Christianity is a false religion. All the gospels were written multiple decades after the death of christ. There are no contemporary sources about this jesus guy.
>i nn-eed my contemporary reddit soource? source? do you have a source? sources from an age when record keeping didn't exist and we are very lucky to have plato or ovid... thank god for the late medieval ages when historical sources became reliable. i am an intellectual btw
really its the cart leading the horse with your logic, because if you are really spiritual then you would seek to discovery proof of christ beyond dusty old books, and if you were really demonic then you detest Christ like a vampire hates light. so the contemporary book thing is quite irrelevant. even if the whole world disbelieves in Christ and agrees with you, you'd still seethe. the existence of Christ is in the seething.
now this is a fit thread and i would like to get back to the occult origins of bread. the occultists believe that there was a cannabilistic pre human race, the remains of which are the Abos, and that the pre-this-world Christians started eating bread to end the cycle of cannabilism, I think Steiner talks about this
Prove that "Plato" isn't a pseudonym that was written into history long after the time of the greeks, and that a man named plato objectively lived and wrote all these things in ancient greece, - and not some religious or philosophical scholar from the past 500 years in the process of literally writing history for the first time shoehorning in his own beliefs - is essentially what you're being asked. I have no skin in the game just saying the victims of "plato's cave" are defined by their unquestioning gullibility and ignorance of any other options
Christianity, just as any other religion, is the OG psyop to keep the masses in check. Simple as that. It's a literal cope for people that are weak and afraid of dying.
>is a psyop because people never wondered where they came from, why they are here, and where they are going when they die
2/10, you're a homosexual and should kys
Modern humans were a mistake.
God does not, and never had, a son. He simply is. There is no such thing as a Demigod, despite what your pagan ("but not really!!!!") books might say.
Christianity killed western society.
Cope. Rome and Ancient Greece built society from the ground. After Christianity took over the west went into the dark ages. Fricking Islam was more influential in the cradle of western society because Christianity was so shit. Slave religion.
Christianity, just as any other religion, is the OG psyop to keep the masses in check. Simple as that. It's a literal cope for people that are weak and afraid of dying.
Up doot for you too! It’s fantastic (forgive my over-enthusiasm) seeing another intellectual in this subreddit
If I could, I would give ALL OF YOU heckin gold!
Christianity, just as any other religion, is the OG psyop to keep the masses in check. Simple as that. It's a literal cope for people that are weak and afraid of dying.
Christianity killed western society.
Frick you homies Christ is king there's no doubt you mark my words gays you will Feel dumb as frick on the judgement day
>Most writings about famous ancient people tend to be written decades after their deaths though.
Which only suggests a lot of ancient writing about people is unreliable. It does nothing to argue against what the guy you are replying to was typing about.
>i nn-eed my contemporary reddit soource? source? do you have a source? sources from an age when record keeping didn't exist and we are very lucky to have plato or ovid... thank god for the late medieval ages when historical sources became reliable. i am an intellectual btw
All the apostels were martyred for their belief in Jesus Christ, you dumb Black person ape. You think it's just a coincidence they all preached the same story and were so convinced they gave their own lives for it?
You are a fallible and weak man that thinks that there won't be anything to judge you after death. You will pay the ultimate price for your ineptitude and perverse sense of disbelief.
Based and truth pilled
Get a room with him queer dog. Maybe you'll be so busy sucking each other off that you won't have time to blaspheme.
I love my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. How could the Son of the living God love me, a sinner so much that He was willing to leave his throne to die for me just so that I can live with Him. For that I lift for my King
that doesn't even make sense, he could have just called from the heavens promising forgiveness to all believers. What was the point of giving himself a mortal (but not really) body and dying (but not really)?
But it's all God. He broke His own rules to defy a force He already controls, what's the point of this convolution, aside from trying to tell a compelling story?
Do you know how the entire universe works? No, you don't. You don't know the rules, or the full significance of what happened. No human knows, that's why its considered a mystery to an extent. But it's pretty obvious which side it's better to be on, that God has made explicitly clear.
>It’s all God
And?
Jesus is the Son of God the Father, whilst also being God in the flesh
Jesus was still his own man, he still had his own life, his death meant something because he 1. Became the perfect embodiment of man’s connection to God, giving us a perfect ideal life to strive for, and 2. Served as the ultimate sacrifice as the Lamb of God, dying for our sakes being the Son of God/God in the flesh
Christ conquered death and rose again, and in his sacrifice, gave us eternal life like he had achieved in His Kingdom if we choose to take it
It’s not God “breaking His own rules” (which doesn’t make sense at all), but it’s God showing us just how much He loves us by sending His only Son to die for us, whilst also taking on the pain Himself
your entire religion is a basically just a continuous set of shamanic pagan symbolism that's been passed down since the time of the first cave art. even without any bias one can simply look into the history of the cross as a symbol and it'll take you right back to some of the first shamanic symbolism we ever thought important enough to replicate and preserve through history.
It's a set of traditions that's been mutating out of control for over 2,000 years, constantly losing pieces of itself in translation over time, while constantly under threat of being destroyed or watered down. Ironically it's since become it's own enemy without it's practicioners even being aware of it. A non-spiritual, entirely authoritarian control focused Business model capitalizing on man's innate desire to seek knowledge and communicate with entities of the mind, in lieu of the shamanic foundation whose symbols and themes still absolutely define the religion today, albeit without any of the awareness or intent by it's practicioners.
Basically if kung fu is fake street performer martial arts, and MMA is fighting, you worship kung fu as if it were the ultimate fighting form, ignorant of MMA. Yes I am joe rogan.
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>muh secret esoteric gnostic hidden shaman pagan universal truth
if you read the Pitis Sophia carefully you will see that Christ isn't necessarily out to be everyones friend. and it also just plainly states such in the bible. Many are called but few are chosen.
The Pitis Sophia states that, and its a terrible thing to paraphrase forgive me, but that he seeks quickly to have most people destroyed because they are impure, something to that effect. and quickly to save the spiritually willing.
western society is like any society, has a beginning, middle, and end. exists to serve as a place where a select few perfect souls can be elaborated. the rest are destroyed.
the problem with the Christians is that they assume they are on a winning team. pragmatically 99.9% of Christians are not fundamentally different from atheists. they just have different text in their religion.txt file. the operating system is garbage (the ego)
Cope. Rome and Ancient Greece built society from the ground. After Christianity took over the west went into the dark ages. Fricking Islam was more influential in the cradle of western society because Christianity was so shit. Slave religion.
«Dark ages» is a renaissance lie, historians in europe have known that for a while and it's starting to hit the mainstream. But I wouldn't expect an american to have any grasp of history.
n? you forgot the n. militarized and corporatized Christianity has been one of the most toxic and destructive forces in human history for the last 500+ yrs and your communion and the entire purpose of your religion has been desecrated and defiled so thoroughly it's beyond embarrassing. Instead of speaking to god in a congregation full of peers in psychedelic ecstasy, seeking knowledge, you literally stand in line silently to get on your knees before some pedophile to eat a little wafer of compressed gluten or whatever that is, dunked in dollar store brand grape juice, while submitting to authorities claiming to hold knowledge - in between an hour and a half of, again, thoroughly corrupted and desecrated religious rhetoric and ritual that has completely removed itself from it's original foundations.
sorry if that put a damper on your shitpost but whatever christianity is now, it became a powerful tool for hopelessly nonspiritual people to control you quite some time ago, and is therefore a gains goblin. you've got bigger problems than worrying about your diet, focus on that and come back to fitness of body when you've started cultivating fitness of mind for the first time in your life.
Christianity is a false religion. All the gospels were written multiple decades after the death of christ. There are no contemporary sources about this jesus guy.
>i nn-eed my contemporary reddit soource? source? do you have a source? sources from an age when record keeping didn't exist and we are very lucky to have plato or ovid... thank god for the late medieval ages when historical sources became reliable. i am an intellectual btw
>Record keeping didn't exist during the roman empire
There are contemporary sources for Socrates but not Jesus. Weird isn't it?
really its the cart leading the horse with your logic, because if you are really spiritual then you would seek to discovery proof of christ beyond dusty old books, and if you were really demonic then you detest Christ like a vampire hates light. so the contemporary book thing is quite irrelevant. even if the whole world disbelieves in Christ and agrees with you, you'd still seethe. the existence of Christ is in the seething.
now this is a fit thread and i would like to get back to the occult origins of bread. the occultists believe that there was a cannabilistic pre human race, the remains of which are the Abos, and that the pre-this-world Christians started eating bread to end the cycle of cannabilism, I think Steiner talks about this
Okay
>reddit responses on IST
>atheist
hmm... at least try to be interesting, Christ doesn't need clones in the world
What kind of response do you want?
Wow, interesting! What is the earliest manuscript that provides evidence for contemporary sources for the existence of Socrates?
almost all of Plato's writing
Doesn't answer my question. What's the earliest manuscripts (or fragment) attesting to any of Plato's writing?
Prove that "Plato" isn't a pseudonym that was written into history long after the time of the greeks, and that a man named plato objectively lived and wrote all these things in ancient greece, - and not some religious or philosophical scholar from the past 500 years in the process of literally writing history for the first time shoehorning in his own beliefs - is essentially what you're being asked. I have no skin in the game just saying the victims of "plato's cave" are defined by their unquestioning gullibility and ignorance of any other options
>mythological figure based on semite mythology
At least pick something older and not related to israelites
Christianity, just as any other religion, is the OG psyop to keep the masses in check. Simple as that. It's a literal cope for people that are weak and afraid of dying.
>is a psyop because people never wondered where they came from, why they are here, and where they are going when they die
2/10, you're a homosexual and should kys
Modern humans were a mistake.
Up doot for you too! It’s fantastic (forgive my over-enthusiasm) seeing another intellectual in this subreddit
If I could, I would give ALL OF YOU heckin gold!
being ironic and sarcastic doesn't make you funny
>no fun allowed INCEL
Worshipping science and intellect instead of god doesn’t make you smart
Frick you homies Christ is king there's no doubt you mark my words gays you will Feel dumb as frick on the judgement day
You would be judged for this post you absolute clown
Based and truth pilled
>All the gospels were written multiple decades after the death of christ.
Most writings about famous ancient people tend to be written decades after their deaths though.
>Most writings about famous ancient people tend to be written decades after their deaths though.
Which only suggests a lot of ancient writing about people is unreliable. It does nothing to argue against what the guy you are replying to was typing about.
Does that even matter? It's a religion, not a history course, most of the christians I know don't take the stories so literally but rather as mythos
>most Christians I know pick and choose what parts to believe
So why is it wrong if I pick and choose to believe none of it?
Holy reddit
All the apostels were martyred for their belief in Jesus Christ, you dumb Black person ape. You think it's just a coincidence they all preached the same story and were so convinced they gave their own lives for it?
You are a fallible and weak man that thinks that there won't be anything to judge you after death. You will pay the ultimate price for your ineptitude and perverse sense of disbelief.
Get a room with him queer dog. Maybe you'll be so busy sucking each other off that you won't have time to blaspheme.
God does not, and never had, a son. He simply is. There is no such thing as a Demigod, despite what your pagan ("but not really!!!!") books might say.
God might be the consciousness of the universe
The universe doesn't have a consciousness. It's dead matter. The consciousness is in the being that created the universe and set it in motion.
Isn't the conciousness of the universe The Holy Spirit?
You must be 18 to post here
That's meat, you dumb vegan.
I love my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. How could the Son of the living God love me, a sinner so much that He was willing to leave his throne to die for me just so that I can live with Him. For that I lift for my King
that doesn't even make sense, he could have just called from the heavens promising forgiveness to all believers. What was the point of giving himself a mortal (but not really) body and dying (but not really)?
Because it was a cool and epic flex on the power of Death and God's will. Jesus trampled death by death. Next stupid question.
But it's all God. He broke His own rules to defy a force He already controls, what's the point of this convolution, aside from trying to tell a compelling story?
>Broke his rules
Like what
Do you know how the entire universe works? No, you don't. You don't know the rules, or the full significance of what happened. No human knows, that's why its considered a mystery to an extent. But it's pretty obvious which side it's better to be on, that God has made explicitly clear.
>It’s all God
And?
Jesus is the Son of God the Father, whilst also being God in the flesh
Jesus was still his own man, he still had his own life, his death meant something because he 1. Became the perfect embodiment of man’s connection to God, giving us a perfect ideal life to strive for, and 2. Served as the ultimate sacrifice as the Lamb of God, dying for our sakes being the Son of God/God in the flesh
Christ conquered death and rose again, and in his sacrifice, gave us eternal life like he had achieved in His Kingdom if we choose to take it
It’s not God “breaking His own rules” (which doesn’t make sense at all), but it’s God showing us just how much He loves us by sending His only Son to die for us, whilst also taking on the pain Himself
your entire religion is a basically just a continuous set of shamanic pagan symbolism that's been passed down since the time of the first cave art. even without any bias one can simply look into the history of the cross as a symbol and it'll take you right back to some of the first shamanic symbolism we ever thought important enough to replicate and preserve through history.
It's a set of traditions that's been mutating out of control for over 2,000 years, constantly losing pieces of itself in translation over time, while constantly under threat of being destroyed or watered down. Ironically it's since become it's own enemy without it's practicioners even being aware of it. A non-spiritual, entirely authoritarian control focused Business model capitalizing on man's innate desire to seek knowledge and communicate with entities of the mind, in lieu of the shamanic foundation whose symbols and themes still absolutely define the religion today, albeit without any of the awareness or intent by it's practicioners.
Basically if kung fu is fake street performer martial arts, and MMA is fighting, you worship kung fu as if it were the ultimate fighting form, ignorant of MMA. Yes I am joe rogan.
>muh secret esoteric gnostic hidden shaman pagan universal truth
Jesus really became man and really died for my sins
Penal substitutionary atonement
thats the body of christ therefore its full of proteins !
Christianity killed western society.
Christianity built Western society. It only started to decline when people became less religious.
if you read the Pitis Sophia carefully you will see that Christ isn't necessarily out to be everyones friend. and it also just plainly states such in the bible. Many are called but few are chosen.
The Pitis Sophia states that, and its a terrible thing to paraphrase forgive me, but that he seeks quickly to have most people destroyed because they are impure, something to that effect. and quickly to save the spiritually willing.
western society is like any society, has a beginning, middle, and end. exists to serve as a place where a select few perfect souls can be elaborated. the rest are destroyed.
the problem with the Christians is that they assume they are on a winning team. pragmatically 99.9% of Christians are not fundamentally different from atheists. they just have different text in their religion.txt file. the operating system is garbage (the ego)
Cope. Rome and Ancient Greece built society from the ground. After Christianity took over the west went into the dark ages. Fricking Islam was more influential in the cradle of western society because Christianity was so shit. Slave religion.
«Dark ages» is a renaissance lie, historians in europe have known that for a while and it's starting to hit the mainstream. But I wouldn't expect an american to have any grasp of history.
>unleavened eucharist
What's with all the pol tier posting today? Are these people really that insecure?
bunkertroons branched out to other boards a while ago
it's easier when they don't have the same flag every time
Genuinely don't know what that means.
>“Naked I came from my mother's womb, and naked I will depart. The LORD gave and the LORD has taken away; may the name of the LORD be praised.”
LORDs grace is eternal...
thanks, LORD i'll keep that in mind, haha. *walks off* *cringe*
>pagan cannibalism
Hard pass
>slave religion
>literally worship a israelite and his torture device
>god is a jobber
>praise donkeys as well
Lol even ancient Roman kids made fun of Christians
>Changes bread into the body of Christ
Carnivore approved
Just eat flesh and drink blood like Jesus said.
He shouldve stoned the prostitute
n? you forgot the n. militarized and corporatized Christianity has been one of the most toxic and destructive forces in human history for the last 500+ yrs and your communion and the entire purpose of your religion has been desecrated and defiled so thoroughly it's beyond embarrassing. Instead of speaking to god in a congregation full of peers in psychedelic ecstasy, seeking knowledge, you literally stand in line silently to get on your knees before some pedophile to eat a little wafer of compressed gluten or whatever that is, dunked in dollar store brand grape juice, while submitting to authorities claiming to hold knowledge - in between an hour and a half of, again, thoroughly corrupted and desecrated religious rhetoric and ritual that has completely removed itself from it's original foundations.
sorry if that put a damper on your shitpost but whatever christianity is now, it became a powerful tool for hopelessly nonspiritual people to control you quite some time ago, and is therefore a gains goblin. you've got bigger problems than worrying about your diet, focus on that and come back to fitness of body when you've started cultivating fitness of mind for the first time in your life.
Jesus Christ and the Christian God exist to suck my dick.
That's not bread that's Jesus. Atheist vegan can't help but make himself look stupid.
Religion exists because it's the man's innate desire to be subjugated. You are a slave and you like it that way.
>bake the cake!
>take the vaccine!
>pay your tax!