave because they can't stand the weather.
8 months ago
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you're wrong and i refuse to elaborate why because im not spending any more time on this incel board. But keep being ignorant and wrong, it suits you.
8 months ago
Anonymous
You're just coping. The genetic difference between Euros and Subsaharans is as big the difference between wolves and coyotes. There's no comparison, they're practically different species.
homie you can literally see with your own eyes that they are different. Why would their skin be the only thing that is different about them? If their outside had time to develop differently then surely their insides have too
>Makes sense that blacks are great at sprinting just as they're dominating by impulsive short-term thinking. Whereas whites are more about long-term planning, 'slow and steady wins the race', etc.
Most moronic theory I've ever heard
>high altitude Kenyan tribe clearly dominates marathon distances
Wasn't it just that they were doping and not being tested because they couldn't be bothered to send testers up the mountain?
This is slight cope. Certainly a lot of athletes dope, but certain countries are notorious for it. The rate of doping athletes in the states is probably 1/10th what it is in Russia for example.
>muh long term planning
Man if you're going to call black people stupid then at least don't be stupid yourself. Look up Eliud Kipchoge. His marathon mile splits are like a metronome, his 20th mile is within like 5 seconds of his first, dude's a god
What a goal post shift. I guess in your head whites don't have the long term planning to dope to win in running despite doping in every other sport like every other race.
I will explain why it is thought that East Africans are suited best for distance running. It comes down to VO2 max, muscle type, weight, and torso to leg ratio. East Africans, unlike West Africans, have a less instance of the sprinter gene, and East Africans have long legs compared to the torso. East Asians are best for swimming because they have the most buoyant bones and they have stubby legs and a wide torso. The problem east Asians have in swimming is that you also should be tall which East Asians are less prone than Europeans.
You also have to take into account that the "africans" are a mixture of a whole bunch of tribes, and the genetic difference between one tribe and the next is often as big as the difference between a European and an Asian.
Wasn't there some eastern european jerrycan head who is holding 24 hrs record at some 300+ km. By US American standards the dude is 'white' or 'caucasian'.
>top row 4th from right
LEGS
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imagine those legs spread wide open and waving back and forth in the air as you plow that b***h while she makes horse noises
the Jamaican and southeastern runners always sucked in relays because they couldn’t do handoffs. Italians aren’t black but they crush at sprinting and high jump
t. Ran college 100m, 200m and some big international track meets
I don't blame them. Especially if they're American. The amount of "muh African superiority" shit in American media and culture is disgusting. It's honestly enjoyable even for me to watch a white person shit all over blacks because of how pervasive that shit is and I'm not even white. Karsten Warholm setting records was awesome and hilarious to watch the black competitors seethe afterwards.
I am white, and I do blame them. It's embarrassing to see my race being dragged down into sports squabbles. White people didn't used to be like this. I think it means that whites are starting to doubt their self worth and are clinging to external validation, like running fast.
But tying your self worth to running fast is fragile and pathetic. If I had a friend like that I would tell him to go to therapy.
blacks excel at certain sports because of LIMB LENGTH. Not intelligence or superior genetics or whatever the frick. Let me explain:
On average, a black man has a shorter torso with longer arms and legs. (Than a white man) >see picrel, an extreme example
MEANING, they excel at sports like; >boxing >running >stealing etc.
Because having longer arms gives you an edge in boxing etc. etc.
This is also why they are shit at the following sports; >swimming >weightlifting/strongman competitions (no black man has ever won a worlds strongest man competition, it's all scandinavians and sheit)
Having long limbs is bad for these activities because it takes more energy to exert the same amount of force over a longer limb than a shorter one, past a certain point it just becomes extremely inefficient.
There DO exist outliers however;
e.g. Tyson Fury has the edge over his black contemporaries because he is so fricking tall his limbs are longer than theirs anyway.
distance running is extremely diverse. people have theorized that east africans have better genetics than anyone else but as an ex-D1 mid-distance runner myself I don't think that's true
>distance running is extremely diverse. people have theorized that east africans have better genetics than anyone else but as an ex-D1 mid-distance runner myself I don't think that's true
That one high altitude Kenyan tribe clearly dominates marathon distances. I don't follow rooning but it seems diverse when you eliminate that one tribe.
But mid-distances -- this is the world championship 5 km -- are mainly white.
Makes sense that blacks are great at sprinting just as they're dominating by impulsive short-term thinking. Whereas whites are more about long-term planning, 'slow and steady wins the race', etc.
sprinting is based, long distance is for old people and vegans
Long distance runners look like vegans and old people, I'll give you that
would you rather:
- be able to quickly run away from an opp and successfully get away / run towards your opp and catch him and beat the shit out of him OR
- run really far but slowly
Long distance running is better for hunting.
not anymore
There’s no sprinting in that video
there's no long distance running either
this is cope. Time's have changed
There's long distance walking (not shown)
Not true at all. The idea that humans used to run for hours and hours and hours in the hot sun to catch a single prey, then drag it back to camp, again, for hours and hours, is absurd. Humans hunted more like other animals (shocking, I know) and would have used pack tactics to isolate and attack a weak or young animal. Otherwise they would steal carrion. Persistence hunting might be theoretically possible if your tribe is only fit men and you're willing to spend all your time running off into the wilderness who knows where and don't care if you can find your way home or not.
The later is literally the reason for the early success of the human species and its unique strength. Meanwhile literally any shit tier mamal can outsprint a human.
>The later is literally the reason for the early success of the human species
No, it's the reason for some of the successes of some of the human species. In densely wooded forests, Europe etc, ambush and pack hunting was the norm. Runners were out on the plains or in lightly forested areas. Not everyone ran animals until they died.
A trained distance runner can out sprint 99% of randos out there. A trained sprinter can also out distance most people. Training specificity isn't as prevalent in running as you think.
There are geriatrics who can run marathons.
Why the frick do people think finishing a marathon is impressive? Almost anyone can do it given a long enough time allowance.
By your logic a 100m sprint is lame because some fat guy could get it done in about 20 seconds.
A fat guy is not going to be able to do it at an impressive speed. That's why speed is more impressive than distance.
youre moronic if you think sprinting and distance running is mutually exclusive. you can train for both, they even compliment each other very well. sprinters do slow runs and marathoners do speed work all the time, you are just naive and not knowledgeable about running at all. take a break from the IST drivel
>youre moronic if you think sprinting and distance running is mutually exclusive
youre moronic if you think I said anything to that effect
you did homie.
“would you rather”
>coke or pepsi
HURRR THEY'RE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE ACTUALLY I DRINK BOTH
The ideal distance to train for is a 1600 meter run, then. That's about a mile. By that point you're sure to have lost your pursuer.
>this one thing im good at doesnt count
many such cases
>Makes sense that blacks are great at sprinting just as they're dominating by impulsive short-term thinking. Whereas whites are more about long-term planning, 'slow and steady wins the race', etc.
Jesse what the frick are you talking about???
Although you're probably American so we can't expect much
>he thinks race biology is real science
moron. No POC is different from whites biologically its all about socioeconomic status and culture.
Africans still waiting on basic culture and technology manuals to drop from the sky
do you deny that they evolved in a totally different environment, where food was freely available and they had no harsh winters to prepare for?
That’s true, but there are other places on earth without harsh winters. India and south China have a drier and rainier season, same as some African locations, and they’re “winters” aren’t cold at all. You can grow/forage crops at all times of the year.
But I’ve never heard of Indians the Chinese being described as bad at planning because of it
*Their
The capacity to plan is both cultural and biological. Why would European hunter gatherers be planners when they lacked food preservation technology? Sure they are capable of gaining and losing weight more efficiently but that's just their metabolism (whites get fatter before winter and are the slimmest in the summer, kinda like bears), but it's debatable how much that affects psychology. Planning is more a feature of peoples who developed agriculture and architecture. + China and India have always been overpopulated so just the quantity of required food would make them better at planning, tho Asians gain and lose weight more slowly. Personally as a central European I reckon I'll put on 8-10 more kilograms by December and I would have lost them by April. Kinda happens every year, since I eat more or less in accordance to the season (tho I probably eat more vegetables during the winter than my ancestors, but not too that much more, certainly more fresh ones)
the environment africans lived in for thousands of years isn't very different to the one europeans or indians have lived in. we've all had the same main pressures: run to catch animals and cut down trees to make homes and fire. however, africans and indians have had more pressure to develop melanated skin, since their environment is very sunny. try living a hunter gatherer lifestyle in africa. you'll see how "easy" it is. it's just as hard as living that lifestyle in europe. chasing animals down, chopping wood, building huts and fireplaces is a universal human experience.
>cut down trees to make homes and fire
Yeah, no. Otherwise Africans would have actually built metal tools for cutting wood instead of hitting them with sharp rocks. You can sleep outside all year round around the tropics, like you can during European summers, but you'll die within hours if you are outside and naked during winter in Europe. Africans only needed wood for cooking and for primitive not cold adjusted buildings. Europeans sweat differently (I.e. more in the summer), to keep themselves cold because their bodies are adapted to the colder climate (and to having drinkable water relatively in abundance), they have thicker torsos, they have more body hair, they are more adaptable to changing their sleep cycles due to changing light hours, their minds and cultures are dominated by the idea of planning ahead, not just for the next hunting session, but months and even years at the time, since they rely on agriculture, their digestive systems are different, they can dink milk, fat distribution is different.
>it's just as hard as living that lifestyle in europe
You're comparing apples with pears. Sure surviving is challenging, but different threats lead to different adaptations.
You sound like an American Black who thinks that america is the entire world (nobody in Europe uses POC unironically). Let me remind you that whites are not native to America but to Europe and that New York, a city you consider to be colder than average is at the same latitude as Rome a scorching hot city by most European standards. And we are currently living through global warming Europe used to be much colder during the winters. With the exception of the west European coast where winters are milder due to hot water currents continental Europe is just slightly warmer than the south of Canada and northern Europe is comparably cold to Canada. There are literally cases of rapefugees that get to northern Europe then they leave because they can't stand the weather.
you're wrong and i refuse to elaborate why because im not spending any more time on this incel board. But keep being ignorant and wrong, it suits you.
You're just coping. The genetic difference between Euros and Subsaharans is as big the difference between wolves and coyotes. There's no comparison, they're practically different species.
homie please
homie you can literally see with your own eyes that they are different. Why would their skin be the only thing that is different about them? If their outside had time to develop differently then surely their insides have too
Haha baiting IST is so easy
How can anyone take opinions like this seriously?
Gr8 b8 m8
>Makes sense that blacks are great at sprinting just as they're dominating by impulsive short-term thinking. Whereas whites are more about long-term planning, 'slow and steady wins the race', etc.
Most moronic theory I've ever heard
>high altitude Kenyan tribe clearly dominates marathon distances
Wasn't it just that they were doping and not being tested because they couldn't be bothered to send testers up the mountain?
You think the others aren't doping either? Natty sports is every bit a meme as natty bodybuilding
This is slight cope. Certainly a lot of athletes dope, but certain countries are notorious for it. The rate of doping athletes in the states is probably 1/10th what it is in Russia for example.
The only difference is they JWADA never tests the Black folk. Ever.
It’s mostly that that tribe is obsessed with distance running and it’s all they so
>muh long term planning
Man if you're going to call black people stupid then at least don't be stupid yourself. Look up Eliud Kipchoge. His marathon mile splits are like a metronome, his 20th mile is within like 5 seconds of his first, dude's a god
>breaking his PRs in his 40s
Heheheh nothing weird here, I'm sure he is natty.
There's nothing weird about that if you've lived a healthy life and not ruined yourself with drugs, shit sleep, alcohol, etc.
40s is where men peek physically?
It can be as long as you haven't worn yourself down.
He's 38
Yeah sure bro. Vax is also safe and ADHD is real.
Grow up.
There's a total of 0 (zero) pro athletes that are natty you absolute naive moron Black person israelite troony fatass american
What a goal post shift. I guess in your head whites don't have the long term planning to dope to win in running despite doping in every other sport like every other race.
>But mid-distances -- this is the world championship 5 km -- are mainly white.
noted white man Hicham El Guerrouj
I will explain why it is thought that East Africans are suited best for distance running. It comes down to VO2 max, muscle type, weight, and torso to leg ratio. East Africans, unlike West Africans, have a less instance of the sprinter gene, and East Africans have long legs compared to the torso. East Asians are best for swimming because they have the most buoyant bones and they have stubby legs and a wide torso. The problem east Asians have in swimming is that you also should be tall which East Asians are less prone than Europeans.
No, intelligence is better for hunting.
wow great comment dood
You also have to take into account that the "africans" are a mixture of a whole bunch of tribes, and the genetic difference between one tribe and the next is often as big as the difference between a European and an Asian.
Wasn't there some eastern european jerrycan head who is holding 24 hrs record at some 300+ km. By US American standards the dude is 'white' or 'caucasian'.
>By US American standards
You guys act like the US isn't the country that made racial standards.
>top row 4th from right
LEGS
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G
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imagine those legs spread wide open and waving back and forth in the air as you plow that b***h while she makes horse noises
I much prefer the Olympic Death March. Shame they axed it last I heard.
That looks fun, wish I'd known about it
black women have been training for centuries to run from black men. White women only recently started learning it.
Come do your jobs jannies, why the frick is a polpost still around six hours later?
It's about a sport so it's more on-topic than 95% of posts here
call me when someone beats Bolt
the Jamaican and southeastern runners always sucked in relays because they couldn’t do handoffs. Italians aren’t black but they crush at sprinting and high jump
t. Ran college 100m, 200m and some big international track meets
Track and field is where rich white men send their hot daughters cuz that's where there are no lesbians
True for males since they are actually the hunters. Black women get too thick to run fast.
Isn't the world's fastest sprinter a white kid?
Technically the most explosive sprinter.
Wrong, here is the most explosive sprinter
>can't run more than a single race without dying
Someone skips their tempo workouts.
This thread is embarrassing. Ffs its the sort of cope that black people go for. Stop being insecure about being white
I don't blame them. Especially if they're American. The amount of "muh African superiority" shit in American media and culture is disgusting. It's honestly enjoyable even for me to watch a white person shit all over blacks because of how pervasive that shit is and I'm not even white. Karsten Warholm setting records was awesome and hilarious to watch the black competitors seethe afterwards.
I am white, and I do blame them. It's embarrassing to see my race being dragged down into sports squabbles. White people didn't used to be like this. I think it means that whites are starting to doubt their self worth and are clinging to external validation, like running fast.
But tying your self worth to running fast is fragile and pathetic. If I had a friend like that I would tell him to go to therapy.
I'm holding out for the day you morons realize that race is an incredibly bad predictor of performance in any given sport
blacks excel at certain sports because of LIMB LENGTH. Not intelligence or superior genetics or whatever the frick. Let me explain:
On average, a black man has a shorter torso with longer arms and legs. (Than a white man)
>see picrel, an extreme example
MEANING, they excel at sports like;
>boxing
>running
>stealing etc.
Because having longer arms gives you an edge in boxing etc. etc.
This is also why they are shit at the following sports;
>swimming
>weightlifting/strongman competitions (no black man has ever won a worlds strongest man competition, it's all scandinavians and sheit)
Having long limbs is bad for these activities because it takes more energy to exert the same amount of force over a longer limb than a shorter one, past a certain point it just becomes extremely inefficient.
There DO exist outliers however;
e.g. Tyson Fury has the edge over his black contemporaries because he is so fricking tall his limbs are longer than theirs anyway.