A tall, naturally athletic & wide framed guy who does pushups will look better than a short guy (under 6 feet is short) at his natty limit
70% of your workout is likely junk volume
The size of your muscles is mostly irrelevant past a basic internediate muscular base; frame, insertions and bodyfat % is what determines aesthetics
Lifting is the easiest form of fitness, if all you do is lift you are not healthy or athletic
If you cannot do pull-ups you are not fit, if you cannot run a mile you are not fit, if you do not have visible abs you are not fit
No amount of alcohol is good for you
Your metabolism does not slow down with age, you simply gained 5-10lbs a year since 18
Being over 15% bodyfat at any point in your life is going to have irreversible consequences to your aging and health, and the longer you spent at >15% the worse it will be
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>That pic
That is one of the dumbest things I have ever read
Someone can be obese and be smart about things that are not fitness related. I have known ham planets who were brilliant statisticians, scientists, etc.
>statisticians, scientists
>smart
Pick one
I have never met a smart fat person
This. If they’re so smart why can’t they figure out how to stop eating
ozempic? cocaine?
Name one highly intelligent fat person EXCEPT Donald Trump
Donald Trump isn't intelligent, he's just charismatic
he's neither, he's so profoundly moronic that it's funny to listen to him talk but that isn't the same as being charismatic
I know you're trolling, but sadly there are millions of americans who actually believe this. trump's probably the most intellectually and morally deficient person ever to be president.
Genius literally runs in his family, you seething moron.
>Just when you think this godforsaken website can't get any worse, there's this 4 year event that sends all the burgers into batshit crazy mode spamming /misc/ on every board
Imagine coming here to talk about fitness
You seem lost, here:
https://reddit.com
>most morally deficient person ever to be president
You obviously have a very superficial grasp on history.
Ok, besides Woodrow Wilson, the most morally deficient person ever to be president
All his policies aside, I remember back in school we were leaning facts about presidents and Wilson's favorite meal was chicken salad. All the rest of them had something at least rational like steak or fried chicken or ice cream. And not like some nice grilled or roasted chicken with a salad but that gross cold mixture of canned chicken and precut stuff that sits in the deli that no one buys. What kind of a twisted sumb***h even looks forward to chicken salad?
Morbid if you ask me.
I don't particularly care about Trump either way, you homies gotta stop with this lame cope.
>That guy that's more successful than me by every single possible metric is actually a huge moron!
Like do you not understand what that says about you? If you're so much smarter then why aren't you rich? Why don't you fly around in a jumbo jet with your name painted on the side? Why haven't you been elected to public office? Why aren't you married to a supermodel? If this guy is so dumb, then why is he doing better than you in every way? Donald Trump is a lot of things, but unintelligent is definitely not one of them.
Trump inherited his wealth and business from his father. His father was the smart one. Trump has some skill in marketing and manipulation, but that's it.
No he didn't. Why aren't his siblings billionaires too then? He also didn't inherit the money he has now, it was grown. This is some moronic coping and seething.
christopher langan 210 iq fat man
Yes, coffee is good for you
He's both, Bush was the only midwit American president. Cheney was more of an evil genius. All the rest of them were at least at one point in their lives very intelligent.
Bush jr was a super sonic fighter pilot. They don't let anyone handle a stick under an IQ of 120.
He acted like a good natured fool to distract from the fact he got us in two ruinous wars and destroyed our forth amendment rights.
exactly people who fall for the our president is so dumb are the lcd of people and need to be culled from existence people who become president are incredibly smart narcissistic and probably sociopathic/psychopathic
Rush Limbaugh
Rush was like 115-120 max imo. He didn't understand financial consolidation. Samuel Francis was quite fat and one of the few extremely based American political philosophers. Him, Hamilton and John Jay are the only non-glowie Americans worth reading about politics.
Hamilton was a traitor and it is a shame that Burr did not shoot him sooner.
lol yet Burr was the only one of them to be tried as a traitor multiple times and killed Hamilton dishonorably before fleeing. You never would have been a global power without Hamilton and Jay, they tard wrangled you all.
>israelite dicksucker trust fund baby
>Intelligent
Sure but it's still a very dumb decision to fill yourself with garbage to the point that you become fat.
I have never met a smart fat guy. All the super high IQ guys I've seen were skellies
NAXALT (not all [insert group] are like that) is a gay and useless argument.
What good does it do to point out that some fat guy has an expert opinion on Warhammer 40k?
SHUT THE FRICK UP, FATTASS
I aspire to be so fat that wagies need to go fist deep in my ass and pull out plugs of shit for minimum wage.
fatty
>I have known ham planets who were brilliant statisticians, scientists, etc.
did they get vaxxed, anon?
I second this. Maybe the most midwit statement I have seen this year. This women lives a life of bliss and privilege, centered around her wellness. There is a reason why men with massive responsibilities/stress are alcoholics or obese. Unless solely genetic, or due to extreme physical labor, being lean in this current civilization is a sign of a easy and calm life
Is that how you cope with being a fatass ?
Society is at a point where staying fit has never been this accessible, having a good diet has never been easier, and the knowledge of how to do so is available almost immediately if you care to search for it
"Responsibilities and stuff" are just a pathetic cope to justify laziness. Worse even, even for people who have zero time for physical activity, being a lard elemental is inexcusable, putting down the fork takes less time and money than the contrary.
Trying to justify obesity by saying your life's too busy is pathetic, go back to gorging yourself blackpill puppet.
>maybe the most midwit statement I have seen this year
If you wrote this as a prologue to your post then yes, very much so. Lol.
moron
>winston churchill
also
>napoleon (probably)
>ernest hemingway
are you kidding me? we both know that these men would be considered average by todays standard. fat is when you begin to waddle, when your fat rolls are multilayered and you weigh 120+kg or even far more
Gaben…
If you are smart, then why would you let yourself become fat? That's stupid.
Smart about what? They can’t even take care of themselves LMAO. Smart like what, they optimized for the ability to roll down a hill. Show me a fatty bouncing and rolling down a hill and I’ll say ok he’s smarter than me. Until then they’re all fat morons.
Most true but this
>Being over 15% bodyfat at any point in your life is going to have irreversible consequences to your aging and health
As a matter of fact, as you get old you need some more fat and it's a prognostic factor for better outcomes in most illness. That is, being overweight is better (and the subjects in relevant studies were not overweight because of increased muscle mass).
Btw, women at 15% bf are borderline. This is about the limit most can sustain functional reproductive health
I think the 15% BF stat would be for men. A man and a woman who look the same fat wise, the woman would probably have 10% higher BF, solely because of breasts and hips
If you're not at the beach or pool every other day, there is no reason to lift for aesthetics, unless you're a gay and walk around with your shirt off or post pics on social media.
The purpose of a hot body is to look good while you're having sex, moron.
t. powershitter
Truth but the guy that got me into Stoicism makes a living off of being fit, attractive and popular.
damn b***h got some nice underboob
>Your metabolism does not slow down with age
It does, but not as much as people try to make it look like.
For the most part, they're WAY less active than when they were kids. Be active and you'll be a metabolic furnace even in your old age.
I love Azelia Banks so much and she makes good music too
I can attest to that
better be scary and short than plain short
you have to bully yourself in this life
like this door
DONT LET THE FRICKING TAPE STOP YOU
WEAR YOUR CROWN(steroids) AND GET IN!
It's coping time:
>A tall, naturally athletic & wide framed guy who does pushups will look better than a short guy (under 6 feet is short) at his natty limit
True but if you're small and short and don't lift you'd be at an even bigger disadvantage.
>70% of your workout is likely junk volume
Yes, that's how the pareto's 80-20 works. But you still need that 100% to get the 20%.
>The size of your muscles is mostly irrelevant past a basic internediate muscular base; frame, insertions and bodyfat % is what determines aesthetics
And if you don't have any muscles then nothing if those things matter anyway.
>Lifting is the easiest form of fitness, if all you do is lift you are not healthy or athletic
Still healthier and more athletic than doing nothing
>If you cannot do pull-ups you are not fit, if you cannot run a mile you are not fit, if you do not have visible abs you are not fit
Those are arbitrary measures of fitness and don't reflect the different goals or disciplines
>No amount of alcohol is good for you
Yeah this is true, got me there
>Your metabolism does not slow down with age, you simply gained 5-10lbs a year since 18
18 is easy to young, try now love ~25-30
>Being over 15% bodyfat at any point in your life is going to have irreversible consequences to your aging and health, and the longer you spent at >15% the worse it will be
15%bf is absolutely normal and expected for a healthy male. If you have big muscles your can look aesthetic even with 15%. Of course <10% is better since it's more rare and appeals to our monkey brains but 15% is totally fine.
God I fricking hate how completely made up numbers become hard and fast rules for midwits. Some fricking idiot writes a books telling people that they can get rich working four hours a week and that’s because 80% of the results come from 20% of the work. Therefore this applies to literally every situation. Ferris didn’t come up with it but he definitely popularized it. It’s not. Fricking. True. I swear to god the vast majority of western people would be better off with no education considering the shit they believe now.
People who post this shit always look like trash. Trash looks, trash character, trash lives. I miss the days when you dickheads stuck to your lane of being insufferable atheists and tech nerds. Why the frick did they have to bring this shit to fitness. The rise of mentztards is exhibit A. But I guess I should be thankful for you fricking morons. Literally no one who follows your advice is going to look good. Makes competition that much easier
Relax, autist. Nobody takes those numbers seriously, it's more like figure of speech
it is not about being true or exactly 20:80 or whatever, the underlying principle is power law-distrubution and it is present in most aspects in life (social networks, economics, reproduction etc.). to say it is not true is equally dumb, since it is simply an observation of data points - whic his happening (i.e. frequency of words in a given language). knowledge discovery and databases (KDD) have made great usage of modeling use cases after it and hyperscaled it. the success of it is undeniable.
the terminology 20:80 just stems from pareto who didnt have the knowledge/insight of the later 'discovered' power law, which is also just kind of an approximation. depending on the use case it might shift (13:87 for languages in category 3 difficulty, IIRC)
>The size of your muscles is mostly irrelevant past a basic intermediate muscular base; frame, insertions and bodyfat % is what determines aesthetics
Aesthetics are irrelevant if you aren’t big. Being low bodyfat is meaningless is you only weigh 180lbs or less. You will be size mogged by the average overweight American male who doesn’t lift, your abs be damned.
You have to be at least 200lbs bare minimum to not be mogged by most average overweight men. If you are 5’10-6’ you can still look aesthetic without abs at 220-240lbs, that is, if you’ve maxxed out your genetic potential.
The goal should be to get as big as your frame will allow you to without looking fat. I define “fat” as anything beyond built-fat, basically the point where your muscles stop being able to compensate for your bodyfat in terms of aesthetics.
This, homies brag about being lean and pretty to women only to be mogged by fat beaners in clothes
It's better to be lean and build from there from a self-confidence and health perspective. Most of the good attention I've gotten from women came from being leaner rather than having size.
did she really post that? if yes then based
She's extremely based and I wish she would be my wife.
>Brown skin
>Female
Opinion discarded.
Lifting is (and should be for all) nothing more than a task running in the background. In fact, I don't even tell people I lift
"Improving" is beta. What makes someone the most "fit" is having the best genetics. Your ability to attract females is the ultimate indicator of whether or not you are "fit", and that is a biogical fact. Ask any female and they will tell you they'd prefer a man to be "fit" by doing natural things such as lifting heavy equipment at their job/home. Going to a gym with A/C and sitting on cushions pulling on cables is extremely feminine. I'd never admit to something like that. It's exactly why tanning beds are feminine. Tell a girl you tan in a bed, see what happens. Then tell a girl your tan comes from working outside. Totally different responses
Going to the gym is inherently beta. "Chad never had to self-improve" is entirely correct. A good mate is one who has good genetics. One that is big and strong by simply existing, not because he bought protein powder and pulls on strings 5 days a week. If you were a skinnyfat, weak male - you have bad genetics. It doesn't matter if you rise above them. Give yourself a pat on the back for improving but nonetheless, you aren't the most suitable mate.
Think of it like this - who do you think the girl is going to choose? A 6ft guy who was once a 5'6 manlet but got that bone lengthening surgery? Or a guy who was naturally tall? Yeah, exactly. 0% chance I tell girls I go to the gym. "Nah, I just played sports in high school and college"
I am pretty sure I read this exact post already somewhere
neverless, saved
post is detached from reality shit. The average person admires self improvement, theres entire industries and fads built around helping people self improve or helping them pretend to self improve.
Don't take posts here as fact or advice, they were likely written by irony poisoned losers who have been here longer than you.
Fact: women prefer you to be jacked because you do labor intensive work. They want a guy who got his tan from working outside. Go get a tan and tell her you got it from a tanning bed. You'd give her a thermo-nuclear ick. Going to the gym is in this category.
Take pic related and put him in some gym shorts with gloves in front of a dumbbell rack and hed immediately drop 2 points on the /10 scale
This isn't demoralization - it's a reality check for shut-in nerds to get outside and work with your hands
this guy doesn't have a body built by hard labor, he's wearing a fricking larp stripper cowboy outfit. Women have different preferences, speaking in these weird generalizations just shows me you don't go outside.
>this guy doesn't have a body built by hard labor
No shit. The fact you think you're "enlightening" me on this tells me you have a room temp IQ. The question I posed reinforces the fact that I will NEVER admit I go to the gym. "Nah just played sports in high school/ college"
>Women have different preferences
Once again, no shit. Luckily for you, some women like guys with tiny dicks built like Michael Cera. We're talking about what the majority of females prefer - and they definitely prefer a guy who got his physique from working outdoors
>"Nah just played sports in high school/ college"
Autism
>Instant reply
I'm sorry but you sound like an insufferable moron. No one cares what you do or anything about you because you're an insufferable moron. If you're going to reply with more cope just don't even bother. Seriously though who talks like that? And who genuinely thinks like that? I hope for your own sake this is just an insufferable moron character you pretend to be online for your own entertainment (even though it's not funny)
reply
There's 5 minutes between my post (
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Congrats, the entire foundation for your paragraph of seethe is based in hypocrisy (not to mention you offer no real rebuttal other than "reeee who talks like this")
who owns themselves with their own logic? Lmao, you do, my little celibate friend
stfu moron
>Instant reply
Black person youre actually moronic lmao
ur mom suck my dick
Really? Is that the best you can come up with?
See
Before you start interjecting in random conversations you dumb brown moron (100% chance you still don't understand why youre moronic after reading it because, well, you're brown)
>He thinks some roided gay model got his body from labour
>Has the audacity to call someone a moron
Only on IST fit ladies and gents
>Tries to convince people it's cooler to make it a secret that you go to the gym
>Muhhhhhhh sports!!!
Sad or about 17-19 years old
>>He thinks some roided gay model got his body from labour
See
Once again you interject in a conversation that you're too stupid and lazy to go back and read LMAO. 2nd time you've owned yourself. Embarrassing bro
anon pls keep this going. i haven't seen the beginning of a legendary sperg out in quite some time.
See
what other people think
You're literally seething about my opinion right now hahaha holy shit you're incredibly stupid. You also talk like a major incel. "macho man online persona". "oozes through your character"
>Misses the point entirely
I don't even know why I bother anymore. Also that's really the best you've got to say after being called out, whatever. Just stay delulu no one cares
Oh no, I understand your point entirely. But don't act like you don't care what people think when you're literally upset by my thought process LOL.
Also, the only people who "don't care what people think" are losers. Like bottom-of-the-barrel trash. The reason you "don't care what people think" is because it gives you an excuse not to try. If you don't try, then you never really fail. Basically you're a coward, among many other things
Says the insecure b***h that lies about himself lmfao whatever bro
Girls wear makeup. I say I'm naturally this big. Keep crying about it if you want though (I'm also 6' but say I'm 5'10 so that 5'10 bros who say they're 6' look like morons)
>Having to correct and backtrack his posts
>No but actually I refuted this on another post!!! You just didn't read it!!!!! You're the moron not me!!!!!
At least pretend not to sound like such an insufferable moron on your posts. Please.
to correct and backtrack his posts
No, you just have Black person-tier reading comprehension
>the fact that I will NEVER admit I go to the gym. "Nah just played sports in high school/ college"
if your physique is described in this way, it basically means you're out of shape. it means "trust me, i used to be in shape when i was young" and communicates that you aren't strong enough willed to continue being IST. it quite literally makes you a loser.
>implying women/normies can actually tell that I'm lying
Really outting yourself as moronic my dude. I get accused of being on roids by incels here (natty) but women believe me when I say I don't go to the gym and just played football in college
>Caring what other people think
>Having to lie about yourself
It's absurd how insecure you are that even when putting on a macho man online persona your irl insecurity still oozes through your character. Do you really think anything of what you said sounds good?
Bro you're ashamed of going to the gym ? lmao that's the most moronic thing I have heard all week
I don't deny that women generally like "naturally made" physiques better, even though what they actually mean by that is "someone that has gym-made hypertrophy, but got it doing unrelated activities". Women who like "dadbods" refer to guys like Cbum, Henry Cavill or Hugh Jackman as having "dadbods", certainly not tradie with a beer gut bodies nor lanklet construction worker bodies.
Just do what any sane person with a sedentary job does, hit the gym on weekdays, amateur sports with friends once a week and an outdoor activity on the weekend
Also it's worth saying in passing that if you define your own worth by how women percieve your physique, you're just as rotten as the roasties you wish you'd frick.
I hope it gets better for you bro
That dude is trying to sell leather to gays.
Simple, get a bench and weights and put them outside
i swear to fricking god this thread makes me wanna commit mass genocide on you morons who rely so fricking heavy on your genetics
here's the truth you're too fricking whiny to admit: all of your physical achievements, your aesthetics, your strength, stamina, health, is a result of your lucky draw at genetics. you've let it get to your head so much that you think you're smarter than people who don't look like you. You won a lottery, and you'll never admit that the standard set by a bunch of self indulgent morons that look like you is the your ticket out of actually having to put effort into anything. hope you all die sad, miserable, terrible deaths.
it's just basic right wing thought. Natural heirarchies and the deserving type stuff. Nobody on this site will admit that they're the dregs of society or else they wouldn't have found themselves here.
The worst part is, you all live in an echo chamber of your circle jerk. It's been proven that attractive people subconsciously choose to only associate with other attractive people, platonic or not. There is an hidden caste system in every society that people don't even recognize. again, if you're attractive, do us a favor and have a nice day, please.
>Replies with more cope
Sigh, I told you to not even bother
>replied so fast he replied to the deleted post
Hahahaha got your ass. You're literally smashing F5 ITT
Try another angle next time you stupid brown frick.
Stfu double posting moron
Seethe harder. Maybe go to the gym and pull on some cable strings in the AC lmao super hardcover bro!
>A tall, naturally athletic & wide framed guy who does pushups will look better than a short guy (under 6 feet is short) at his natty limit
Is that really brutal? most guys I know who lift are aware of this a couple months into lifting, the route usually goes something like
>guy sees girls fawning over tall guy with abs
>or guy sees arnold movies/dragonball/whatever with a huge guy
>guy starts lifting for girls or to get huge
>after a few months both realise they simply like the feeling of working out/the mental gains that come from seeing yourself get bigger and/or stronger
>A tall, naturally athletic & wide framed guy who does pushups will look better than a short guy (under 6 feet is short) at his natty limit
Mostly true, but I've never seen a muscular guy over 6'0. 5'11/180cm is the ideal male height for aesthetics, anything taller than that is weird proporions and zero muscle mass.
>70% of your workout is likely junk volume
True, if you don't train to failure (no negative reps).
>The size of your muscles is mostly irrelevant past a basic internediate muscular base; frame, insertions and bodyfat % is what determines aesthetics
True.
>Lifting is the easiest form of fitness, if all you do is lift you are not healthy or athletic
If you actually lift, then you also do some form of sport (swimming, running, cycling). This statement holds true for 20%+ BF powershitters.
>If you cannot do pull-ups you are not fit, if you cannot run a mile you are not fit, if you do not have visible abs you are not fit
True 100%.
>No amount of alcohol is good for you
True. If you need to get drunk, do it on an empty stomach for as little alcohol as you need.
>Your metabolism does not slow down with age, you simply gained 5-10lbs a year since 18
True.
>Being over 15% bodyfat at any point in your life is going to have irreversible consequences to your aging and health, and the longer you spent at >15% the worse it will be
True.
>I've never seen a muscular guy over 6 feet
Do you live in india
as a fatty, I oppose the uglification of everything. I enjoy good things, I don't try project my reality onto others, mine is my own and do not wish it upon others lest they be of aberrant character, then I wish them the worst of the worst.
I guess that c**t's getting eaten
>chrisheria.png
If you want proper abs you need to work your abs.