>bro, if you don't roll around with sweaty men, you will NEVER know TRUE strength
and other lies told to you by BJJ homosexuals
>when the law is gone and you don't own a gun, and you aren't 2 weight classes bigger than me, and you don't have street fighting experience, and you allow yourself to fall down on the ground and have me hump you for a whole minute straight until you submit, then you'll be submitting to my br hue huejittsu.
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Martial arts are simply a hobby to be enjoyed. ANYONE who talks about real life applications is a larper
I prefer "anime and fighting game enjoyer', but you are correct
The lame thing is that most of there guys will SAY they agree with that but they don't really believe it.
In their heads they're Benny Badass.
I do BJJ and we routinely take the piss out of its practicalness for self defence, I don't think anyone is there to be a hardass street fighter. The guys who do MMA on the other hand...
>my MMA is more legit than yours
oh for frick's sake get a grip
You gotta work on your reading comprehension, champ.
alright i concede, thanks for calling me a champ though I needed that. i'm having a rough time, and knowing i'm the champ makes me feel like a cool guy
>repeatedly fighting doesn't make you better at fighting
It can easily be proven that no matter how much martial arts you train you'll always lose to an untrained bum with a knife.
For all of your fighting "experience" you are completely unexperienced and clueless on how to actually defend yourself. You will be as helpless as an untrained person when push comes to shove.
Don't delude yourself into thinking your martial arts "experience" will translate to a real fight.
I take your point, but I’ve been in plenty of drunk bar fights growing up and nobody’s ever pulled a knife
all it takes is one dumb c**t to break a bottle and it's bye bye time
Same stupid boomer mentality that makes everyone hate you and laugh at you behind your back.
> “Why learn to fight when I can just get a gun!?”
> “Why go camping its risky!?”
> “Why workout to be strong when I can just hire movers!?”
> “Why frick my wife when tyrone can just do it for me!?”
You are missing the point and the funniest part is you tatds will never “get it” and will act smug while the rest of us roll our eyes at your ineptitude.
Imagine thinking that because people don't want to roll around on the floor with a bunch of sweaty men that they don't lift or camp or frick their wives
learning BJJ because it's the "most useful in a fight" and you want to use it in a real situation one day is the larp. the broken bottle is what immediately invalidates your years of training.
it's the same pity I feel for powerlifters that go to the gym to lift the most amount of weight because they're so average they must feel superior to others in some way. so they declare themselves real lifters and better than "beach muscle" bodybuilders
Most people pulling knives in fights are scared shitless and just using it to scare people off. Some even reach into their clothes as if they've got a knife when they actually don't. Seen many get heemed by confident and aggressive unarmed/ad hoc armed opponents. The other guy might get fricked up long term but a pussy with a knife is still a pussy
t. lived in London
This is because when you see a knife you WILL back off. They only use it for intimidation because that's all that's needed.
If you were to attack them despite that they'd use that knife on you.
>with a knife
Yeah, obviously, but you're shifting the goalposts. I never claimed repeatedly fighting barehanded against barehanded opponents makes you better at fighting armed opponents barehanded.
But even here the same applies: you'll be better in a knife fight than some random dude with a knife if you've had knife fighting training.
>fighting barehanded against barehanded opponents makes you better at fighting armed opponents barehanded
The thing is you can NEVER know if someone is barehanded or not.
It literally does exactly that
>The thing is you can NEVER know if someone is barehanded or not.
Hence why it's better to avoid fights than to win them. But if push comes to shove, I'd rather have martial arts training than not.
parkour and myau thai, all you need or a flipperino art since you get to larp with some sticks and staves.
There are ways to control gypsy sewing machine. Unfortunately nobody really teaches it and popular martial arts never manage to strike the balance between competitiveness and self defence.
The only way to really defeat an armed attacker is to simply knock them out with your first punch. That's the best way to keep yourself safe.
Any attempt to control the knife hand will result in you getting stabbed multiple times.
Wrong. Controlling the weapon hand and striking first are the only viable options.
>striking first
Yes. If you manage to knock them out immediately that is your best option.
If the start wrestling you then controlling the knife hand is really all you have left but it is far from ideal.
if you are grappling and the other guy has a knife you are dead. You might not die in the street but you will die in the hospital.
running away is the only viable option, if the guy runs at you dodge, shove him and run away.
A dude made a video about "bjj black belt fights bluebelts with a knife to see how many times he will get stabbed".
If you really want to risk your life for an adrenaline rush learn muay thai and attempt to knockout thebguy with an elbow (that will not happen, most likely)
>Controlling the weapon hand
dead man
yeah controlling the weapon hand allows the knife wielder to rotate their wrist to cut yours.
it takes dedicated hardcore professionals to control a knife threat.
hobbyists think they can do that stuff but when the time comes their hands are going to turn to jelly.
>and popular martial arts never manage to strike the balance between competitiveness and self defence.
Actually rthey did in America before the 70s, then you got gang warfare where gangs killed each other and cops with ninja weapons so the "sports martial art" meme was created as government propaganda to end the street killings.
>You can repeatedly fight with those with bladed weapons (blunt or mock) to get better at fighting those with knives
Rinse repeat if you have a second or third stupid argument
you aren't fighting though. thats the thing.
Ever fight a kid in the playground when you were little and they would always call foul.
"No wait, you're not allowed to do that!"
"No wait. You're not allowed to do (the other thing)!"
"No wait. You're not allowed to do (the third thing)!"
Whenever I see these guys "fighting" it reminds me of that kid.
Pretty much.
Some guy was grabing my leg and I asked why would he put himself into that vulnerable position.
>what do you mean
Well I could from this position just contract my abs, pull my knee up and my elbow down and smash your spine with my elbow tip at the back of your neck. Even if I miss I can at the very least hit the back of your head or where your head and spine meet
>uh thats against the rules!
are you fricking kidding me, thats like a guy jumping into a head lock and telling me it's against the rules to snap his neck get the frick out of here with that shit
> everything that works against BJJ is neutered by rules.
kek, every single time.
Like I understand it's against the rules to do that, otherwise you'd be killing or paralyzing people.
But it should be also against the rules to put yourself into that position because of said lethal responses to said position.
You can just put yourself into vulnerable positions, rely on rules to keep yourself safe and then call it "fighting".
You can't*
This is like complaining that you can't kick people in boxing
MMA is supposed to be the mixed martial arts but it neuters everything that will stomp on BJJ pun intended same with other comps.
>zoomers
No wonder you're incels.
>Be good at IRL Smash Bros (BJJ)
>Dabble in MvC2 (Judo), Tekken (muay thai), and Mortal Kombat (MMA)
>IST seethes about IRL Street Fighter (some sort of non-descript street fight thats only 1 on 1, no weapons, dirty strikes allowed
I don't care about king of the street. I don't care about what happened to you at a bar. I don't care that you were bullied. I don't want to fight you. I'm just doing this athletic hobby. I spent a lot of time and heartache (some of which was with IST's advice) trying to find a joyful life that wasn't always a means to some future end
MMA is Tekken street fighting is mortal kombat, Judo is WWE in gi costumes, smash bros is accurate as far as absurdity of BJJ goes.
>Street fighting isn't street fighter even though it's the same word
The sort of logic I'd expect from someone obsessed with violent altercations to expecting to beat up bad guys. You know you get to beat up black people in martial arts academies, right? You might even make a friend who looks different than you and like it
Boxing/Kickboxing is Street Fighter, last time I checked they don't use knives or swords in SF but instead ki blasts?
capoeira is tekken
I never get the ground fighing discussion, they learn takedowns there's no need to actually bring the fight to the ground, just throw people and walk away.
Ground game is more about finishing the fight and/or salvaging the situation if you end up on the ground. But I agree with you that in a self-defense situation takedowns and running away work better. Muay Thai + BJJ may be the meta for MMA, but for the streets I'd argue kickboxing + judo works better (or some kind of full contact karate that includes takedowns idk I have no idea how the schools and styles differ).
EVERY argument against BJJ assumed they don't train takedowns. They do.
Lol yes exactly.
People automatically assume that BJJ guys can't punch.
That's exclusive to "street fighters"
Is BJJ fun? My gym is full of zoomers and it seems like a neat way to meet people/keep fit
It's very fun if you're a legitimate homosexual who likes having other men's penises rubbed all over you
It's pretty shit for getting fit. Sure you get some cardio but it's outweighed by the high injury risk
This is the persistent issue with people doing these "combat sports" at a hobby level.
They claim it's for this reason or that reason but in the end they still want to believe they're a badass.
Wing Chun. Aikido. Jiujutsu. It's all the same. You don't get jacked. You don't get fit. You only meet other larpers. And it's worse than useless for self defense because it trains you to do stuff that will get you killed IRL while giving you just enough bravado to get into those situations in the first place.
>combat sports
>Wing Chun. Aikido. Jiujutsu
Like 0.5 of those are combat sports at best. Funny that you never mentioned (kick)boxing, taekwondo or Muay Thai. You know, actual combat sports? That also have non-combat focused and more cardio intensive equivalents?
> smug anime girl poster.
> chinese artstyle.
you would still get done in with a 1-2 and you would cry to your mommy.
>a 1-2
>using boxing terminology to prove boxing doesn't work
> avatar chinese cartoon posting ist.
take your autism pills and go to sleep.
I mention those larp sports because it's those kinds of people that are drawn to make a big deal about this crap.
taekwondo is a gay meme but boxing and muay thai are useful, but the irony is that the closer you get to real combat the more it becomes apparent that the "muh drunken brawl at the pub" shit is a complete load of crap.
Boxers and muay thai guys don't rock up on these threads b***hing about how they're the only real men in the room. That seems to be reserved exclusively for the jiujutsu combat larpers.
Some of you guys are alright. Don't go to the pub tomorrow.
you won't do shit, I double dog dare you to do shit you weak pussy you still won't do it!!!
if you cant bench 3.5pl8 and you dont know how to fight a 160lbs kid who is good at jj can choke you out
you gays always include the word "sweaty" in these posts which is how I know it's your fantasy disguised as a troll thread
Sweat is disgusting. We're really the only animal that sweats this much. It all just promotes bacteria growth on your skin and is generally disgusting.
Sweating sucks. Given the choice I'd remove all my sweat even if it means I'd overheat easier in very warm weather.
go to war in the falklands and you will lose the ability to sweat
True martial arts mastery is achieved by rolling around with sweaty women.
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based drunken thoughts sperg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HyUknZ8LB8&themeRefresh=1
thanks for the vid https://voca.ro/1bczjxYImiDH
can you do a commentary on the KotS fight?
>>bjj makes you strong
>>Me: “come lift this 405lb deadlift”(conventional)
>>”no thanks”
Well I guess we will never know then
I mean why are bjj practitioners so afraid of lifting weights? I heard they are really strong or something
Loaded carries are better for grapplers with a light base on deadlifts, powershitter spotted.
You are defending being weak. Like saying it is okay to NOT push yourself or evaluate your strength levels. Yet ALL of the bjj practitioners I know, and I know quite a few some black and brown belt, but they dont lift yet think they are very strong.
This is an odd phenomenon
you have a very fixated obsession on what defines strength when you got nothing to pack it up except numbers in the gym done with equipment and not raw also mixed grip deadlift instead of underhand deadlift, curved to hell and back benchpress instead of flat back to bench press.
Why are you talking about my training like you have seen it? I pull hook, I pull mixed. I don’t use any equipment besides a belt because I am not a total moron like you.
I have actual measurements of my strength if nothing else, just training bjj or any martial art for that matter and walking around thinking or saying you are strong is hilarious if you dont actually go to a gym with equipment and know that there are people significantly smaller than you who are stronger than you.
The gym is an equalizer, the weights are static. Bjj is just humping sweaty dudes for awhile so that is cool for you
> powershitter starts coping muh belt only.
you aren't strong enough to keep your fat stomach from falling out, proof to me that your training is useless.
I am strong enough to pull 300lbs bracing with no belt, conventional no straps.
Do you weight 300 lbs? I will guess no but you still look like fricking dog shit regardless. Prove to me you are not a fricking weakling without defending not going to the gym
I exercise on the regular otherwise and my grip is around 90kg on each hand, if you are talking dirty fighting you better keep your legs closed or you going to walk like a princess afterwards in few seconds tops.
Nobody was talking about fighting. I was talking about delusional fighters claiming unknown and untested levels of strength because they are afraid to touch a barbell. Something about too much muscle reducing mobility… lmao try working for the muscle first before you are afraid of getting too much. That is the same excuse women say they dont want to get le bulky. You sound like a woman
There's been a few fighters here who complained that when their deadlift got too big issues came so there must be some truth to their claims over your bs, not everyone's built to deadlift, but you can do more volume work anyways with loaded carries that do the trick for fighting arts.
>when their deadlift got to big
I also remember the first time I hit 2pl8 lmao
If you get too strong you will get too tense to be able to fight in a relaxed manner, if you were fighting proper you would know that you are slower than most fighters if you lift heavy and don't do conditioning to keep the extra weight off and speed up.
> Cope: the thread
Can I join?
>> LMAO HE THINKS PLAYING BASKETBALL IN THE GYM WITH *LE RULES* IS GONNA MAKE HIM BETTER AT LE REAL STREET BASKETBALL
*facepalm*
NOTHING prepares you for REAL STREET basketball where a guy can have a knife